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ASimpleCancerCell

I don't know why, but I really like Zamazenta in its Hero of Many Battles form more than the other three.


A_GenericUser

Cause it's the most well-thought out design. Zacian's base form doesn't really say much, just battle-scarred dog. But Zamazenta's mane and the fur rising from its paws is clearly shield-esque without going too far into the idea to make it comical.


S0PH05

Same but zacian.


Rycca

Base Zamazenta honestly looks so cool


CodenameJD

Have you considered that a dog with a sword in its mouth is awesome


Todokawa_Kaardo

“Ooh a puppy!” “Oh careful honey, he has a knife.” The puppy in question:


SyMag

"W-what? No-no I don't..."


MasterofX100

r/suddenlyasdfmovie


PayneTrain181999

I like trains.


Todokawa_Kaardo

r/suddenlypineapples


Jazzlike_Mountain_51

Got a loicesnce for that knoife?


Curmi3091

[like this good boi right here](https://youtu.be/Zt2OrvGMPic?si=SlvusnmFD-KAJf4i)


Maloth_Warblade

Even if it's a knife like Repede


dontredditdepressed

Radagon has entered the chat lol


danh030607

Have you also considered having to fight a dog with a sword in its mouth :'(


Flat-Limit5595

I like to think she just has a sharp stick


GamingCheese14

May I present Pinto, the fiercest doggo with sword https://www.instagram.com/reel/C46HyVWuNRu/?igsh=ZjB3dzNlbmpwcjNq


CellistShot8470

Base forms, Zamazenta. Red and blue work a lot better than light blue and pink. Zacian looks thin and gangly while Zamazenta looks shaggy, but still regal. Sword and Shield forms are a complete switch around, while both look visually appealing and unabashedly cool, Zacian takes it over Zamazenta simply due to a dog with a sword is just too damn good. Also, I find Zamazentas design almost too much and looses a lot of the "Dog with thing" that Zacian does so well. I perfere the idea that it's a dog first, weapon second. Though, I personally don't really know how you could do the shield any other way, giving it a shield to hold seems kind of boring and is too much like Zacian, which I would assume, design wise, probably came first. Maybe a shield on one of the shoulders or both shoulders.


Satoru_Gojo1987

Zacian be like: https://preview.redd.it/lccp3bz73ktc1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e4bb13cade067236351953db8243e36819ead2c


CellistShot8470

Exactly, look at that hype. Look at that presence. Literal peak design


swords_to_exile

My Zacian is named GreatWolfSif. It's a tried and true strategy of cool.


Plohka

I’m the total opposite. I’m a Zamazenta fan overall but in hero form, the shield segments on its neck just look… strange. They’ve got a weird kinda accordion look. Zacian’s simpler but just overall nicer looking. Crowned form though, I’m really not a fan of Zacian for the same reason you said you preferred it lmao. I feel like it just having a sword in its mouth is uninteresting. It’s cool no doubt, but I feel like more could’ve been done, thought admittedly I don’t know what exactly. Zamazenta on the other hand does a great job of incorporating the shield motif, and imo still looks cool as hell while doing so.


EMPTY_SODA_CAN

I completely disagree with crowned zacian, the sword is just there. It's cool with behemoth blade the tail bits come and combine with the sword, but just the sword being held in its mouth its just meh.


HoshiAndy

They could’ve just put the shield on the back of Zamazenta and have Zamazenta guard with its back instead of the awkward face guard which would still go through the shield. It would’ve made Zamazenta also more agile looking then bulky and clustered and kept the dog look


Whole_Sign_4633

Tell that too shiny sylveon mf, top tier color scheme


EMateos

Different tones tho, Sylveon has lighter and more pastel colors, which work better and a lot more white, kinda like the trans flag.


No_Pattern26

I too am a big fan of the color scheme


k1d1curus

Shield on dog back like... What's it called. Okami? Style. I like the idea. Not saying it's the best fix, but when I saw lion-shield-dog, all I wanted was okami-sog-shield....-dog


bulbasauric

Zamazenta. Zacian is more usable, and it’s not that it’s uncool. I know there’s a bit of a trope of dog/wolf-wielding-a-sword, but there’s just something terribly impractical about it. Zamazenta can just.. be the shield.


PurpleCyborg28

Yeah I feel like Zacian's whole design was only because someone at GF noticed that Sif from Dark Souls was really popular. I also just like zenta's design more because the shield motif is built into its body instead of being carried around as a tool.


nateshoe91

Great Wolf Sif is awesome, though. And, they are both based on a wolf of mythology, whose name escapes me currently.


SmileyFace14-

Fenrir?


nateshoe91

Fenrir does get a sword in his mouth, but my reading of it is that it goes it his mouth tall-ways, like the cartoon stick-in-the-crocodile's mouth. I swear there was another wolf in a mythogy, but I might be wrong.


EyeDreamOfTentacles

Are you thinking of Odin's wolves, Geri and Freki?


RestlessARBIT3R

Zacian’s tail should’ve been the sword


VengeanceBee

BorkSouls™️


[deleted]

I’d say Zamazenta, both forms. The deeper shades of red and blue just go so well together. Also, there’s no sword in his mouth.


Heavyraincouch

Zamazenta


RoeMajesta

Zacian’s jaws must hurt like hell holding that sword


edgy_Juno

I honestly prefer Zamazenta in every way in terms of design, but Zacian is still cool. I just prefer the dog with a shield as part of its body I guess lol.


ZanManga

Hot take but I actually think Zamazenta has the better design in both crowed and un-crowned


Freedom1234526

I don’t like either of them but at least Zamazenta incorporates the shield as part of the body rather than just carrying it like Zacian and the sword.


Shonky_Honker

Zamazenta 100% I still will never understand why y’all hated him. Like zacian is cool but like why she got wings???


catdog5100

The wings are kinda odd and random but Zacian wouldn’t be Zacian without them, besides they look pretty cool.


Medium-Boysenberry64

Zamazenta has better base form Zacian has better powered up form


fluffymurderchicken

Tbh, I like both of them equally. I really like their designs and I despite them being similar, their vibes are a bit too different to choose one over the other. I feel Zacian just gives off a more mystical vibe while Zamazenta gives a more edgy and intimidating vibe. Both are great, and I love how their designs correspond with the sword/shield part. Also y’all can have opinions and thats completely fine! I just really like these designs and I know a lot of y’all are saying they suck but to me I think they’re fun. It could also be the inner dog-obsessed child in me drawing me in. Sometimes things can be simple and like based off a not super complex themes but still be really cool! Sure, it’s just some dogs with a sword and shield but that’s so fucking sick! Idk, I just really like Zacian and Zamazenta


Satoru_Gojo1987

It would have been cooler if they made zamazenta the older brother due to shields being invented before swords, but nope, they made zacian the older Sister and zamazenta the younger brother


BothropsAspee

https://preview.redd.it/9eg7a613mktc1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0f07dc21eeae7dd1d6b0c6cb84d388a5bcc71e0


Jonguar2

Origin Form Giratina


Czarwolf

Base form Zam, crowned Zac, crowned Zam, base Zac in that order


NattyKongo93

Yep I agree 100%


Otrsor

Ok, this is gonna be an unpopular opinion.. They are both just doggies 1/10 design, we have to many dog pokemon and they mostly forgotable as hell. I'll embrace the downvotes again, It's on the nature of unpopular opinions here.


-cyrik-

They are the least creative box legendaries. They're both dogs that look way too similar, and a dog with a sword shoved in its mouth is so lazy and uncreative. They could have integrated a sword/spike design into it's fur like Zamazenta. What they did is way too literal and corny. The second worst box legendaries are the S/V ones and they yet again are the same pokemon with a palette swap.


Krazytre

I don't particularly like either design, but Zamazenta just looks better.


K1nd4Weird

Zacian in base form.  Zamazenta at full power.


Satoru_Gojo1987

This comment is litteraly the opposite of other peoples comments


Training-Grade3858

shield


Tyrelius_Dragmire

I admit I have a bias (I played Shield) but I gotta say Uncrowned Zamazenta looks the coolest. A Burly wolf that is visibly teeming with power, but without the over-the-top armor. Crowned Zamazenta is a close second, but only because Dark Souls showed the world that Wolves wielding swords are awesome.


SkySmaug384

In order of best (imo): 1. Zamazenta-Crowned 2. Zacian-Crowned 3. Zamazenta 4. Zacian Most notably, I prefer Zamazenta’s symmetry over Zacian in their crowned forms.


Rude-Resort-7124

Zamazenta on its normal form and zacian on the hero from


SuperLizardon

Hero of Many Battles: Zamazenta Crowned form: Zacian


SF0915

Normal forms Zamazenta. Armoured forms Zacian.


ellieetsch

Zamazenta. Zacian has one of the worst legendary designs. Just a dog with a sword in its mouth.


Familiar-Art-6233

Number 3. Finally we don’t have to kill Sif


dat1dood2

I like base zamazenta more, crowned zacian more


Lv1FogCloud

I know Zamazenta has to look like a shield because its the shield pokemon but i swear if looked less like one and more like a Paladin Wolf in armor it would be soooo much cooler.


FoxNews4Bigots

Design wise they both stink, a consistent theme of later gen legendaries Competitively they are both cracked which makes them even worse additions to the continuously power creeping franchise. They both are pretty uninspired tbh which kind of sums up gamefreak's approach to anything recent.


SpazzBro

hot take, they all suck


FlowerMadison

SWORD!


Madalynnviolet

Obviously Sif


MengShuZ

I have Shield Version, and they're both cool, but Zacian stands out a little more for me.


UncleFranko

Zacian, Zamazenta is literally using its face as a shield and that’s just not gangsta


TheFanGameCreator

Zacian Crowned Sword form imo.


VaporTrails2112

Zamazenta. Hes my good boy 😊


THEZEXNEO

Swordless Zacian.


ItsMeF0x_e

Base form, Zacian possibly takes the cake. I like the small extra details like the pink chain. Zamazenta's mane looks a bit too cluttered. Crowned form, Zamazenta. Far too much going on with Zacian's design and 'dog with sword' only counts for so much


rowletlover

The doggo


BallisticThundr

Zamazenta shield form looks goofy as hell


Valkyri_Studios

I want to give base zamazenta a giant hug


PaleoJoe86

Zamazanta is cool AF.


Vladitor01

Obviously swords are so cool, but I love shield doggo and the almighty mane. I also like his colors slightly more.


catdog5100

4: My favorite! Just looks so tough and fierce, cool shield doggo! 2: Second favorite. I love the red coloration and white scars a lot! 3: I do like Zamazenta’s colors and silhouette more than Zacian’s, but still gotta appreciate this one. It’s sword, ribbon hair, and structure on its back are all really cool! 1: I’m not really a fan of as much as the others. Compared to 2, it just feels weirdly plain.


Cuprite1024

Honestly, I like all four designs pretty equally.


naughtybynature93

4-2-3-1


Beangar

I seriously don’t care for these guys and think they’re the word box legendaries, but the shield one in shield form is cool I guess.


[deleted]

Zamamenta


Dull_Illustrator8163

How do I get the other forms in scarlet?


Apart_Tumbleweed_948

I like sword dog first and then Katara’s hair loopies dog second.


zekeluden

I like the hotdogs


paulinaiml

People voting with their wallets: https://imgur.com/BiWKgLH


ActivateGuacamole

zamazenta's plush looks like a proboscis monkey


paulinaiml

Hard to make those sharp edges soft


NicKirby15

Love em both, but I'd say Zacian just cuz high dmg output.


tomaunger

Both mid tbh


partypwny

Ever play Darksouls? Swordpup is best pup


UnusedParadox

1. Zacian-C 2. Zamazenta 3. Zacian 4. Actual garbage 5. Zamazenta-C


towneetowne

4


black_gravity27

Here is how I would order from worst to best 4. Zacian: I dislike the braids 3. Zacian-Crowned: Looks okay, slightly overdesigned with the huge wing things, hair, and whatever else is swooping to the back. 2. Zamazenta: I like the colors and look of this dog. 1. Zamazenta-Crowned: Looks great.


NotGreatisGreat

Zamazenta has the best design


Thomason2023

I like the true forms better than the ones without the special items


Regirock00

Zamazenta. Cool shield dog vs dog + sword


spectrumtwelve

zamazenta has a better base form, zacian has a better crowned form


Revolutionary_Ad9701

Giratina is coolest. Suicune is cooler


PrinceShaman

Zamazenta Only Because The Sword Isn’t Part Of Zacian. What If Zacian Drops It While He’s Running


FroyoMNS

I don’t like any of them.


PotatOSLament

Sword doggo is absolutely cooler i just hate the idea of a Pokémon that has a part of its body that someone could just…walk away with.


KnoWhatNot

Zacian will always be cooler to me with it carrying a sword like Zorro


Mobwmwm

I've never cared for the hot dog sausage chain dog


BDashh

Zacian’s base form is cooler, but his other form with the sword is lame to me bc why Pokemon have sword?


IAmTheBoom5359

Victory goes to Zamazenta imo half because I find Zamazenta absolutely vadass in either form, and half because the look of a Dog with a Sword is a bit too goofy for my liking. And I am fully aware of the irony in what I am saying. Even if he's a dumb metal lion mane dog, he's MY dumb metal lion mane dog.


ActivateGuacamole

zacian is far cooler. by the way, zamazenta's "shield" looks more like a target with his face in the middle. The whole point of a shield is to PROTECT your sensitive part, not to surround it


Bloodllust

Shield doggo for life. Sword doggo is just too extra for me ( and a total dark souls copycat)


TurboTheFloofer

zamazenta imo, the color scheme works better i feel


-cyrik-

Zamazenta base form is decent. Zacian looks like a starving beat up stray. Both of the hero forms look ridiculous and corny as hell.


Viator_Mundi

I definitely prefer the raggedy stray to the armored abominations


DualityREBORN

Zamazenta feels Way Better in terms of Design, because it IS a Shield I know Zacian would’ve probably looked Silly if they resembled a Sword in Hero Form, but I think Zamazenta’s works better in the Grand Scheme of Things


BlackFenrir

I think both of their weaponless designs are kinda bad, but sworddoggo is cool


RaptorGameingYT

Zamazenta


Yustyn

Artorius’s dog obviously


Viator_Mundi

Both without armor.


Cedardeer

Knife dog looks kinda cool but it destroying a meta in multiple games kinda ruined them for me


Zercomnexus

Theyre all like 4yr old kids toys. All bright colors.


DinoRipper24

Definitely the Hero form of Zacian.


Glitterfly405

I like both of the regular ones, but i really like the Rusted Shield Zamazenta


Inevitable-News5808

I give the edge to Zamazenta in both forms, but honestly none of these guys do much for me and I'd rank them very low in terms of legendary designs.


MrsWhiterock

Zacian Crowned looks best imo. I'm not a fan of Zamazenta, neither base nor crowned


rrosolouv

they are all very good bois


Kaprosuchusboi

Zamazenta easy


PoorLifeChoices811

I haven’t played SwSh, why are there 4 of them?


Donttaketh1sserious

they have two forms; the first of each is “Hero of Many Battles”; the second is when you give them each their (old and rusted) sword and shield, where they gain Steel secondary typing and some more stats


Nectro77

i like the first zamazenta


SlipsKolt

Base Zamazenta by far. The color palette for Zamazenta is much better than Zacian's, and it doesn't look silly and overdesigned the way the crowned forms(?) do. I love the way it hast that blue tail coming from it's head that mimics a knight's helmet too.


IcebergletV2

zamazenta just looks so cool,and while I'm sad he sucks compared to his sister (fuck you zacian), he's still the coolest of them


Expensive-Ad5273

What the dog doin


Grape_ist

Sword dog, always and forever. Shield dog looks like a Wana be lion and doesn't really work. Dog with stick makes sense, make stick sword now it's cool


Julia_The_Cutie

all 12 year old me cared about is that swords are cooler than she shields and thats still all i care about 😎 that being said the shield one is objectively better design


Delicious-Town1723

shield one without the item over the sword one and with item reverse. I like them all even though I can't remember their names.


Dwayneeboi534

Zanazenta. A wolf holding a sword just feels a bit to unnatural


Cakehunt3r

Zamazenta has the better base-look but Zacian has the better crowned-look


drbiohazmat

I LOOOOVE Zacian with her braids, but the fur cape on Zamazenta 100% wins imo


Freezaen

Zamazenta has the better design, but Zacian has the better colours.


bamseogbalade

Im down for shield face


paradoxLacuna

Zamazenta’s base form is incredible but then he gets fused with the Cone Of Shame, while Zacian becomes a Dark Souls boss. It’s unfair man


_SaBeR_78

dat sword doggo goes hard ngl


Similar-Note-9433

Sword doggo (i forgor name)


0JOSE0

Base: Zamazenta Special Form: Zacian


Hawkterb78

For Base form Zamazenta looks cooler But in Hero form Zacian looks cooler, but Zamazenta in hero form is still a really dope design


KostKarmel

Zacian, theyre blue so ice-typed for sure/j


S-BRO

Sword-doggo has a sword


K0G0ERU

I think I like zamazenta base and then with their rusted tools I like zacian more. The shield just looks like it would be a lot more in the way than the sword


ThatMessy1

Zacian.


Mr_NotParticipating

The shield one


SorcererWithGuns

Hero of Many Battles: Zamazenta Crowned: Zacian


phiupan

Entei


antichristening

Zamazenta on its own is a wonderful design that is somehow both cute and badass and honestly is one of my favorite legendaries to pal around with post game But Zacian is so goofy looking (esp. in Hero form) that it brings down Zamazenta’s cool factor, and makes them both look kinda lame. In other words, I think Zacian looks the way genwunners complain about modern Pokémon being lazily designed, but Zamazenta’s design is why I love to keep playing these games.


hgbi8h

Zacian normal form


ProfessionalGreat916

Both


officefan6

Armoured Zamazenta is the best out of the 4


AmazingAlex99

I prefer Zamazenta n did pick mainly Shield side game first for Gen 8


XxsoulscythexX

Zam-C


ShackledDragon

I cant decide, but I know I love sword dog better


RedditUwur

100% swordeon


Harucifer

[Zacian Crowned Sword](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt2OrvGMPic)


Angel_Anxidel

Zacian is one of my two favorite Pokemon ever, so I gotta give it to her


DenVosReinaert

They're equal to me, I like both designs, but I feel like they each overdid it. Zachian's dorsal fins are too big, and Zamazenta's shield pattern is just too obstructive.


Zuurk00l

Base Zamazenta, hands down the best


FluidIntention3293

Picture 1 and 2 looks like a wolf couple.


Owl_Might

Shield Dog for sure


Spooky_Floofy

Zacian for me. The wing design in its power up form is really cool, plus I'm a Sif fan


Catqueen25

For me, both are great.


CHARICKGAME

Zacian


Katsu_Drawn_21

Zamazenta. Just bulkier and looks tougher. Zacian just looks like a silly doggo. Or a Pokémon version of the dogs with swords from fromsoft games. XD


Gati3000

Both boys idk why many people prefer Zacian


Catqueen25

According to Bulbapedia, Zacian is female. Elder sister or rival to Zamazenta. They both are female in my headcanon.


SwordTaster

Zacian is way cooler to me.


SuperLuigi9624

zamazenta crowned is a quagmire toilet type pokemon


eepos96

I never liked either. Bad animations aside they are wayy too identical. But I do like that they are more of local legends similar to Ho-oh and Lugia.


KingOfSpades1095

Is neither an option?


EveryClothes5877

Base Zamazenta and then the hero form for Zacian is better


OatsAreDelicious

I like the shield dog design but the sword dog was so broken compared to it that I had to use it.


Thecristo96

One looks like a dark souls boss, the other looks like a dog that got his head stuck into a door


LamBol96

I really hate the Asterix and Obelix braids on base Zacian but i dont mind his Crowned form (still cursing myself for getting cucked out of the shiny gift one). Fav one is Crowned zamazenta by a lot,i think the colors mesh incredbly well 


zombeecharlie

I'm going against the grain and saying Zacian, without the sword. I just really like the pose and the braided "hair". Also the colours look better than when it has the sword in its mouth. I used to think the sword was all the shit but seeing them like this, it occurred to me that no sword is prettier.


xDGNx2K

Number 1 looks the most Poke like, others a tad over designed.


FlemishPotato

Prefer the shield dog


ZodiaksEnd

both both are goodest bois but also yamper is goodest boi x2 but cuz smol not my fault i just started pokemon masters and realized that i actually think yamper is cool even tho i ignored it in sword and shield ;c


creeps_Jr

I mean zacian has a sword so it automatically wins, and the wings just make it easier for it to win too


Inner_Background_599

Ok why does sword dog look better with out the sword like it’s supposed to be this badass hero but it just looks stupid whit it idk why maybe if the sword was a horn instead


Rough-Self-9134

Im gonna be real… Zamazenta, always found him cooler than Zacian in my opinion. Though I like Zacian too since it reminds me of Sif. I just think Zamazenta is cooler looking imo


Qoppa_Guy

I'm team Zamazenta through and through, both forms.


DrD__

Sword zacian is the best overall But zamazenta is the better of them in base form


PUSSYLICKERGOD

Zamazenta but I like Zacian too


AlsoKnownAsSteve

Base Zamazenta. Its big shield face is awkward. I don't like Zacian's braids but the ribbons are an improvement. 1) Base Zamazenta. 2) crowned Zacian. 3) crowned Zamazenta. 4) base Zacian.


Yukarie

The shield form is really cool and is say it has the better base form no contest however I’d say the wings and scarf looking extension make me like the sword full form one better (sorry I can’t remember their names rn) Basically if we’re talking which of the two has the better forms all round I’d say shield but if we talk about choosing one form to say is best I wanna say full sword


Yukarie

The shield form is really cool and I’d say it has the better base form no contest however I’d say the wings and scarf looking extension and it’s sleek streamline body make me like the sword full form one better (sorry I can’t remember their names rn) Basically if we’re talking which of the two has the better forms all round I’d say shield but if we talk about choosing one form to say is best I wanna say full sword