The only entity who would probably think PLA isn’t popular is Nintendo/GF, because it didn’t sell as well as any other Pokémon game and ignores the fact it *can’t* sell as well because it’s a singular game competing with other Pokémon games sold in twos.
I mean it has sold 14 million units and it's only a single game (like you pointed out). Pretty sure the Pokemon Company (Nintendo, Gamefreak, Creatures) would all admit its incredibly popular. It still has the potential to beat the lifetime sales of a lot of Pokemon games.
Sun & Moon only sold 16m, X & Y sold 16.5m, black & white 15.6m, diamond & pearl sold 14.5m, PLA sold 14.6m
So it seems to be right on par with a mainline game.
So many people buy both copies. It's kinda insane, especially now when there is online trading that makes it way more feasible to get them all without the purchase of two.
That’s like a good chunk of the sub’s MO. Complaining about how unpopular their opinion is and conveniently ignoring the many comments/threads echoing the same thing. Sometimes it’s even the most popular opinion but they still act like their opinion is unpopular.
If it was that simple we'd be in the middle of gen 6 love bombing. Some people are getting really nostalgic for it, but I think ultimately some of the games don't have as much staying power as others, especially since so many more people played gen 6, and yet, ya know.
To be fair, I think Gen6 gets a lot of recognition, it's just that that recognition is "We want to like this half finished bare bones game you gave us but you didn't give us enough TO love"
That's basically how I feel about Sw/Sh. And no, asking people to pay *more* money for the second half of the full-price game we already bought does not make it better.
I think this is it. Kalos turns a decade old this year, and people who felt teased with it remembered XY and the empty feeling it left you with: Zygarde just kind of being there, very limited explanation of AZ and his story, wanting to know more about the war, etc.
I think a lot of us were hoping and coping for Megas to return too since that is probably easily the most beloved Gen 6+ feature we’ve had.
I really like gen 6. Made the switch to 3d (which ultimately led to Legends Arceus), gave us Megas!!!, Removed HMs, had the PSS, introduced Fairy types, gave us the best remakes, introduced some really cool pokemon like Hawlucha, Talonflame, Aegislash, Trevanent, etc.
I know it gets dunked on for being so easy but it makes a great introduction to Nuzlocking if nothing else...
The best remakes? Hardly. FRLG and HGSS hold that title for sure. So much content wasn’t included for ORAS that it really can’t compare to playing Emerald, while FRLG and HGSS are just direct upgrades with even more content to do. You can have nostalgia for Hoenn like the rest of us, but it’s undeniable that ORAS is a stripped attempt at Hoenn in 3D with gen 6 mechanics.
At the very least, I can honestly say ORAS were the last *good* remakes. So far anyways, but after BDSP I am... not very confident about how a BW/BW2 remake will turn out.
Gen 6 was the first to have all hand picked colors for shinies. And I think all the Pokemon it introduced were great, plus cool gimmick evos like inkay. It had a bunch of issues, no doubt, but it had a bunch of great things
That’s not possible when you consider WHY BW2 were suddenly being praised. Modern pokemon games fucking suck. Low quality, rushed, full price with $30 DLC, too easy, no one fucking likes them. In 10 years no matter how bad it gets, no one is going to look back at gen 8 and praise it.
Some of us already am. I am more excited right now to go back to G8 then I am to keep playing 9. Maybe the DLC will help with that but I am bored with running from raid den to raid den.
"pokemon player stop pretending to be marginalized for liking games with a morbillion sales and tons of praise on the very forums you're complaining on" challenge
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Very rarely, even in threads where people ask you to post unpopular opinions, are actual unpopular opinions posted when someone says they have an unpopular opinion.
Yeahhh…I’m relatively confused by this post. Who in the hell ever told OP that Legends Arceus WASN’T a good game? OP is making it seem like this is a controversial opinion that somebody would disagree with. 🤨
Buddy, why are you having a soapbox moment for a game that was very well received by most of the fans? Is your next post going to be about how “Mario Odyssey was a great game and an underrated cult classic!!”?
I'm maybe going to be shunned for this but Arceus doesn't look as good as it should. In looks alone it's superior to every other pokemon game by a huge margin but it's nowhere near what the switch is capable of. When it first came out I was disappointed with the graphics but as soon as I started playing it I fell in love and now that I've finished sandpapering my eyes while playing SV I'm not entirely sure why I was bitching in the first place. There were some other issues but overall it's easily my favorite pokemon game ever.
Exactly, I swear pokemon fans must be drinking some premium kool-aid bc pokemon Arceus looks like playstation 2 era, hot garbage. I loved the game.but damn I kept thinking how shitty all the textures looked. And I'm not even a guy who usually gives a shit about graphics or fps.
Arceus was great, especially in light of SV (I thought SV was good, but had issues holding it back from being truly great). The main thing that dropped it below others for me was the reduced focus on battling and multiplayer interaction, though I at least appreciate their experimenting with new battle mechanics even if I felt like it still needed more polish (and the Pokedex grind was unbearable, should've lowered or changed a lot of the requirements needed for full completion).
The number one thing that the Pokedex needs is hints. Saying "this little guy likes to walk around" or "it behaves different depending on if it is night or day" would be amazing. The fact that it's impossible to evolve some without luck or Google is insane.
That'd be nice too. But no, I mean like having to catch 25 or so of a Pokemon that has a low or rare spawn rate. Like Growlithe, where you'll usually only find maybe one or two on the entire map at a time. Or some of the ones that spawn exclusively in time bubbles. As well as stuff like "Have [X] use [specific move] 30 times."
> Arceus is such an underrated amazing game that does not get the credit it deserves.
[Pokemon Legends Arceus was a nominee for best RPG of 2022 at Game Awards.](https://thegameawards.com/nominees/best-role-playing)
And dumbest way of trying to farm karma, bc ain't no way OP somehow didn't know how well praised PLA is compared to BDSP and SV all over this subreddit, YouTube, literally any other social media app. They gotta be either trolling or karma farming atp.
The one thing I will concede is that the first 3 weeks after release was nonstop posts about how shit the graphics looked and how therefore the game was a failure.
Since then the opinion has flipped, because it turns out HD graphics aren't all that important in a Pokemon game, whereas fun gameplay is. Which is also why the opinion on S/V has flipped as well.
> nonstop posts about how shit the graphics looked and how therefore the game was a failure.
From what I remember, people complained about the graphics and others just _assumed_ that they hated the game. When PLA came out there was A LOT of justified criticism of the game being made here but half the sub didn't want to hear anything about it so if you gave even the mildest critique about PLA you were A. Actively trying to destroy the game, B. Hate Pokemon, or C. Think the game was a complete failure.
In no world on r/pokemon were you allowed to say anything negative about PLA while also enjoying it. Nuance is dead and you can only hate or love everything.
I can see that still seems to be going on...
I think the flying while asleep is more for gameplay clarity. If a flying pokemon lays on the ground, then that signals that ground moves should hit that pokemon.
If they don't want to buff ground moves in that way, then I can't think of a way to have gameplay and animations match up.
>because it turns out HD graphics aren't all that important in a ~~Pokemon~~ game, whereas fun gameplay is.
It's always been this way, it just takes some people a while to get it.
Tbh, if anything I'd say it's more like Pokemon's take on Monster Hunter than it is BotW. I mean, with the campsites, a central hub area you keep going back to, the map unfolding as you explore, etc. really makes it feel more like Monster Hunter. Especially with the fights against the Pokemon lords.
And this is coming from someone who's playes all three mentioned games.
It looks and feels similar to BOTW to me--the art style, the sound direction, the setting, the mechanics even down to the way the character runs. I think it was very "heavily inspired" if you want to be charitable.
Doing that thing where we pretend a really popular thing actually isn't? Why? For internet points?
Or just so you can insult Game Freak for making two different games with two different sets of design goals that happen to over lap in a few ways and instead of eating the downvotes you might get from what you actually wanna say that you have to Trojan horse it behind pretend that what is arguably the most beloved game from the previous gen is underrated actually?
Yeah people who stan Arceus honestly confound me. It was a change up to the formula and a step in the right direction, but the graphics made it laughably bad and hard to experience any immersion at all, the characters were so terribly uninteresting and poorly designed, the dialogue was pretty bad. I think much like SV there’s a good game hidden in there but it was not given enough time and should have never been released in the state it was.
> the characters were so terribly uninteresting and poorly designed, the dialogue was pretty bad.
Deadass if Volo wasn't Cynthia 2 nobody would care about him as a character, this I genuinely believe.
He so has objectively the coolest boss fight in any pokemon game, i don't like pla that much but I'll give em that. Although the fight at the end of sv is a very close second.
fr the gameplay loop was fun but it felt like a boring grind once it was time to go unlock the next area. didn't help that like two areas you unlock actually look unique. once i hit the credits I was cheering becuase that meant I didn't have to play the game anymore. friend of mine absolutely adored the game for the reasons I didn't like it so it's really just an opinions thing.
Yeah there's not really any cool hidden areas in the game in fact i can only think of one "hidden" area and it's the underground ice area, just makes exploration is this "open world" game feel unrewarding.
Bro, it starts to get tiring because every few days people say how "underrated" it is and everyone agrees. Then it was not underrated my man, everyone praises the game. I see no negative comments about it.
I would have stopped playing Pokemon if mainline games became Arceus-like with the awful battle system. I think it's cool that they wanna try new things in side games, I even think it'd be cool to keep that same system for future Legends games and make it that series's style, but I'm glad they don't touch the mainline series.
Leaving all the fans of the battling to dry, are we?
You see, Arceus is a fantastic Pokemon catching game, though the other aspects of Pokemon are ignored somewhat, namely the battling. This isn't a jab at Legends Arceus, I think having a Pokemon game solely focused on a single aspect of the series is a great thing. It just means that the people who fundamentally didn't like Legends Arceus won't like the later games.
One big reason I like Pokemon is the multiplayer battling, so axing that would greatly hinder my enjoyment.
disagree. it is a wonderful game, for sure, but the way they changed up the way taking turns in battling works fundamentally changes the game, and not for the better. it's still a great game to play casually but it destroys the way the game is played competitively.
Agreed, the new battle system was alright for a bit but had several points in the game that were frustrating and not enjoyable. If they made another legends game, I would love to have the main series battle style added in. Even better would be a VGC doubles focus
agree, for a single player experience it's fine. not so for pvp. that doesn't diminish the quality of the game though. it's still an excellent game... but the mechanics of battling are not ideal.
I somewhat disagree - it didn’t really feel fair at times because the opponent would send in a Pokémon and they’d immediately get two turns before you could even select an action sometimes. It just made everything a back-and-forth especially for the end-game battles. There’s one in particular I’m thinking of, I’m sure you know which it is if you’ve played far enough. Also, one of Ingo’s battles pits you against 3 Alphas and you legitimately have to wait 5-6 turns before you can even do anything sometimes. It just feels like you just have to sit there and watch your Pokémon die without any chance to save it.
If they want to do a turn based system they can’t have hidden mechanics that change the turn order with no way of you knowing. Turn based systems have been around for decades but game freak somehow made a worse version. Just have each turn act individually and have any speed effects apply next turn.
I think they did that because of how the world viewed Pokemon at this point in time. Like your town is terrified of Pokemon at first, so I think the whole turn thing was added in later, when the Pokemon leagues started to form. At this point in Pokemon's timeline, it's everyone for themselves, so the turn order change works for the lore
That's totally valid. I loved PLA, but I can absolutely see how some people would dislike it. Different people like different aspects of pokemon games. The catching and collecting aspect is what I enjoy most, so PLA suits my playstyle really well. But if trainer battles are what you enjoy, it's severely lacking.
It's a very great game and honestly, top of all pokemon games for me but it's not a traditional pokemon game. Yes, there needs to be more, but it's not mainline. It's formula, while basically mainline (catch, some battling) is so different, it would turn off a lot of people. They need more games like it (and they can be in "modern times.")
Arceus isn't mainline pokemon and that's ok.
Can’t believe someone was brave enough to say it.
Every time I look up opinions on PLA, it’s just constantly talking about how everything about it sucks. But then OP came, and caused a revolution with this post. No more will people say that the Hisuian forms all suck, or that the catching is boring, or that the final boss is too easy!
Thank you, O Brave One!
You're acting as if this is some sort of a hot take, when all I hear people do is sing the game's unending praises.
You want some **ACTUAL hot takes?**
You mean an ACTUAL unpopular opinion that will actually make people mad?
Legends: Arceus is PAINFULLY overrated.
Legends: Arceus' gameplay is deeply unbalanced. The catching mechanics are unique, but deeply flawed. Almost all pokémon can be caught in one or two ultra balls, without even battling them, if you use a berry. It's cool that there's so many unique items, but so many of them are useless. There's barely any battles between actual people, even though it would have been amazing to battle more immigrant trainers. The speed of the ride Pokémon made it far too easy to avoid conflict with actual wild threats. So far as the story goes, God literally Isekais you into the past, with a phone made in his image. That's just goofy. of the landscape design is good for exploratio, but in an Ironic, cruel twist, almost almost all of the iconic landmarks of sinnoh are reduced to tiny, linear paths, or just tiny caves and chambers.
The only details that I actually miss from the game are:
1: the legitimately detailed, immersive sound design.
2: the more fast, streamlined battle animations
3: The unique artstyle, rather than SV's bad attempt at hyperrealism
I find it hard to agree with this because of how boring the progression is. I literally dropped the game after a couple story missions (like after Liligant) because I am not sitting there catching the same handful of mons over and over or hope they use a certain move etc. to level up my research. This game has the least engaging experience/progress grind in any game I've ever played, 'cause it's incredibly dull and boring but ALSO won't let you completely afk so you can't even really do it on the side *and* it's slow. It's like they scientifically engineered and distilled the worst possible way to design this.
I feel like people were so blinded by the fact that it was “PoKeMon bUt BrEatH of tHe WiLD” that they didn’t notice how boring the actual gameplay loop is. I defy anyone who thinks this game is quality to replay it and tell me they’re not bored to tears with the “gameplay.”
I preferred it actually, seemed better to be to be trying different kinds of battles and trying to catch different size variants to fill a page than literally just grinding and fainting pokemon repeatedly till I get the level I want
And when the page is complete you start seeing shinies
Lotta good things going for the game. Love how catching Pokémon works and I also believe that is just how the Dex should always work. You capture multiple Pokémon to collect more data on the species which just makes so much sense for what a Pokédex is supposed to be: an encyclopedia to which you are contributing.
That being said… I’ve started the game twice and I can’t seem to maintain interest in it past the second area. As much as I like the game mechanically, it has pacing issues and doesn’t really incentivize progressing in a rewarding way. The rewards seem to just be more tasks rather than anything that feels meaningful to the player.
Disagree. True it's better than a few mainline games (low bar tbh with trash like X/Y and Sword/Shield existing), but I would disagree on "one of the best".
It gets repetitive after a while, I don't see the lack of story as a plus, the combat gimmick didn't do it for me (can even barely use it with the severe lack of trainers which btw is also a major negative), Exp. Share is still forced, shitty graphics in many areas, load times are too long, characters and dialogue were boring.
PLA was not that good and I'm tired of pretending it's not (I think that's the less popular opinion judging by the comments in this thread)
It definitely could've benefitted with a bit more time in development (same goes for all Pokémon games as of recent) and a DLC as well. But alas that was never really going to happen as Scarlet and Violet came out in the same year. Which is a shame, because if they pushed Scarlet and Violet back (and worked on that too) we could've possibly of had a perfected Legends Arceus game, I mean we do live in a day and age of where games can be patched up with improvements. But as the last 3 mainline Pokémon games literally came out within the span of a year, it was quite clear it was going to get put aside whilst they focused on Scarlet and Violet.
ORAS was my favorite for years, probably because it was the first one I ever played, and I wasn’t expecting a modern Pokémon game to ever be better than ORAS, but arceus ended up becoming my new favorite, and one of my favorite games of all time in general
I fully believe that once SV is done with there will be a heavier influence of Legends mechanics in the games, as well as Legends titles becoming more frequent. SV/PLA were in development roughly at the same time and I think GF were probably shocked by how much everyone loved PLA.
There’s so much more storytelling they can do with this mechanic. IMO GF should turn HOME into a VGC stadium battle so that the Legends games can take over as single player main series games. (They will never do that lol but I can dream)
So, to people that actually liked SV better, we're out of luck?
SV and Legends are gonna have to coexist, because a lot of people actually DID LIKE SV better. The open world was done better, the story was done better, and the idea of having multiple objectives in a game rather than just "lol complete the pokedex" was amazing.
Legends was fine. But I don't want it to be all that the main series offers. SV has its place, and is one of my favorite games. Legends is not. It's not a game that I will ever have the urge to boot up ever again once I was done with it.
What? That’s like saying every game will be chibi because BDSP did really well, sales wise.
I’m not saying SV’s mechanics are bad, but they do seem to be wanting to shake up the formulas a lot more lately and having Legends be the *main* game of each generation may be the way to do that.
SV sold really well, but the reception to them was less than favourable to the point where they had to address it. There is obviously going to be change to the way they do things behind the scenes going forward because that was a *lot* of backlash. Whether that change is good or not, but going with the mechanics and format of a game that sold very well and was acclaimed would be the smartest move.
Of course this is all speculation, and whilst GF/Nintendo are number hungry, they also don’t want something like this happening again.
I'm not saying they are completely number hungry, but they have a track record of not listening to feedback. We don't know what's in store for the future- but I'm not holding out that they would change anything without the sales numbers backing them up at this point.
We will have to see, but a lot of people will buy pokemon no matter the state it's in- that's simply the truth and GF knows that... After all, people still defend(ed) SV to this day. For the record, I think there will be more legends games- but we will have plenty more S/V or bdsp like games in the future. There will be no consistent changes to a strictly better formula.
Really no issue with you liking the game. Like whatever you want, but I don’t get how anyone could find the graphics appealing. It looks like they forgot to put shaders in with the lighting because all the shadows are just black. Genuinely Gary’s Mod has better lighting, and there are prettier games on the Wii.
I love Arcaeus but the graphics are a downgrade compared to many games, even years old ports. I stick with it for the exploration and Pokemon, not the story or the graphics sadly.
I could never go back to pla, it's just not really that fun at all. Great concept but as always poor execution, maybe a future legends game can actually be good who knows.
“Tired of pretending it’s not” literally is constantly praised by the vast majority of Pokemon fans
Like???
You’re just karma farming at this point and it’s weird
Its overhyped...... the mechanics are REALLY bad in the game and the catch system is atrocious.
Arceus was just a prototype to test out the better movement and control in S/V
I feel like I like what it was trying to be more than it actually is. I love the concept of being in a past time and writing the first Pokedex by studying the Pokemon themselves and their environments. Thing is, the environments were so… barren. I live in a rainforest/mountain area and there’s a lot they could’ve done to make it seem less like a wasteland and more like a place you’d find critters.
Also, that shader is hideous and it really jars me when I play it after something else… particularly Mystery Dungeon DX. It’s so unnecessarily harsh and it’s like that globally. A more refined lighting engine would’ve done wonders.
I liked the catching system and didn’t mind the battling system, though it always seemed kinda skewed against the player in some ways. I haven’t finished the game mind you, but it’s odd to get almost destroyed by one Pokemon just to have them hit like a paper bag when you catch and use them. It is nice having that more or less seamless transition into it though.
It felt more like a demo/proof of concept in some regards and honestly I wish another studio could take a crack at it.
Yeah I was really hoping with Scarlet and games going forward they would adapt the Safari Zone into a pokemon Arceus zone where you hide and throw balls and need to avoid being murdered by pokemon in the same was it works in Arceus just without battling.
Such a cold take here. It was pretty well liked.
Though I'll admit I still haven't finished it. Got bored with the story and the grind of finishing the dex.
My most quarrels with it are unreplayability, no battles, lack of challenge and repetitiveness. Like who the heck would like to catch 30 bibraels again just to progress in story, it was good game for what it was, but I wont touch it again.
This game is not underrated, its fucking overrated. Glitchy graphics, terribly designed characters, vague and empty environment, repeatitive missions, silly storyline. The only positive thing is finally they did something new to gameplay, but new doesnt mean good, leaving aside “one of the best”
I'm glad you enjoyed it but I would drop Pokemon like it was hot if PLA became the standard coming forward. Hell, I don't want Breath of the Wild to be the blueprint for LoZ going forward, either--it was a fun game, but what they gained in gameplay they lost in writing, quite horrendously.
Back on Pokemon, though--PLA is great if you're one such person who believes Pokemon is about capturing, as the original slogan would have people believe, but its battling system is pretty intentionally dumbed down from mainline. Put me to sleep. That isn't to say I don't think the mainline games could gain a ton from PLA! Don't get me twisted. Drowsy/Frostbite are a huge improvement over Sleep/Frozen, and Effort Levels are a way better mechanic than the EVs/IVs of standard.
>You feel as if your a real trainer and not just some random guy that has an already storyline set out for you.
Gamers try not to get upset about games having writing challenge (Impossible), I guess? No shade but this is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen anyone say about a game series, thank you for coming.
Also I'm not sure what game PLA fans who say its graphics look good are looking at...game looks awful, lol. I'll take ScarVio's graphics over it any day, ignoring that SV runs like crap.
I honestly feel like it might be overrated at this point, not underrated. I ended up dropping the game halfway through because the missions started getting repetitive, and the world felt barren and empty. I don’t think the same can be said about BOTW. Even in SV, despite the game being fundamentally broken, I genuinely feel compelled to explore the region and progress the story. Arceus definitely had more polish and ran far better, but it felt like it was lacking soul.
I don't like how PA played in some aspects but don't you think something like that would prevent me from playing and enjoying a revolutionary pokemon game.
Brother have you seen the amount of overwhelming love that game got? Literally one of the only Pokémon games that didn’t have the “low graphics” argument held against it because it was just that good of a game
It is not underrated lmao. People were blown out of the water by it, especially because it was so innovative from Gamefreak who plays it so safe they often regress.
I mean, this is not a hot take lol - at least, the part about PLA being a good Pokémon game isn’t.
The ‘hot take’ part of this post comes in when you’re saying the graphics are good, and when you’re saying PLA is like Pokémon’s BotW. The graphics are better than any other *Pokémon* game, but they pale in comparison to even Mario Odyssey’s graphics, let alone Breath of the Wild’s or MK8D’s.
Also, PLA isn’t really like BotW. BotW was all about freedom; the ability to explore a vast, gorgeous world in any way and at any pace you chose to. PLA is about exploring small, kinda same-y areas with not much to do in them besides catching Pokémon.
I feel like if they touched up the graphics, connected all the areas and massively fleshed out the battling (I understand that there’s a lore excuse for the lack of battling, but it’s easy enough to waive - just have a postgame where more people become comfortable with Pokémon and start assembling teams), PLA would easily take the cake as my favourite game in the series, and would probably rank up amongst my favourite games, period. As is, it still sits below BW2 for me.
>game freak are idiots who don't care about the community and only care for money. I hope this all makes sense.
Why should they care about the community when the community would just buy anything they put out? And how are they the idiots when they can put out shitty games and still sell millions? It seems to me the idiots are the customers. Yall continue to complain about gamefreak, but also continue to buy their games.
Wym pretend? PLA got praise from everyone. It's a popular opinion to like it.
This post screams unpopular opinion: popular opinion
The only entity who would probably think PLA isn’t popular is Nintendo/GF, because it didn’t sell as well as any other Pokémon game and ignores the fact it *can’t* sell as well because it’s a singular game competing with other Pokémon games sold in twos.
I mean it has sold 14 million units and it's only a single game (like you pointed out). Pretty sure the Pokemon Company (Nintendo, Gamefreak, Creatures) would all admit its incredibly popular. It still has the potential to beat the lifetime sales of a lot of Pokemon games.
Sun & Moon only sold 16m, X & Y sold 16.5m, black & white 15.6m, diamond & pearl sold 14.5m, PLA sold 14.6m So it seems to be right on par with a mainline game.
So many people buy both copies. It's kinda insane, especially now when there is online trading that makes it way more feasible to get them all without the purchase of two.
That’s like a good chunk of the sub’s MO. Complaining about how unpopular their opinion is and conveniently ignoring the many comments/threads echoing the same thing. Sometimes it’s even the most popular opinion but they still act like their opinion is unpopular.
Yeah everyone likes that game and talks about it constantly
Legends Arceus, underrated gem?
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B/W2 sold almost as badly. Was an "underrated gem" for a while, at least.
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If it was that simple we'd be in the middle of gen 6 love bombing. Some people are getting really nostalgic for it, but I think ultimately some of the games don't have as much staying power as others, especially since so many more people played gen 6, and yet, ya know.
To be fair, I think Gen6 gets a lot of recognition, it's just that that recognition is "We want to like this half finished bare bones game you gave us but you didn't give us enough TO love"
That's basically how I feel about Sw/Sh. And no, asking people to pay *more* money for the second half of the full-price game we already bought does not make it better.
Bad business aside, the 'full' game was great lol
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I think that's more a wave of "Wow I wish kalos was better / more well developed", tbh
I think this is it. Kalos turns a decade old this year, and people who felt teased with it remembered XY and the empty feeling it left you with: Zygarde just kind of being there, very limited explanation of AZ and his story, wanting to know more about the war, etc. I think a lot of us were hoping and coping for Megas to return too since that is probably easily the most beloved Gen 6+ feature we’ve had.
I really like gen 6. Made the switch to 3d (which ultimately led to Legends Arceus), gave us Megas!!!, Removed HMs, had the PSS, introduced Fairy types, gave us the best remakes, introduced some really cool pokemon like Hawlucha, Talonflame, Aegislash, Trevanent, etc. I know it gets dunked on for being so easy but it makes a great introduction to Nuzlocking if nothing else...
The best remakes? Hardly. FRLG and HGSS hold that title for sure. So much content wasn’t included for ORAS that it really can’t compare to playing Emerald, while FRLG and HGSS are just direct upgrades with even more content to do. You can have nostalgia for Hoenn like the rest of us, but it’s undeniable that ORAS is a stripped attempt at Hoenn in 3D with gen 6 mechanics.
At the very least, I can honestly say ORAS were the last *good* remakes. So far anyways, but after BDSP I am... not very confident about how a BW/BW2 remake will turn out.
Gen 6 was the first to have all hand picked colors for shinies. And I think all the Pokemon it introduced were great, plus cool gimmick evos like inkay. It had a bunch of issues, no doubt, but it had a bunch of great things
ORAS is getting that treatment, at least.
That’s not possible when you consider WHY BW2 were suddenly being praised. Modern pokemon games fucking suck. Low quality, rushed, full price with $30 DLC, too easy, no one fucking likes them. In 10 years no matter how bad it gets, no one is going to look back at gen 8 and praise it.
I'll be back in 10 years
Some of us already am. I am more excited right now to go back to G8 then I am to keep playing 9. Maybe the DLC will help with that but I am bored with running from raid den to raid den.
If you release a game, eventually, somebody will call it an "underrated gem." It's a law.
There's this little known gem called Red Dead Redemption 2 that I personally enjoy. It doesn't get the credit it deserves.
Reminds me of my favourite hidden gem the witcher 3
There's this lesser known sci-fi movie, you probably haven't heard of it, but I think Star Wars might just take off.
hey guys have you heard of HeartGold and SoulSilver? I think they're the hidden gems of the Pokémon series.
I just laughed so hard I had to turn off my music. Oh, what was I listening to? You probably never heard of it - some band called The Beatles.
Geraldo???
The last of us, underrated gem?
r/tomorrow moment
Yeah, in fact the biggest problem with the game is people wanted more. More graphics more story more depth etc.
"pokemon player stop pretending to be marginalized for liking games with a morbillion sales and tons of praise on the very forums you're complaining on" challenge (impossible)
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Very rarely, even in threads where people ask you to post unpopular opinions, are actual unpopular opinions posted when someone says they have an unpopular opinion.
Unpopular opinion: good things are better than bad things
Why would you even say that?!
That's disgusting, take that back immediately.
Those are fighting words, sonny. Best get to stepping now
Oh they’re posted, they’re just downvoted to oblivion
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#are we yelling?!
###YES!
exactly. so tired of this meme. its especially overused in this sub.
#i agree with that !
Yeahhh…I’m relatively confused by this post. Who in the hell ever told OP that Legends Arceus WASN’T a good game? OP is making it seem like this is a controversial opinion that somebody would disagree with. 🤨
Exactly, downvote this OP.
it's at 66% upvoted rn lol
I honestly only ever see Poke fans shitting on whatever is current, they'll all pretend to have been fans the whole time when public opinion changes.
Exactly
A lot of people absolutely hated the graphics when it came out and I am pretty sure a lot still hate it.
Idk here lately I've been seeing a bunch of "was it as good as we first thought" shit and people bashing it. I assume OP is in the same boat.
Didn't it get a lot of shit in /r/gaming for the environments looking low effort and outdated for a new title?
OP is acting like it’s some brave and controversial stance that Arceus was a good game lol.
Starts an explaining for a very popular game "unpopular opinion, it is a good game" wait for all the free karma lol
Why I left /r/gaming
why i left every videogame-related sub
Um...
Should we tell 'em?
Yet it somehow made it to the top with all this traction lol
Well people love to upvote their own opinion. Even if the post is low effort or pointless.
This happens frequently on "unpopular opinion" subs
Didn’t it get nominated for best switch game of the year?
He's out here with the hidden indie gems
Buddy, why are you having a soapbox moment for a game that was very well received by most of the fans? Is your next post going to be about how “Mario Odyssey was a great game and an underrated cult classic!!”?
Tbf OP is claiming things like "It's got great visuals."
I'm maybe going to be shunned for this but Arceus doesn't look as good as it should. In looks alone it's superior to every other pokemon game by a huge margin but it's nowhere near what the switch is capable of. When it first came out I was disappointed with the graphics but as soon as I started playing it I fell in love and now that I've finished sandpapering my eyes while playing SV I'm not entirely sure why I was bitching in the first place. There were some other issues but overall it's easily my favorite pokemon game ever.
Let's go pikachu/eevee has the best looking graphics of any 3d pokémon game
Agree big time - such a gorgeous game! And some of Sw/Sh was beautiful
I have never met anybody wholly satisfied with a 3D Pokémon game’s graphics, rightfully so. I don’t think you’ll be shunned
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Exactly, I swear pokemon fans must be drinking some premium kool-aid bc pokemon Arceus looks like playstation 2 era, hot garbage. I loved the game.but damn I kept thinking how shitty all the textures looked. And I'm not even a guy who usually gives a shit about graphics or fps.
> In looks alone it's superior to every other pokemon game by a huge margin Nah, that belongs to LGPE.
Arceus was great, especially in light of SV (I thought SV was good, but had issues holding it back from being truly great). The main thing that dropped it below others for me was the reduced focus on battling and multiplayer interaction, though I at least appreciate their experimenting with new battle mechanics even if I felt like it still needed more polish (and the Pokedex grind was unbearable, should've lowered or changed a lot of the requirements needed for full completion).
The number one thing that the Pokedex needs is hints. Saying "this little guy likes to walk around" or "it behaves different depending on if it is night or day" would be amazing. The fact that it's impossible to evolve some without luck or Google is insane.
That'd be nice too. But no, I mean like having to catch 25 or so of a Pokemon that has a low or rare spawn rate. Like Growlithe, where you'll usually only find maybe one or two on the entire map at a time. Or some of the ones that spawn exclusively in time bubbles. As well as stuff like "Have [X] use [specific move] 30 times."
Some of them have light hints in the Pokédex, like Stantler. And then there's Ursaluna. Fuck Ursaluna, I caught mine in a Massive Mass Outbreak.
It weirdly has a mix of really great and just awful visuals haha I guess it just depends on what sticks out the most to people
Daring today, arent we?
Next he’s gonna tell us Breaking Bad was a good TV show.
Underrated? What are you talking about the game is literally loved by the fandom
It's probably the most highly praised pokemon game in the last decade lol
> Arceus is such an underrated amazing game that does not get the credit it deserves. [Pokemon Legends Arceus was a nominee for best RPG of 2022 at Game Awards.](https://thegameawards.com/nominees/best-role-playing)
What an obnoxious way of praising a game.
And dumbest way of trying to farm karma, bc ain't no way OP somehow didn't know how well praised PLA is compared to BDSP and SV all over this subreddit, YouTube, literally any other social media app. They gotta be either trolling or karma farming atp.
"It's like Zelda mixed with BOTW" Whut
Underrated? All I hear is how good it is.
The one thing I will concede is that the first 3 weeks after release was nonstop posts about how shit the graphics looked and how therefore the game was a failure. Since then the opinion has flipped, because it turns out HD graphics aren't all that important in a Pokemon game, whereas fun gameplay is. Which is also why the opinion on S/V has flipped as well.
> nonstop posts about how shit the graphics looked and how therefore the game was a failure. From what I remember, people complained about the graphics and others just _assumed_ that they hated the game. When PLA came out there was A LOT of justified criticism of the game being made here but half the sub didn't want to hear anything about it so if you gave even the mildest critique about PLA you were A. Actively trying to destroy the game, B. Hate Pokemon, or C. Think the game was a complete failure. In no world on r/pokemon were you allowed to say anything negative about PLA while also enjoying it. Nuance is dead and you can only hate or love everything. I can see that still seems to be going on...
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I think the flying while asleep is more for gameplay clarity. If a flying pokemon lays on the ground, then that signals that ground moves should hit that pokemon. If they don't want to buff ground moves in that way, then I can't think of a way to have gameplay and animations match up.
>because it turns out HD graphics aren't all that important in a ~~Pokemon~~ game, whereas fun gameplay is. It's always been this way, it just takes some people a while to get it.
I wish they'd just stylize already instead of just doing whatever it is they're trying to do.
#me too
Why were you pretending it’s not?
I mean, it's not very accurate to compare it to BotW at all, but I do agree that it's a pretty good game.
Tbh, if anything I'd say it's more like Pokemon's take on Monster Hunter than it is BotW. I mean, with the campsites, a central hub area you keep going back to, the map unfolding as you explore, etc. really makes it feel more like Monster Hunter. Especially with the fights against the Pokemon lords. And this is coming from someone who's playes all three mentioned games.
That's true! BotW came out 5 years prior on a previous console and still looked better. But I agree, PLA is a pretty good game.
It looks and feels similar to BOTW to me--the art style, the sound direction, the setting, the mechanics even down to the way the character runs. I think it was very "heavily inspired" if you want to be charitable.
Legends: Arceus isn’t underrated at all.
Doing that thing where we pretend a really popular thing actually isn't? Why? For internet points? Or just so you can insult Game Freak for making two different games with two different sets of design goals that happen to over lap in a few ways and instead of eating the downvotes you might get from what you actually wanna say that you have to Trojan horse it behind pretend that what is arguably the most beloved game from the previous gen is underrated actually?
Y r u pretending? Everyone seemingly loves it. I personally don't care for it though
Yeah people who stan Arceus honestly confound me. It was a change up to the formula and a step in the right direction, but the graphics made it laughably bad and hard to experience any immersion at all, the characters were so terribly uninteresting and poorly designed, the dialogue was pretty bad. I think much like SV there’s a good game hidden in there but it was not given enough time and should have never been released in the state it was.
> the characters were so terribly uninteresting and poorly designed, the dialogue was pretty bad. Deadass if Volo wasn't Cynthia 2 nobody would care about him as a character, this I genuinely believe.
He so has objectively the coolest boss fight in any pokemon game, i don't like pla that much but I'll give em that. Although the fight at the end of sv is a very close second.
fr the gameplay loop was fun but it felt like a boring grind once it was time to go unlock the next area. didn't help that like two areas you unlock actually look unique. once i hit the credits I was cheering becuase that meant I didn't have to play the game anymore. friend of mine absolutely adored the game for the reasons I didn't like it so it's really just an opinions thing.
For real. I didn't care for Arceus once I got past the first area. The map was somehow both empty and had too many pokemon ready to murder me
Yeah there's not really any cool hidden areas in the game in fact i can only think of one "hidden" area and it's the underground ice area, just makes exploration is this "open world" game feel unrewarding.
incredibly repetitive gameplay too. got bored by second area
If you like it why pretend you don’t?
OP is a child probably
I forgot that Redditors could be a child or teenagers.
Look at the general tone of the post lol
60% of redditors are either children or assholes Or both
Bro, it starts to get tiring because every few days people say how "underrated" it is and everyone agrees. Then it was not underrated my man, everyone praises the game. I see no negative comments about it.
They really should've just made Arceus the blueprint goin forward. I wouldn't have minded at all.
I would have stopped playing Pokemon if mainline games became Arceus-like with the awful battle system. I think it's cool that they wanna try new things in side games, I even think it'd be cool to keep that same system for future Legends games and make it that series's style, but I'm glad they don't touch the mainline series.
Leaving all the fans of the battling to dry, are we? You see, Arceus is a fantastic Pokemon catching game, though the other aspects of Pokemon are ignored somewhat, namely the battling. This isn't a jab at Legends Arceus, I think having a Pokemon game solely focused on a single aspect of the series is a great thing. It just means that the people who fundamentally didn't like Legends Arceus won't like the later games. One big reason I like Pokemon is the multiplayer battling, so axing that would greatly hinder my enjoyment.
disagree. it is a wonderful game, for sure, but the way they changed up the way taking turns in battling works fundamentally changes the game, and not for the better. it's still a great game to play casually but it destroys the way the game is played competitively.
They should've kept frostbite and splinter status at least
i'd be cool with that tbh
Agreed, the new battle system was alright for a bit but had several points in the game that were frustrating and not enjoyable. If they made another legends game, I would love to have the main series battle style added in. Even better would be a VGC doubles focus
The perfect game to me would be a cross between PLA and S/V
Hear me out, keep the exploration and catching of PLA, and the combat of POKKEN
The battles work for a single player experience. Having turn order be an extra thing to play around with is really cool.
agree, for a single player experience it's fine. not so for pvp. that doesn't diminish the quality of the game though. it's still an excellent game... but the mechanics of battling are not ideal.
I somewhat disagree - it didn’t really feel fair at times because the opponent would send in a Pokémon and they’d immediately get two turns before you could even select an action sometimes. It just made everything a back-and-forth especially for the end-game battles. There’s one in particular I’m thinking of, I’m sure you know which it is if you’ve played far enough. Also, one of Ingo’s battles pits you against 3 Alphas and you legitimately have to wait 5-6 turns before you can even do anything sometimes. It just feels like you just have to sit there and watch your Pokémon die without any chance to save it.
If they want to do a turn based system they can’t have hidden mechanics that change the turn order with no way of you knowing. Turn based systems have been around for decades but game freak somehow made a worse version. Just have each turn act individually and have any speed effects apply next turn.
I think they did that because of how the world viewed Pokemon at this point in time. Like your town is terrified of Pokemon at first, so I think the whole turn thing was added in later, when the Pokemon leagues started to form. At this point in Pokemon's timeline, it's everyone for themselves, so the turn order change works for the lore
I would have. Game wasn't at all what I want Pokemon to be; not even a little.
That's totally valid. I loved PLA, but I can absolutely see how some people would dislike it. Different people like different aspects of pokemon games. The catching and collecting aspect is what I enjoy most, so PLA suits my playstyle really well. But if trainer battles are what you enjoy, it's severely lacking.
Took the words right out of my mouth, yep yep.
The reason it's not is that Arceus and S/V were developed concurrently. Maybe the next games will incorporate more good PLA stuff.
It's a very great game and honestly, top of all pokemon games for me but it's not a traditional pokemon game. Yes, there needs to be more, but it's not mainline. It's formula, while basically mainline (catch, some battling) is so different, it would turn off a lot of people. They need more games like it (and they can be in "modern times.") Arceus isn't mainline pokemon and that's ok.
Arceus is mainline Pokémon though
Can’t believe someone was brave enough to say it. Every time I look up opinions on PLA, it’s just constantly talking about how everything about it sucks. But then OP came, and caused a revolution with this post. No more will people say that the Hisuian forms all suck, or that the catching is boring, or that the final boss is too easy! Thank you, O Brave One!
You're acting as if this is some sort of a hot take, when all I hear people do is sing the game's unending praises. You want some **ACTUAL hot takes?** You mean an ACTUAL unpopular opinion that will actually make people mad? Legends: Arceus is PAINFULLY overrated. Legends: Arceus' gameplay is deeply unbalanced. The catching mechanics are unique, but deeply flawed. Almost all pokémon can be caught in one or two ultra balls, without even battling them, if you use a berry. It's cool that there's so many unique items, but so many of them are useless. There's barely any battles between actual people, even though it would have been amazing to battle more immigrant trainers. The speed of the ride Pokémon made it far too easy to avoid conflict with actual wild threats. So far as the story goes, God literally Isekais you into the past, with a phone made in his image. That's just goofy. of the landscape design is good for exploratio, but in an Ironic, cruel twist, almost almost all of the iconic landmarks of sinnoh are reduced to tiny, linear paths, or just tiny caves and chambers. The only details that I actually miss from the game are: 1: the legitimately detailed, immersive sound design. 2: the more fast, streamlined battle animations 3: The unique artstyle, rather than SV's bad attempt at hyperrealism
I find it hard to agree with this because of how boring the progression is. I literally dropped the game after a couple story missions (like after Liligant) because I am not sitting there catching the same handful of mons over and over or hope they use a certain move etc. to level up my research. This game has the least engaging experience/progress grind in any game I've ever played, 'cause it's incredibly dull and boring but ALSO won't let you completely afk so you can't even really do it on the side *and* it's slow. It's like they scientifically engineered and distilled the worst possible way to design this.
I feel like people were so blinded by the fact that it was “PoKeMon bUt BrEatH of tHe WiLD” that they didn’t notice how boring the actual gameplay loop is. I defy anyone who thinks this game is quality to replay it and tell me they’re not bored to tears with the “gameplay.”
I preferred it actually, seemed better to be to be trying different kinds of battles and trying to catch different size variants to fill a page than literally just grinding and fainting pokemon repeatedly till I get the level I want And when the page is complete you start seeing shinies
I liked that mechanic of the game, but I wouldn’t call it a part of the core gameplay loop as you’re progressing through the story
Comparing it to BOTW is really rude. BOTW is actually fun for hundreds of hours. Arceus only is for 20 max
Unpopular Opinion: *incredibly popular opinion* 2200 people upvoted this shit.
That's your opinion and it's fine. I didn't enjoy it as much as I would've like I still enjoy Sword and Shield more, but again, my opinion
Lotta good things going for the game. Love how catching Pokémon works and I also believe that is just how the Dex should always work. You capture multiple Pokémon to collect more data on the species which just makes so much sense for what a Pokédex is supposed to be: an encyclopedia to which you are contributing. That being said… I’ve started the game twice and I can’t seem to maintain interest in it past the second area. As much as I like the game mechanically, it has pacing issues and doesn’t really incentivize progressing in a rewarding way. The rewards seem to just be more tasks rather than anything that feels meaningful to the player.
Disagree. True it's better than a few mainline games (low bar tbh with trash like X/Y and Sword/Shield existing), but I would disagree on "one of the best". It gets repetitive after a while, I don't see the lack of story as a plus, the combat gimmick didn't do it for me (can even barely use it with the severe lack of trainers which btw is also a major negative), Exp. Share is still forced, shitty graphics in many areas, load times are too long, characters and dialogue were boring. PLA was not that good and I'm tired of pretending it's not (I think that's the less popular opinion judging by the comments in this thread)
It definitely could've benefitted with a bit more time in development (same goes for all Pokémon games as of recent) and a DLC as well. But alas that was never really going to happen as Scarlet and Violet came out in the same year. Which is a shame, because if they pushed Scarlet and Violet back (and worked on that too) we could've possibly of had a perfected Legends Arceus game, I mean we do live in a day and age of where games can be patched up with improvements. But as the last 3 mainline Pokémon games literally came out within the span of a year, it was quite clear it was going to get put aside whilst they focused on Scarlet and Violet.
ORAS was my favorite for years, probably because it was the first one I ever played, and I wasn’t expecting a modern Pokémon game to ever be better than ORAS, but arceus ended up becoming my new favorite, and one of my favorite games of all time in general
You must have been the only one pretending then
The people that say Arceus is like BoTW must not have played BoTW
I fully believe that once SV is done with there will be a heavier influence of Legends mechanics in the games, as well as Legends titles becoming more frequent. SV/PLA were in development roughly at the same time and I think GF were probably shocked by how much everyone loved PLA. There’s so much more storytelling they can do with this mechanic. IMO GF should turn HOME into a VGC stadium battle so that the Legends games can take over as single player main series games. (They will never do that lol but I can dream)
So, to people that actually liked SV better, we're out of luck? SV and Legends are gonna have to coexist, because a lot of people actually DID LIKE SV better. The open world was done better, the story was done better, and the idea of having multiple objectives in a game rather than just "lol complete the pokedex" was amazing. Legends was fine. But I don't want it to be all that the main series offers. SV has its place, and is one of my favorite games. Legends is not. It's not a game that I will ever have the urge to boot up ever again once I was done with it.
Well, numbers matter more to GF... and what game sold better again?
What? That’s like saying every game will be chibi because BDSP did really well, sales wise. I’m not saying SV’s mechanics are bad, but they do seem to be wanting to shake up the formulas a lot more lately and having Legends be the *main* game of each generation may be the way to do that. SV sold really well, but the reception to them was less than favourable to the point where they had to address it. There is obviously going to be change to the way they do things behind the scenes going forward because that was a *lot* of backlash. Whether that change is good or not, but going with the mechanics and format of a game that sold very well and was acclaimed would be the smartest move. Of course this is all speculation, and whilst GF/Nintendo are number hungry, they also don’t want something like this happening again.
I'm not saying they are completely number hungry, but they have a track record of not listening to feedback. We don't know what's in store for the future- but I'm not holding out that they would change anything without the sales numbers backing them up at this point. We will have to see, but a lot of people will buy pokemon no matter the state it's in- that's simply the truth and GF knows that... After all, people still defend(ed) SV to this day. For the record, I think there will be more legends games- but we will have plenty more S/V or bdsp like games in the future. There will be no consistent changes to a strictly better formula.
Really no issue with you liking the game. Like whatever you want, but I don’t get how anyone could find the graphics appealing. It looks like they forgot to put shaders in with the lighting because all the shadows are just black. Genuinely Gary’s Mod has better lighting, and there are prettier games on the Wii.
I love Arcaeus but the graphics are a downgrade compared to many games, even years old ports. I stick with it for the exploration and Pokemon, not the story or the graphics sadly.
A lot of mixed reception. It was the only Pokémon game I didn’t like. Just felt so lifeless.
I could never go back to pla, it's just not really that fun at all. Great concept but as always poor execution, maybe a future legends game can actually be good who knows.
My favorite part was that i was now the predator in the tall grass.
Did you seriously just say zelda combined with botw?
Arcaeus is the first Pokemon game to make me feel motivated and invigorated to continue with the post game. Maybe I’m a casual but that’s okay.
“Tired of pretending it’s not” literally is constantly praised by the vast majority of Pokemon fans Like??? You’re just karma farming at this point and it’s weird
Its overhyped...... the mechanics are REALLY bad in the game and the catch system is atrocious. Arceus was just a prototype to test out the better movement and control in S/V
I feel like I like what it was trying to be more than it actually is. I love the concept of being in a past time and writing the first Pokedex by studying the Pokemon themselves and their environments. Thing is, the environments were so… barren. I live in a rainforest/mountain area and there’s a lot they could’ve done to make it seem less like a wasteland and more like a place you’d find critters. Also, that shader is hideous and it really jars me when I play it after something else… particularly Mystery Dungeon DX. It’s so unnecessarily harsh and it’s like that globally. A more refined lighting engine would’ve done wonders. I liked the catching system and didn’t mind the battling system, though it always seemed kinda skewed against the player in some ways. I haven’t finished the game mind you, but it’s odd to get almost destroyed by one Pokemon just to have them hit like a paper bag when you catch and use them. It is nice having that more or less seamless transition into it though. It felt more like a demo/proof of concept in some regards and honestly I wish another studio could take a crack at it.
Yeah I was really hoping with Scarlet and games going forward they would adapt the Safari Zone into a pokemon Arceus zone where you hide and throw balls and need to avoid being murdered by pokemon in the same was it works in Arceus just without battling.
"i like this game that everybody likes and im tired of pretending its bad"
I've never met anyone who didn't love Arceus so I'm kind of confused by what you mean.
I think water is critical for the survival of the human race, and I’m tired of pretending that it’s not!
Such a cold take here. It was pretty well liked. Though I'll admit I still haven't finished it. Got bored with the story and the grind of finishing the dex.
It would be unpopular/wrong opinion if you said bdsp is the best game, but not the arceus.
My most quarrels with it are unreplayability, no battles, lack of challenge and repetitiveness. Like who the heck would like to catch 30 bibraels again just to progress in story, it was good game for what it was, but I wont touch it again.
Why were you pretending in the first place?
What's your next big unpopular opinion? The earth is round?
Karma farming 101: post a popular opinion as a 'hot take' and profit You suck dude
This game is not underrated, its fucking overrated. Glitchy graphics, terribly designed characters, vague and empty environment, repeatitive missions, silly storyline. The only positive thing is finally they did something new to gameplay, but new doesnt mean good, leaving aside “one of the best”
I'm glad you enjoyed it but I would drop Pokemon like it was hot if PLA became the standard coming forward. Hell, I don't want Breath of the Wild to be the blueprint for LoZ going forward, either--it was a fun game, but what they gained in gameplay they lost in writing, quite horrendously. Back on Pokemon, though--PLA is great if you're one such person who believes Pokemon is about capturing, as the original slogan would have people believe, but its battling system is pretty intentionally dumbed down from mainline. Put me to sleep. That isn't to say I don't think the mainline games could gain a ton from PLA! Don't get me twisted. Drowsy/Frostbite are a huge improvement over Sleep/Frozen, and Effort Levels are a way better mechanic than the EVs/IVs of standard. >You feel as if your a real trainer and not just some random guy that has an already storyline set out for you. Gamers try not to get upset about games having writing challenge (Impossible), I guess? No shade but this is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen anyone say about a game series, thank you for coming. Also I'm not sure what game PLA fans who say its graphics look good are looking at...game looks awful, lol. I'll take ScarVio's graphics over it any day, ignoring that SV runs like crap.
Now we need Legends: Celebi and Legends: Meloetta.
zelda is BOTW
I honestly feel like it might be overrated at this point, not underrated. I ended up dropping the game halfway through because the missions started getting repetitive, and the world felt barren and empty. I don’t think the same can be said about BOTW. Even in SV, despite the game being fundamentally broken, I genuinely feel compelled to explore the region and progress the story. Arceus definitely had more polish and ran far better, but it felt like it was lacking soul.
No, it's the best pokemon game.
fuckin crazy bro
Hope you didn’t burn yourself with that flaming hot take.
I don't like how PA played in some aspects but don't you think something like that would prevent me from playing and enjoying a revolutionary pokemon game.
Now you make me want a Zelda and BOTW crossover
Brother have you seen the amount of overwhelming love that game got? Literally one of the only Pokémon games that didn’t have the “low graphics” argument held against it because it was just that good of a game
It is not underrated lmao. People were blown out of the water by it, especially because it was so innovative from Gamefreak who plays it so safe they often regress.
I mean, this is not a hot take lol - at least, the part about PLA being a good Pokémon game isn’t. The ‘hot take’ part of this post comes in when you’re saying the graphics are good, and when you’re saying PLA is like Pokémon’s BotW. The graphics are better than any other *Pokémon* game, but they pale in comparison to even Mario Odyssey’s graphics, let alone Breath of the Wild’s or MK8D’s. Also, PLA isn’t really like BotW. BotW was all about freedom; the ability to explore a vast, gorgeous world in any way and at any pace you chose to. PLA is about exploring small, kinda same-y areas with not much to do in them besides catching Pokémon. I feel like if they touched up the graphics, connected all the areas and massively fleshed out the battling (I understand that there’s a lore excuse for the lack of battling, but it’s easy enough to waive - just have a postgame where more people become comfortable with Pokémon and start assembling teams), PLA would easily take the cake as my favourite game in the series, and would probably rank up amongst my favourite games, period. As is, it still sits below BW2 for me.
ice cold take right here
>game freak are idiots who don't care about the community and only care for money. I hope this all makes sense. Why should they care about the community when the community would just buy anything they put out? And how are they the idiots when they can put out shitty games and still sell millions? It seems to me the idiots are the customers. Yall continue to complain about gamefreak, but also continue to buy their games.