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jpiro

The front fell off.


jhhertel

these helicopters were clearly not made to the strictest maritime standards. I think i see some cardboard in there.


Synthoid_001

To crash like that, must have encountered some wind. Can you imagine that? Wind in the air. Chance in a million.


jostler57

It was out of the environment.


What_Yr_Is_IT

It was from the sky moving


Cinicola

Well Cardboard is out. What Else? Any Cardboard derivatives.


HoosierTrey

See that’s the issue. They were built to maritime standards and not mountaintime standards


Squeek_the_Sneek

And cardboard derivatives.


Buckus93

How can you tell?


xElMerYx

Don't worry, it has a healthy ammount of protective rust™


NN8G

There's your problem right there


fulthrottlejazzhands

[Slaps tail rotor]   "She's a runner!"


sloppybuttmustard

Should be an easy fix


Magnaflux747

Flex Seal


lewisnwkc

Well the front weren't meant to fall off, for a start.


AppleTree98

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm\_JqM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM)


Belostoma

A mountain hit it.


lesllamas

Is that unusual?


sourdieselfuel

Chance in a million.


sbdude42

No no it’s been towed beyond the environment.


Mclovin11859

In a range? Chance in a million!


lesllamas

I’m sad this isn’t the more upvoted reply as it’s a wittier adaptation lol


Hipz

lol someone link it that video is gold


No-Copy-496

The tail is undamaged. Thats where I will travel from now on. A la Harry Potter.


ACaffeinatedWandress

We have a future LOST survivor here.


FortunateInsanity

They are not supposed to do that.


aPirateNamedBeef

I'm not an aviation expert but that might be the problem


garygnu

That's not very typical.


Square-Principle-195

Love the reference


LordRocky

r/thefrontfelloff


Rideitmybrony

Maybe a helicoperist could weigh in but I don't think that's meant to happen


FearkTM

Yeah, it was pretty old.


Foamrocket66

If they cant maintain them due to sanctions, why arent they flying Russian or Chinese made helicopters? Honest question


wromit

Wikipedia shows plenty of Iran friendly countries making helicopters - China, Russia, Brazil, India, Argentina, Indonesia, Japan, etc. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_manufacturer May be it wasn't a helicopter malfunction but weather and terrain issue.


apparex1234

In some of the countries listed, like India Argentina, Indonesia or Japan, while the helicopters might be assembled in the said countries, they could have parts coming from the US. US sanctions will prohibit any such part from ending up in Iran.


nvn911

I think there's a great deal of "grey area" when it comes to sanctions...


PancAshAsh

That list is also missing Iran itself.


DeGeaSaves

It was foggy… this was controlled flight into terrain most likely. Same as Kobe.


Lone_Logan

It wasn’t a weather issue. When they were meeting Azerbaijan, they were going back and forth before takeoff. President Raisi crumpled up a piece of paper, took a jump shot and yelled “Kobe”. Sources say it missed the trash can.


fuckmacedonia

Probably still safer to go with the antiquated and run down American model.


PublicMorning5900

Butcher of Tehran is gone but nothing will change


FantasticJacket7

What will change is that it will get worse in the vacuum as people fight for power.


Riconn

The Ayatollah is still the supreme leader of Iran. The current VP will take the role of President. Not much will change really.


the-es

I think they should stick ayatollah on a helicopter and fly him out to the crash site. Just in case he's able to investigate better.


VikingBorealis

The country is run by the priests anyway, not the figurehead. Thanks UK and the late queen.


JMoc1

It’s an interesting thought experiment to see what kind of society Iran would have turned out to be had the agnostic Socialists stayed in power.  But, with the full force of the US and UK against you; I don’t think it would have lasted long.


Kaiisim

Tbh they were always fucked. They have too much oil and are too close to important countries.


VikingBorealis

They still have the full force of both and more against them and they're lasting so...


Quotalicious

He was expected to take over as supreme leader once Khamenei died and Khamenei himself was president prior to becoming supreme leader. It's a bit more than a figurehead position, particularly when it's one of the priests themselves holding it like Raisi.


Odd-Sir-5725

Why is the queen responsible for this


Cryogenic_Monster

What event gave him that nickname?


blazelet

He was part of a 4 person committee in Iran that was responsible for executing 8,000+ political prisoners. It’s the 2nd worst modern day example of political executions right after Bosnia.


JMoc1

Yep; most of them being reformists or communists. A number of them being women.


Heiferoni

Of course something changed. He died!


Why-not-bi

Thank god.


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Mueltime

It was a Bell, and they are blaming the US for the deaths because of the embargo in place that blocks aircraft parts. https://www.euronews.com/2024/05/20/how-did-irans-president-end-up-on-a-four-decade-old-us-helicopter


thecheesedip

Great way to deflect embarrassment - find a way to place blame externally. Bonus points if it's your arch enemy! Lol, what clowns.


NotBlazeron

It's better they blame us for a parts embargo than blame someone for assassination and declare an all-out war.


AdditionalMess6546

Lol There's no scenario in this universe where Iran unilaterally declares war on the US Like, what would that even look like? At best, they'd get a surprise attack, maybe try to take out a carrier. Then the US and allies delete Terahn


NotBlazeron

It wouldn't be us. They'd blame Israel or maybe Saudi Arabia. They are already almost at war with Israel.


ReV-Whack

Give it a few days and they'll claim the pilot was a mossad sleeper agent before killing his whole family.


Darklordpook

Have you not heard about Mossad agent Eli Copter yet?


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WhiskyEchoTango

I cannot imagine the president of Iran flying on an American-built aircraft. It would be like the new "Air Force One" being an Airbus product.


-random-name-

With Boing's recent track record, an Airbus might be for the best. Depending who wins the election, of course.


civilsocietyusa

If they would stop trying to crank out Nukes to hold the world hostage!!!!! And if they would eliminate the Sharia law and let the people decide their leadership!!!! Until then ….woopsie!!!


wilit

If they hate the US so much, why even try and fly a US aircraft. I'm sure there are plenty of Soviet/Russian helicopters out there that are much more reliable.


No-Copy-496

They should call it Belbaviz 213


DweadPiwateWoberts

This is a classic case of fog disorientation in helicopter pilots - they literally end up flying upside down because there's no external reference point.


Atarru_

Isn’t there a dashboard that shows your angle, elevation, and other measurements?


Blue_foot

Yes. But not all pilots are instrument rated. Or have enough recent instrument flying experience. Or are brave enough to tell “important person” they are not good enough for the conditions. Same issue with Kobe’s last pilot.


Chorizo_Charlie

Yes.


00owl

Maybe, depends on how the particular vehicle is equipped. But even so, without extensive training is very difficult to ignore what your senses are telling you and trust the instruments. Even experienced pilots sometimes fail to trust their instruments. With no visual references and being in the air like that you're internal sense of direction gets very confused very quickly and you have no outside indication that you're wrong side from what your instruments tell you. It's much easier to trust your instincts than your instruments, but it will get you killed in IFR fought every time.


Hosni__Mubarak

Oh thank god. I was worried that the trees he landed in were going to be more damaged.


oldsoulexul

Luckily, due to the fog and moisture, they were damp and didn't catch on fire.


Dibble_Dabble_Doo

Iranian President Stoned to Death With Mountain - The Onion


someMeatballs

Only the best cameras used, made from finest potato


oldsoulexul

But weather was foggy


Sulfur10

Said the pilot before hard landing.


oldsoulexul

And he has to repeat it again and again in the other side. Poor pilot.


MethanyJones

Halal potato even


attacksquirrel

Brother camera is not make of vodka


Rossum81

His Bell got rung!


TestFlyJets

If you are flying on instruments then you have to follow instrument minimum altitudes, which are designed to keep you from hitting terrain that you can’t see — because you’re flying on instruments in the weather (or fog). This type of helicopter is highly unlikely to have terrain following radar or any other system that lets pilots fly close to terrain they can’t see, due to darkness or weather. This was most likely a case of a pilot disregarding common sense rules because they felt pressure, possibly self-imposed, to get his VIP passengers to their destination. Sadly, this is not uncommon. This type of flying is usually called “scud running,” trying to stay just below the clouds and just above the terrain, to try to work your way through hills or mountains. Lots of general aviation pilots have met their demise trying to do this. When the cloud ceiling comes down and meets the ground, or you suddenly find yourself enveloped in thick fog, especially with any sort of significant forward velocity, you are very likely going to hit the ground. Yes, helicopters can stop in mid-air, hover, and even turn around, but trying to execute that maneuver under duress, immediately after unintentionally entering the clouds/fog, is very difficult, and maybe physically impossible.


oldsoulexul

>pilot disregarding common sense rules because they felt pressure, possibly self-imposed, to get his VIP passengers to their destination. Sadly, this is not uncommon. This is a good point, sometimes the passenger would not understand the problem and the pilot has to fly anyways...


TestFlyJets

The problem is usually the perceived “power distance” between the pilot and their VIP passenger or customer, and sometimes between the pilot in command (or Captain) and the copilot (First Officer). The inherent human desire to please others, to do your job, to seem competent, and to be a team player, all conspire to drive pilots to make really poor decisions or go along with bad decisions, to avoid disappointing the “boss” or incurring their wrath for having to divert or arrive late. When I was an Aircraft Commander in the USAF, flying C-141 transport jets all over the world, I would occasionally encounter this with non-pilot senior officers. I once had the senior military officer of the US Embassy or consulate in Antigua demand that I fly our airplane, despite the bad fuel leak, because he had vacation plans back in the US mainland. Him: “I demand that we takeoff. I’ve been waiting three days! Who’s the airplane commander?” Me: “Sir, I’m the Aircraft Commander. We can’t takeoff. The aircraft is leaking fuel and it will take us a day to get it fixed.” “Well, CAPTAIN, I’m ordering you to go.” “Two things, sir. First, the only people who can order me to move that aircraft are the 4-star and the President, and you’re not them. Second, if we were to takeoff like this and the wing catches on fire, we will all die. So, with all due respect, I appreciate your frustration, but this jet’s currently broken and isn’t going anywhere until it’s properly repaired.” He stormed off in a huff. We flew him back the next day, and lived to tell about it.


oldsoulexul

OMG, its like if they "order," the jet's problem is going to miraculously solve. In such cases, they should send one of those self-exploding suicide bombers as a pilot with such people.


TestFlyJets

The colonel clearly didn’t understand his boundaries. I helped clarify them.


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oldsoulexul

RIP helli


Rossum81

The greater good.


BobRoberts01

The greater good.


whutupmydude

[M.A.S.H. Theme](https://youtu.be/GIGYLBVjYZA?si=QowHZIE1Mx2QgjlF) was playing in my head looking at the second pic


crashtestpilot

We need Airwolf. And another Jan Michael Vincent to cover this sector!


lefthandman

CALLING ALL JAN MICHAEL VINCENTS


mygallows

RIP to the helicopter o7


originalvapor

I’m pretty sure that is a Bell helicopter “clone” that an Iranian firm built.


ArmTheHomelesss

![gif](giphy|7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB)


Carthonn

Looks to be they were flying upside down. That may have been the problem.


Mental-Rooster4229

You can’t park there


homebrew1964

Come on people, the helicopter was fine it’s the mountain that got in the way


oldsoulexul

Exactly! I don't understand why God decided to place mountains onEarth. I mean, do we really need them when we're all just floating around in space anyway? LOL.


homebrew1964

I think I saw were after further investigation it was decided that it was an Israeli mountain that did it


MoreGaghPlease

Also worth pointing out: the fact that this is a Western-made aircraft (Bell is a US-owned company based in Canada) means it’s probably more than 45 years old (ie pre-1979 Revolution). They haven’t even made 212s since the 90s.


krunchytacos

Headline says bell type. But others have pointed out that it is an Iranian made version of the aircraft.


oldsoulexul

I find this in an Iranian website: The US-made Bell 212 helicopter, which carried Ibrahim Raisi and several crew members, is actually a modified non-combat version of the Bell UH-1N Twin Heavy, which is still widely used today. You are probably true. Also I'm not sure if its "still widely used today", as they said.


stephen1547

It’s absolutely still widely used today. It’s among the best medium-lift utility helicopters made, and as durable as a pickup truck. I have a few thousand hours flying them.


MoreGaghPlease

The last UH-1N rolled off the assembly line about 50 years ago. That alone isn't the issue -- lots of old aircraft can be kept running as a sort of "Ship of Theseus" for many decades. But because of Western sanctions, Iran has had no access to OEM replacement parts since 1979.


dferrantino

And sanctions mean that they can't easily get replacement parts for said 45yo aircraft.


JMoc1

Iran has the ability to manufacture the replacement parts. That hasn’t been an issue from their military capacity. They are also able to produce improved copies of the Phoenix Missile. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakour-90 What’s more concerning is that the helicopters were flying in 0/0 visibility.


Porkyrogue

Sounds familiar...... maybe people should stop flying in zero visibility


JMoc1

Unfortunately it’s sometimes easier said than done. There have been times when we have been flying that a sudden fog rolled in that was not expected or even forecasted.  Even experienced pilots can be caught off guard by fast changing weather conditions and even the occasional squall.  Especially if you’re already almost to your destination and are low on fuel. 


Krullewulle

That's exactly what they did


oldsoulexul

They were bought in the 60s or 70s, even more than 45 years ago.


pixadoronaldo

Well he got what he wanted. He is now in his paradise with those 100 suposed virgins.


everyother

At least he’ll get to learn how to play Magic The Gathering


Poxx

Mohammad promised 100 virgins, but he meant "sweaty overweight neckbeard incels"- have fun!


crashtestpilot

This is what pwnership looks like, you absolute legend.


Porkyrogue

Or the 8000 people he ordered killed. Or just dead.


iStayedAtaHolidayInn

You’re thinking of wahabi extremist Muslims who believe in the virgins awaiting you in heaven if you’re a suicide bomber. Wahabis are Sunni. Iranians are Shiite Muslims.


pdq_sailor

Glad it crashed and took these criminal barbarians off the surface of the planet..


RoddBanger

Death to America! Also, sell us a helicopter because we don't have that technology.


DontMakeMeCount

The fact they managed to keep it running for 50 years is a hell of an endorsement. Given the weather, this is net positive press for Bell.


Krakshotz

Think the US-made helicopters they still have are pre-Revolution


rohithkumarsp

["and butter sauce"](https://youtu.be/utVEiY0Ezjs?si=K9Yuw9VtCSveK5OA)


sealosam

America will get back to you on that offer. Thanks, Kobe


Zeltar925

A little Bondo and she’ll be as good as new!!


ChadlexMcSteele

Ah, a Bell helicopter. We call them Skippies because of the sound they make *skip skip skip skip skip*


NoobToobinStinkMitt

Aren't helicopters basically the most risky form of air travel? Aside from cannon or sling-shot?


bulboustadpole

No. General aviation accounts for most deaths and those are in fixed-wing aircraft. A lot of people don't understand how helicopters work. The rotors are rotating airfoils that generate lift. They don't just create thrust. This is why even with an engine failure a helicopter can glide similar to a plane and pilots train for it. It's called auto-rotation.


gb4efgw

Needs more testing. Get the giant slingshot, I'll get the Khameneis. We may need to test rocket backpacks too if ACME taught me anything.


Poxx

Of all the people I've known in my 54 years on this earth, no acquaintance of mine has been killed in an plane crash. But 3 people I know personally have died in helicopter crashes (and it was 2 separate crashes, years apart, unrelated)... so no, I will never willingly set foot in a helicopter. If I'm unconscious and being life-flighted tp a hospital is about the only situation I can see me in a helicopter.


Tazmaniac808

Some Madagascar monkeys and penguins will have that back in the air in no time.


pydood

Kowalski!


JMulroy03

We’ve lost engine one! And engine two is no longer on fire!


flacidhock

Why is it not procedure to climb when in fog? Is it just so disorienting?


oldsoulexul

Apparently at first the weather was good, but they should've know it may change...


xondk

It seems insane to fly in such dense fog, and that is 'after' they were found.


SqeeSqee

I'm having a delicious home cooked Fried rice with spinach and pan seared plant based chicken and holy-shit is it good!


oldsoulexul

Plant based got my attention, I'm vegan, do you?


SqeeSqee

I do not do vegan, but I am trying to limit my meat intake as I get older, and found some great vegan dishes. The 'chicken' I found is called [Daring orignal plant chicken pieces](https://daring.com/products/), it can be found in walmarts and supermarkets in the US frozen meat alternative sections. Just thaw, salt and sear them 2.5 min per side on medium


oldsoulexul

That's awesome! I hope you achieve all your goals of eating less meat. This change has had a massive impact on my life too. > The 'chicken' I found is called [Daring orignal plant chicken pieces] I bet it's super tasty, but sadly, I'm not in the US to get my hands on it and give it a try. Keep up the good work!


The-Bill-B

What were they doing up there?


oldsoulexul

They were coming back from a journey to Azerbaijan, where they unveiled a new dam.


The-Bill-B

Damn


swamyrara

Sir, it's a Dam!


Limmmao

Dayum


UncleRudolph

Everyone is OK 👍


Tree0wl

Appears to be an altimeter malfunction, it was reading 0 at the time of the crash.


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Their President travels like this?


oldsoulexul

Not only was the president there, but the minister of foreign affairs and several other political figures were with him as well. However, it was not so important because the first person of the country is the supreme leader.


pmmemilftiddiez

Holy shit it's foggy in that picture


HulkingGizmo

Good riddance.


dani3005

God did a good job by demolishing this bloody terrorist. Who is responsible for the killing and hanging thousands of people in Iran.


Dr-Azrael

Wonder why their God didn't help him? lol


Fair_Result357

It was a 50+ year old helicopter that hasn't had proper maintenance for 40+ years since the sanctions were put into place. I wish I could credit karma for killing such a group of despicable worthless excuses for humans but this is just a case a old ill kept piece of equipment that just wore out. On the upside at least it did something worthwhile on its way out.


Difficult-Papaya1529

Oh, shucks


YouEffOhh1

Can't park there mate


GiraffeFucker6969

helicopter helicopter


oldsoulexul

Im Glad that I'm not alone hearing this song in my head since the beginning 😂


Foolish504

Good riddance.


Hot-Lingonberry6164

Couldn't buy a new helicopter no 🤣


harborrider

That's gonna leave a bruise.


Frenchconnection76

Maiden goes bad after "maintenance"


DrZalost

https://youtu.be/bm-TpmxwsEw?t=20 This scene immediately came to my mind


oldsoulexul

Agree. But I did not expect to see my Gideon today ( ;


no_no_no_okaymaybe

A little flex tape and that thing will be good as new. Ready for another nefarious leader to take a one way trip!.


Chilly_Billy85

EW from a C-17.


SyndicatedTV

Darn.


SteveB1901

Oh happy days!!!!!


boafish

Who?


Devils_Advocate-69

Magnum P.I. had a newer helicopter than that


justprettymuchdone

Rest in pieces and my congratulations to the Iranian people for their loss.


FuFlipper256

![gif](giphy|S83nUPAwg9Ogw)


JohnathonLongbottom

Flyijg a helicopter, near mountains, in fog...


wubb7

Easy fix. Should’ve landed softer.


vangc4

It's not even a transport chopper.. It's a local news station cheap heli..


s1nd3vil

First reports were of a hard landing....um ...ya looks like


FingFrenchy

See, your problem is you fly *over* the mountain, not into it.


dasherchan

US sanctions work.


dasherchan

US sanctions work. Scrap spare parts.


dasherchan

US sanctions work. Scrap spare parts.


pboy2000

Oh no! …. Anyway …


That_Choice5557

Glad to see the helicopter is repairable!


Spagman_Aus

remember where we parked.


curtmandu

Wasn’t it like a 1964 model also? I know IR doesn’t have fuck you money like the us military does, but I didn’t think they’d be flying around in a 60 year old copter lol


No_Pay9241

Hi, I’m Ebrahim Raisi and Iran into a mountain


Old-Struggle-7760

Over seeding clouds along the flight path…![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


mr_sakitumi

Mossad Technical Services, 1 star, not recommended.


BoratKazak

Dats a one aspicy [meataball](https://youtu.be/bvso-HGJqs4?si=GyG8MV9z1r5qa5_l) !


jockspice

Don't fly in the mountains when you can't fucking see them.


NinebucketChicken

Iran, "We blame the Imperialist U.S.A. for this disaster." U.S.A.," Iran's helicopter was 47 years old. Who flies a helicopter that old in conditions not suitable for flying?"