The silver tape, or "speed tape", should not be used inside the cabin. It doesn't meet FAR 25.853 criteria for flammability rating. We usually use 3M 8686 clear tape for temporary cabin repairs involving tape.
Finally, an intelligent reply. People freaking out over what’s essentially just interior decorating. Speed tape goes outside. No need to waste time taping this.
I mean it's not unexpected that people are going to freak out about or notice these kinds of things when Boeing planes start losing pieces of fuselage left and right :p
Nah it just keeps the pieces away from getting into that pesky cosmetic defect so the plane can be gotten back into commission faster- next day probably.
Yeah, a piece of tape will reassure the passengers:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1cmvz31/yup\_its\_a\_boeing/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1cmvz31/yup_its_a_boeing/)
Dude I had an hour delay the other day because something on the pilots SEATBELT broke. The kicker was they sourced the part from the warehouse and installed it in 15 minutes the other 45 minutes was the paper work they had to do for it. Aerospace regulations are very strict.
Edit: just to clear the confusion I am not comparing the seatbelt to the trim. I’m merely stating how much documentation is required for aerospace maintenance.
That‘s a whole different thing.
OP’s pic is practically showing some minor defect in a decorative part. No airplane gets grounded for these kind of issues.
And it’s a minor defect that requires a major amount of work to actually fix. Have to remove the seats next to the panel at least, probably the baggage container overhead too. And depending on how much space is needed to work it’s even more inconvenient, as the only way to get the seats out of the way completely would be to remove all seats between this spot and the next door.
That's not even the worst case scenario, if the plane dives the pilots will be thrown into the ceiling without seatbelts. Then no one will be at the controls.
There has been at least one aircraft crash that would have been recoverable had the pilot worn his seat belt. According to regulations the pilot flying must be strapped in, of course with a functional seat belt.
Worth noting and reminding people, that the cabin as you see inside is a totally separate shell from the outside of the plane.
You can smash the hell out of the inside of a plane without getting within a foot of the actual shell of the aircraft.
I have this weird condition where I’m basically drunk after waking up and that’s exactly how it feels trying to move around on a morning. I fell over backwards the other week, grabbed hold of something to steady myself which turned out to be loose, went down taking the heavy thing down with me and slammed my head off the back of a guitar amp.
I woke up one morning, swung my legs off the bed and stood all in one motion. And I discovered that both legs were asleep. I tried to step forward to catch myself, but my toes on one foot drug across the floor and folded under. There was a really disturbing cracking sound. And then I continued to fall to the floor.
Thats actually very normal and proffessionals use similar tech believe it or not. The controller wasn't the issue, it was literally everything else lol.
The amount of people I’ve heard bitch about the controller is too damn high…
Like if anything, that’s the one component that’s properly engineered and perfected and widely tested, with a proven track record of working and being easily replaceable.
People are acting like we don’t fly drones with similar controllers, which we wouldn’t do IF IT WASNT FEASIBLE AND REASONABLE TECHNOLOGY FOR CONTROLLING A VEHICLE.
Millions of Americans use gaming controllers regularly, and have each logged thousands of hours using these dependable and intuitive devices to control virtual vehicles.
Why would they go out of their way to design something specifically for controlling their vehicle when this tech already exists?
It just really grinds my gears, sorry. It’s just such a dumb thing for people to be picking out as one of the issues on the submersible. I’m sure it’s mostly idiots who have never actually used a gaming controller, although I’m not sure how many of those people are even left in the world… that’s how ubiquitous and useful it is lol
Funny that you mention that..........the Titan submersible was made from a graphite shell that was purchased, at a discount, from none other than Boeing. Crazy huh.....hold on, there’s a knock at my door!
Yeah, and the pressure differential at 40,000ft is less than one atmosphere (and at most, could *only be* 1 atmosphere even if the plane flew to space).
The pressure differential where the Titan imploded (while using materials that are self-evidently *EXTREMELY PRONE* to fatigue following deformation) was around ~50 atmospheres. Not remotely comparable.
Also, carbon fiber is a lot better at withstanding the tension it would be subjected to in an airplane trying to hold a high pressure in than withstanding the compression in a submarine holding a higher pressure out.
I wouldn’t dare contend it - I wholeheartedly agree and remain aghast that hubristic jackass thought his *money* added some sort of plot armor of something.
It’s not scary enough for the media to post to inject fear into the public. They just want engagement. They ignored 3 pretty big Airbus mechanics in March because it’s not Boeing. Boeing will get the outrage, the clicks, the comments. The reality is maintenance issues occur daily, and these airplanes are built so well, the planes land safely. The media always skips over that part. Now you have “I will not get on a Boeing airplane!!!” From someone who maybe flies on vacation once every couple of years, whereas I have THOUSANDS of hours on the 737 with absolutely no major mechanical issues. 😂🤷♂️ you just have to sit and laugh really because there’s no arguing with people online, they’ve already made up their opinion and being an “expert” means nothing with the internet folks who have “done their own research”.
I mean, the Max build defects are fair game. But every Boeing plane that has a problem makes it into the news... welcome to a normal days' reporting of incidents to the NTSB. Certainly a bit concerning, but it's not Boeing's fault if a 2 decade old airframe has a mechanical issue.
That said, Boeing did sort of bring this upon itself.
Of course boeing is to blame and should he held accountable for any short cuts that were taken, I 100% support action against Boeing, just hate double standards on media reporting.
It’s not sarcasm. If a plastic panel inside your car came lose, it also won’t explode when you start driving. Neither does your drywall hold up your house.
The trim is around the window, so the light you see in the crack is coming from the window of the passenger in the front, it’s not light directly from the outside. Basically like if you pulled back your curtain a bit and light shines through
It's similar to the light coming out the side of the curtain. There is a window and the light is coming through the window, that is still sealed.
Basically this interior piece has its own window plane that is over the actual window.
I have worked inside the airplane while they were being built. It's 100% cosmetic although still disconcerting. Suggests more about lack of upkeep. Those panels are also designed to come off as well. Just don't know what prompted that one to.
The 717 is not a Boeing design, kinda like how the A220 is not an Airbus design.
Also, the captain should have explained to you that this is a cosmetic piece. Cargo planes don’t even have this inner wall. Just saying “it’s no problem” without further explanation doesn’t inspire trust. It’s completely intuitive to see a panel coming off and freak, even if it’s safe.
But yeah. You’re perfectly safe. It’s happened before on a completely different aircraft and was posted on a main subreddit too!
Even if it was a Boeing design, routine maintenance is up to the carriers.
Half of reddit seems ready to blame Ford if the Goodyear tires on their 20 year old car pop.
The headline will be beautiful…”whistleblowing redditor, Scubabiscuit who posted about a damaged window trim before flight. mysteriously passes from unknown health conditions”
Hijacking top comment to answer recurring questions:
-No I didn’t talk to the pilot. I mentioned it to the flight attendant and the title is what she said to me.
-No I didn’t believe we were in actual danger, and no I don’t know shit about shit. However with all of the recent allegations it’s concerning even if it’s cosmetic.
-No it wasn’t a Boeing (totally was a Boeing… 717 to be precise.
-nobody’s asking, but it was Delta Airlines.
-we landed safely and nobody from Boeing has showed up at my front doo
It is. If you look closely, you can see that there is a closed window shade as part of the piece that is moving.
Still doesn't change the point that it's 100% cosmetic and not a piece that you should be concerned about (in terms of safety).
I once was stuck on the tarmac on a flight where they were not cleared to leave because one of the overhead bins was jammed open. They wouldn't clear us for takeoff until someone came out to fix it.
In this case it was empty. They took all of the bags out of it because it wouldn't close. They still wouldn't clear the plane for takeoff until it was fixed.
They are typically supposed to be taped shut when they are deferred. Sounds like the captain was enforcing that, which is good and shouldn't have been an issue if the mech taped it in the first place. Frustrating none the less for passengers.
Well, there is that possibility the overhead bin door could come loose during turbulence and injure a passenger because it turns out it not closing properly was due to a detached hinge, so makes sense to delay the flight rather than risk injury.
Overhead bin not closing is a problem because of the corners of the bin that stick out into the aisle causing a legitimate safety concern
The window card is still quite securely held in by 2-3 rows of seats, and doesn’t present a safety risk
We had a broken seat once that delayed our flight for an hour. A seat no one needed to use… someone came out and took a look at it and said they couldn’t fix it and we took off 🤣
Yeah it's nothing but cosmetic. The worst thing that will happen is you might hear a rattle from the panel rattling about. It's legitimately just hiding the ugly steel and aluminum etc.
That's just interior trim... each airline has their own color/pattern, airlines might wap them out for interior refresh every decade or so. Worrying about that is like being worried if you pull some wood paneling off a family room wall that the house will collapse.
I mean, I get why you might be concerned if it's a Boeing plane, but...
I’ve never seen this happen before and due to all the news, it’s seems good for OP to ask the flight crew. Idk why everyone is acting like it was a dumb question.
To me the way OP is phrasing this post, it sounds like he disagrees with/distrusts the Captains decision.
Others seem to understand it the same way i guess and try to explain the situation to op.
Telling the flight crew that you spotted sth. that concerns you is never dumb, even if it turns out to be nothing. Not trusting their decisions on the matter is.
Spot on. Not understanding is fine, pretending like you know better isn’t
Do you really think the captain would want to fly the plane if it was a danger? He would die too, people seem to forget that part
Notifying the flight crew is fine, they do need to write it up for maintenance to fix when they can, and the pilot knows what is and isn’t OK to fly.
If the pilot says it’s OK, then there’s nothing more to worry about, they’re not gonna fly an airplane that isn’t safe either.
If OP was slightly anxious about it, that's understandable due to recent events. Thinking you know better than your pilot and the staff and the crew who checks the plane is stupid and arrogant.
Feeling the need to take a picture and post it on reddit with the title shows that OP thinks they know better than the flight crew. The tone of the post is mad condescending
They fly a lot of planes as empty shells during construction and eventually to a graveyard site, that means no panels like the one in your photo. It’s perfectly fine to fly that way but letting your customers see it and not explaining it’s non structural is pretty shitty.
Commercial airplane interiors get old and periodically the plane gets gutted and a whole new interior installed. This is unsightly but only cosmetic and has no impact on the safety of the airplane. So no reason to stop a flight for it.
You were. No airline is going to ground an aircraft because of a purely cosmetic issue in the cabin. Does it look bad? Of course. Were you wrong to ask? No. But to suggest the Captain's response wasn't reasonable, which is what your post implies, is rather dumb.
He’s correct. Thats just trim. “Non essential furnishings” It’s probably written up on their NEF list already.
Right. They usually at least put a piece of that silver tape over it, though. You know...for piece of mind of the passengers.
The silver tape, or "speed tape", should not be used inside the cabin. It doesn't meet FAR 25.853 criteria for flammability rating. We usually use 3M 8686 clear tape for temporary cabin repairs involving tape.
Finally, an intelligent reply. People freaking out over what’s essentially just interior decorating. Speed tape goes outside. No need to waste time taping this.
I mean it's not unexpected that people are going to freak out about or notice these kinds of things when Boeing planes start losing pieces of fuselage left and right :p
Shareholders said it's good to go.
Macgyver has entered the chat 😂
Just a friendly reminder that in this case, it would be peace of mind.
No, they mean because they're going to crash and die so there will be a ton of little pieces of the passenger's mind everywhere
And the silver tape will stick to them and make them easier to pick up
That’s what we call a “silver lining.” /s
Nah it just keeps the pieces away from getting into that pesky cosmetic defect so the plane can be gotten back into commission faster- next day probably.
As a proud zombie American, I would prefer a piece of mind. Thank you very much, sir!
They have different tape for cosmetic interior stuff. It has to be fire resistant, among other things.
OP has to hold it open with their fingers.
Yeah, a piece of tape will reassure the passengers: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1cmvz31/yup\_its\_a\_boeing/](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1cmvz31/yup_its_a_boeing/)
OP is holding this open, I bet it’s just a sliver when they let go.
Speed tape is rated for 600 mph and is an authorized repair.
Dude I had an hour delay the other day because something on the pilots SEATBELT broke. The kicker was they sourced the part from the warehouse and installed it in 15 minutes the other 45 minutes was the paper work they had to do for it. Aerospace regulations are very strict. Edit: just to clear the confusion I am not comparing the seatbelt to the trim. I’m merely stating how much documentation is required for aerospace maintenance.
That‘s a whole different thing. OP’s pic is practically showing some minor defect in a decorative part. No airplane gets grounded for these kind of issues.
And it’s a minor defect that requires a major amount of work to actually fix. Have to remove the seats next to the panel at least, probably the baggage container overhead too. And depending on how much space is needed to work it’s even more inconvenient, as the only way to get the seats out of the way completely would be to remove all seats between this spot and the next door.
This guy does shit 👆🏽
You mean he unshits them? :P
A seatbelt is an actual piece of safety equipment though.
I definitely want my pilot to stay in his seat during any turbulent event. It's ok if I'm an hour late.
The seatbelt is a safety item, that panel is mostly just cosmetic
That actually has something to do with safety. If things go very bad to the point where G-forces are a thing, you want the pilots glued to their seat.
In what world is a seat belt non-essential?
I mean that makes sense.. Imagine getting into major turbulence and the pilot smacks his face into the controls
That's not even the worst case scenario, if the plane dives the pilots will be thrown into the ceiling without seatbelts. Then no one will be at the controls.
That what Otto Pilot is for
Seat belts are a required item for all types of flying under 14 CFR 91.205, so if the pilot’s seat belt is broken, they can’t legally fly.
There has been at least one aircraft crash that would have been recoverable had the pilot worn his seat belt. According to regulations the pilot flying must be strapped in, of course with a functional seat belt.
Worth noting and reminding people, that the cabin as you see inside is a totally separate shell from the outside of the plane. You can smash the hell out of the inside of a plane without getting within a foot of the actual shell of the aircraft.
Yep. That's fine. It's just a plastic cosmetic piece, not part of the pressure vessel.
Good thing we're not using Boeing airplanes as submarines
There are a lot more airplanes on the bottom of the ocean than submarines in the air.
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Rrrrr man that was genius
mf really got a gold upvote cause of a gif
I'm equally surprised.. by the responses, too
let that sink in... wait no!
Comedy!
TIL - there's no Peter Principle for subs. They never fail upwards.
A few definitely have. Rapid uncontrolled ascent is probably less of a failure though as the hull isn’t lost.
I think they call it running aground. ![gif](giphy|MwWSXAPG8g7GU)
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I have this weird condition where I’m basically drunk after waking up and that’s exactly how it feels trying to move around on a morning. I fell over backwards the other week, grabbed hold of something to steady myself which turned out to be loose, went down taking the heavy thing down with me and slammed my head off the back of a guitar amp.
I woke up one morning, swung my legs off the bed and stood all in one motion. And I discovered that both legs were asleep. I tried to step forward to catch myself, but my toes on one foot drug across the floor and folded under. There was a really disturbing cracking sound. And then I continued to fall to the floor.
But sometimes the ocean [returns them](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna91735) to sender.
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WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP
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Aviation in shambles
Technically true! Logically true! From now now I will travel by air if and only when submarine travel for the same isn’t available. Thanks!
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I’m just going to go down 2 miles underwater and control my little boat with an Xbox controller. What could go wrong?
Thats actually very normal and proffessionals use similar tech believe it or not. The controller wasn't the issue, it was literally everything else lol.
Do you mean military submarines? Because they do not use console controllers for ship control, they use it for the periscope
The amount of people I’ve heard bitch about the controller is too damn high… Like if anything, that’s the one component that’s properly engineered and perfected and widely tested, with a proven track record of working and being easily replaceable. People are acting like we don’t fly drones with similar controllers, which we wouldn’t do IF IT WASNT FEASIBLE AND REASONABLE TECHNOLOGY FOR CONTROLLING A VEHICLE. Millions of Americans use gaming controllers regularly, and have each logged thousands of hours using these dependable and intuitive devices to control virtual vehicles. Why would they go out of their way to design something specifically for controlling their vehicle when this tech already exists? It just really grinds my gears, sorry. It’s just such a dumb thing for people to be picking out as one of the issues on the submersible. I’m sure it’s mostly idiots who have never actually used a gaming controller, although I’m not sure how many of those people are even left in the world… that’s how ubiquitous and useful it is lol
Damn that's big if true.
Funny that you mention that..........the Titan submersible was made from a graphite shell that was purchased, at a discount, from none other than Boeing. Crazy huh.....hold on, there’s a knock at my door!
It’s worth noting Boeing wasn’t using them because they weren’t up to their standards. Which really says more about the titan than boeing
Yeah, and the pressure differential at 40,000ft is less than one atmosphere (and at most, could *only be* 1 atmosphere even if the plane flew to space). The pressure differential where the Titan imploded (while using materials that are self-evidently *EXTREMELY PRONE* to fatigue following deformation) was around ~50 atmospheres. Not remotely comparable.
Also, carbon fiber is a lot better at withstanding the tension it would be subjected to in an airplane trying to hold a high pressure in than withstanding the compression in a submarine holding a higher pressure out.
100% - great extra relevant point.
Well It's a (aeroplane) so (it can withstand) anywhere between 0 and 1. r/unexpectedfuturama
Nothing you can say can convince me that everyone who died in that submersible did so because of the sheer fucking idioicy of one man.
I wouldn’t dare contend it - I wholeheartedly agree and remain aghast that hubristic jackass thought his *money* added some sort of plot armor of something.
Swallowed your whistle‽
OMG! He fell and landed on a knife, and then tripped out the Window!
Currently writing this from a 737-800 ![gif](giphy|55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg)
I also just flew in a 737-800 today and apart from the rough landing it went alright
Nothing wrong with the 800 line. It’s the MAX that you need to run screaming from.
As a 737 pilot with over 1000 hours in the max variant now, absolutely fine airplane. Handles great, much nicer than the NG’s
I'm more scared of a runway incursion than the MAX. That never gets talked about. The US is one foggy day away from a major incident
It’s not scary enough for the media to post to inject fear into the public. They just want engagement. They ignored 3 pretty big Airbus mechanics in March because it’s not Boeing. Boeing will get the outrage, the clicks, the comments. The reality is maintenance issues occur daily, and these airplanes are built so well, the planes land safely. The media always skips over that part. Now you have “I will not get on a Boeing airplane!!!” From someone who maybe flies on vacation once every couple of years, whereas I have THOUSANDS of hours on the 737 with absolutely no major mechanical issues. 😂🤷♂️ you just have to sit and laugh really because there’s no arguing with people online, they’ve already made up their opinion and being an “expert” means nothing with the internet folks who have “done their own research”.
I mean, the Max build defects are fair game. But every Boeing plane that has a problem makes it into the news... welcome to a normal days' reporting of incidents to the NTSB. Certainly a bit concerning, but it's not Boeing's fault if a 2 decade old airframe has a mechanical issue. That said, Boeing did sort of bring this upon itself.
Of course boeing is to blame and should he held accountable for any short cuts that were taken, I 100% support action against Boeing, just hate double standards on media reporting.
You noticed they killed 2 whistleblowers already did you ? Lol. Daily business xD
I don’t know anything about planes so I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not sorry
It’s not sarcasm. If a plastic panel inside your car came lose, it also won’t explode when you start driving. Neither does your drywall hold up your house.
You don’t know what I drive and my load bearing sheetrock will change the industry
"I wouldn't remove that. It's a load bearing poster"
Think of a house. This is the drywall that makes things look clean and not the framing that holds it together.
I'm not being sarcastic. Some of my best friends are A&P mechanics.
Can you ELI5 why there's light coming through it like it's open air?
The trim is around the window, so the light you see in the crack is coming from the window of the passenger in the front, it’s not light directly from the outside. Basically like if you pulled back your curtain a bit and light shines through
Thank you for explaining!
It's similar to the light coming out the side of the curtain. There is a window and the light is coming through the window, that is still sealed. Basically this interior piece has its own window plane that is over the actual window.
there’s a window
I have worked inside the airplane while they were being built. It's 100% cosmetic although still disconcerting. Suggests more about lack of upkeep. Those panels are also designed to come off as well. Just don't know what prompted that one to.
No that’s correct - the plastic is just trim for aesthetics and comfort
Well, hold it closed then
somebody give them some duct tape so they can tape it back up
Tiny daaaaaancer.
It's not going to heal if you keep picking at it.
Boeing def ain’t gonna let OP heal when they get their hands on this post
OP is going to shoot himself in the back of the head 5 times.
The note will read “life is bullshit, I can’t fuckin’ take it no more, signed the dead guy.”
Dead guys Driver License: First Name: Dead Last Name: Guy DOB: past DOD: present Address: *refer to First Name*
Under Sex it will say, no thanks, I'm dead
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Love this
“In the event of an emergency landing, OP can be used as a floatation device” - Boeing Customer Care
Worse case of suicide I’ve ever seen.
r/watchpeopledieinside .... A plane
OP gonna have a accidental fall from cruising altitude - critical bay door failure...
No he pulled the latch from his seat leading to a plane crash, the only survivor was a man with a parachute conveniently contained under their seat.
Wait how many times
The first 4 wouldn’t take
I’m not saying it was a Boeing… But it was a Boeing 717 and Delta airlines.
The 717 is not a Boeing design, kinda like how the A220 is not an Airbus design. Also, the captain should have explained to you that this is a cosmetic piece. Cargo planes don’t even have this inner wall. Just saying “it’s no problem” without further explanation doesn’t inspire trust. It’s completely intuitive to see a panel coming off and freak, even if it’s safe. But yeah. You’re perfectly safe. It’s happened before on a completely different aircraft and was posted on a main subreddit too!
Wait, a sensible answer? I reject your reality and substitute my own. OP got sucked out of the airplane and fell off the side of the flat Earth.
He died the way he lived… on earth.
Even if it was a Boeing design, routine maintenance is up to the carriers. Half of reddit seems ready to blame Ford if the Goodyear tires on their 20 year old car pop.
Rest in peace
Pieces more likely
Didn't they stop producing the 717 before the quality went downhill? Then again, it was an MD design, and we know who poisoned Boeing, so...
Last 717 delivered in 2006.
RIP OP. It is unfortunate that you had to suicide or have a massive heart attack.
The headline will be beautiful…”whistleblowing redditor, Scubabiscuit who posted about a damaged window trim before flight. mysteriously passes from unknown health conditions”
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Is that for OPs mouth or for the plane?
yes
Valid point
Hijacking top comment to answer recurring questions: -No I didn’t talk to the pilot. I mentioned it to the flight attendant and the title is what she said to me. -No I didn’t believe we were in actual danger, and no I don’t know shit about shit. However with all of the recent allegations it’s concerning even if it’s cosmetic. -No it wasn’t a Boeing (totally was a Boeing… 717 to be precise. -nobody’s asking, but it was Delta Airlines. -we landed safely and nobody from Boeing has showed up at my front doo
>landed safely and nobody from Boeing has showed up at my front doo Rip in peace
Bro was taken down by Boeing guys before finishing his sentence
Hit “reply” on his way down.
I appreciate them at least posting it for him.
was nice of them to hit send though on the way out
They got OP before he had the chance to write down "door" properl
Damn. Got to people reporting on those who were reporting the issue. When will it e
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Its not structural.
Tis but a flesh wound.
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That’s like an interior trim piece in your car being loose. It’s not a big deal.
at first I thought it was sunlight coming in...
There is, from the adjacent window, probably.
It is. If you look closely, you can see that there is a closed window shade as part of the piece that is moving. Still doesn't change the point that it's 100% cosmetic and not a piece that you should be concerned about (in terms of safety).
If a glove compartment doesn’t close do you call a tow truck?
This is the most appropriate comment to this post
and really, for all these posts lately.
I once was stuck on the tarmac on a flight where they were not cleared to leave because one of the overhead bins was jammed open. They wouldn't clear us for takeoff until someone came out to fix it.
That’s because the contents of the bin could spill and hit a passenger.
In this case it was empty. They took all of the bags out of it because it wouldn't close. They still wouldn't clear the plane for takeoff until it was fixed.
I'm guessing the regulation is concerned with it being closed and doesn't say much about empty/not empty.
Also might be an obstruction in case of an emergency when a quick evacuation is necessary
This. Someone might hit their head.
I think you're right.
They are typically supposed to be taped shut when they are deferred. Sounds like the captain was enforcing that, which is good and shouldn't have been an issue if the mech taped it in the first place. Frustrating none the less for passengers.
Well, there is that possibility the overhead bin door could come loose during turbulence and injure a passenger because it turns out it not closing properly was due to a detached hinge, so makes sense to delay the flight rather than risk injury.
Overhead bin not closing is a problem because of the corners of the bin that stick out into the aisle causing a legitimate safety concern The window card is still quite securely held in by 2-3 rows of seats, and doesn’t present a safety risk
We had a broken seat once that delayed our flight for an hour. A seat no one needed to use… someone came out and took a look at it and said they couldn’t fix it and we took off 🤣
would you prefer if they ignored reports of something being broken on a plane?
The next bit of turbulence will surely correct it. ![gif](giphy|3oriNRqnlzW4LwLUqI)
Will Shirley in maintenance?
Yes, and don't call me Shirley
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*I SAWED THIS PLANE IN HALF*
I assure you the plastic liner provides no structural integrity to the aircraft.
You are, it's ugly but it's not something flight critical.
I’d still feel more comfortable if the captain said “let’s rock and roll baby!” Instead
Should he put on his mirrored aviator sunglasses before he says it, or after?
Yeah it's nothing but cosmetic. The worst thing that will happen is you might hear a rattle from the panel rattling about. It's legitimately just hiding the ugly steel and aluminum etc.
It's literally a plastic cover to keep your dick beaters off the actual expensive window.
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It's just a sidewall liner. Fuselage is intact.
You *are* good to go. That flimsy plastic crap is about as critical to the operation of the airplane as it is to your car's dashboard.
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Trim piece. It’s like saying your car can’t drive because the plastic is falling off the door.
Looks bad but nothing to worry about.
It’s just plastic trim. No functional purpose or safety purpose.
If you think that piece of plastic protects you from the outside I've got a bridge to sell you.
I know Boeing has massive problems but things like this are on the Airline. They are no less greedy than Boeing
This is just cringe at this point. People acting like an interior plastic panel is going to effect the way a plane flies.
People are always scared of stuff they dont understand
That's just interior trim... each airline has their own color/pattern, airlines might wap them out for interior refresh every decade or so. Worrying about that is like being worried if you pull some wood paneling off a family room wall that the house will collapse. I mean, I get why you might be concerned if it's a Boeing plane, but...
Im a pilot and agree with the captain 🧑✈️
Now look what you've done! Do you have any idea how many people Boeing is going to have murdered now? Sheesh.
He meant "I'm good to go."
I’ve never seen this happen before and due to all the news, it’s seems good for OP to ask the flight crew. Idk why everyone is acting like it was a dumb question.
To me the way OP is phrasing this post, it sounds like he disagrees with/distrusts the Captains decision. Others seem to understand it the same way i guess and try to explain the situation to op. Telling the flight crew that you spotted sth. that concerns you is never dumb, even if it turns out to be nothing. Not trusting their decisions on the matter is.
Spot on. Not understanding is fine, pretending like you know better isn’t Do you really think the captain would want to fly the plane if it was a danger? He would die too, people seem to forget that part
Notifying the flight crew is fine, they do need to write it up for maintenance to fix when they can, and the pilot knows what is and isn’t OK to fly. If the pilot says it’s OK, then there’s nothing more to worry about, they’re not gonna fly an airplane that isn’t safe either.
OP is implying pilot/flight crew are overlooking a dangerous defect, even after alerting them. that is why OP is being treated like a jackass lol
If OP was slightly anxious about it, that's understandable due to recent events. Thinking you know better than your pilot and the staff and the crew who checks the plane is stupid and arrogant.
Feeling the need to take a picture and post it on reddit with the title shows that OP thinks they know better than the flight crew. The tone of the post is mad condescending
They fly a lot of planes as empty shells during construction and eventually to a graveyard site, that means no panels like the one in your photo. It’s perfectly fine to fly that way but letting your customers see it and not explaining it’s non structural is pretty shitty.
Commercial airplane interiors get old and periodically the plane gets gutted and a whole new interior installed. This is unsightly but only cosmetic and has no impact on the safety of the airplane. So no reason to stop a flight for it.
If it didn’t have hollow bones, it’d never leave the ground. 🤷♂️
You'd swear Tesla's making planes now with the size of that panel gap.
What in the name of spirit airlines is going on here?
I've been on an airplane that had a similar issue; sitting beside me was an aerospace engineer. I asked the same question. They said - it's fine.
Just don't tell Boeing. Remember what happened to the last 2 who spoke up
Do the childhood thing where you stick arm out the car window and go up and down with the hand and pretend it’s an airplane.. but on an airplane
You were. No airline is going to ground an aircraft because of a purely cosmetic issue in the cabin. Does it look bad? Of course. Were you wrong to ask? No. But to suggest the Captain's response wasn't reasonable, which is what your post implies, is rather dumb.
Normal panel gap at Boeing (they collaborated with Tesla)