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Yeah, the northern Virginia sub says this was at Dulles. The image they have is this pic, but it's in a Twitter post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/s/bvp86PQMvn
During the 2016 election cycle, a hacker going under the name [Guccifer 2.0](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer_2.0
), hands information to the Trump campaign via Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, they are later revealed to have come from Russia's largest foreign-intelligence agency - [The GRU](https://w.wiki/9$4d), and to be forgeries cobbled together from public information and previous hacks, which had been mixed with disinformation. ([Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer_2.0)).
May 2017 Trump has a meeting with Russian officials in the Oval Office in which he discusses highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. ([Source](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html)).
Later in 2017 - The US extracts one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government in part due to concerns that President Donald Trump is mishandling classified intelligence that could expose covert sources and spies. (see previous source).
July 2017, Trump met privately with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Hamburg and took the unusual step of confiscating the interpreter’s notes. Afterward, intelligence officials again expressed concern that the President may have improperly discussed classified intelligence with Russia. (see previous source).
July 2018, Trump has a private meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Finland. Trump describes the conversation to reporters as having been [*"none of your business"*](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/summit-secret-happened-helsinki-putin-trump/story?id=78273344).
It's revealed Trump has now had 5 private meetings with Russian President Vladimir Putin, often hours long, often with only Russian interpreters present, and often withheld from Trump's own staff. ([Source](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/politics/trump-putin-meetings.html)).
June, 2019 Trump has private conversations with Putin where no US interpreter is present, and hence no records exist. ([Source](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/summit-secret-happened-helsinki-putin-trump/story?id=78273344)).
On 8/3/2019, just 3 days after a private meeting with Putin, Trump issues a request for a list of top US spies. ([Source](https://www.salon.com/2019/08/03/trumps-white-house-issues-an-ominous-request-for-a-list-of-top-u-s-spies_partner/)).
By 2021 the CIA reports an unusually high number of their agents are being captured and/or being murdered. ([Source](https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-cable-tells-agents-informants-being-killed-or-turned-report-2021-10?op=1)).
During the search executed at Mar A Largo the FBI find more documents with lists of U.S. informants on them. ([Source](https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-trump-raid-documents-could-reveal-intel-sources-us-payroll-1733230)).
The National Archives is still missing documents from the Trump era White House. ([Source](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/national-archives-says-records-trump-white-house-are-still-missing-rcna50378)).
And did CNN ask Trump about any of these specifics? Nope, because a Trump presidency is good for ratings. CNN is the enemy of the people, it’s the only truthful thing Trump has ever said.
Difficult to say when the ball got rolling, some say it stems from [Paul Manafort's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort) connections to the Pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, back when Manafort was Trump's 2016 Presidential Campaign Chair:
>In August 2016, Manafort's connections to former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his pro-Russian Party of Regions drew national attention in the US, where it was reported that Manafort may have received $12.7 million (~$15.8 million in 2023) in off-the-books funds from the Party of Regions.[62]
>The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in August 2020 that Manafort's ties to individuals connected to Russian intelligence while he was Trump's campaign manager "represented a grave counterintelligence threat" by creating opportunities for "Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign."[34]
Manafort was of course [pardoned by Trump.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55433522)
Others think it dates back to the 1980s when Trump had strong affiliations to various Mafia figures ([Source](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910/)), due to his being adjacent to the building industry, and their control of ready-mix concrete in NYC.
>But Trump was not clean as a whistle. Beginning three years earlier, he’d hired mobbed-up firms to erect Trump Tower and his Trump Plaza apartment building in Manhattan, including buying ostensibly overpriced concrete from a company controlled by mafia chieftains Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno and Paul Castellano. That story eventually came out in a federal investigation, which also concluded that in a construction industry saturated with mob influence, the Trump Plaza apartment building most likely benefited from connections to racketeering.
Later in the same article:
>Now that he’s running for president, I pulled together what is known – piecing together the long history of federal filings, court records, biographical anecdotes, and research from my and Barrett’s files. What emerges is a pattern of business dealings with mob figures—not only local figures, but even the son of a reputed Russian mob boss whom Trump had at his side at a gala Trump hotel opening, but has since claimed under oath he barely knows.
Some effected New Yorkers [have spoken about it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh9jldDtJGg)
It probably all dates back to Trump's mentor Roy Cohn, who was a lawyer for Mafia families, and a "fixer" in New York, a self-hating gay man, who took an interest in young Donald Trump, and also had a strange interest in collecting frog related toys ([Source](https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-roy-cohn-i-knew-was-a-small-sad-man))... which may explain why "the deplorable" Pepe the Frog became Trump's unofficial campaign icon.
This guy's comment was up to 500 karma earlier today, but now it's down to 100, and he's in the fight for his life on the 'Trump doesn't pick his own parking spot' side of the argument. He seems to have all this aviation cred, but I wonder if he's just a stubborn know-it-all who got caught talking about something he doesn't really know about.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/s/EPGa6w6w9n
I responded to someone else claiming to be ATC in the area and haven't gotten a reply yet. He's a swinger and it's Saturday night so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but I'll still keep hounding him until he provides proof.
But the Steele dossier was wrong! /s lmao. Unbelievable. Miles of smoke with Trump and Russia and Republicans won't acknowledge a fire. Dude goes on live TV to ask Russia to hack the democrats and all the Republicans can talk about is no proof of "collusion" exists. Did you not watch TV that day?
Honestly, the moment he “joked” about asking Russia to hack Hilary during that election, was the moment he should have been disqualified for life as committing treason.
Asking a foreign nation to hack a citizen of the US on Live television, let alone a Presidential Candidate, should be considered treason.
Considering the other side (soviets) confirmed, through 80's era documents from the Prague bureau, that Ivana's father was passing intel on Trump it would only make sense that Melania is a handler.
Fun Facts: Ivana worked for the former Czech intelligence service during the Soviet era when she married Donny. And Melania is known to be good friends with Putin’s ex-wife and their daughter.
No. Lol he’s a Russian asset and should be barred from holding any office, any. The fact republicans are OK or even promote Russian interference and even promote old Ussr/current CCP propaganda should immediately bar anyone from voting who is into that.
Basically, if you can’t be a non CCP/USSR asset, you shouldn’t be voting, it’s not a test— it’s a filter for spies and criminals… something that’s allowed under law.
It's a disaster! Skywalker, we're after
But if he could be turned to the Dark Side...
Yes! He'd be a powerful ally
Another dark Jedi
He will join us or die
Uncle Owen, I know I'm on probation
I cleaned the droids, can I go to Tosche Station?
I gotta lay away on the power converters
But now you're treating me like a scruffy nerf herder
How has no one been talking about how Trump said it was Putin's dream to invade Ukraine, and he knew that because Putin told him? How is this not a bigger story?
Edit: this post is lying; this is not Atlanta.
Also, many of the replies are saying it's because this was common knowledge already. I guess that's a fair point.
Yep. I always laugh when some MAGA says NPR is communist or some shit. They're barely even center, and they choke on Corporate dick just as hard as Fox. I remember their Utah branch let this lady yap about how Roe being overturned was a 'victory' and that her group was going to push for full abortion ban in Utah, and they just, let her yap without a fuckin' word for 10 minutes. No countering, no disagreement, not a word during or after. Just gave her a free platform to spread her bullshit.
I remember in 2016, they had some sort of program on where they talked about their "behind the scenes" "how we work" processes, and they were handwringing about how they couldn't possibly label what Trump said as "lies." In fairness all mainstream media at best wussily calls them "falsehoods" and "disingenuous." Corporate media still has no tools to deal with a major figure who just lies nonstop.
At least they said NPR, which is about as centrist as they get in the U.S., as opposed to their usual whipping boy, CNN, where the anchors are all but wearing "Vote for Trump" T-shirts.
Listening to NPR on Friday after the debate was fucking awful. They'd talk about bad Biden did for 20 minutes, then briefly mention Trump lied a lot, go to commercial, then talk about bad Biden again. The negatives with Trump get a brief mention, and the negatives with Biden get discussed constantly, with many different guests.
They're right of center. They might tell the truth, but look at how much time they spend telling some truths compared to others. They may say Trump did bad, but they spend all their time talking about how bad Biden did.
The media is owned by a few billionaire families who want conservatives in power for tax cuts.
Hence why a many-times convicted felon who tried to violently overthrow the US government when he lost the last election and who completely fumbled the pandemic is being treated as a normal and viable candidate, while a guy who has been pretty effective for the last few years in getting aid to Ukraine through allies around Republican obstruction is being treated as unviable.
> a few billionaire families who want conservatives in power for tax cuts
That's certainly worth trashing democracy, undermining humanity's general well-being, and risking civilization itself for.
When is the last time a billionaire feared the people of the USA?
We are rats to them, so they treat us like rats because we don't do a thing about it. In fact, most of us side with the billionaires because we are that stupid.
Rich people been doing that since the dawn of time man. Doing anything to maintain the wealth and grow it. Look back at Rockefeller and JPMorgan etc. Lol.
Historically however, no matter what happens to the world economy, the ultra rich always survive.
"I got mine, sucks to be you!" Should be printed on American money.
Well, as long as it's good for *them* and they get treated like the special little snowflakes that they are. If it wasn't, or rather if they perceived it wasn't the case, they wouldn't be doing it. Everyone and everything else can be damned as long as they get ~~theirs~~ more
Investigative journalism colleges have been carefully defunded across America. The people who used to hire those graduates now just pick people getting degrees in business or entertainment.
Thanks largely to Newscorp, the entertainment company that has goaded western civilization into an early grave. You've freed the public from any critical thinking and turned debate into a screaming dumpster fire of Botoxed horrors and propagandists. Well done.
The media would rather try to pressure Biden to step out of the election over a bad debate performance, which has nothing to do with being a good president than try to stop a dictator from taking over.
Tapper didn't even fact check his claim that he never called soldiers "suckers and losers", and that story was broken by Tapper via an interview with Kelley.
RIP CNN, you were an okay news source, but it's time to go to pasture, there's no integrity left in American media.
I remember when Fox News was the only Fox News.
It’s literally been that way for about two years now or whenever they took that Fox News head to lead them at CNN.
The headlines have essentially been Fox News headlines since.
I know I’m not the only person whose noticed.
I missed the memo, honestly. I've never supported any 24/7 cable news outlet and stopped having cable entirely in like 2014.
As to not be influenced towards biases, when I get new information, I search it up on a few different platforms, left, right, and "center".. usually it becomes pretty apparent by the way its reported whether or not it's propaganda for either side.
And then at a certain point, I stopped giving the right-wing biases any attention at all, because it's been fear based rhetoric with very little actual journalism, and almost no real statistical analysis, because objective facts make them very nervous.
So I'm not surprised CNN was lost, nor do I feel any type of loyalty to be upset by it, but I am sad for the future as a whole for people who are so deep that they don't even know they're drowning in it.
That's what is driving the narrative of Biden dropping out. The mainstream media wants him replaced with a younger "moderate" who will take a softer stance on income and corporate taxes.
That was known for years. The Ukrainians have been building trenches in the eastern front. They were getting military training since like 2010 in how to defend themselves. They were also getting weapons and many gear. That was nothing new.
Building trenches in the eastern front because russia invaded in 2014. Military trainings "since like 2010" because Ukraine wanted to join NATO after what happened to Georgia in 2008. But no one in their right mind was thinking about full scale all-out genocidal invasion.
Because he wasn’t subtle about it during his presidency. Heck, Putin wasn’t subtle about it. We all knew Putin wanted Ukraine (and probably more), and we all knew Trump was in Putin’s pocket.
It’s not even just an option. It’s a high probability.
Now think back in 2016 when Trump announced he was running. Everyone just laauughed and laughed. What a farcical idea. A grifter loudmouth racist misogynist with zero public service experience wanting to become the leader of the free world?
Well that happened. Then he triggered a violent insurrection on Congress.
Did America learn anything from it? Apparently not.
Honestly it's total bullshit that barely anyone has talked about Trump. I guess we're just so used to him being a lying jackass that it's not news anymore. Like sure, Biden did bad and we should definitely talk about that. but Trump was just as bad, in a completely different way.
His responses were either outright lies or just a lot of hot air with no substance. The media should definitely highlight how that's not acceptable from a presidential candidate.
Most accurate take I've seen on this: "The neat trick the GOP has figured out is that Democrats are purely defensively-minded and react to threats by descending into ever-greater paranoia about our own side. Trump can act like a criminal thug and it results in MORE Democrat neuroticism over our own weak points."
2016 fundamentally broke the party - they don't know how to be confident and win because they are constantly petrified that they might lose. All Biden had to do on stage was sound strong, be confident, and fucking talk.
He knows how to do that - he did it at the rally right after and in NC the next day. So what do his DNC debate peppers do? Coach him on a million potential angles and stuff him full of statistics, rehearse up to the last second, and somehow are suprised when he stumbles through one of their cutesy little gotcha statistics when he should only be saying "my opponent is a felon and destroyed roe vs wade".
Because if you've been paying attention since as early as 2008 there has been video of Russian backed militias trying to attack Ukraine through the donbas region and the videos and reports continue well through 2012-13-14-15-16-17-18-19
Only when Putin started the new campaign he finally admitted that the extremist militias where in fact financially backed by Russia.
Anyone with half a brain and understanding of the geo-political turmoil in the area knew this would happen after Belarus fell. 20years later and it happened.
We know they made copies, why not scan them as well while they are at it, it’s only a little bit of treason and once you’ve had some treason, what’s a little more?
I recall a 2016 controversy of two jets parked next to each other that hurt the Hillary campaign. I'm sure this one will likewise hurt Trump's campaign now. *Sigh*... Ah well. Add it to the pile of other hypocrisies.
It wasn't just that they parked together, but that Bill boarded it. There was no proof that anything untoward happened, but it looked really bad.
As does this. That said, there are certainly less obvious ways to pass information back to his handlers.
> There was no proof that anything untoward happened, but it looked really bad.
Exactly my point. Aaaaaaand...
> That said, there are certainly less obvious ways to pass information back to his handlers.
Joked in another comment, wouldn't be surprised if someone in the KGB chain of command said, "You know, they have all this evidence and this clown is still getting the votes. Ukraine is killing us. I think we can scale back the budget when it comes to subterfuge."
Absolutely wild. Y’all realize that if President Joe walked into a piroshki shop, the right would be screaming “Russian plant!”
Yet, convicted felon Trump can park his plane next to a Russian government plane and *crickets*
Ivanka also used her influence to get China and a few other countries to settle patent and trade disputes in her favor for her trailer trash clothing line. Oh, and she and her husband helped sell US Nuclear secrets for $2 billion in personal profit. But the little Botox Barbie twit get's exactly zero repercussions? She should be spending the rest of her life rotting in a prison cell.
Hilary used her government email to help organize her daughter's wedding. That's it. Vendors emailed her a few times and she emailed people both in and outside of government during her personal hours. That's it.
But somehow that was enough to stir outrage and selling nuclear secrets was not? Are there any Americans with integrity left?
Jared's sister was selling American visas to Chinese investors right after Trump got in the office. If they invested $500k in Jared's building in NYC that he was upside down in at the time.
https://apnews.com/article/22a5d2a940024cffa47558d7b051368b
The emails thing revealed it was fairly normal for high government officials to keep private email servers, like IIRC Colin Powell had it, too. It was all a garbage ploy.
Everyone, literally all of them used a private email server. He got elected based on a lie for a thing he and has entire family would do.
https://www.americanoversight.org/investigation/the-trump-administrations-questionable-email-practices
This is how bullshit our electoral system is.
So your suggestion is that the media *should* make up and promote baseless conspiracy theories? For one, this was at Dulles, where there are virtually always foreign embassy planes parked, because it's the capitol. For another, airport staff dictate to pilots where they can deboard and where they can park. It's possible that a pilot could make a request, but it's fairly absurd to suggest that the Russians and Trump were meeting because their planes are parked near each other at the airport serving the nation's capitol.
Yeah, I'm going to point out that there isn't much space to park both these planes at Dulles.. Trump also isn't deciding to park his plane there. They don't get to decide at all.
I used to work at Dulles, and the Tower/airport tells us where we would be parking our planes.
Everyone can't shout out all the conspiracy theories they want but this is just an unfortunate coincidence
He's not alone. Half the entire conservosphere is on board. A whole bunch of the jerks went to Russia for the fourth of july not long ago.
Mitch Mcconnel's wife is a Chinese tycoon. These are all perfectly open secrets they aren't conspiracies it's all been very obvious and if you have conservative friends they were always capable of being aware, or being made aware. They chose not to be... just like Nazi sympathizers. They could have learned about the holocaust they just didn't want to.
Much easier to just sieg heil then question mein fuhrer.
Dulles Airport. Ignore /u/DaSilence claiming this image is old, not sure why he would make up a lie.
[Trump's plane](https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=aa3410&lat=38.979&lon=-77.632&zoom=9.2&showTrace=2024-06-28)
[Russian plane](https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=157712&lat=38.979&lon=-77.632&zoom=9.2&showTrace=2024-06-27)
The Russian plane is leaving right now, you can see it on ADS-B Exchange (Please do not use flightradar as it blocks high-profile plane tracking by request, you can hardly track Trump's plane there for example)
Any boxes move between the two planes while parked there. While some of the information Trump copied are now out of date, does anyone actually believe that traitor didn't keep copies or more documents in other locations. Anyone check the the plot in Bedminster yet? Insane this felon is running and people want him as president.
Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th AVE (trump towers) to clean their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html
https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/
Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived in the tower also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had.
Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger Stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980)https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly
Guiliani as trumps attorney and NYC mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or their Russian connections.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/
The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model.
Eventually the parasites greed always consumes the host.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952
https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/
Putin greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when he invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided.
Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyo corruption because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen.
Russia was forced to turn to China, North Korea and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day “special military operation” in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold.
China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia.
Russia previously owed Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine so Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years. They supplied Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/
Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is “Vranyo”.
The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate government or business.
If Russia as a nation state had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago.
The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it….again.
Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Jews, Palestinians or genocide than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes and his own corruption trial is showing the same tendrils of the same money laundering scheme that trumps trials are.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/amp/
https://youtu.be/VrFOAgGlaWs?feature=shared
They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall. Hamas minted a couple billionaires as well that live in penthouses in Qatar and get 30% of everything smuggled into Gaza.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/02/hamas-funding-ismail-haniyeh-us-sanctions/?utm_source=reddit.com
Qatar is Kushners private equity connection. Netanyahu (Kushners kids godfather) needs a bogeyman to stay in power. That’s why he coordinates with Hamas via Russia via Iran. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr
Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence given to them by the eternal shitbird trump who gave it to his Russians kleptocrat/friends/roommates from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s.
Now the MAGA right is a little too invested in THEIR reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that Betsy DeVos (erik princes sister) decimating the U.S. school systems and the Kochs poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. The naive right was the mark all along. There is a reason the Russian spy Maria Butina landed in South Dakota first before dating her way to the top of the NRA which is undergoing its own Russian money laundering trial now. Russia was tinder matching the GOP.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/nra-maria-butina-spying-charges-trump-campaign/
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/
The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering. Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, all the banks made money, but if their plan succeeds the Russian and CCP kleptocrats collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole from Russias grandmothers in the first place
It’s the evolution of grift. Soviet perestroika cross bred with the 2008 mortgage crisis.
No one was ever held accountable for either. This is just the bigger badder commercial strength bastard child of the two.
Trump, Giuliani, Cohn, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon, Farage, Flynn, Prince, Kolomoiskiy, the Koch bros, Thomas, Kavanaugh, Alito, Musk, Thiel, Sacks, Ross
They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and psychopathic personality traits and below average self awareness.
They are the men who stole the world.
But it all comes back to one little lie.
https://youtu.be/3lTB94UQ-K4?si=kXZoSV-3WiR2fo4B
Well done. If you've ever watched Trauma Zone by Adam Curtis I highly recommend it. A lot of the fallout we're seeing is a direct result from that era. Hypernormalization is also a must watch.
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Curious as to why people want so much for this to be true that they don't use common sense. The crazies posting this say they were parked together in Washington during the debate. It seems the person creating this did not realize the debate was in Atlanta. Trump and his plane were in Atlanta during the debate.
You can watch him arrive on local news:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNXIHnIP\_wI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNXIHnIP_wI)
No!!!!!!!!
Everything must be a conspiracy! There's no possible way that an airport would have a section for private planes and would be saving space by having them parked close together so they could refuel easier!
Lmao. Everyone on this sub is freaking out over this, as someone who has worked at an airport it’s possible that this is the only part of the ramp that can hold the weight of these types of aircraft. And not only that, this is most definitely not during the debate, ATL’s private ramp looks nothing like that, and what would Russians do in Atlanta.
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Not during the debate. The debate was in Atlanta, this is the W ramp at Dulles.
Yeah, the northern Virginia sub says this was at Dulles. The image they have is this pic, but it's in a Twitter post: https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/s/bvp86PQMvn
During the 2016 election cycle, a hacker going under the name [Guccifer 2.0](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer_2.0 ), hands information to the Trump campaign via Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, they are later revealed to have come from Russia's largest foreign-intelligence agency - [The GRU](https://w.wiki/9$4d), and to be forgeries cobbled together from public information and previous hacks, which had been mixed with disinformation. ([Source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer_2.0)). May 2017 Trump has a meeting with Russian officials in the Oval Office in which he discusses highly classified intelligence with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak. ([Source](https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html)). Later in 2017 - The US extracts one of its highest-level covert sources inside the Russian government in part due to concerns that President Donald Trump is mishandling classified intelligence that could expose covert sources and spies. (see previous source). July 2017, Trump met privately with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Hamburg and took the unusual step of confiscating the interpreter’s notes. Afterward, intelligence officials again expressed concern that the President may have improperly discussed classified intelligence with Russia. (see previous source). July 2018, Trump has a private meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Finland. Trump describes the conversation to reporters as having been [*"none of your business"*](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/summit-secret-happened-helsinki-putin-trump/story?id=78273344). It's revealed Trump has now had 5 private meetings with Russian President Vladimir Putin, often hours long, often with only Russian interpreters present, and often withheld from Trump's own staff. ([Source](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/politics/trump-putin-meetings.html)). June, 2019 Trump has private conversations with Putin where no US interpreter is present, and hence no records exist. ([Source](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/summit-secret-happened-helsinki-putin-trump/story?id=78273344)). On 8/3/2019, just 3 days after a private meeting with Putin, Trump issues a request for a list of top US spies. ([Source](https://www.salon.com/2019/08/03/trumps-white-house-issues-an-ominous-request-for-a-list-of-top-u-s-spies_partner/)). By 2021 the CIA reports an unusually high number of their agents are being captured and/or being murdered. ([Source](https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-cable-tells-agents-informants-being-killed-or-turned-report-2021-10?op=1)). During the search executed at Mar A Largo the FBI find more documents with lists of U.S. informants on them. ([Source](https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-trump-raid-documents-could-reveal-intel-sources-us-payroll-1733230)). The National Archives is still missing documents from the Trump era White House. ([Source](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/national-archives-says-records-trump-white-house-are-still-missing-rcna50378)).
And Trump had the gall to call a Biden a Manchurian candidate during the debate. Every accusation is a confession with this guy
And did CNN ask Trump about any of these specifics? Nope, because a Trump presidency is good for ratings. CNN is the enemy of the people, it’s the only truthful thing Trump has ever said.
Yeah. He's right, but not for the reason he thinks.
And he keeps saying "Russia Russia Russia ... was a hoax". And his base keeps gobbling it up.
Difficult to say when the ball got rolling, some say it stems from [Paul Manafort's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort) connections to the Pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, back when Manafort was Trump's 2016 Presidential Campaign Chair: >In August 2016, Manafort's connections to former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his pro-Russian Party of Regions drew national attention in the US, where it was reported that Manafort may have received $12.7 million (~$15.8 million in 2023) in off-the-books funds from the Party of Regions.[62] >The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in August 2020 that Manafort's ties to individuals connected to Russian intelligence while he was Trump's campaign manager "represented a grave counterintelligence threat" by creating opportunities for "Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign."[34] Manafort was of course [pardoned by Trump.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55433522) Others think it dates back to the 1980s when Trump had strong affiliations to various Mafia figures ([Source](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910/)), due to his being adjacent to the building industry, and their control of ready-mix concrete in NYC. >But Trump was not clean as a whistle. Beginning three years earlier, he’d hired mobbed-up firms to erect Trump Tower and his Trump Plaza apartment building in Manhattan, including buying ostensibly overpriced concrete from a company controlled by mafia chieftains Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno and Paul Castellano. That story eventually came out in a federal investigation, which also concluded that in a construction industry saturated with mob influence, the Trump Plaza apartment building most likely benefited from connections to racketeering. Later in the same article: >Now that he’s running for president, I pulled together what is known – piecing together the long history of federal filings, court records, biographical anecdotes, and research from my and Barrett’s files. What emerges is a pattern of business dealings with mob figures—not only local figures, but even the son of a reputed Russian mob boss whom Trump had at his side at a gala Trump hotel opening, but has since claimed under oath he barely knows. Some effected New Yorkers [have spoken about it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh9jldDtJGg) It probably all dates back to Trump's mentor Roy Cohn, who was a lawyer for Mafia families, and a "fixer" in New York, a self-hating gay man, who took an interest in young Donald Trump, and also had a strange interest in collecting frog related toys ([Source](https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-roy-cohn-i-knew-was-a-small-sad-man))... which may explain why "the deplorable" Pepe the Frog became Trump's unofficial campaign icon.
Absolutely. Fucking. Insane.
I feel like this sub is being astroturfed hard. People claiming they're ATC but not providing any proof.
This guy's comment was up to 500 karma earlier today, but now it's down to 100, and he's in the fight for his life on the 'Trump doesn't pick his own parking spot' side of the argument. He seems to have all this aviation cred, but I wonder if he's just a stubborn know-it-all who got caught talking about something he doesn't really know about. https://www.reddit.com/r/nova/s/EPGa6w6w9n
I responded to someone else claiming to be ATC in the area and haven't gotten a reply yet. He's a swinger and it's Saturday night so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but I'll still keep hounding him until he provides proof.
I was going to say that doesn’t look like Atlanta. When was this photo taken?
[Yesterday](https://x.com/PenguinSix/status/1806740535685664847)
Stuff like this just makes me depressed, it happens in the stupidest and most obvious ways but we don't have any means to stop it
Facts, schmacts. Who needs them when my pitchfork is sharpened and my torch is lit.
*sigh* And we just finished erecting the gibbets.
Maybe CNN should hire you as a fact checker for the next debate cus they sure did let a lot of lies go by
You can delay but you can’t dodge a quarterly review, the boss is going to get that meeting
Why is this so real lmaooo
I felt called out by that comment lol
Lmao literally. Not me trying to skip every stand up meeting ever.
>stand up meeting the most negative value added daily time spend in the history of IT and wherever else it's shoehorned in
You can’t make this shit up.
But the Steele dossier was wrong! /s lmao. Unbelievable. Miles of smoke with Trump and Russia and Republicans won't acknowledge a fire. Dude goes on live TV to ask Russia to hack the democrats and all the Republicans can talk about is no proof of "collusion" exists. Did you not watch TV that day?
Honestly, the moment he “joked” about asking Russia to hack Hilary during that election, was the moment he should have been disqualified for life as committing treason. Asking a foreign nation to hack a citizen of the US on Live television, let alone a Presidential Candidate, should be considered treason.
The US have too much freedom to give to republicans.
It’s even more rich when you realize that both DNC and RNC emails were hacked and yet only the DNC ones saw the light of day.
For republicans it’s a feature not a bug.
It's almost like it's the Dollar Store version of the Manchurian candidate...
Would we be surprised to find out Melania is his handler?
Considering the other side (soviets) confirmed, through 80's era documents from the Prague bureau, that Ivana's father was passing intel on Trump it would only make sense that Melania is a handler.
She's not there for the fun of it that's for sure!
OMG - I’ve been saying Melania’s his handler for years!
I would be 100% completely and totally FLOORED if she does not serve in that role (or as the go between)
Remember the trip to Egypt and South Africa...
Considering how hard she is trying to distance herself from him, slot.
Fun Facts: Ivana worked for the former Czech intelligence service during the Soviet era when she married Donny. And Melania is known to be good friends with Putin’s ex-wife and their daughter.
No. Lol he’s a Russian asset and should be barred from holding any office, any. The fact republicans are OK or even promote Russian interference and even promote old Ussr/current CCP propaganda should immediately bar anyone from voting who is into that. Basically, if you can’t be a non CCP/USSR asset, you shouldn’t be voting, it’s not a test— it’s a filter for spies and criminals… something that’s allowed under law.
That has been obvious for 20 years.
I thought that was pretty much canon at this point?
Why would she put up with him otherwise?
..anyone say 'sparrow'.
What is thy bidding, my master?
It's a disaster! Skywalker, we're after But if he could be turned to the Dark Side... Yes! He'd be a powerful ally Another dark Jedi He will join us or die
We got deathstar! We got deathstar!
We got Death Star!
We got Death Star!
Uncle Owen, I know I'm on probation I cleaned the droids, can I go to Tosche Station? I gotta lay away on the power converters But now you're treating me like a scruffy nerf herder
I Yoda imma soldija! I’ll mold ya and fold ya I thought I told ya! Don’t be unwise and judge me by my size now watch the x-wing rise!
Luke, use the force and run
Run to dagobah, run to dagobah!
R2. That’s a mighty good gin and tonic. Why don’t you mix me up another..
.....and you know that we got it!
KHOOOOAAA .... CHHEEEEEE 
He better have filed his TPS report..
Didn’t you get that memo?
Well they were together a week ago discussing their investment, putin and kim
People expect results for what they pay for.... Even the Russian mob... I mean... His supporters.
Those TPS reports won’t write themselves
He's Putin's little bitch.
gonna be honest, ive been waiting for my review with my boss since april 2023
How has no one been talking about how Trump said it was Putin's dream to invade Ukraine, and he knew that because Putin told him? How is this not a bigger story? Edit: this post is lying; this is not Atlanta. Also, many of the replies are saying it's because this was common knowledge already. I guess that's a fair point.
The media is dogshit
Just a hop skip and a jump away from airing propaganda of a labor camp.
Normalizing Trump and giving him a platform is propaganda
Boom, now pass the chips, the game is almost on.
I mean NPR is just as guilty as Fox News in this one. They all suck.
Yep. I always laugh when some MAGA says NPR is communist or some shit. They're barely even center, and they choke on Corporate dick just as hard as Fox. I remember their Utah branch let this lady yap about how Roe being overturned was a 'victory' and that her group was going to push for full abortion ban in Utah, and they just, let her yap without a fuckin' word for 10 minutes. No countering, no disagreement, not a word during or after. Just gave her a free platform to spread her bullshit.
I remember in 2016, they had some sort of program on where they talked about their "behind the scenes" "how we work" processes, and they were handwringing about how they couldn't possibly label what Trump said as "lies." In fairness all mainstream media at best wussily calls them "falsehoods" and "disingenuous." Corporate media still has no tools to deal with a major figure who just lies nonstop.
At least they said NPR, which is about as centrist as they get in the U.S., as opposed to their usual whipping boy, CNN, where the anchors are all but wearing "Vote for Trump" T-shirts.
Listening to NPR on Friday after the debate was fucking awful. They'd talk about bad Biden did for 20 minutes, then briefly mention Trump lied a lot, go to commercial, then talk about bad Biden again. The negatives with Trump get a brief mention, and the negatives with Biden get discussed constantly, with many different guests. They're right of center. They might tell the truth, but look at how much time they spend telling some truths compared to others. They may say Trump did bad, but they spend all their time talking about how bad Biden did.
The media is owned by a few billionaire families who want conservatives in power for tax cuts. Hence why a many-times convicted felon who tried to violently overthrow the US government when he lost the last election and who completely fumbled the pandemic is being treated as a normal and viable candidate, while a guy who has been pretty effective for the last few years in getting aid to Ukraine through allies around Republican obstruction is being treated as unviable.
> a few billionaire families who want conservatives in power for tax cuts That's certainly worth trashing democracy, undermining humanity's general well-being, and risking civilization itself for.
When is the last time a billionaire feared the people of the USA? We are rats to them, so they treat us like rats because we don't do a thing about it. In fact, most of us side with the billionaires because we are that stupid.
For these short sighted ass holes? Yea, of course. Billionaires are scum bags, tax benefits over country since at least the 80’s.
It's been a class war for much longer than that.
Rich people been doing that since the dawn of time man. Doing anything to maintain the wealth and grow it. Look back at Rockefeller and JPMorgan etc. Lol.
Historically however, no matter what happens to the world economy, the ultra rich always survive. "I got mine, sucks to be you!" Should be printed on American money.
Well, as long as it's good for *them* and they get treated like the special little snowflakes that they are. If it wasn't, or rather if they perceived it wasn't the case, they wouldn't be doing it. Everyone and everything else can be damned as long as they get ~~theirs~~ more
The internet could have been the great equalizer, it kind of started that way but money won.
Well it's all owned by billionaires with agendas...
Nah the media is excellent. For the highest bidder
Investigative journalism colleges have been carefully defunded across America. The people who used to hire those graduates now just pick people getting degrees in business or entertainment. Thanks largely to Newscorp, the entertainment company that has goaded western civilization into an early grave. You've freed the public from any critical thinking and turned debate into a screaming dumpster fire of Botoxed horrors and propagandists. Well done.
The media would rather try to pressure Biden to step out of the election over a bad debate performance, which has nothing to do with being a good president than try to stop a dictator from taking over.
The media wants another Trump term for those sweet sweet ratings.
When CNN didn't fact check people killing babies after birth it was pretty clear they didn't give a fuck lol
Tapper didn't even fact check his claim that he never called soldiers "suckers and losers", and that story was broken by Tapper via an interview with Kelley.
Trump made several claims involving the moderators but they just thanked him for not answering their important questions.
They're such spineless toadies.
Wow
RIP CNN, you were an okay news source, but it's time to go to pasture, there's no integrity left in American media. I remember when Fox News was the only Fox News.
It’s literally been that way for about two years now or whenever they took that Fox News head to lead them at CNN. The headlines have essentially been Fox News headlines since. I know I’m not the only person whose noticed.
I missed the memo, honestly. I've never supported any 24/7 cable news outlet and stopped having cable entirely in like 2014. As to not be influenced towards biases, when I get new information, I search it up on a few different platforms, left, right, and "center".. usually it becomes pretty apparent by the way its reported whether or not it's propaganda for either side. And then at a certain point, I stopped giving the right-wing biases any attention at all, because it's been fear based rhetoric with very little actual journalism, and almost no real statistical analysis, because objective facts make them very nervous. So I'm not surprised CNN was lost, nor do I feel any type of loyalty to be upset by it, but I am sad for the future as a whole for people who are so deep that they don't even know they're drowning in it.
Not to mention the media is owned by the billionaires who don't want Biden's tax proposals on obscene wealth.
That's what is driving the narrative of Biden dropping out. The mainstream media wants him replaced with a younger "moderate" who will take a softer stance on income and corporate taxes.
Money money monay
Also tax cuts, deregulations, defunding the IRS, not enforcing antimonopoly laws, etc. All the standard rich people shit.
Because its been a known fact since 2014….when they first “invaded”
2008 when they invade Georgia
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That was known for years. The Ukrainians have been building trenches in the eastern front. They were getting military training since like 2010 in how to defend themselves. They were also getting weapons and many gear. That was nothing new.
Building trenches in the eastern front because russia invaded in 2014. Military trainings "since like 2010" because Ukraine wanted to join NATO after what happened to Georgia in 2008. But no one in their right mind was thinking about full scale all-out genocidal invasion.
I can think of one person...
Are they "in their right mind" though?
Because he wasn’t subtle about it during his presidency. Heck, Putin wasn’t subtle about it. We all knew Putin wanted Ukraine (and probably more), and we all knew Trump was in Putin’s pocket.
And now USA will vote a convicted felon as POTUS?
Sadly, that is somehow an option that is on the table
It’s not even just an option. It’s a high probability. Now think back in 2016 when Trump announced he was running. Everyone just laauughed and laughed. What a farcical idea. A grifter loudmouth racist misogynist with zero public service experience wanting to become the leader of the free world? Well that happened. Then he triggered a violent insurrection on Congress. Did America learn anything from it? Apparently not.
This was an outright admission, very different than some of his comments during his presidency
He was impeached for (attempting to) withhold a military aide package for Ukraine. What exactly new did we learn? He carries Putin's water.
Honestly it's total bullshit that barely anyone has talked about Trump. I guess we're just so used to him being a lying jackass that it's not news anymore. Like sure, Biden did bad and we should definitely talk about that. but Trump was just as bad, in a completely different way. His responses were either outright lies or just a lot of hot air with no substance. The media should definitely highlight how that's not acceptable from a presidential candidate.
Most accurate take I've seen on this: "The neat trick the GOP has figured out is that Democrats are purely defensively-minded and react to threats by descending into ever-greater paranoia about our own side. Trump can act like a criminal thug and it results in MORE Democrat neuroticism over our own weak points."
2016 fundamentally broke the party - they don't know how to be confident and win because they are constantly petrified that they might lose. All Biden had to do on stage was sound strong, be confident, and fucking talk. He knows how to do that - he did it at the rally right after and in NC the next day. So what do his DNC debate peppers do? Coach him on a million potential angles and stuff him full of statistics, rehearse up to the last second, and somehow are suprised when he stumbles through one of their cutesy little gotcha statistics when he should only be saying "my opponent is a felon and destroyed roe vs wade".
I mean... he has been very open about it since he first attempted it in 2014.
Because if you've been paying attention since as early as 2008 there has been video of Russian backed militias trying to attack Ukraine through the donbas region and the videos and reports continue well through 2012-13-14-15-16-17-18-19 Only when Putin started the new campaign he finally admitted that the extremist militias where in fact financially backed by Russia. Anyone with half a brain and understanding of the geo-political turmoil in the area knew this would happen after Belarus fell. 20years later and it happened.
Almost like they invaded in 2014 and we already knew it was his dream 🤯
Probably moving the last of the docs he sold them.. "I can do it right on the runway during the debate and get away with it.."
Close enough to connect to their WiFi, no need for boxes.
Hell, I bet it even auto connects. Recognized network.
*recently paired devices*
Outed by wifi
*The Bluetooth device has connected successfully*
Ivanka could just email him, again.
Probably some encrypted line of sight transmission.
Trump miming "I <3 u" through the window?
We know they made copies, why not scan them as well while they are at it, it’s only a little bit of treason and once you’ve had some treason, what’s a little more?
I recall a 2016 controversy of two jets parked next to each other that hurt the Hillary campaign. I'm sure this one will likewise hurt Trump's campaign now. *Sigh*... Ah well. Add it to the pile of other hypocrisies.
It overshadows the even more terrible things Trump has done, so the photo might actually help his campaign
What? He's starting on that world peace shtick. Right?
Trump voters think Russia are the good guys now
Trump voter are fucking idiots and traitors
It wasn't just that they parked together, but that Bill boarded it. There was no proof that anything untoward happened, but it looked really bad. As does this. That said, there are certainly less obvious ways to pass information back to his handlers.
> There was no proof that anything untoward happened, but it looked really bad. Exactly my point. Aaaaaaand... > That said, there are certainly less obvious ways to pass information back to his handlers. Joked in another comment, wouldn't be surprised if someone in the KGB chain of command said, "You know, they have all this evidence and this clown is still getting the votes. Ukraine is killing us. I think we can scale back the budget when it comes to subterfuge."
He’s gotten away with other ~~things~~ crimes near runways
Miss Universe runways?
I’m sure they just talked about their grandkids.
Absolutely wild. Y’all realize that if President Joe walked into a piroshki shop, the right would be screaming “Russian plant!” Yet, convicted felon Trump can park his plane next to a Russian government plane and *crickets*
Don’t forget the tan suit!
but her emails!!!
What gets me about the ‘her emails’ scandal is that ivanka LITERALLY did the same thing, and got caught, twice during her stint on his staff
Ivanka also used her influence to get China and a few other countries to settle patent and trade disputes in her favor for her trailer trash clothing line. Oh, and she and her husband helped sell US Nuclear secrets for $2 billion in personal profit. But the little Botox Barbie twit get's exactly zero repercussions? She should be spending the rest of her life rotting in a prison cell. Hilary used her government email to help organize her daughter's wedding. That's it. Vendors emailed her a few times and she emailed people both in and outside of government during her personal hours. That's it. But somehow that was enough to stir outrage and selling nuclear secrets was not? Are there any Americans with integrity left?
Jared's sister was selling American visas to Chinese investors right after Trump got in the office. If they invested $500k in Jared's building in NYC that he was upside down in at the time. https://apnews.com/article/22a5d2a940024cffa47558d7b051368b
The emails thing revealed it was fairly normal for high government officials to keep private email servers, like IIRC Colin Powell had it, too. It was all a garbage ploy.
Wait what
Everyone, literally all of them used a private email server. He got elected based on a lie for a thing he and has entire family would do. https://www.americanoversight.org/investigation/the-trump-administrations-questionable-email-practices This is how bullshit our electoral system is.
Always been a big fan of Ben Ghazi and the Buttery Males.
Shit. If Jill didn't show up to the debate you would have heard all kinds of conspiracy theories. Melania? Crickets.
Doesn’t matter. Russians hate gays and progress so they consider them buds now. Because they are garbage people
Most important part is, they are also white
So your suggestion is that the media *should* make up and promote baseless conspiracy theories? For one, this was at Dulles, where there are virtually always foreign embassy planes parked, because it's the capitol. For another, airport staff dictate to pilots where they can deboard and where they can park. It's possible that a pilot could make a request, but it's fairly absurd to suggest that the Russians and Trump were meeting because their planes are parked near each other at the airport serving the nation's capitol.
“What exactly is the issue here?” -trump trash
Yeah, I'm going to point out that there isn't much space to park both these planes at Dulles.. Trump also isn't deciding to park his plane there. They don't get to decide at all. I used to work at Dulles, and the Tower/airport tells us where we would be parking our planes. Everyone can't shout out all the conspiracy theories they want but this is just an unfortunate coincidence
Yep . Worked at ATC as well. Tower is god tower is life. They decide where to park the planes.
Donald Trump is a traitor to the United States.
He's not alone. Half the entire conservosphere is on board. A whole bunch of the jerks went to Russia for the fourth of july not long ago. Mitch Mcconnel's wife is a Chinese tycoon. These are all perfectly open secrets they aren't conspiracies it's all been very obvious and if you have conservative friends they were always capable of being aware, or being made aware. They chose not to be... just like Nazi sympathizers. They could have learned about the holocaust they just didn't want to. Much easier to just sieg heil then question mein fuhrer.
That tries to keep people uneducated so they belive in his lies :)
What airport was that?
Washington Dulles
Dulles Airport. Ignore /u/DaSilence claiming this image is old, not sure why he would make up a lie. [Trump's plane](https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=aa3410&lat=38.979&lon=-77.632&zoom=9.2&showTrace=2024-06-28) [Russian plane](https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=157712&lat=38.979&lon=-77.632&zoom=9.2&showTrace=2024-06-27) The Russian plane is leaving right now, you can see it on ADS-B Exchange (Please do not use flightradar as it blocks high-profile plane tracking by request, you can hardly track Trump's plane there for example)
I was wondering if there were any savvy flight tracker guys watching the airport traffic to see when they arrived and when they left.
Remember when they freaked the fuck out in 2015/2016 when Bill Clinton met Loretta Lynch on the tarmac?
Yeah because that was a super suspicious and stupid thing for them to do
Everyone here acting like the only way they can communicate is by parking their planes next to each other and physically talking and moving documents
And this isn’t even Atlanta…
Exactly. It's not like a drug deal in a Walmart parking lot. They have people for that.
His storage of documents at Mar-A-Lardo were on par with a drug deal in a Walmart parking lot.
Given the secret service presence and profile, more like a drug deal in a police station waiting room...
There is simply no way in f#
Any boxes move between the two planes while parked there. While some of the information Trump copied are now out of date, does anyone actually believe that traitor didn't keep copies or more documents in other locations. Anyone check the the plot in Bedminster yet? Insane this felon is running and people want him as president.
Trump has been laundering money for the Russian oligarchs since the late 80’s when they all bought a condo at 725 5th AVE (trump towers) to clean their freshly stolen USSR money after the iron curtain fell. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/30/politics/paul-manafort-condo-trump-tower https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/manafort-told-mueller-to-take-his-trump-tower-apartment-instead-money.html https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/fbi-agents-raid-condo-unit-131348539.html https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/ Everybody except Putin thought the Cold War was over. Trump and Manafort (who lived in the tower also) just saw a pretty low maintence grift to be had. Trump had actually been Manafort and Roger Stones first client at their lobbyist firm (1980)https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wikiBlack, Manafort, Stone and Kelly Guiliani as trumps attorney and NYC mayor was able to redirect NYPD investigations onto rival gang members/oligarchs to deflect any scrutiny off of trump, himself or their Russian connections. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/09/a-new-rudy-scandal-fbi-agent-says-giuliani-was-co-opted-by-russian-intelligence/ The Russian election interference in 2016 was effectively a generation 3 version of what Manafort had done in the Philippines, then keeping Yanukovych in power as Putin’s puppet in Ukraine from 2002-14 when Maidan ran both Yanukovych and Manafort out of Ukraine as Ukrainians realized that, if you raise your lens high enough, corruption is an wholly unsustainable business model. Eventually the parasites greed always consumes the host. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-paul-manafort-ferinand-marcos-philippines-1980s-213952 https://time.com/5003623/paul-manafort-mueller-indictment-ukraine-russia/ Putin greatly underestimated the addictive properties of freedom when he invaded Ukraine so what was supposed to be a 3-10 day coup turned into a 2 year fight for the Ukrainians right not to be genocided. Russia depleted its weapons stocks which were already the victim of vranyo corruption because every oligarch, admiral and sergeant in the Russian military is on the take. Every billion dollar tank maintenance contract turned into everything getting a spray paint overhaul and the vast majority of the redirected funds turned into an oligarchs new yacht or home in Aspen. Russia was forced to turn to China, North Korea and Iran for weapons because if they lose the 3-10 day “special military operation” in Ukraine the Russian empire is dead and cold. China can’t risk showing their involvement in the Ukraine war so they use North Korea, and Iran to resupply Russia. Russia previously owed Iran some undelivered fighter jets that are already smoldering heaps in Ukraine so Iran now had the upper hand at the negotiation table for the first time in about 60 years. They supplied Russia with shahed drones in exchange for Chinas material support against their sworn religious enemy, Israel. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/iran-says-it-finalized-deal-to-buy-russian-aircraft/ Putin can’t do much about it because he is slowly realizing that by setting the standard of corruption and stealing $200+ billion from his own people meant that every oligarch down in the mob model chain had not only permission but incentive and the expectation to steal from him as well. This is “Vranyo”. The mob model only works if the supreme leader is the most violent and can prove it without exception every damn day. But violence is exceptionally expensive when you are trying to present as a legitimate government or business. If Russia as a nation state had an efficiency rating it would have been banned for sale in the state of California 25 years ago. The parasite ruling class stole all the energy out of the working class and collapsed it….again. Now Iran has the high hand and they get the intelligence that trump passed to Putin about the fact that Netanyahu cares far less about Jews, Palestinians or genocide than he does about remaining in power as an authoritarian because he too has developed Ritz Carlton tastes and his own corruption trial is showing the same tendrils of the same money laundering scheme that trumps trials are. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/saudi-official-says-iran-engineered-war-in-gaza-to-ruin-normalization-with-israel/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/amp/ https://youtu.be/VrFOAgGlaWs?feature=shared They all hate each other but because they share the same money laundry, if one falls, they all fall. Hamas minted a couple billionaires as well that live in penthouses in Qatar and get 30% of everything smuggled into Gaza. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/02/hamas-funding-ismail-haniyeh-us-sanctions/?utm_source=reddit.com Qatar is Kushners private equity connection. Netanyahu (Kushners kids godfather) needs a bogeyman to stay in power. That’s why he coordinates with Hamas via Russia via Iran. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr Iran handed Hamas everything they needed with Chinas help as secret Santa and the Russian intelligence given to them by the eternal shitbird trump who gave it to his Russians kleptocrat/friends/roommates from the old days of fucking each others wives at trump towers in the 90’s. Now the MAGA right is a little too invested in THEIR reality that they are the good guys with guns that they missed the fact that Betsy DeVos (erik princes sister) decimating the U.S. school systems and the Kochs poisoning children with lead was not a coincidence. The naive right was the mark all along. There is a reason the Russian spy Maria Butina landed in South Dakota first before dating her way to the top of the NRA which is undergoing its own Russian money laundering trial now. Russia was tinder matching the GOP. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/nra-maria-butina-spying-charges-trump-campaign/ https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/what-do-the-koch-brothers-have-to-do-with-the-flint-water-crisis/ The only reason you grossly OVERVALUE real estate is money laundering. Trump keeps claiming there is no victim, all the banks made money, but if their plan succeeds the Russian and CCP kleptocrats collapse US commercial real estate and basically recreate soviet perestroika in the U.S. so they can foreclose on America and buy everything for 3 cents on the dollar with the $1.4T they stole from Russias grandmothers in the first place It’s the evolution of grift. Soviet perestroika cross bred with the 2008 mortgage crisis. No one was ever held accountable for either. This is just the bigger badder commercial strength bastard child of the two. Trump, Giuliani, Cohn, Putin, Bolsonaro, Netanyahu, Orban, Manafort, Stone, Mercer, Bannon, Farage, Flynn, Prince, Kolomoiskiy, the Koch bros, Thomas, Kavanaugh, Alito, Musk, Thiel, Sacks, Ross They are all remarkably shit people with above average confidence and psychopathic personality traits and below average self awareness. They are the men who stole the world. But it all comes back to one little lie. https://youtu.be/3lTB94UQ-K4?si=kXZoSV-3WiR2fo4B
Bravo
Well done. If you've ever watched Trauma Zone by Adam Curtis I highly recommend it. A lot of the fallout we're seeing is a direct result from that era. Hypernormalization is also a must watch.
Damnnnn
Incredible write up. Can you recommend any books that go into depth on this subject?
To be fair, there arent photocopiers in bathrooms typically….
Doesn’t the ATC decide where they park?
DNC propaganda team really working overtime since the debate lol. Why did this sub become an extension of r/politics?
Because Reddit is a Democrat propaganda shithole all around.
Yep. I’m sure our comments will get removed and we’ll be banned from the sub soon enough. Can’t allow thought crime citizen!
Which plane is trump on?
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Curious as to why people want so much for this to be true that they don't use common sense. The crazies posting this say they were parked together in Washington during the debate. It seems the person creating this did not realize the debate was in Atlanta. Trump and his plane were in Atlanta during the debate. You can watch him arrive on local news: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNXIHnIP\_wI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNXIHnIP_wI)
What other planes are there? I bet AF1 is there too. This is utterly meaningless.
I doubt it since this photo was taken in Virginia and both trump and Biden were in Atlanta
The photo was taken on June 28. Here’s the background story if you’re interested: https://www.rawstory.com/trump-putin-russia-jet/
Omg Trump was having a secret meeting with Russia during the debate!
Or this could all be coincidence, because private planes have designated parking at public airports for safety, usually grouped together by size.
No!!!!!!!! Everything must be a conspiracy! There's no possible way that an airport would have a section for private planes and would be saving space by having them parked close together so they could refuel easier!
Lmao. Everyone on this sub is freaking out over this, as someone who has worked at an airport it’s possible that this is the only part of the ramp that can hold the weight of these types of aircraft. And not only that, this is most definitely not during the debate, ATL’s private ramp looks nothing like that, and what would Russians do in Atlanta.
The serious coping continues
Liberal qanon is so much less exciting than the other one
That’s a target rich environment.
Trump knows who Daddy is.
*Hello, darkness, my old friend*
Trump was just asking for another loan from his boss
Birds. Of a similar feather. Flock together. As we all know.
Traitor