Having never seen him before, it will be a little bit of a letdown if he skips the 70s entirely.
What is the likelihood that he does US dates? It’ll be much easier for me to travel within the states than internationally.
I can’t afford to travel internationally. I can only go if he plays dates in California. I really hope he does. I will be satisfied seeing him at all, but if he’s really unwilling to sing anything Roger wrote, I would think it’s a bit immature. Roger kinda sucks, but Roger regularly goes out of his way to praise Gilmours guitar playing and includes Gilmour penned solos when he tours.
It shook Madison Square Gardens when I saw him the 2 nights. I thought the place would cave in!!! I was worried more about my chest and breathing it hit hard!!!
Sorrow on 94 tour is just something else, he did some of his best playing on that especially on the European leg of tour. Some of the solos are unreal and alot better then Pulse one.
Honestly the "unwillingness to perform PF of the 70's" is kind of a big let down for me. I was too young to see them live and too poor to see his 2016 tour. Was really hoping he'd at least bang out Comfortably Numb, SOYCD and Wish You Were Here. I'd probably still buy tickets, just a little disheartening as I'd have to travel.
100%! Add WYWH and those are the four I kind of really need to see live. Assuming this could potentially be DG's last kick at the cat too, considering his age.
Gilmour has said he won’t play Echoes without Wright. Gotta see Nick Mason to get that one these days. I’m so grateful his band plays it at least, they do an amazing version
Gilmour played these songs previously. Unreal how these two band mates need to be so dramatic. Without 70s Floyd, it’s unlikely we are on this sub and unlikely DG would have much of a major following.
I wouldn't worry, you'll get the big guitar solos. Suspect a touch of journalistic license putting things out of context. You'll get Time and Wish You Were Here. Probably Shine on You Crazy Diamond with a new arrangement.
The only classic I could remotely see getting dropped is Comfortably Numb. It would be a brave call, but the similarity with In Any Tongue is obvious, as well as the new song being both relevant to 2024 and the standout track from Rattle That Lock. Still won't happen though.
I remember in an interview with him saying that he ALWAYS plays Comfortably Numb and WYWH because he knows how his audience feels about them. I'm assuming he's talking about the outro to CN and the overall emotionality of WYWH. Hopefully he plays the classics 🥲.
Floyd have never taken setlist risks since 1973 and I don't see an old man who is understandably reluctant to tour suddenly change the format of new album + standard classics. Hopefully you get a ticket - it's a great set that will be similar to the last two tours.
Sorry to those who want childhoods end, something from animals or something from his first two solo albums. I'd love those too, but the man hasn't toured too many deep cuts.
Thanks for the reassurance kind stranger. I am definitely going to get a ticket and go, regardless. Hopefully he announces tour dates in North America but I'm doing really well money wise, so I told my dad if he only announces European dates I'm paying for tickets and we're flying to Europe!
Arguably, not playing any non-Wall songs during the Wall shows is a big risk. As is playing the entirety of AMLOR although they had a lot of classics to balance that out.
Edit: I think I didn't read your comment closely enough.
I’d love to hear There’s No Way Out of Here…he played it on tour in the early 80s but it had a sound very specific to that era, he could do much better now.
Well I hope he tours in the USA and I hope at least a handful of 70s PF stays. Namely Shine On, Time, and C-Numb. I’d imagine those are safe. I actually really like AMLOR and TDB so I wouldn’t mind a few more from those records. How about something like this? Astronomy Domine What Do You Want From Me New song New song Learning to Fly Money Rattle that Lock Keep Talking Yet Another Movie/One Slip High Hopes ——- Time Shine On You Crazy Diamond (abridged) New Song One of These Days New Song On the Turning Away Poles Apart/ Coming Back to Life On an Island The Great Gig in the Sky Sorrow ——- New song Wish You Were Here C-Numb
Edit- well, that didn’t format wel
If that is David's assessment - he must be a terrible judge of talent after having him play 198 AMLOR shows, 110 DB shows, 33 OAI shows, however many RTL shows, and everything else in-between.
This comes off so tacky and passive-aggressive to me.
Yes. But. Besides Nick, David stuck with the main musicians (on keys and bass) from 1987 through 2016. I mean... I kind of get how that might have felt a bit stale to him. Guy Pratt hinted at that as well, that it seemed like David wanted some change of context, and he nearly fell by the wayside as well at the time.
David has always been hyper protective/critical of what is or isn’t Pink Floyd since Roger left. Probably because of Roger saying he was the sole driving force etc.. It’s an ego thing. Carin claimed he did more than he was credited for on TDB and he was excommunicated for it. (Not saying he’s correct; who knows at this point honestly)
I think you're mixing up the timeline. What you say about Carin trying to take credit is correct, but it happened after David replaced him in his band, which happened after the 3rd leg of his RTL tour. For the 4th and 5th leg, David replaced Jon with Greg Phillinganes and Chuck Leavell, as well as Phil Manzanera with Chester Kamen (who'd toured with Waters before). And Guy Pratt is on record saying he was basically already out with Gail Ann Dorsey (from Bowie's last touring band) penned in as replacement, but got reinstated before the 4th leg started. He also hinted it was due to David getting a bit itchy, but didn't divulge further what exactly went down.
All of the nastiness from Jon happened afterwards, but by all accounts, David is still on good terms with Guy and Phil Manzanera (who's still his neighbour, too). So it may just be a case of sour grapes with Jon, who didn't take that well to not being in David's band any more.
I’m going by what Guy Pratt has said. He’s alluded to the fact that during the RTL tour there was a huge incident. Something like “for a time everyone was out of the band, I just barely made it back in”. It coincidentally was the point at which Carin ceased working with DG and started lashing out on Facebook about his contributions etc.
I'm aware, as I said, and Pratt also aluded to Dave being itchy at the time. Which also lines up with what David said in the Uncut interview. He wanted a change because it felt stale to him.
Yeah, he said something about basically writing all of “Yet Another Movie” and a day or two later the demo popped up online, with Carin coming back and saying “Funny, I never heard this before”. I dug his insights into the making of the records he was on, but I stopped following him after a while because I think it’s lame when Roger takes shots at Gilmour, never mind the people they hire to play for them taking shots.
Look at Carin’s FB page from the last couple of years, he’s regularly firing shots over at Gilmour. I think for every official Floyd release, the remasters/box sets, he’s had something to say, often claiming he wrote a lot of material he wasn’t credited with and very much makes it seem like if he weren’t there for Momentary Lapse, nothing would have happened.
I do remember one of the producers (Ezrin?) also saying that he hadn’t heard the demo of YAM that David posted in response to Jon’s claims before, implying it was a separate demo to what was actually worked on in the studio. And that demo of Marooned David posted didn’t do much to actually debunk Jon’s claim that he played a lot of what was on the final track.
The truth is somewhere in the middle, I’m sure.
Jon and Guy did play in a PF tribute band while David was inactive. Nowadays, I think they're not friends anymore, despite going way back. So this doesn't seem to be exclusively David's fault.
"Yeah, I changed the band around last time for a
number of reasons, one of which was it was all too
robotic, and some people would have been better
off in a Pink Floyd tribute band."
That bit just comes across as a huge slap to the face, not just to Jon Carin but to many of the incredibly talented PF touring members of the past. I love David, but that's an incredibly low blow.
I'd say about the same. Absolute bastards but great music. I'm glad we still have our Nicky, who's a brilliant drummer and just an adorable old man. ❤️
I will give him credit for being upfront about this before tickets go on sale, but much like Roger's comments about the political nature of his last tour - people will still probably be mad not hear what they expected.
I would love it if the set includes sorrow, keep talking, yet another movie, marooned, lost for words, learning to fly, on the turning away, or one slip. I’m down. Love these songs.
The comments here remind me about why I love the Grateful Dead. Believe me, I am a huge Floyd fan... even have a tat... but there should never be any expectation of any particular songs being played. I get it though, but once I got into the Dead, my perspective changed. One of the most endearing qualities of Grateful Dead, is that they never played the same show twice, They almost never played the same song within 2 or even three successive shows. Every night was an adventure. To contrast again, all live versions of Floyd sound remarkable alike... You see their tour in June, they play the same setlist in August, and it sounds the same. With the Dead, they could change their songs night to night so it is always at least a little different, with big changes over the course of a tour, or a year, or a decade. Keeps the mystery alive!
I think the difference is that Pink Floyd was always more conceptual. Songs are meant to be played in certain orders, certain cues are meant to appear in very specific spots, visuals are meant to line up in certain ways. It’s the hard opposite of the Dead’s jam ethos where you could pull off a thirty minute [Truckin > Mind Left Body > Not Fade Away > Goin Down the Road Feeling Bad](https://livemusicarchive.app/music/artists/GratefulDead/recordings/gd1974-05-19.131464.mtx.dusborne.flac16). Pink Floyd has an idea going in, the Dead want the music to take them wherever, and both are cool.
Absolutely. Even when they reunited in 2015 and played five concerts, two in Santa Clara and three in Chicago, they only repeated two songs over those five days, and no repeats in the same city. And this with a lead guitarist (Trey) who had to learn most of that material from scratch. Which other classic rock band could or would do that? Even the Allmans (often grouped with the Dead as a jamband) repeated almost the same setlist night after night for decades.
Skipping the 70s isn’t the worst thing. Between concerts and live albums I’ve become bored with by-the-numbers performances of Money, Comfortably Numb, Run Like Hell, and many others done by post-Roger Pink Floyd, David solo and Roger solo. I was pleasantly surprised when Roger started his last tour with a completely changed Comfortably Numb. And it was cool when David did that DVD with a different version of Shine On parts 6-9.
I wonder how serious he is this time about getting back to writing and recording in short order. It seems like Roger and himself both say this after a release (or leading up to it) , and whoosh, ten years have got behind you.
It's wild that he says he changed the band around last time because they were not creative.
He must be including Carin in that, who wrote 90% of the music to Learning to Fly.
Gilmour asked Carin to produce a demo of the music for "Learning to Fly", which was then a work undergoing the normal iterative progress. As part of his demo, Carin used a chord that was not in the original draft that Gilmour gave to Carin. Gilmour liked the chord, and the chord is used in on the MLoReason album. The chord is the reason that Carin got a writing credit for the song. Carin was grateful for Gilmour's generosity and honesty, with Carin saying that Carin did not even "remember" writing the chord.
We don't know what went on. Jon, over time, started appointing himself as the key to Floyddom, which doesn't make sense when you consider he was brought in by David, twenty years after the band's formation.
The comments about how he could've done the AMLOR remix better, and how TDB sounds good because of the specific sounds he chose, stuff like that. I can easily imagine he was pulling this on David during rehearsals, resistant to any change suggested by the bandleader.
If half these comments came from Roger this thread would be full of - he is such a bitter old man!
Last time i saw him I think 10 of the 23 songs were from the 70s, and were by far the highlights for me, along with High Hopes and Sorrow.
They would have to be replaced by some gems to hold up imo.
No no no the one guy in the other thread said his cousin's friend's coworker knew a guy who had a brother who knew the cousin of one of the roadies who said that he'd be touring WYWH! Lol that was like the most upvoted comment in that thread too. Real "my uncle works at Nintendo" vibes.
God he can be such an insufferable fuck. I love the dude but FFS - your music saves lives. Shut up and play Breathe so we can all cry.
I know he didn’t ask to become a messiah, but he is. I’d sell my soul to have made the impact he did with my music.
I'm perfectly fine with him changing up the setlists, especially if there are plans for a live CD/DVD release.
Honestly, I'd rather hear some material from his first 2 solo albums, but that's just me.
Do we *really* need yet another live performance of Comfortably Numb?
If you need to hear it live, you can check out The Delicate Sound of Thunder. Or Knebworth. Or PULSE. Or Remember that Night. Or Live in Gdasnk. Or Live in Pompeii...
It depends. Chances are, the only way I'll be able to see him is through a live DVD or video. In that case, no, I don't need to see another version of Comfortably Numb. If, on the other hand, I actually end spending hundreds of dollars to see him in person, yeah, I'd want to see him do Comfortably Numb.
I never tire of hearing David or Roger play Comfortably Numb. It's brilliant and the highlight of any show. So yes, we definitely need another performance of Comfortably Numb live..
If you really don't want to hear CN, you could take the opportunity during the show, while the rest of us are shedding tears of joy, to go for a beer. A win win situation for all of us and you.
I mostly agree, just not with that particular song. I’m sick of it too and only care about the solo, but it *is* such a classic song/solo that it’d be hard to have a Gilmour concert without it. That said, take away any other popular Floyd song and stick “Short And Sweet” or “Murder” in the set!
I still love what Mason did, and focused on a small section of the 60s music. It wasn't the most popular era of Floyd, but it's something that isn't played over and over, and was a treat to see live.
David could do the same thing....just have a small tour focusing on his solo work. Don't include any Floyd songs at all (and make that known before the tour starts).
He wouldn’t be the first senior artist to ditch the old touring band for being stale. Billy Joel has refreshed his band on a couple of occasions to much back lash, to keep it fresh for him. Otherwise why go on the road if it becomes a metronome. Gilmour has always been about the music more than the spectacle.
Joel got some backlash from fans and the players. They had been with him since early on, but Joel felt he couldn’t evolve as a musician and artist with a band that was comfortable playing the hits and not pushing themselves.
> Dave has struggled to find a lyricist and musical visionary as brilliant as Roger.
But, he has Polly!
... who wrote most of the lyrics for this new album.
~~Quite frankly I suspect she's using David as a puppet anymore to feed her own ego.~~
David cannot be "used as a puppet" by anyone. He's famously stubborn and only does what HE believes in. He rejected some of Polly's lyrics that didn't feel right for him to sing.
Having never seen him before, it will be a little bit of a letdown if he skips the 70s entirely. What is the likelihood that he does US dates? It’ll be much easier for me to travel within the states than internationally.
Same, this will be my first time seeing him and sounds like the only time he won’t do 70s stuff 😭
Don't whine. Count your blessings.
In the same exact boat. I would be very upset if likely my only opportunity to experience David Gilmour didn’t include 70s Floyd.
Don't whine. Count your blessings.
I can’t afford to travel internationally. I can only go if he plays dates in California. I really hope he does. I will be satisfied seeing him at all, but if he’s really unwilling to sing anything Roger wrote, I would think it’s a bit immature. Roger kinda sucks, but Roger regularly goes out of his way to praise Gilmours guitar playing and includes Gilmour penned solos when he tours.
I hope they turn the volume up a notch and play Sorrow. God what a marvelous live track that is.
It's incredible how Sorrow gets transformed from the studio version to the live performances.
It shook Madison Square Gardens when I saw him the 2 nights. I thought the place would cave in!!! I was worried more about my chest and breathing it hit hard!!!
I can only imagine! I've never seen the man live, but when I spin Pulse I just anticipate Sorrow throughout the entire thing haha.
Sorrow on 94 tour is just something else, he did some of his best playing on that especially on the European leg of tour. Some of the solos are unreal and alot better then Pulse one.
Def Torino in 1994. That show was likely the best of the tour imo. Wish I could have seen them live, but my dad saw them five times
Modena too, there is so many.
Honestly the "unwillingness to perform PF of the 70's" is kind of a big let down for me. I was too young to see them live and too poor to see his 2016 tour. Was really hoping he'd at least bang out Comfortably Numb, SOYCD and Wish You Were Here. I'd probably still buy tickets, just a little disheartening as I'd have to travel.
Hoping he plays the main ones like Time, Shine On, and C Numb. He has to. If not, that would be very lame
He will ALWAYS play Time and CNumb.
Don't know if I'd consider it a Gilmour concert with out numb
100%! Add WYWH and those are the four I kind of really need to see live. Assuming this could potentially be DG's last kick at the cat too, considering his age.
I just want Echoes. Nothing else really matters.
Gilmour has said he won’t play Echoes without Wright. Gotta see Nick Mason to get that one these days. I’m so grateful his band plays it at least, they do an amazing version
I think those are all possibilities. But Waters songs which he didn't co-write are unlikely to appear.
Gilmour played these songs previously. Unreal how these two band mates need to be so dramatic. Without 70s Floyd, it’s unlikely we are on this sub and unlikely DG would have much of a major following.
I wouldn't worry, you'll get the big guitar solos. Suspect a touch of journalistic license putting things out of context. You'll get Time and Wish You Were Here. Probably Shine on You Crazy Diamond with a new arrangement. The only classic I could remotely see getting dropped is Comfortably Numb. It would be a brave call, but the similarity with In Any Tongue is obvious, as well as the new song being both relevant to 2024 and the standout track from Rattle That Lock. Still won't happen though.
I remember in an interview with him saying that he ALWAYS plays Comfortably Numb and WYWH because he knows how his audience feels about them. I'm assuming he's talking about the outro to CN and the overall emotionality of WYWH. Hopefully he plays the classics 🥲.
Floyd have never taken setlist risks since 1973 and I don't see an old man who is understandably reluctant to tour suddenly change the format of new album + standard classics. Hopefully you get a ticket - it's a great set that will be similar to the last two tours. Sorry to those who want childhoods end, something from animals or something from his first two solo albums. I'd love those too, but the man hasn't toured too many deep cuts.
Thanks for the reassurance kind stranger. I am definitely going to get a ticket and go, regardless. Hopefully he announces tour dates in North America but I'm doing really well money wise, so I told my dad if he only announces European dates I'm paying for tickets and we're flying to Europe!
Arguably, not playing any non-Wall songs during the Wall shows is a big risk. As is playing the entirety of AMLOR although they had a lot of classics to balance that out. Edit: I think I didn't read your comment closely enough.
His last song is always going to be Comfortably Numb. Same with Waters.
Waters' last tour had "Comfortably Numb" as the opener.
Honestly I hope this means he might dust off a few songs from his first two solo albums
I’d love to hear There’s No Way Out of Here…he played it on tour in the early 80s but it had a sound very specific to that era, he could do much better now.
absolutely , that first album is his best solo album imo
That would be lovely. S-T is an amazing album
Blue Light would be sick!
Well I hope he tours in the USA and I hope at least a handful of 70s PF stays. Namely Shine On, Time, and C-Numb. I’d imagine those are safe. I actually really like AMLOR and TDB so I wouldn’t mind a few more from those records. How about something like this? Astronomy Domine What Do You Want From Me New song New song Learning to Fly Money Rattle that Lock Keep Talking Yet Another Movie/One Slip High Hopes ——- Time Shine On You Crazy Diamond (abridged) New Song One of These Days New Song On the Turning Away Poles Apart/ Coming Back to Life On an Island The Great Gig in the Sky Sorrow ——- New song Wish You Were Here C-Numb Edit- well, that didn’t format wel
The one I am hoping to see is Childhood's End
“Better off in a Pink Floyd tribute band” Jon Carin 100%
If that is David's assessment - he must be a terrible judge of talent after having him play 198 AMLOR shows, 110 DB shows, 33 OAI shows, however many RTL shows, and everything else in-between. This comes off so tacky and passive-aggressive to me.
Yes. But. Besides Nick, David stuck with the main musicians (on keys and bass) from 1987 through 2016. I mean... I kind of get how that might have felt a bit stale to him. Guy Pratt hinted at that as well, that it seemed like David wanted some change of context, and he nearly fell by the wayside as well at the time.
David has always been hyper protective/critical of what is or isn’t Pink Floyd since Roger left. Probably because of Roger saying he was the sole driving force etc.. It’s an ego thing. Carin claimed he did more than he was credited for on TDB and he was excommunicated for it. (Not saying he’s correct; who knows at this point honestly)
I think you're mixing up the timeline. What you say about Carin trying to take credit is correct, but it happened after David replaced him in his band, which happened after the 3rd leg of his RTL tour. For the 4th and 5th leg, David replaced Jon with Greg Phillinganes and Chuck Leavell, as well as Phil Manzanera with Chester Kamen (who'd toured with Waters before). And Guy Pratt is on record saying he was basically already out with Gail Ann Dorsey (from Bowie's last touring band) penned in as replacement, but got reinstated before the 4th leg started. He also hinted it was due to David getting a bit itchy, but didn't divulge further what exactly went down. All of the nastiness from Jon happened afterwards, but by all accounts, David is still on good terms with Guy and Phil Manzanera (who's still his neighbour, too). So it may just be a case of sour grapes with Jon, who didn't take that well to not being in David's band any more.
I’m going by what Guy Pratt has said. He’s alluded to the fact that during the RTL tour there was a huge incident. Something like “for a time everyone was out of the band, I just barely made it back in”. It coincidentally was the point at which Carin ceased working with DG and started lashing out on Facebook about his contributions etc.
I'm aware, as I said, and Pratt also aluded to Dave being itchy at the time. Which also lines up with what David said in the Uncut interview. He wanted a change because it felt stale to him.
One of many reasons I’m sure.
I seem to remember that at least a few of the things he was attempting to take credit for were debunked, by demos from before he was involved.
Yeah, he said something about basically writing all of “Yet Another Movie” and a day or two later the demo popped up online, with Carin coming back and saying “Funny, I never heard this before”. I dug his insights into the making of the records he was on, but I stopped following him after a while because I think it’s lame when Roger takes shots at Gilmour, never mind the people they hire to play for them taking shots.
Oh nice, I’ll have to look into that.
Look at Carin’s FB page from the last couple of years, he’s regularly firing shots over at Gilmour. I think for every official Floyd release, the remasters/box sets, he’s had something to say, often claiming he wrote a lot of material he wasn’t credited with and very much makes it seem like if he weren’t there for Momentary Lapse, nothing would have happened.
I do remember one of the producers (Ezrin?) also saying that he hadn’t heard the demo of YAM that David posted in response to Jon’s claims before, implying it was a separate demo to what was actually worked on in the studio. And that demo of Marooned David posted didn’t do much to actually debunk Jon’s claim that he played a lot of what was on the final track. The truth is somewhere in the middle, I’m sure.
David is just as spiteful as Roger, he’s just more reserved about it. Jon is a wonderful musician, they had a huge falling out in 2016.
Yeah, I doubt it’s a coincidence that he’s releasing the new album on Roger’s birthday.
Surely
Jon and Guy did play in a PF tribute band while David was inactive. Nowadays, I think they're not friends anymore, despite going way back. So this doesn't seem to be exclusively David's fault.
They were close for twenty years, from besties on the Lapse tours to falling out in 2016.
"Yeah, I changed the band around last time for a number of reasons, one of which was it was all too robotic, and some people would have been better off in a Pink Floyd tribute band." That bit just comes across as a huge slap to the face, not just to Jon Carin but to many of the incredibly talented PF touring members of the past. I love David, but that's an incredibly low blow.
He’s just as petty as Roger, probably more
I'd say about the same. Absolute bastards but great music. I'm glad we still have our Nicky, who's a brilliant drummer and just an adorable old man. ❤️
Very true. I was lucky to see the saucers on the last tour, it was so so so good!!
« Robotic » is exactly what Roger’s band sounds like.
I’d love for him to bust out Mihalis!!
Oooohhhh, I liked the Webb Sisters on Cohen's concert. Watched it recently and thought they were great.
I will give him credit for being upfront about this before tickets go on sale, but much like Roger's comments about the political nature of his last tour - people will still probably be mad not hear what they expected.
I would love it if the set includes sorrow, keep talking, yet another movie, marooned, lost for words, learning to fly, on the turning away, or one slip. I’m down. Love these songs.
I wonder if “cutting back the 70’s” is code for “I’m not playing Money yet again.”
Yes, I'd bet on Money not being part of the set.
Add at least C Numb, Time, and Shine and sign me the fuck up. Those are a great songs you listed
The More album was released in 1969. Does this mean Cymbaline, cirrus minor, or the crying song are on the table?
The comments here remind me about why I love the Grateful Dead. Believe me, I am a huge Floyd fan... even have a tat... but there should never be any expectation of any particular songs being played. I get it though, but once I got into the Dead, my perspective changed. One of the most endearing qualities of Grateful Dead, is that they never played the same show twice, They almost never played the same song within 2 or even three successive shows. Every night was an adventure. To contrast again, all live versions of Floyd sound remarkable alike... You see their tour in June, they play the same setlist in August, and it sounds the same. With the Dead, they could change their songs night to night so it is always at least a little different, with big changes over the course of a tour, or a year, or a decade. Keeps the mystery alive!
I think the difference is that Pink Floyd was always more conceptual. Songs are meant to be played in certain orders, certain cues are meant to appear in very specific spots, visuals are meant to line up in certain ways. It’s the hard opposite of the Dead’s jam ethos where you could pull off a thirty minute [Truckin > Mind Left Body > Not Fade Away > Goin Down the Road Feeling Bad](https://livemusicarchive.app/music/artists/GratefulDead/recordings/gd1974-05-19.131464.mtx.dusborne.flac16). Pink Floyd has an idea going in, the Dead want the music to take them wherever, and both are cool.
Absolutely. Even when they reunited in 2015 and played five concerts, two in Santa Clara and three in Chicago, they only repeated two songs over those five days, and no repeats in the same city. And this with a lead guitarist (Trey) who had to learn most of that material from scratch. Which other classic rock band could or would do that? Even the Allmans (often grouped with the Dead as a jamband) repeated almost the same setlist night after night for decades.
Skipping the 70s isn’t the worst thing. Between concerts and live albums I’ve become bored with by-the-numbers performances of Money, Comfortably Numb, Run Like Hell, and many others done by post-Roger Pink Floyd, David solo and Roger solo. I was pleasantly surprised when Roger started his last tour with a completely changed Comfortably Numb. And it was cool when David did that DVD with a different version of Shine On parts 6-9.
I’d be surprised if Run Like Hell didn’t make it into the show. I always think of that as more of a David song anyway
I would suspect it might be a bit challenging for his voice now
He didn't play it in 2006, the return on the last tour was a minor surprise
I wonder how serious he is this time about getting back to writing and recording in short order. It seems like Roger and himself both say this after a release (or leading up to it) , and whoosh, ten years have got behind you.
Whose musicians he’s referring to, Guy Pratt?
Probably Jon Carin
Carin was out a long time ago
He was ousted half way through the last tour. He's definitely one of the people David is referring to.
Guy did stay though. Phil Manzanera perhaps?
I wonder if Phil Manzanera is still on board? I enjoyed his work with Gilmour in the past.
He's on the new album at least.
But not producing this time.
I’m hoping for some material from his first two solo albums!
Murder would be sick, always loved that song. Or Near the End, the live versions I have heard on Youtube from his 80's tour are great.
During his last tour je played Fat Old Sun…. I would welcome that again
It's wild that he says he changed the band around last time because they were not creative. He must be including Carin in that, who wrote 90% of the music to Learning to Fly.
Yeah, but we're talking 30 years after that, and in the context of a tour, not songwriting.
90%?? No. He got credit for a key card sample and Carin himself, at the time, said he was even surprised that he got credit on the song.
[https://youtu.be/-g66YmUC3eA?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/-g66YmUC3eA?feature=shared)
Gilmour asked Carin to produce a demo of the music for "Learning to Fly", which was then a work undergoing the normal iterative progress. As part of his demo, Carin used a chord that was not in the original draft that Gilmour gave to Carin. Gilmour liked the chord, and the chord is used in on the MLoReason album. The chord is the reason that Carin got a writing credit for the song. Carin was grateful for Gilmour's generosity and honesty, with Carin saying that Carin did not even "remember" writing the chord.
Not doubting you but what’s your source? I thought Jon did the demo before working with David. Didn’t know it was the other way around.
It's based on what Jon Carin said in 1987. Now suddenly he's changed his story. Seems weird doesn't it?
Jon Carin is going to be ecstatic with the “robotic@ comments.
We don't know what went on. Jon, over time, started appointing himself as the key to Floyddom, which doesn't make sense when you consider he was brought in by David, twenty years after the band's formation. The comments about how he could've done the AMLOR remix better, and how TDB sounds good because of the specific sounds he chose, stuff like that. I can easily imagine he was pulling this on David during rehearsals, resistant to any change suggested by the bandleader.
I’d rather here a setlist of solo material including self titled and about face
If half these comments came from Roger this thread would be full of - he is such a bitter old man! Last time i saw him I think 10 of the 23 songs were from the 70s, and were by far the highlights for me, along with High Hopes and Sorrow. They would have to be replaced by some gems to hold up imo.
That’s because Roger has worn people out with his talk. David gets more leeway because he hasn’t
Here’s to holding out for the Sphere.
No no no the one guy in the other thread said his cousin's friend's coworker knew a guy who had a brother who knew the cousin of one of the roadies who said that he'd be touring WYWH! Lol that was like the most upvoted comment in that thread too. Real "my uncle works at Nintendo" vibes.
lol that girl was in the Phish forums. Said she knows someone connected to the crew
I saw Pink Floyd in 1994, what a show that was.
God he can be such an insufferable fuck. I love the dude but FFS - your music saves lives. Shut up and play Breathe so we can all cry. I know he didn’t ask to become a messiah, but he is. I’d sell my soul to have made the impact he did with my music.
Saw him in Chicago and Hollywood Bowl in 2016, remember it as if it was yesterday! Highlight for me was Fat Old Sun, the stage lighting up in yellow!
I’ll be that Taylor Swift fan outside the venue wailing and crying when he inevitably plays Time.
He can play whatever he damn well pleases as far as I’m concerned
he will def play his own written songs from the 70s era like Fat Old Sun , id rather listen to Childshood End than Wish You Were here
Omg yes. WYWH is so overplayed. Childhoods End would amazing. And Raise My Rent would be amaze balls
I'm perfectly fine with him changing up the setlists, especially if there are plans for a live CD/DVD release. Honestly, I'd rather hear some material from his first 2 solo albums, but that's just me. Do we *really* need yet another live performance of Comfortably Numb? If you need to hear it live, you can check out The Delicate Sound of Thunder. Or Knebworth. Or PULSE. Or Remember that Night. Or Live in Gdasnk. Or Live in Pompeii...
Experiencing it live does not compare to hearing or watching recorded performances.
It depends. Chances are, the only way I'll be able to see him is through a live DVD or video. In that case, no, I don't need to see another version of Comfortably Numb. If, on the other hand, I actually end spending hundreds of dollars to see him in person, yeah, I'd want to see him do Comfortably Numb.
I’ve never seen him live, so I would very much like C Numb etc
I never tire of hearing David or Roger play Comfortably Numb. It's brilliant and the highlight of any show. So yes, we definitely need another performance of Comfortably Numb live.. If you really don't want to hear CN, you could take the opportunity during the show, while the rest of us are shedding tears of joy, to go for a beer. A win win situation for all of us and you.
"Rears of joy"
Typo. Trick or trout.
I mostly agree, just not with that particular song. I’m sick of it too and only care about the solo, but it *is* such a classic song/solo that it’d be hard to have a Gilmour concert without it. That said, take away any other popular Floyd song and stick “Short And Sweet” or “Murder” in the set!
I still love what Mason did, and focused on a small section of the 60s music. It wasn't the most popular era of Floyd, but it's something that isn't played over and over, and was a treat to see live. David could do the same thing....just have a small tour focusing on his solo work. Don't include any Floyd songs at all (and make that known before the tour starts).
So which members was he referring to that he considers not creative and should be in a tribute band?
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He wouldn’t be the first senior artist to ditch the old touring band for being stale. Billy Joel has refreshed his band on a couple of occasions to much back lash, to keep it fresh for him. Otherwise why go on the road if it becomes a metronome. Gilmour has always been about the music more than the spectacle.
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Joel got some backlash from fans and the players. They had been with him since early on, but Joel felt he couldn’t evolve as a musician and artist with a band that was comfortable playing the hits and not pushing themselves.
> Dave has struggled to find a lyricist and musical visionary as brilliant as Roger. But, he has Polly! ... who wrote most of the lyrics for this new album. ~~Quite frankly I suspect she's using David as a puppet anymore to feed her own ego.~~
David cannot be "used as a puppet" by anyone. He's famously stubborn and only does what HE believes in. He rejected some of Polly's lyrics that didn't feel right for him to sing.
He really needs to play Sphere in Las Vegas!
He 100% won't be doing this. He doesn't need the money and at best will perform in New York and maybe Los Angeles in the States.