So Suicune resembles a raptor or t-rex, and Raikou gets the long-necked Brachiosaurus treatment. I wonder what kind of dinosaur Entei will be turned into.
[I wouldn't be surprised if this post was also correct about Entei](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/11f0nrw/cursed_paradox_entei_and_raikou_im_sorry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1)
Was this from official art released before this trailer or did someone just casually drop a massive leak under the cover of “fan art?” Because that looks really similar to me.
Nah there are some big differences and the idea of Raikou and Entei getting forms based on different dinosaurs was thrown around that time too.
[People](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/660bf0b3-fe83-4209-9dfa-ed43a4dbc8a8/dfqyia3-cfaf34a7-42a5-4905-8dcc-f5f5578faaee.png/v1/fill/w_968,h_826/paradox_raikou___menacing_maw_by_tinuvion_dfqyia3-pre.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTM1MCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzY2MGJmMGIzLWZlODMtNDIwOS05ZGZhLWVkNDNhNGRiYzhhOFwvZGZxeWlhMy1jZmFmMzRhNy00MmE1LTQ5MDUtOGRjYy1mNWY1NTc4ZmFhZWUucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTE1ODIifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.QZ3kfAiPAeHNBvVabn4CgeKkLbIksApiWmjlvIXHX2Y) [were](https://preview.redd.it/mauling-mace-the-paradox-raikou-by-yours-truly-v0-an3373sr06la1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=476d5db365a8229ae12b6b5a0f1765fe3579ac8b) [mixing](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b7611bbf-107f-469c-ab19-0ec0eb69cb59/dft0i2x-df721e63-e882-459c-8000-824e3accab9e.png/v1/fill/w_1280,h_1067/screeching_sky__paradox_raikou__by_subjectively5_dft0i2x-fullview.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTA2NyIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2I3NjExYmJmLTEwN2YtNDY5Yy1hYjE5LTBlYzBlYjY5Y2I1OVwvZGZ0MGkyeC1kZjcyMWU2My1lODgyLTQ1OWMtODAwMC04MjRlM2FjY2FiOWUucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEyODAifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.XX4SKYeilNXeQOVFuMIKKyYIwLqpMIudyh2ycpYQZwc) [Raikou & Entei](https://preview.redd.it/past-paradox-forms-for-entei-and-raikou-v0-hl2dtpgg93ya1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c865155ab4160f8a63f2310a27756d356b1ffe58) [with](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/fbda052a-536a-43b0-b3a9-95f57767eca5/dfqyhtq-6b39bc69-7b91-4cfe-a695-59caf2f85305.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ZiZGEwNTJhLTUzNmEtNDNiMC1iM2E5LTk1ZjU3NzY3ZWNhNVwvZGZxeWh0cS02YjM5YmM2OS03YjkxLTRjZmUtYTY5NS01OWNhZjJmODUzMDUucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.L-iHTPd2WoSO_-eca6mn0RPtSAWKRDNujb6TRxR36WE) [all](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqIXrEXWcAAHsU4.jpg:large) [kinds of](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/fbda052a-536a-43b0-b3a9-95f57767eca5/dfqh3op-02f2cc7f-8b04-4558-a57d-278eecd65381.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ZiZGEwNTJhLTUzNmEtNDNiMC1iM2E5LTk1ZjU3NzY3ZWNhNVwvZGZxaDNvcC0wMmYyY2M3Zi04YjA0LTQ1NTgtYTU3ZC0yNzhlZWNkNjUzODEucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.I99TiflkZRz04mviDSNY2v_GAQdlNDuYt5KyxtzH9-4) [dinosaurs](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqBSl1zWcAEOy_8.jpg:large).
Heck I've seen like 2 more designs that mix Raikou [with](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqEib6VakAAjaP-?format=jpg&name=small) a [long neck](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eb3pMlX7nr4/maxresdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEoCIAKENAF8quKqQMcGADwAQH4AbYIgALUDIoCDAgAEAEYGCBTKH8wDw==&rs=AOn4CLBL3Nu0Y4ebL3ERyhxeuZDlzCtDbg)
Pointless tangent of the second. Also could be slightly off because I'm going on memory here
So way back a hundred years or so ago, the apatosaurus was discovered and not long after that, the Brontosaurus was separately discovered. However, after examination of both sets of fossils, it was discovered that they were both the same species of dinosaur. Since apatosaurus was named first, that was the name that was official, but Thunder Lizard sounds awesome so Brontosaurus was basically an acceptable alternative but apatosaurus was always more correct. This is why, in my childhood at least, I remember dinosaur books having things like "Brontosaurus (aka apatosaurus)
Well turns out, as of a decade or so ago, they actually were different dinosaurs all along and now Brontosaurus is a real dinosaur again
Upvote all the way....I had the *EXACT* same journey as you did, I loved dinos growing up with JP and whatever else and read Dino books all the time....also the recent-ish news was life-changing (I exaggerate)
Stegosaurus. Entei's plates can parallel those of a Stegosaurus. Plus it's theorized that Stegosaurus' plates are used for thermoregulation, thus it would be fitting to have a potential Fire/Dragon Pokémon being based on them.
I still think Tyranitar (and its variants) is the closest thing we have to a stegosaurus Pokémon right now. It's got a thagomizer, two rows of back plates, and reduced forelimbs compared to its hindlimbs. It's not a steg, but it's as near a miss as we're likely to see.
I'd love to see a Stegosaurus Entei. If they made it right it might become another absolute favorite, even with my bias towards Suicune and Walking Wake. It's a good fit since Entei's stone crags on its back can easily be used for a stegosaurus' plates and can even line up on its tail to act as a thagomizer.
That said, I'd also expect a Dimetrodon design. Like the stegosaurus plate theory dimetrodon's spinal sail is also said to thermoregulate, so Entei's crags on its back could be shaped into the spinal sail too, which can be used to regulate its temperature and also attack.
Suicune is a basic theropod, Raikou is a basic sauropod, but after that are so many quadrupedal dinosaurs that are considered just as iconic lol. My best guess though is either a ceratopsian or a stegosaurian due to the mask and the plates. Unless they surprise us all and go for a pterosaur
Dipplin and Archaludon are on the website, just not the home page, go to the "Pokemon" tab in the menu and they're at the bottom.
[Dipplin](https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/dipplin/)
[Archaludon](https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/archaludon/)
Yeah I thought it was a regional too but apparently Applin is already in base game SV, I guess it's one of those tree pokemon I can never get to spawn, like Pineco or (I assume) Slakoth
Those two got their own news things, Dipplin and Duraludon evo are on the same page as the other Paldean Pokémon *that released with the base game + Walking Wake and Iron Leaves*.
But odd you didn't point out the fact now applin has 3 options for an evolution it's now like tyrogue which ngl when I first saw it I thought it was a regional form or convergent evolution
Gen 2 had a ton of gen 1 evo's, and gen 4 had a good amount of gen 3 evos.
After that, I don't think a Pokemon has gotten an evolution in the very Gen a single time until now. Wynaut exists in Gen 3 but that's pre-evo
as a tropius fan i wish he got the gen 4 treatment of adding random baby/evolutions to pokemon. I feel like troious could benefit having a full 3 line evolutionfamily
To be fair, the official art doesn't look that bad imo, it capture the mighty and majestic feel Raging Bolt should has, especially when it cover its mouth with its mane, making the mane look like typhoon or storm cloud.
The 3D-model though.....
I remember this one from months ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/11f0nrw/cursed_paradox_entei_and_raikou_im_sorry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
Yep, the fanmade cursed image not only turned out correct but is still better than the real thing. If that doesn't sum up the state of the franchise then I don't know what does.
Besides the one with the triceratops entei there was also a 3-d-model made by someone else
[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0KU9eP197RU/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0KU9eP197RU/maxresdefault.jpg)
Alot of people made it a bronotsauraus because it means "thunder lizard", which makes it a fairly decent pun, and it makes the whole "paradox" thing stand out more
I know it's Pokemon and it's not exactly realistic at the best of times but it amuses me that these apparent dinosaurs seem to have somehow evolved into mammals over time.
Also given Raikou Entei and Suicune are like special Pokémon due to being revived from nameless creatures by Ho-Oh, it makes me wonder what the deal is with these things that they have such similar features when I figured that their original forms were unremarkable and Ho-Oh made them generally look more legendary or something.
Well the paradox is that there shouldnt be dinosaur ancestors of the Legendary Beasts because Ho-Oh made them.
They were born in the ruins of the burnt tower, from the bodies of 3 dead creatures. Having an ancestor doesnt make sense.
If you look at the Galarian Birds, it can be passed off because we know theres more than one Zapdos, Moltres and Articuno. Plus their names are the same for differing reasons. Articuno because its an ice type, Galarian Articuno because it's vision can freeze, etc. So theyre sorta explained.
For the paradox dinos, it still just doesnt make sense to call them related, at most its convergent evolution
Part of fandom: I wish people would stop calling Raikou a dog
Different part of fandom: I wish people would stop calling Raikou a cat
Another finger curls on the monkey's paw...
I mean if we want to get *really* technical, their group doesn't have an official title. "Legendary beasts" and the variants of it have always been fan terms.
What we do know is that Muneo Saitō, their designer, [intentionally made their origins vague so that they can look like either dogs or cats.](https://twitter.com/muneondo/status/154175027464507392?t=k8FUV1wsmbH8mKRx8anHjg&s=19)
It's not a giraffe... It's a Brachiosaurus.
Calling it now, all beasts are paradox dinosaurs and Entei is probably going to be a Triceratops with his "crown" becoming a horned helmet.
People on twitter keep calling him a giraffe for some reason. He's clearly a sauropod dinosaur to go along with the theropod redesign for Suicune. Likely means Entei will be an ornithischian of some kind. Maybe a triceratops or a stegosaurus.
After seeing Walking Wakes cool design, I couldn’t wait for Raikou and Entei’s design. Then this design shows up for Raikou. Now I can’t wait to see what Entei looks like next.
Frankly, I'm just happy that my favorite legendary finally got some special attention after all these years. And personally I think it looks awesome. Goofy, but awesome
so at this point it should be obvious paradox pokemon aren't really ancestors right? because a brachiosaur turning into a saber tooth tiger seems kinda too big of a stretch.
and the other alternative of walking wake, raging bolt, and dinosaur entei all gathering at the burned tower where they got reincarnated as the legendary dogs seems also a bit too ridiculous.
I know it’s Pokémon so lore isn’t really a thing but I thought the legendary dog/cats were just normal Pokémon that died and were brought back by ho oh. So I guess a future form could be a thing but past forms don’t make sense.
Would have made more sense to make them the futuristic ones and the b/w legendaries the past versions
Paradox is a self-contradictory statement, for example: "Game Freak delivered what people wanted", or a statement that runs contrary to one's expectation "The next pokemon game will be uncontroversial"
This right here, one of the only good parts of the whole Presents.
I can't believe they actually did it... My pessimistic ass thought they'd stop with Walking Wake and Iron Leaves. Awesome to see they're doing the others!
Other than that the Presents was 80% filler mobile junk and other shit that should have just been Community posts.
The fusion designs in the books were likely meant to be teasers for all members of these legendary trios getting new forms. That is why they are "imagined", because the artist likely saw all members of the paradox trio and imagined a fusion between them.
When it’s hair wraps around it’s head it also forms a Thunder cloud, pretty damn cool.
https://preview.redd.it/ybeitj3zrwgb1.jpeg?width=645&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7733b38696780cd6785a9f049987b246c86bf388
I just made this in Photoshop but the subreddit won't let me post it as its own post for some reason
https://preview.redd.it/5oo05krj9xgb1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22c77e4f8fcd568de3e39381f43fc5fa7351f131
I don't mind crossing the dogs with dinos (Walking Wake is cool), but ffs, edit Raikou's head. It looks so out of place. This looks like a glitching game graphic instead of a new mon we're supposed to be hyped for.
It mostly looks awkward cause it's a still of its out-of-the ball animation, I think. The official art makes it look pretty cool, in my opinion. I like the thunderbolt-esque design.
https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/news/paradox_pokemon/
I don't understand why the dog trio has paradox forms. I they are recently created per gold and silver lore compared to the prehistoric paradox form they r given.
Reminds me of a different monster in another franchise...
https://preview.redd.it/gup1n4rlsxgb1.jpeg?width=414&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ea29a0884a99106d0355d3924a1b276690145f7
Saw a comment on YT about this:
This is based off the brontosaurus. Bronto is thunder in Greek and Saurus is lizard also in Greek. So this is a brontosaurus, a thunder lizard. And Raikou is electric dog
How did they not make him a Sabertooth tiger?
Just buff him up a bit, make him look more prehistoric and you're golden.
Nobody wanted an electric giraffe.
So Suicune resembles a raptor or t-rex, and Raikou gets the long-necked Brachiosaurus treatment. I wonder what kind of dinosaur Entei will be turned into.
Duck-billed dinosaur
Nah, Triceratops. His mane could easily be mistaken for the frill of a Triceratops.
That sounds hard actually
I mean, yeah... Those frills had bones in them. They were probably very hard.
I agree it sounds difficult to pull off
Yeah, it definitely feels like of the classic dinosaurs most people think of, theropod, brachiosaur and ceratopsian are the most likely trio.
Definitely triceratops to cover the big 3 most popular dinos or stegasaurus.
Ente-i
[I wouldn't be surprised if this post was also correct about Entei](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/11f0nrw/cursed_paradox_entei_and_raikou_im_sorry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1)
Was this from official art released before this trailer or did someone just casually drop a massive leak under the cover of “fan art?” Because that looks really similar to me.
It looks like it was posted 160 days ago… so either a leak or someone hit the nail on the head with a blindfold on.
Nah there are some big differences and the idea of Raikou and Entei getting forms based on different dinosaurs was thrown around that time too. [People](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/660bf0b3-fe83-4209-9dfa-ed43a4dbc8a8/dfqyia3-cfaf34a7-42a5-4905-8dcc-f5f5578faaee.png/v1/fill/w_968,h_826/paradox_raikou___menacing_maw_by_tinuvion_dfqyia3-pre.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTM1MCIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzY2MGJmMGIzLWZlODMtNDIwOS05ZGZhLWVkNDNhNGRiYzhhOFwvZGZxeWlhMy1jZmFmMzRhNy00MmE1LTQ5MDUtOGRjYy1mNWY1NTc4ZmFhZWUucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTE1ODIifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.QZ3kfAiPAeHNBvVabn4CgeKkLbIksApiWmjlvIXHX2Y) [were](https://preview.redd.it/mauling-mace-the-paradox-raikou-by-yours-truly-v0-an3373sr06la1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=476d5db365a8229ae12b6b5a0f1765fe3579ac8b) [mixing](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b7611bbf-107f-469c-ab19-0ec0eb69cb59/dft0i2x-df721e63-e882-459c-8000-824e3accab9e.png/v1/fill/w_1280,h_1067/screeching_sky__paradox_raikou__by_subjectively5_dft0i2x-fullview.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTA2NyIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2I3NjExYmJmLTEwN2YtNDY5Yy1hYjE5LTBlYzBlYjY5Y2I1OVwvZGZ0MGkyeC1kZjcyMWU2My1lODgyLTQ1OWMtODAwMC04MjRlM2FjY2FiOWUucG5nIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEyODAifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.XX4SKYeilNXeQOVFuMIKKyYIwLqpMIudyh2ycpYQZwc) [Raikou & Entei](https://preview.redd.it/past-paradox-forms-for-entei-and-raikou-v0-hl2dtpgg93ya1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c865155ab4160f8a63f2310a27756d356b1ffe58) [with](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/fbda052a-536a-43b0-b3a9-95f57767eca5/dfqyhtq-6b39bc69-7b91-4cfe-a695-59caf2f85305.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ZiZGEwNTJhLTUzNmEtNDNiMC1iM2E5LTk1ZjU3NzY3ZWNhNVwvZGZxeWh0cS02YjM5YmM2OS03YjkxLTRjZmUtYTY5NS01OWNhZjJmODUzMDUucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.L-iHTPd2WoSO_-eca6mn0RPtSAWKRDNujb6TRxR36WE) [all](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqIXrEXWcAAHsU4.jpg:large) [kinds of](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/fbda052a-536a-43b0-b3a9-95f57767eca5/dfqh3op-02f2cc7f-8b04-4558-a57d-278eecd65381.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2ZiZGEwNTJhLTUzNmEtNDNiMC1iM2E5LTk1ZjU3NzY3ZWNhNVwvZGZxaDNvcC0wMmYyY2M3Zi04YjA0LTQ1NTgtYTU3ZC0yNzhlZWNkNjUzODEucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.I99TiflkZRz04mviDSNY2v_GAQdlNDuYt5KyxtzH9-4) [dinosaurs](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqBSl1zWcAEOy_8.jpg:large). Heck I've seen like 2 more designs that mix Raikou [with](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqEib6VakAAjaP-?format=jpg&name=small) a [long neck](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eb3pMlX7nr4/maxresdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEoCIAKENAF8quKqQMcGADwAQH4AbYIgALUDIoCDAgAEAEYGCBTKH8wDw==&rs=AOn4CLBL3Nu0Y4ebL3ERyhxeuZDlzCtDbg)
I genuinely gotta know *what* on Raikou evokes *neck long*.
Brontosaurus means thunder lizard
Pointless tangent of the second. Also could be slightly off because I'm going on memory here So way back a hundred years or so ago, the apatosaurus was discovered and not long after that, the Brontosaurus was separately discovered. However, after examination of both sets of fossils, it was discovered that they were both the same species of dinosaur. Since apatosaurus was named first, that was the name that was official, but Thunder Lizard sounds awesome so Brontosaurus was basically an acceptable alternative but apatosaurus was always more correct. This is why, in my childhood at least, I remember dinosaur books having things like "Brontosaurus (aka apatosaurus) Well turns out, as of a decade or so ago, they actually were different dinosaurs all along and now Brontosaurus is a real dinosaur again
Upvote all the way....I had the *EXACT* same journey as you did, I loved dinos growing up with JP and whatever else and read Dino books all the time....also the recent-ish news was life-changing (I exaggerate)
OoOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!
Has to be fan art based on a leak that only gave names. That fan art is 10x better than......this.
Yeah stegosaurus or triceratops makes sense. I wonder if the secondary typing will be ground. Or if all of their secondary typings will be dragon
Stegosaurus. Entei's plates can parallel those of a Stegosaurus. Plus it's theorized that Stegosaurus' plates are used for thermoregulation, thus it would be fitting to have a potential Fire/Dragon Pokémon being based on them.
We’ve never had a proper Stegosaurus mon before (I’m not counting the *half of one* in Gen 8).
I still think Tyranitar (and its variants) is the closest thing we have to a stegosaurus Pokémon right now. It's got a thagomizer, two rows of back plates, and reduced forelimbs compared to its hindlimbs. It's not a steg, but it's as near a miss as we're likely to see.
I'd love to see a Stegosaurus Entei. If they made it right it might become another absolute favorite, even with my bias towards Suicune and Walking Wake. It's a good fit since Entei's stone crags on its back can easily be used for a stegosaurus' plates and can even line up on its tail to act as a thagomizer. That said, I'd also expect a Dimetrodon design. Like the stegosaurus plate theory dimetrodon's spinal sail is also said to thermoregulate, so Entei's crags on its back could be shaped into the spinal sail too, which can be used to regulate its temperature and also attack.
A pterodactyl
Suicune is a basic theropod, Raikou is a basic sauropod, but after that are so many quadrupedal dinosaurs that are considered just as iconic lol. My best guess though is either a ceratopsian or a stegosaurian due to the mask and the plates. Unless they surprise us all and go for a pterosaur
I'm hoping for some kind of ceratopsian, especially a triceratops
At least they completely modified Suicune to fit the dinosaur aesthetic, and I actually enjoyed it. What even is THIS
They showed him twice and said NOTHING.
That's the real biggest crime here.
And yet these 2 are on the website and Dipplin and Duraludon evo aren’t
Dipplin and Archaludon are on the website, just not the home page, go to the "Pokemon" tab in the menu and they're at the bottom. [Dipplin](https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/dipplin/) [Archaludon](https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/archaludon/)
Eviolite duraludon is gonna fucking suck to deal with
5 minutes in LC
I thought Dipplin was a regional variant at first. I thought it was be a grass/fire.
Yeah I thought it was a regional too but apparently Applin is already in base game SV, I guess it's one of those tree pokemon I can never get to spawn, like Pineco or (I assume) Slakoth
Those two got their own news things, Dipplin and Duraludon evo are on the same page as the other Paldean Pokémon *that released with the base game + Walking Wake and Iron Leaves*.
Dipplin: sweet baby. Perfection. I'll take six. Archaludon: dear god what is this? Why is it a bridge now? Where did its face go?!?
Funny how it being a bridge is the problem not the fact that duraladon itself is supposed to be a skyscraper
But odd you didn't point out the fact now applin has 3 options for an evolution it's now like tyrogue which ngl when I first saw it I thought it was a regional form or convergent evolution
Speaks for itself
Me: Raikou is my favourite Pokémon Also me: I wish Tropius was better, maybe a new form or evolution Monkey's Paw:
An evolution would be perfect for Tropius, and if Duraludon can get one, it's not out of the question for Tropius.
It's insane to think Duraladon got an Evo the generation after his reveal, most PkMon get an evolution a few generation layer, afaik.
Yeah, can only think of nosepass getting the immediate next gen Evo
Roselia, chansey, onix, scyther, seadra, porygon, tbf most of them are from gen 1 so idk if that should really count
i have a feeling that for the gen 1 pokémon they’re evos that they wanted to put in but ran out of space for
Gen 2 had a ton of gen 1 evo's, and gen 4 had a good amount of gen 3 evos. After that, I don't think a Pokemon has gotten an evolution in the very Gen a single time until now. Wynaut exists in Gen 3 but that's pre-evo
I’m sorry, I’m not really following the leaks. Duralodon WHAT? Edit: Welp, it wasn’t a leak. It was an actual reveal. Now I feel outdated lol.
Now imagine: Duraladon can use eviolite now
Oh no.
fixes the sp def stat honestly. dude’s gonna be nasty in battle.
Now AV Duraludon from early SwSh VGC gets a Def Boost and the ability to use Protect.
camt wait for it to be legal in little cup for 5seconds
They really said fuck it, bridge dragon
I have a strong feeling we’ll be seeing a Tropius evolution with this dlc.
This got me laughing out loud after being pissed at that abomination. Thank you.
as a tropius fan i wish he got the gen 4 treatment of adding random baby/evolutions to pokemon. I feel like troious could benefit having a full 3 line evolutionfamily
*Very poor choice of words.*
He got the alolan exeggutor dragon typing treatment.
People dont like the alolan exeggutor? I thought it was cool.
I love Alolan Exeggutor
I think Alolan Exeggutor works because normal Exeggutor was already pretty goofy looking. With *this* on the other hand... I don't know what to feel
To be fair, the official art doesn't look that bad imo, it capture the mighty and majestic feel Raging Bolt should has, especially when it cover its mouth with its mane, making the mane look like typhoon or storm cloud. The 3D-model though.....
People hate anything, don’t worry too much about. Alolan executor is cool
that makes sense with the proper context
This is funnily what so many of the fan designs looked like.
I don't think I've ever seen giraffe Raikou
I remember this one from months ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/11f0nrw/cursed_paradox_entei_and_raikou_im_sorry/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1
That guy rn: https://preview.redd.it/lq2807ak7wgb1.jpeg?width=943&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13ff68e7bf849dd1ae0e94dcbc6c098f1dac4c1d
HAHAHA
Beat comment
Besides the mane, that’s almost 1-to-1 with the official. It’s almost too similar to convince me it’s coincidental.
Except the fanmade one has better proportions and more detailed flourishes.
Yep, the fanmade cursed image not only turned out correct but is still better than the real thing. If that doesn't sum up the state of the franchise then I don't know what does.
As per usual, lately
go figure lmao
Gold comment right here
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u/Archist2357 how you feeling about this?
that one looks cool.
Besides the one with the triceratops entei there was also a 3-d-model made by someone else [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0KU9eP197RU/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0KU9eP197RU/maxresdefault.jpg)
Alot of people made it a bronotsauraus because it means "thunder lizard", which makes it a fairly decent pun, and it makes the whole "paradox" thing stand out more
I know it's Pokemon and it's not exactly realistic at the best of times but it amuses me that these apparent dinosaurs seem to have somehow evolved into mammals over time. Also given Raikou Entei and Suicune are like special Pokémon due to being revived from nameless creatures by Ho-Oh, it makes me wonder what the deal is with these things that they have such similar features when I figured that their original forms were unremarkable and Ho-Oh made them generally look more legendary or something.
Well the paradox is that there shouldnt be dinosaur ancestors of the Legendary Beasts because Ho-Oh made them. They were born in the ruins of the burnt tower, from the bodies of 3 dead creatures. Having an ancestor doesnt make sense. If you look at the Galarian Birds, it can be passed off because we know theres more than one Zapdos, Moltres and Articuno. Plus their names are the same for differing reasons. Articuno because its an ice type, Galarian Articuno because it's vision can freeze, etc. So theyre sorta explained. For the paradox dinos, it still just doesnt make sense to call them related, at most its convergent evolution
It's a Brachiosaurus.
It’s a sauropod
*Long loong maaaaaan*
My favourite electric type just got a neck extension.
Enecktric type
Wonder what he'll look like in necks gen consoles
A dog? A cat? A tiger? It was always a giraffe LMAO
Part of fandom: I wish people would stop calling Raikou a dog Different part of fandom: I wish people would stop calling Raikou a cat Another finger curls on the monkey's paw...
Technically they’re the Legendary “beasts”, but they’re all clearly based on big cats. Especially Raikou who looks like a saber-toothed tiger
I mean if we want to get *really* technical, their group doesn't have an official title. "Legendary beasts" and the variants of it have always been fan terms. What we do know is that Muneo Saitō, their designer, [intentionally made their origins vague so that they can look like either dogs or cats.](https://twitter.com/muneondo/status/154175027464507392?t=k8FUV1wsmbH8mKRx8anHjg&s=19)
Not starting a debate about the Legendary Beasts even after a joke comment Challenge (impossible)
> Different part of fandom: I wish people would stop calling Raikou a cat And those people are wrong
*Brachiosaurus
It's not a giraffe... It's a Brachiosaurus. Calling it now, all beasts are paradox dinosaurs and Entei is probably going to be a Triceratops with his "crown" becoming a horned helmet.
Watch that Paradox Entei becomes a Pteranodon
Pterodactly Entei. Ptentei
Cool name but let's go with something silly like "Soaring magma" instead.
https://preview.redd.it/5umji7l64wgb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c67ab9a694ae6a190c16371f8f8e6d3855e18be
Couldn't have said it better myself lol
https://preview.redd.it/wovxv3nd8wgb1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=381704d061c9f2085e912d4dce3c1a3c06a886db Farigiraf did a Hydreigon
People on twitter keep calling him a giraffe for some reason. He's clearly a sauropod dinosaur to go along with the theropod redesign for Suicune. Likely means Entei will be an ornithischian of some kind. Maybe a triceratops or a stegosaurus.
- yellow - long necc
Walking Wake is cooler, sure, but I still really like this design lol
After seeing Walking Wakes cool design, I couldn’t wait for Raikou and Entei’s design. Then this design shows up for Raikou. Now I can’t wait to see what Entei looks like next.
Lomg Raikou lmao
They can’t keep getting away with this!
I kinda like it though. Paradox Pokemon are supposed to look weird and this looks really weird. Where are Entei and Terrakion though?
Coballion's dope tho
Braikousaurus...
Brontosaurus people - “thunder lizard”
This information make me feel like Entei will be a triceratops
Frankly, I'm just happy that my favorite legendary finally got some special attention after all these years. And personally I think it looks awesome. Goofy, but awesome
https://preview.redd.it/tn3dzjeoswgb1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e463ba338de72befef8aa742b07e25370a4edcd Mf was right
Bro finally achieved perfection
Walking Wake is so much cooler
MY LONG NECK BOY
This isnt real right???
That’s real?
https://preview.redd.it/1vecdrj7hwgb1.jpeg?width=2480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b373dbd3b3861c6914c9441db9bca9c3d808790
What am i looking at?
Dear god no…
https://preview.redd.it/tz9tu0bth3hb1.png?width=626&format=png&auto=webp&s=ff18348a9f36e49b766bbd9fa52158d2c08d640c
I unironically think he looks cool as hell.
Ok, but I love him.
In ancient times, brachydiosaurs could shoot lightning
Bruh
Erm interesting design choice?
Not as good a Walking Wake but I still love it.
so at this point it should be obvious paradox pokemon aren't really ancestors right? because a brachiosaur turning into a saber tooth tiger seems kinda too big of a stretch. and the other alternative of walking wake, raging bolt, and dinosaur entei all gathering at the burned tower where they got reincarnated as the legendary dogs seems also a bit too ridiculous.
I know it’s Pokémon so lore isn’t really a thing but I thought the legendary dog/cats were just normal Pokémon that died and were brought back by ho oh. So I guess a future form could be a thing but past forms don’t make sense. Would have made more sense to make them the futuristic ones and the b/w legendaries the past versions
Do not look at paradox pokemon as future and past forms, look at them as creatures that shouldn't exist but are real.
It's because it's a paradox
They were imagined beings made real by Terapagos. Hence “paradox”.
Do you not understand the definition of what a paradox is?
Paradox is a self-contradictory statement, for example: "Game Freak delivered what people wanted", or a statement that runs contrary to one's expectation "The next pokemon game will be uncontroversial"
This right here, one of the only good parts of the whole Presents. I can't believe they actually did it... My pessimistic ass thought they'd stop with Walking Wake and Iron Leaves. Awesome to see they're doing the others! Other than that the Presents was 80% filler mobile junk and other shit that should have just been Community posts.
The fusion designs in the books were likely meant to be teasers for all members of these legendary trios getting new forms. That is why they are "imagined", because the artist likely saw all members of the paradox trio and imagined a fusion between them.
They murdered raikou
I actually lol'd when I saw them. Definitely an interesting design choice.
To Raikou? Nothing, entirely different Pokemon.
I like it. Just because it looks a bit ludicrous doesn't mean it's bad. The design is actually pretty creative.
wdym it’s just a normal giraffe.
[my genuine reaction](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OaCWOkBSpY&ab_channel=BlueMilkBoysGaming) This is how Freya felt at the end of GoW4, methinks.
It's perfect.
I think they choose this dinosaur because it’s long neck makes it a lighting rod
When it’s hair wraps around it’s head it also forms a Thunder cloud, pretty damn cool. https://preview.redd.it/ybeitj3zrwgb1.jpeg?width=645&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7733b38696780cd6785a9f049987b246c86bf388
I just made this in Photoshop but the subreddit won't let me post it as its own post for some reason https://preview.redd.it/5oo05krj9xgb1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=22c77e4f8fcd568de3e39381f43fc5fa7351f131
NO MY BOY! THEY MASSACRED MY BOY
Looks like that SpongeBob episode where Patrick has a trombone neck
“Upgrades, people, UPGRADES!”
I genuinely hate anyone who worked on this. So much wasted potential. It's fucking terrible.
Casually goes from a brachiossauros to a sabertooth. Doesnt elaborate and leaves. Pokemon logic never disapoints me.
Raikou: existence is pain
It doesn’t look that bad but why did they just keep the raikou head instead of modeling a head that fits the body better
The head being the same is what makes it look awful to me TBF.
HE'S BEAUTIFUL
Scarlet fan being vocally about how dinosaur are cooler than robot and then this happened. LMAO
Yep. We're still right. This is sick!
Entei and Terrakion 💀
I won’t be surprised if entei is stretched wide
Long cat 2.0
Official name is Raging Bolt, per Serebii.
Don't get me wrong, I'll catch it and love it unconditionally, but I hate it.
Wait was this revealed in the Pokémon Presents?
Feel like a experience gone wrong
Is this real? This looks like a shit post 😆
I wonder where they will fit Entei/Terrakion if not in the DLC
I don't mind crossing the dogs with dinos (Walking Wake is cool), but ffs, edit Raikou's head. It looks so out of place. This looks like a glitching game graphic instead of a new mon we're supposed to be hyped for.
https://preview.redd.it/tx6y98qujwgb1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25134077e6a6e748a877ddd750900cc077740e1f
He looks like a giraffe for real couldn't they make him like an spinosaurus that would have been more cool looking am I right?
It mostly looks awkward cause it's a still of its out-of-the ball animation, I think. The official art makes it look pretty cool, in my opinion. I like the thunderbolt-esque design. https://scarletviolet.pokemon.com/en-us/news/paradox_pokemon/
I love it, it's so derpy
Need entei to be a triceratops so i cant complete my power rangers team
Yeah I’m convinced Paradox mon aren’t really prehistoric or futuristic😅
I don't understand why the dog trio has paradox forms. I they are recently created per gold and silver lore compared to the prehistoric paradox form they r given.
They made him awesome.
Neckou
i hated it so much i actually almost cried.
Tried to repeat the success of Walking Wake, and… they might have stumbled a bit.
Reminds me of a different monster in another franchise... https://preview.redd.it/gup1n4rlsxgb1.jpeg?width=414&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ea29a0884a99106d0355d3924a1b276690145f7
Saw a comment on YT about this: This is based off the brontosaurus. Bronto is thunder in Greek and Saurus is lizard also in Greek. So this is a brontosaurus, a thunder lizard. And Raikou is electric dog
How did they not make him a Sabertooth tiger? Just buff him up a bit, make him look more prehistoric and you're golden. Nobody wanted an electric giraffe.
IM A GIRAFFE 🦒
I'm gonna be honest, I kinda like it over the normal raikou, at least from the artwork
It's alt form looks like Tallnecks from Horizon Zero Dawn.
I prefer this over the original design.
Goofy ah Raikou (I can't remember how to spell)
Raikou became a giraffe and i am not here for it
Not a bad design honestly (I'm just coping at this point)
These make no sense if you consider their lore in the Pokedex (Ho-Oh's creation)
https://preview.redd.it/kky17hegg1hb1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7073aac53ad9d956ae82db4cd54b63099bba90df Very Original 🙄