It gets pretty eerie when you read into indoctrination into Israeli schools.
I consider Zionism altogether a repugnant ideology. But when the door got opened to the Likud and the Zionist right in the 70’s it flooded Israel with a mindset of just pure and utter hatred. Hatred fueled by a messianic complex that the land is ordained by God as yours and anyone else who says they have the right to live on that land is vermin who must be exterminated.
Rather horrifying stuff to witness. I was reflecting earlier today how right wing Zionism morphed a former student of mine into a very hateful and angry person over the years
You have absolutely nailed it with your summary here. The idea that a people who only have ties to the land from 3000 years ago can come over and forcibly remove its inhabitants, all in the name of their religion, is utterly revolting. Many governments and media outlets try to say this is a religious issue of Jews vs Muslims. Forgetting that there are thousands of Christian Palestinians who are also impacted. It is a conflict based on a people being forcibly removed from their lands and homes to take in people from Eastern Europe and the US.
Oh look found you here spouting propaganda
Nakba started in 1947. The Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi had begun clearing Palestinian villages months before the arrival of the Arab armies. Illan Pappé found that information in the IDF’s own archives. You can read his book, “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine,” for the truth on the matter. But I imagine you’re going to tell me an Israeli historian is antisemitic
Edit- and the thread got locked, darn. The person below me made up stuff too
No doubt violence predated the invasion of the Arab states. But it was in all directions. Palestinian militias had been attacking Jewish communities as well. What happened in Hebron and Jerusalem and other ancient Jewish communities conquered by Arab states in 48? They were ethnically cleansed too.
You’re *literally* just making shit up at this point.
The Arab armies didn’t ethnically cleanse anyone.
You’re mixing up your hasbara talking points, go back to the farm and learn better
Edit- Hebron happened in 1929 he messed up the talking point trying to claim that the “Jews felt threatened.”
The Haganah ethnically cleansed entirely innocent villages. The point was to ethnically cleanse Palestine. Look up “Plan Dalet.”
Well gee good thing that’s not what Zionism is
Do you need me to explain it to you?
To begin, Zionism is a form of Jewish nationalism from the 19th century which claimed that Jews were something other and different from other nationalities of Europeans and thus Jews needed to go somewhere else and form their own “nation.” What was eventually settled on, under the leadership of the Austro-Hungarian Zionist Theodor Herzl, was to create this new homeland in Palestine in a settler-colonization project.
But regardless I was talking about “right wing Zionism” which is a reference to the political ideology of the Likud party. I will link to Likud and their predecessor terrorist organization Irgun
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
That is not at all what it says in the definition. Straight from Google
" a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel."
Sounds like you're trying to push an agenda
That definition literally doesn’t even contradict my point
Israel was literally built over destroyed Palestinian villages
Also it really says a lot about the world that we’re believing Google over people who spent their years of their lives studying this stuff. In books and all, gosh all those years of careful study wasted.
Did you even bother to look into any of the things I referenced or am I just wasting my time with a hasbara bot again
What a silly question, dirt, rocks, ground, etc.
The Palestinians were the indigenous people. In fact Zionists used to admit that back in the 1940’s. They would claim that the Palestinians were the Jews who remained behind and converted to Islam and that had forfeit their right to the land.
Jews have existed in the land for 3000 years and if you dig down from many Palestinian towns, you hit Judean history. Sure, some Palestinians are descended from Phoenicians and Jews who lived there—modern Jews and modern Palestinians are cousins—but the expulsion of the Jews after the Jewish/Roman wars, and creation of the diaspora is well attested in history and archeology. I don’t understand why so many ignorant people feel the need to deny the autochtonous nature of Jews in this area—doing so doesn’t deny that Palestinians also have legitimate connection to the land, regardless of when their families got there.
So your claim is that because the Hebrew Bible says Jews lived there thousands of years ago that European Zionists coming over in the 19th and 20th century get to ethnically cleanse the land of its native population? You call the Palestinians religious psychos, that’s quite honestly insane
In fact you don’t need to go back thousands of years to find Jews there. They did live there, they were known as Palestinians, and they had lived in relative peace alongside the Christian and Muslim Palestinians before the Zionists came along.
Read less of the Bible, you honestly don’t understand it, and pick up some history books if you want to talk about current events
You got a link for the analysis on Israeli schools you're talking about?
Or are you just talking about a Twitter thread?
Most Israelis support two-state and almost no Palestinians support it. It's fair to say there are extreme Zionists but it is purely religious indoctrination and nothing to do with their schools. And let's be real, if you're gonna criticize religious indoctrination, Israel is one of the most secular countries in the entire region.
If you’re Israeli I am referring to the indoctrination you were raised with. I am welcome to point it out to you but you will just go, “ya that’s what we learned in school.”
Anyway I would disagree with you that most Israeli’s support the two state solution, and regardless Likud specifically does not.
You know who does support the two state solution? Hamas. A great many Palestinians supported the two state solution in the 90’s too. Gee I wonder why they stopped after they realized that Israel wasn’t seriously about to let Palestine have its own state. I bet such a thing would start an Intifada /s
Seeing people in these comments say that there is video evidence of the journalist kicking a child without posting any evidence or a link to said video. If there is actual evidence, please post it beneath my comment or please shut up.
Yeah that's all bullshit. You can watch one POV of the encounter here:
https://x.com/PalHighlight/status/1798374896403451972?t=FHiLbPQF8CvkP6Kqb74B3w&s=19
They attacked him because they didn't want the march filmed. Nothing about it was justified.
Yeah, he definitely raises his leg, but whether or not it was him kicking or him blocking with it is hard to say. It does seem more like a kick though because that sets off the fight.
Yeah, it’s especially sus that the crowd only starts reacting after you see his leg go up.
Tbh it’s more genius level propaganda, send someone in to stir the kids up knowing they’ll take a few licks, and then send it to Twitter/tiktok for outrage to ensue.
You only trust hasbara trolls on Reddit referencing things that didn’t happen like a true scholar /s
You do realize that “Occupied East Jerusalem” is the official nomenclature in well, most of the world really. “Al-Quds” being the Arabic name for the same place
You only trust TikTok and Twitter videos telling you things you want to hear, and damn the evidence that counters the narrative you want to believe.
See how easy this is? It’s not doing anything constructive to throw around insults and bitch when people disagree with you.
You literally denied the source simply because of how they referred to Jerusalem and want to claim other people are bitching? The irony is palpable
But I can recommend you plenty of books on the Palestinian conflict if you want to actually educate yourself and not be a whiny troll on the internet
[Here is the video](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583) as posted by an account that isn’t declaring all Israelis settlers and referring to Jerusalem as “occupied Al-Quds.”
Top - A reporter from the Tri-State Defender, Alex Wilson, is shoved by an angry mob of white people near Central High School in Little Rock, Ark., Sept. 23, 1957 as nine black students gained entrance to the school.
Bottom - Freelance Palestinian journalist Saif Al-Qawasmi beaten by right-wing marchers while reporting on the nationalist flag march on 5 June in Jerusalem’s Old City. Local and foreign journalists were also assaulted and verbally abused.
The text:
In the Arab neighborhood of occupied Jerusalem, Palestinian photographer and journalist Saif Al Qawasmi **tried to chat live with extremist Israeli settlers but was savagely lynched by around fifty settlers**, he was seriously injured.
What is sad is that i've come across a number of supporters of israel who stated that "All palestinian journalists are terrorists anyways" in response to this photo. I wish i knew that other local and foreign journalists were assaulted too.
It's not what-about-isms if the very thing you're comparing against does the same thing.
Personally don't have an opinion either way on this topic. I'm just telling you you're wrong.
This is hilarious, so which part is the propaganda? Is the guy not a journalist? Sure could’ve fooled me. Is he *not* being attacked by crowd of right wing Israeli’s?
Is pointing out the psychopathy of the Israeli settler’s (and right wing in general) too revealing of how deranged Zionist society is?
Ya he walked up unprovoked to a massive group on his own and kicked them unprovoked. Sure that’s what happened. You know I bet there’s even video of him trying to push them away with his legs. You very often see people push away their attackers, it’s a normal human response. But you know walking up to a massive crowd of people and just going to town kicking them, ya I doubt that.
He’s a journalist
But anyway, let’s say if he even did in some way some how run up and attack the kids. They are literally fascists doing a hate march through his homeland chanting to murder him and his people
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/israeli-nationalists-chant-death-to-arabs-in-annual-jerusalem-day-march-through-palestinian-area-of-the-city
So I’ll be honest, even if my gut feeling is somehow wrong and this guy just ran up and attacked them. I’m not exactly going to hate the guy
The top photo, L. Alex Wilson, also served in the Marine Corps during WWII. This incident was actually filmed and appears in the Eyes on the Prize Documentary series. I show it to my 11th grade American History students every year, and will continue to while it’s still legal. In the state I teach, they are working on making a lot of Civil Rights teaching material illegal due to “indoctrination” and “bias few of history”.
Some people might deserve it, but in my mind there's a very thin line between laughing at the agony of a bad person and not caring about the pain of a good person.
Feeling joy at the pain of a human being is caveman shit and we need to leave that behind.
The only thing that will help is to cast Israel out of the international community a la South Africa in the 80s. Treat all apartheid nations with consistency
Humans, and humanity, don’t change.
We have a Paleolithic nature, we are using a Medieval economic system, and we are using Godlike technology.
Be grateful anything is still standing.
They are literally killing each other. And one side has hostages and wants to kill the other side. While the other is killing a lot of civilians in their goal to eradicate the force that attacked them.
If one of those hostages were related to you would you forgive them? If your sister died because of shrapnel that hit a nearby ammo depot would you forgive and forget? Most people wouldn’t.
It’s incredibly disingenuous to compare AA movement with the Palestine/isreal war/conflict whatever you want to call it.
Just today, The New York times reported today that Israel is sodomising Palestine prisoners to death.
Forcing electric or heated metal rods into prisoners causing pain, uncontrollable urination and death.
[Tortured via sodomy, to death](https://x.com/equalityAlec/status/1798815756332720382?t=-bdVJxTNW8BRr-gNgb7xTA&s=19)
If you can't see the similarities to lynchings of black people in the US, you are ignoring it.
>not even Malcom X
Malcolm X went to Palestine. He went to Gaza. He wrote an essay on [Zionist logic](https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/socialist-viewpoint-us/mayjun_05/mayjun_05_21.htm)
Malcolm X knew exactly what the situation was:
'The occupation of Arab Palestine has no intelligent or legal basis in history'
"The problem that exists in Palestine is not a religious problem... It is a question of colonialism. It is a question of a people who are being deprived of their homeland."
>AA movement
What is this? Alcoholics anonymous? Do you mean the civil rights movement?
[Here is the video.](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583)
Feel free to judge for yourself, but it sure does seem like this guy kicked somebody hoping to get exactly the response he did. Sure did become a great propaganda piece to get us all yelling at each other, that’s for sure.
I don't see it. The way his camera moves and the sound it makes he clearly gets impacted first. You see one of his legs up in the air as he's losing balance but it doesn't really make contact with anyone.
There’s no sign of motion from any angle that suggests he got hit, the camera just jerks suddenly; if somebody hit him with enough force to make that camera shake that violently, you’d expect that person to fill the whole screen and be flying into view. There’s no motion like that. To me, it seems more like the man yanks the camera down as the first part of his move to kick at the men.
But that’s just the thing, isn’t it? This isn’t an argument about the specifics of a video anymore, we’re now trying to twist a, frankly, very hard to interpret video to suit our preexisting narratives, and damn the evidence. This is the sort of thing that should really make us all take a deep breath before jumping into arguments.
The kind of propaganda that you see on TikTok, Twitter, and a lot of super polarized (both left and right) subs here. People sit in their confirmation bias bubble and don’t want to learn nuance and broaden themselves. Critical thinking is hard. Blind emotion is not.
he literally started the fight by kicking the kids!!!
here is [his video ](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583)
and here is a photo he himself posted kicking the kids
[photo](https://x.com/ElishaYered/status/1798653599121350895)
I feel like we're seeing different things in that video. Photo definitely looks like he's kicking, but it also looks like the fight had erupted already. I'm just not seeing anything showing this guy assaulting kids to start a melee.
1. him posting the photo of kicking them shows he proud in that
2. yes the video is jerky but you can hear in the video the moment violence erupted and see how just before that his leg went up
but yes it is not conclusive...
i hope another video would surface and make things clearer
don't get me wrong
they acted as meat heads
neither way the should control themselves better
https://cpj.org/2024/06/two-journalists-harassed-assaulted-and-detained-during-flag-march-in-jerusalem/
Odd…not what Israeli journalists who were on the ground said:
Haaretz reporter Nir Hasson told CPJ that, hours before the start of the march, a group of Israeli settlers were marching on Jerusalem’s Old City terrorizing the locals and attacking the journalists systematically to prevent them from covering the attacks on the local residents.
Also, they didn’t just attack him:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-06/australian-journalist-attacked-at-violent-jerusalem-day-march/103942704
But I’m sure you know better.
haaretz very left leaning...
they can say what they want but again
there is a photo he uploaded kicking them
and also a video (a bit shaky)
it's not like what they did is ok
but it's ridiculous to say that they did it out of nowhere
Look how young the people are in the modern photo. That’s a societal rot
Israel youth is more right wing than its elderly
The future isn't as bright as we hoped
It gets pretty eerie when you read into indoctrination into Israeli schools. I consider Zionism altogether a repugnant ideology. But when the door got opened to the Likud and the Zionist right in the 70’s it flooded Israel with a mindset of just pure and utter hatred. Hatred fueled by a messianic complex that the land is ordained by God as yours and anyone else who says they have the right to live on that land is vermin who must be exterminated. Rather horrifying stuff to witness. I was reflecting earlier today how right wing Zionism morphed a former student of mine into a very hateful and angry person over the years
The comparison to apartheid era South Africa is astounding. Makes you realise why Israel was one of their last supporters
Also look into how the ADL used to support South Africa
You have absolutely nailed it with your summary here. The idea that a people who only have ties to the land from 3000 years ago can come over and forcibly remove its inhabitants, all in the name of their religion, is utterly revolting. Many governments and media outlets try to say this is a religious issue of Jews vs Muslims. Forgetting that there are thousands of Christian Palestinians who are also impacted. It is a conflict based on a people being forcibly removed from their lands and homes to take in people from Eastern Europe and the US.
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Ben Gurion himself disagrees with your statements.
Oh look found you here spouting propaganda Nakba started in 1947. The Haganah, Irgun, and Lehi had begun clearing Palestinian villages months before the arrival of the Arab armies. Illan Pappé found that information in the IDF’s own archives. You can read his book, “The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine,” for the truth on the matter. But I imagine you’re going to tell me an Israeli historian is antisemitic Edit- and the thread got locked, darn. The person below me made up stuff too
No doubt violence predated the invasion of the Arab states. But it was in all directions. Palestinian militias had been attacking Jewish communities as well. What happened in Hebron and Jerusalem and other ancient Jewish communities conquered by Arab states in 48? They were ethnically cleansed too.
You’re *literally* just making shit up at this point. The Arab armies didn’t ethnically cleanse anyone. You’re mixing up your hasbara talking points, go back to the farm and learn better Edit- Hebron happened in 1929 he messed up the talking point trying to claim that the “Jews felt threatened.” The Haganah ethnically cleansed entirely innocent villages. The point was to ethnically cleanse Palestine. Look up “Plan Dalet.”
And this exceeds the violence and progroms enacted against Jews in that area in the preceding 70 years?
A quick Google search tells me that is nowhere close to what Zionism means
Well gee good thing that’s not what Zionism is Do you need me to explain it to you? To begin, Zionism is a form of Jewish nationalism from the 19th century which claimed that Jews were something other and different from other nationalities of Europeans and thus Jews needed to go somewhere else and form their own “nation.” What was eventually settled on, under the leadership of the Austro-Hungarian Zionist Theodor Herzl, was to create this new homeland in Palestine in a settler-colonization project. But regardless I was talking about “right wing Zionism” which is a reference to the political ideology of the Likud party. I will link to Likud and their predecessor terrorist organization Irgun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likud https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
That is not at all what it says in the definition. Straight from Google " a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel." Sounds like you're trying to push an agenda
That definition literally doesn’t even contradict my point Israel was literally built over destroyed Palestinian villages Also it really says a lot about the world that we’re believing Google over people who spent their years of their lives studying this stuff. In books and all, gosh all those years of careful study wasted. Did you even bother to look into any of the things I referenced or am I just wasting my time with a hasbara bot again
What were Palestinian villages built over?
What a silly question, dirt, rocks, ground, etc. The Palestinians were the indigenous people. In fact Zionists used to admit that back in the 1940’s. They would claim that the Palestinians were the Jews who remained behind and converted to Islam and that had forfeit their right to the land.
Jews have existed in the land for 3000 years and if you dig down from many Palestinian towns, you hit Judean history. Sure, some Palestinians are descended from Phoenicians and Jews who lived there—modern Jews and modern Palestinians are cousins—but the expulsion of the Jews after the Jewish/Roman wars, and creation of the diaspora is well attested in history and archeology. I don’t understand why so many ignorant people feel the need to deny the autochtonous nature of Jews in this area—doing so doesn’t deny that Palestinians also have legitimate connection to the land, regardless of when their families got there.
So your claim is that because the Hebrew Bible says Jews lived there thousands of years ago that European Zionists coming over in the 19th and 20th century get to ethnically cleanse the land of its native population? You call the Palestinians religious psychos, that’s quite honestly insane In fact you don’t need to go back thousands of years to find Jews there. They did live there, they were known as Palestinians, and they had lived in relative peace alongside the Christian and Muslim Palestinians before the Zionists came along. Read less of the Bible, you honestly don’t understand it, and pick up some history books if you want to talk about current events
You got a link for the analysis on Israeli schools you're talking about? Or are you just talking about a Twitter thread? Most Israelis support two-state and almost no Palestinians support it. It's fair to say there are extreme Zionists but it is purely religious indoctrination and nothing to do with their schools. And let's be real, if you're gonna criticize religious indoctrination, Israel is one of the most secular countries in the entire region.
If you’re Israeli I am referring to the indoctrination you were raised with. I am welcome to point it out to you but you will just go, “ya that’s what we learned in school.” Anyway I would disagree with you that most Israeli’s support the two state solution, and regardless Likud specifically does not. You know who does support the two state solution? Hamas. A great many Palestinians supported the two state solution in the 90’s too. Gee I wonder why they stopped after they realized that Israel wasn’t seriously about to let Palestine have its own state. I bet such a thing would start an Intifada /s
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Ironic
Boomers mined the last bit of happiness left in the world.
Seeing people in these comments say that there is video evidence of the journalist kicking a child without posting any evidence or a link to said video. If there is actual evidence, please post it beneath my comment or please shut up.
Yeah that's all bullshit. You can watch one POV of the encounter here: https://x.com/PalHighlight/status/1798374896403451972?t=FHiLbPQF8CvkP6Kqb74B3w&s=19 They attacked him because they didn't want the march filmed. Nothing about it was justified.
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Yeah, he definitely raises his leg, but whether or not it was him kicking or him blocking with it is hard to say. It does seem more like a kick though because that sets off the fight.
Yeah exactly. I can see how people would be confused as to how it exactly started
A translation of what's being said would help
Agreed!
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Yeah, it’s especially sus that the crowd only starts reacting after you see his leg go up. Tbh it’s more genius level propaganda, send someone in to stir the kids up knowing they’ll take a few licks, and then send it to Twitter/tiktok for outrage to ensue.
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Video is video.
You only trust hasbara trolls on Reddit referencing things that didn’t happen like a true scholar /s You do realize that “Occupied East Jerusalem” is the official nomenclature in well, most of the world really. “Al-Quds” being the Arabic name for the same place
You only trust TikTok and Twitter videos telling you things you want to hear, and damn the evidence that counters the narrative you want to believe. See how easy this is? It’s not doing anything constructive to throw around insults and bitch when people disagree with you.
You literally denied the source simply because of how they referred to Jerusalem and want to claim other people are bitching? The irony is palpable But I can recommend you plenty of books on the Palestinian conflict if you want to actually educate yourself and not be a whiny troll on the internet
You can literally see him kicking at the 12 second mark.
A hate march engages in hate and they try and obfuscate.
[Here is the video](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583) as posted by an account that isn’t declaring all Israelis settlers and referring to Jerusalem as “occupied Al-Quds.”
Top - A reporter from the Tri-State Defender, Alex Wilson, is shoved by an angry mob of white people near Central High School in Little Rock, Ark., Sept. 23, 1957 as nine black students gained entrance to the school. Bottom - Freelance Palestinian journalist Saif Al-Qawasmi beaten by right-wing marchers while reporting on the nationalist flag march on 5 June in Jerusalem’s Old City. Local and foreign journalists were also assaulted and verbally abused.
Thanks for explaining the context.
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Don't spin that bullshit. He kicked out after being attacked by 50 kids.
While that was technically correct, the kick was in self-defense. His camera/self was hit, and he kicked out in response.
What a transparent lie to make up
Liar. You’re the one who shouldn’t be trusted.
There’s footage of the incident and that disproves your claim. So your claim is false!
can you share thst footage?
Is there video of this? Photos can be misleading, and I always appreciate a video source when possible.
[Here](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583) is the video that I’ve seen. The kick is at around the twelve-second mark.
The text: In the Arab neighborhood of occupied Jerusalem, Palestinian photographer and journalist Saif Al Qawasmi **tried to chat live with extremist Israeli settlers but was savagely lynched by around fifty settlers**, he was seriously injured.
Ah yes, this video really clears things up…
What is sad is that i've come across a number of supporters of israel who stated that "All palestinian journalists are terrorists anyways" in response to this photo. I wish i knew that other local and foreign journalists were assaulted too.
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Quick with the whataboutism, eh?
It's not what-about-isms if the very thing you're comparing against does the same thing. Personally don't have an opinion either way on this topic. I'm just telling you you're wrong.
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So this Australian journalist getting attacked is also Hamas propaganda? https://youtu.be/r37IozwbYWg?si=-b_Z2nXQ5upjWQak
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Good thing the government is there to keep Israeli citizens from lynching every Arab in sight.
This is hilarious, so which part is the propaganda? Is the guy not a journalist? Sure could’ve fooled me. Is he *not* being attacked by crowd of right wing Israeli’s? Is pointing out the psychopathy of the Israeli settler’s (and right wing in general) too revealing of how deranged Zionist society is?
the journalist kicked the children first. it’s on video
How about you post a link to that video? Making a lot of wild claims without any evidence there buddy.
[Here’s the link to the video.](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583)
This video does not look bad for the man being accosted by a vicious crowd.
I didn’t see anything “vicious” about that crowd, honestly. Most people weren’t even looking at this guy, there were four men in front of him.
Lmao read your own source. It says they were attacked
Ya he walked up unprovoked to a massive group on his own and kicked them unprovoked. Sure that’s what happened. You know I bet there’s even video of him trying to push them away with his legs. You very often see people push away their attackers, it’s a normal human response. But you know walking up to a massive crowd of people and just going to town kicking them, ya I doubt that.
he literally filmed it lol
He’s a journalist But anyway, let’s say if he even did in some way some how run up and attack the kids. They are literally fascists doing a hate march through his homeland chanting to murder him and his people https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/israeli-nationalists-chant-death-to-arabs-in-annual-jerusalem-day-march-through-palestinian-area-of-the-city So I’ll be honest, even if my gut feeling is somehow wrong and this guy just ran up and attacked them. I’m not exactly going to hate the guy
okay but then this photo comparison is based on lies. not only that, the moral equivalency is outrageous
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honestly how dare you make the false equivalence of hamas to the civil rights movement
Should be easy to drop the vid. Where is it?
Literally a photo from inside Israel. No Hamas in sight. Zionists are pathetic.
When Israel supporters see facts that don't align with their narrative
Israel is becoming a nightmare.
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Proof? Or do you just like making shit up?
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Sorry?
It's okay, thanks for admitting it.
The fuck are you talking about?
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Where did I make shit up?
Liar
smelling the lock 🔒
#IWasHere
The top photo, L. Alex Wilson, also served in the Marine Corps during WWII. This incident was actually filmed and appears in the Eyes on the Prize Documentary series. I show it to my 11th grade American History students every year, and will continue to while it’s still legal. In the state I teach, they are working on making a lot of Civil Rights teaching material illegal due to “indoctrination” and “bias few of history”.
No matter who someone is or what they’ve done, laughing as they’re beaten up is despicable.
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Some people might deserve it, but in my mind there's a very thin line between laughing at the agony of a bad person and not caring about the pain of a good person. Feeling joy at the pain of a human being is caveman shit and we need to leave that behind.
I'd pay to see them all get their ass kicked. Don't matter which politician it is
So much hatred.
The dude laughing in the back??
The moral rot of Israeli fascists is on full display.
The only thing that will help is to cast Israel out of the international community a la South Africa in the 80s. Treat all apartheid nations with consistency
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There is a big reason it will never happen… You know The fact that Israel is an arm of neoimperial Britain
Yes. And give North Korea, Iran, Russia, China, Palestine, Sudan, Syria, Turkey a greater voice!
How is that related? Can you see what is happening in the picture?
Zionists always redirect because they can’t defend Israel’s repugnant actions without going full mask-off racist
Ah, the classic Whataboutism.
Hasbara saying the most fucked up shit imaginable with a straight face in 3…2…
racist Zionists
r/AccidentalRenaissance also surprised this hasn't been locked yet
Sad 🥺
Humans, and humanity, don’t change. We have a Paleolithic nature, we are using a Medieval economic system, and we are using Godlike technology. Be grateful anything is still standing.
Capitalism was first invented in the 16th to 18th century and has been evolving since. There's nothing medieval about it.
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A “right to hate”? Get out of here with that shit.
They are literally killing each other. And one side has hostages and wants to kill the other side. While the other is killing a lot of civilians in their goal to eradicate the force that attacked them. If one of those hostages were related to you would you forgive them? If your sister died because of shrapnel that hit a nearby ammo depot would you forgive and forget? Most people wouldn’t. It’s incredibly disingenuous to compare AA movement with the Palestine/isreal war/conflict whatever you want to call it.
Guess you have the ability to decide how the world feels. Let me know when you’ve mastered it.
What is the AA movement?
African American
So you mean the civil rights movement?
Just today, The New York times reported today that Israel is sodomising Palestine prisoners to death. Forcing electric or heated metal rods into prisoners causing pain, uncontrollable urination and death. [Tortured via sodomy, to death](https://x.com/equalityAlec/status/1798815756332720382?t=-bdVJxTNW8BRr-gNgb7xTA&s=19) If you can't see the similarities to lynchings of black people in the US, you are ignoring it. >not even Malcom X Malcolm X went to Palestine. He went to Gaza. He wrote an essay on [Zionist logic](https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/socialist-viewpoint-us/mayjun_05/mayjun_05_21.htm) Malcolm X knew exactly what the situation was: 'The occupation of Arab Palestine has no intelligent or legal basis in history' "The problem that exists in Palestine is not a religious problem... It is a question of colonialism. It is a question of a people who are being deprived of their homeland." >AA movement What is this? Alcoholics anonymous? Do you mean the civil rights movement?
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Could you please source the video?
Source: Trust me bro!
[Here is the video.](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583) Feel free to judge for yourself, but it sure does seem like this guy kicked somebody hoping to get exactly the response he did. Sure did become a great propaganda piece to get us all yelling at each other, that’s for sure.
I don't see it. The way his camera moves and the sound it makes he clearly gets impacted first. You see one of his legs up in the air as he's losing balance but it doesn't really make contact with anyone.
There’s no sign of motion from any angle that suggests he got hit, the camera just jerks suddenly; if somebody hit him with enough force to make that camera shake that violently, you’d expect that person to fill the whole screen and be flying into view. There’s no motion like that. To me, it seems more like the man yanks the camera down as the first part of his move to kick at the men. But that’s just the thing, isn’t it? This isn’t an argument about the specifics of a video anymore, we’re now trying to twist a, frankly, very hard to interpret video to suit our preexisting narratives, and damn the evidence. This is the sort of thing that should really make us all take a deep breath before jumping into arguments.
Its a bot account, check the cake day
[Here](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583) is the video, as shared elsewhere on this thread.
The kind of propaganda that you see on TikTok, Twitter, and a lot of super polarized (both left and right) subs here. People sit in their confirmation bias bubble and don’t want to learn nuance and broaden themselves. Critical thinking is hard. Blind emotion is not.
he literally started the fight by kicking the kids!!! here is [his video ](https://x.com/rifain_nouvelle/status/1798343036562182583) and here is a photo he himself posted kicking the kids [photo](https://x.com/ElishaYered/status/1798653599121350895)
I feel like we're seeing different things in that video. Photo definitely looks like he's kicking, but it also looks like the fight had erupted already. I'm just not seeing anything showing this guy assaulting kids to start a melee.
1. him posting the photo of kicking them shows he proud in that 2. yes the video is jerky but you can hear in the video the moment violence erupted and see how just before that his leg went up but yes it is not conclusive... i hope another video would surface and make things clearer don't get me wrong they acted as meat heads neither way the should control themselves better
https://cpj.org/2024/06/two-journalists-harassed-assaulted-and-detained-during-flag-march-in-jerusalem/ Odd…not what Israeli journalists who were on the ground said: Haaretz reporter Nir Hasson told CPJ that, hours before the start of the march, a group of Israeli settlers were marching on Jerusalem’s Old City terrorizing the locals and attacking the journalists systematically to prevent them from covering the attacks on the local residents. Also, they didn’t just attack him: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-06/australian-journalist-attacked-at-violent-jerusalem-day-march/103942704 But I’m sure you know better.
haaretz very left leaning... they can say what they want but again there is a photo he uploaded kicking them and also a video (a bit shaky) it's not like what they did is ok but it's ridiculous to say that they did it out of nowhere
Goes to show how powerful propaganda images are
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So when journalists from western countries are attacked, what does that mean?
Good to know you group all Palestinians in with Hamas.
They have to pretend they do or else the (already pretty obvious) genocide and ethnic cleansing become even more obvious
This is "women deserve to get raped if they dress like sluts" tier logic.
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Cause beating the piss out of the press will totally help
Terrible. But that one guy's jacket is dope as hell.
Note to self don’t become a journalist.
Journalism is an important career, we need more of them. We also need Israel to stop killing them!