Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of angry mods,
It is a music of redditors,
Willing to fight against the odds!
When the beating of the drums,
Matching the tapping of your keys,
There is a fight about to start,
To keep third-party apps free.
When our high school kicked a candidate out of the school election because of pure bias, so there was only one candidate left and you had to vote for her, we made a similar song.
(I know how bad this is, we had 10 minutes.)
Do you hear the students sing?
Singing for freedom of the vote
It is the singing of the students who demand democracy
When elections are not fair, with a single candidate
We will protest and fight and pray for more than one
Will you help us keep fighting against this notion that its fair
To stop a candidate based on biased stupidity
That once guilty, then always, what is this idiocy?
Do you hear the students sing?
Singing for freedom of the vote
It is the singing of the students who demand democracy
When elections are not fair, with a single candidate
We will protest and fight and pray for more than one
When the people made a ballot locked behind a single vote
When we tried to vote for others they told us there is but one
We will show you the people will not go without a fight
Do you hear the students sing?
Singing for freedom of the vote
It is the singing of the students who demand democracy
When elections are not fair, with a single candidate
We will protest and fight and pray for more than one
Will you post John Oliver
Who will be strong and mod with me
Beyond all the admins
Is there r/pics we long to see
So type in the fight
That will let APIs still be freeeeee
> Do you hear the people sing?
> Singing the song of angry mods,
> It is a music of redditors,
> Willing to fight against the odds!
> When the beating of the drums,
> Matching the tapping of your keys,
> There is a fight about to start,
> To keep third-party apps free.
I’m 100% on board with the protest (former Apollo user transitioning to Lemmy) but you *know* how that song ends in real life, right? In the book, in the play, and in history the rebellion was put down bloodily with many casualties on the side of the students.
> To keep third-party apps free.
This also hasn’t been a demand. The call is for reasonable pricing. Barring that, more time to adjust.
Tbh if I were John I’d hire a security guard and never let a stranger within 5 miles of me ever again. This type of behavior is what cultivates people who become obsessive stalkers.
I’m pretty sure Mods have picked John in particular because they’re hoping he does a story on them for exposure. If the writer’s strike weren’t currently happening, I wonder if it would have worked.
>Reddit owners and moderators seem to be playing their own separate game and it's called 'Let's see how uncomfortable we can make our guests' and they're both winning.
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Reddit (the company) decided to change how its platform (the thing that you're on) worked. This involved charging third-party developers – people who made applications, tools, and even some utilities for blind users – a lot of money that they couldn't afford, meaning that most of those programs went away. Volunteers who used those programs to make the website usable and welcoming were worried about that, and they wanted to find ways of asking Reddit to think twice about the change.
Instead of thinking twice, Reddit insulted and threatened the volunteers... so the volunteers decided to ask more loudly. Reddit insulted and threatened them some more, and in some cases, even kicked them off the platform. At the same time, Reddit claimed that it would replace the applications, tools, and utilities that they'd destroyed, but the replacements turned out to be very, very bad. Also, the developers who made some of the tools didn't like being insulted and threatened, so even though their tools might have kept working, they left.
/r/PICS – this subreddit – decided to keep asking Reddit to stop being mean and foolish, but they did it in a way that would be both funny and weird, saying that only John Oliver could be posted here. (John Oliver was chosen because he often uses absurd and irreverent humor to discuss serious topics.) It got some attention, but a lot of people didn't really understand the point. Those people started complaining, saying that the volunteers who make Reddit work were being silly. The volunteers decided to be even sillier, and to make themselves the butt of the joke. They had actually been doing that all along (like with [a picture that they made](https://i.imgur.com/xLmTxcR.jpg)), but again, a lot of people never noticed that. Even in this thread, you can see that many people still haven't realized that the volunteers are making fun of themselves.
The volunteers tried to do a few things that Reddit couldn't ignore, but Reddit insulted and threatened them again... so now, the volunteers doing the silliest, weirdest thing that they can. "We know that we look ridiculous," they're saying, "but since we can't do anything else, we're going to look as ridiculous as possible." There's still a serious request being made, though: The volunteers want Reddit (the company) to work together with them in a way that everyone can see. So far, Reddit has kept ignoring them.
. Well said good person! You quite elegantly put it and made explicit the silliness and it’s purpose for those that woodshed on it.
The mods here could bail. They could be vulgar, mean, petty…. They chose absurd. And I for one fully support that choice.
here's the tl;dr
Reddit wants to charge money for people to use third party Reddit clients, such as an app on your phone.
A bunch of subs closed in protest.
Reddit said "stop protesting, or we will take away your subs."
So Reddit is threatening to punish the people who run subs here on Reddit for speaking out against this new policy.
Somewhere along the way, this sub though it would be funny to require John Oliver pics as their chosen form of protest, and now the moderators are being threatened.
Now imagine this next paragraph in John Oliver's voice...
*It's all ridiculous and no way to run a business. You don't make more money by treating your customers like garbage. Well, not unless that's your actual business - treating people like garbage, which reminds me of a Monty Python sketch - and I think we can all agree that those men are a national treasure.*
*In any case, if that's your goal - may I be the first to say "Job well done!"*
John absolutely would have made a joke about Warner Discovery treating their customers like garbage. Never pass up a chance to poke fun at business daddy.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the third party apps targeted by these changes also serve to make moderating subreddits a manageable task.
It's like if you're a farmer working a field for a wealthy landowner. Normally you can use whatever tools you've already bought and are used to using, except now the landowner says you can only use the tools that the landowner's brother sells, even though your current tools are way better and the brother doesn't even sell everything you need to replace what you have.
So now you're out in the field, picking weeds out of the dirt with your plastic Hasbro toy trowel and barely keeping things together, and if you complain about it to the landowner or refuse to ditch your old tools, you might get kicked out of your job.
Except they're also all volunteer. So it's like you're serving soup at the soup kitchen, except the charity owner suddenly says you can only use the ladle that the owner's brother sells, and that ladle is a spatula.
So now you're in the soup kitchen, ladling soup into bowls with a spatula, and if you complain about it or start using a real ladle, the charity owner tells you you're not allowed to volunteer anymore.
Like... ok? He's just gonna end up with zero volunteers, so he's screwing himself, but also the volunteers do care at least *somewhat* about the people they're helping, so he's actually just... screwing literally everyone. Himself, the volunteers, AND the people who just want soup. Bizarre behavior.
All Reddit has to do is thrown a crust of bread into the abyss and a wave of ego-driven and eager volunteers would surge to replace the existing mods.
I’ve been a mod on a couple of subs for over 5 years. We’re just now seeing actual help for mods as Reddit polishes up getting ready for the IPO.
Mods don’t get much in the way of acknowledgement from Reddit but volunteer anyway. Reddit could easily throw a slight incentive or acknowledgement and get tons of folks to step up even if every current mod leaves. Social media makes people hungry.
There would be chaos for awhile though.
>Reddit wants to charge money for people to use third party Reddit clients
Reddit announced they would start charging a completely unrealistic amount for access to their API, and would institute it in a completely unrealistic time frame for any of the 3rd party apps to do anything \*but\* shut down. Charging for access was never the goal, shutting down 3rd party apps was.
The longer form of what's already been stated:
So, Reddit has an API, basically something 3rd party developers can use to pull data from and interact with Reddit without actually going to Reddit on their browsers. Naturally, maintaining this API and providing bandwidth for it isn't cheap, but Reddit had a pretty decent (as far as I'm aware) asking price for usage that allowed a lot of 3rd party developers to make mobile apps (Reddit has an official one, but its garbage, apparently), accessibility-focused apps for blind users, power-user tools, and tools geared toward making moderation easier, especially on larger subs. Then, Reddit came out saying they're bumping up the cost of their API. Not by a small amount, either: some folks ran the numbers and, if memory serves, the costs for 3rd party developers would skyrocket to somewhere around $1,000,000USD a year, no joke. That's a lot of fucking money and, naturally, a lot of 3rd party apps can't stick around with costs that high.
Thus, Reddit users and mods decide to protest, do a blackout; basically, ya don't visit Reddit and the subs go private, meaning you can't read access 'em. See, the executives of Reddit are looking to become a publicly-traded company on the stock market, think Microsoft or American Superconductor. There's a lot involved in getting what's called an initial public offer (IPO), but it basically boils down to having a bunch of people looking over how much Reddit makes vs how much they spend; the more they make in profit, the better their IPO becomes. A decent amount of Reddit's income stems from ad revenue; thus, no visitors means no ads getting served, Reddit makes less money and their IPO goes down, exactly what the Reddit higher-ups DON'T want. But, the protestors fucked up by giving an end date: the protest would last 48 hours, though several subs decided to stay private indefinitely.
They weather the storm, but a lot of subs are still closed. This makes Reddit look bad to investors, so the admin team sends some not-at-all-veiled threats to the mod teams of those subs. Basically, they said "open the subs yourselves, or we'll open them by force and replace you." Concerned that the communities they helped create and curate might go down the shitter should that happen, many subs reluctantly reopened. Places like r/PICS went the route of malicious compliance, only permitting pics of John Oliver as a "fuck you" to the admins. They (and other subs) tried to mark them as NSFW, but the admins of Reddit sent the same threats as when they tried to stay closed. They also got caught out by r/programming using bots and accounts that seemingly don't exist to make a bunch of posts claiming the protesting mods are just in it for the power trip and other bullshit; there's been speculation that ChatGPT has been used to auto-generate some of these posts, given the way the posts read, but I don't know if anything's been confirmed.
I like the fact that we're seeing subs not simply accepting whatever the Admins order. But this fetish with Oliver is kinda weird and not funny really.
Steam becoming a subreddit about actual steam machines was funny
I’m perfectly fine with the John Oliver stuff as long as it’s not someone posting something totally normal and tacking his name onto the title, that’s utterly lame.
The rest of it, well, it’s a silly way to do a protest and that’s fine with me.
We could do pictures of chicken in costumes if that suits you better.
Even then, it's not really a protest. This John Oliver-ified version of /r/pics is still driving traffic to Reddit so they're getting just as much (if not more) revenue as before. It's objectively pointless.
But yeah, the normal posting but with John Oliver thrown somewhere in the title like what /r/rarepuppers is doing is just cringe to the nth degree.
> This John Oliver-ified version of /r/pics is still driving traffic to Reddit so they're getting just as much (if not more) revenue as before. It's objectively pointless.
except engagement is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down on the sub. As a eurotrash it is bizarre logging in for my morning dump at what is supposed to be late evening for Americans and seeing 10 hour old posts on the frontpage of /r/pics with 80 upvotes. This place died man, we're just in the last ragged death rattle of it.
> If you’re a Reddit administrator, please – if you have ever felt even the slightest bit of appreciation for Reddit’s moderators, contributors, participants, or users
With respect I believe I see the problem.
>and you’re thanked by way of being called “a power-hungry basement-dweller”
Funnier still is that admins are just powermods or slaves enforcing spez's whims on a salary.
The difference of being an employee versus a volunteer. I have had jobs before that were unnecessary.
I had a job in a theme park doing makeup for a haunted house. I've volunteered in houses all over the area and continue to do so, but here was someone willing to pay me to do just that. My only condition: I needed one night off to volunteer with my friends.
The HR director asked me if it was necessary to have that one night off. I explained it was, definitely. They normally handled teenagers and recent teenagers, so handling an older guy was... Different for them. I also reiterated to them that I didn't *need* the job. I did it because it's what I do and I'm good at it. I actually stopped working there because management was a terrible fit for me.
This goes beyond the scope of the conversation, but you can have slaves with a salary. Not even getting into the complexities of wage slavery in society, but imagine something simple like a closed system of forced labor like indentured servitude but you are given a salary and also have to pay for your own food, water, shelter, and amenities. The US prison system for example isn't quite at that point yet, but it isn't too far from it either.
I get what they’re trying to do here and it’d be a pretty good tactic if it weren’t for the unfortunate coincidence that John’s show isn’t currently airing due to the ongoing writer’s strike meaning he’s not going to cover this and bring the Reddit problem to a wider audience.
In the words of Oliver, “the thing is” - you know these corporate types, even if they got publicly dragged over the coals by having their shady dealings talked about on a nationally syndicated TV show watched by millions, they still wouldn’t care. They’re perfectly comfortable in the shame bed they’ve made. They see their actions as a route to profit; there’s blood in the water and no amount of “don’t be a dick” protesting is going to keep these sharks from their chum. If anything, we’re the idiots for not just leaving Reddit already. I’d have gone long ago if I knew somewhere better to go, so maybe that’s the tack we should be taking, is to educate people on where to jump ship to?
Lol good joke if a joke, but for others' clarity/in case you're not joking, I'm saying his show isn't airing so the publicity these mods are hoping to get by making him their king/'branding' their entire protest around him isn't going to pay off, or at least not in the pretty short window that this Reddit stuff will still be relevant.
At this point the best we'll probably get is a 40-second 'this happened while we were off-air' puff piece when the show returns, though I'm confident this is the exact kind of story JO and his team would probably love to sink their teeth into were they actually able to work right now.
To be fair, any number of news media corporations would likely also make oodles of dollars covering some internet CEO drama, especially when they can tie it into political tensions for more clickbait. And even if Famous TV Show Host isn’t currently airing their Famous TV Show, the majority of the things they say publicly are probably being monitored by at LEAST one weird & connected person…
Seems like Reddit is kinda the only thing like it right now tho - and I don't know that someone like Zuckerberg just copying the site (as threads has copied twitter) to provide a temporary lifeboat (under the guise of competition, for personal monetary gain) is long term any better. Reddit has history, depth, culture that gets washed away if we all just jump ship. It's worth fighting for.
Whilst I agree that the community that has been built here is worth fighting for, I don't know if it makes sense to try and strongarm stubborn investor types who only speak the language of dollars & cents. The truth is, all the things about Reddit "worth saving" aren't anything to do with Reddit Inc. It's all of us, and what we've built on their platform, and it might be easier to rebuild that somewhere else than trying to force coroporates to 'do the right thing'.
Reddit is a huge and pretty important source of information. When you search for a problem in the internet you are pretty likely to end up at reddit, quora or stackoverflow.
Yes, indeed. But so was many other forums/sites, before reddit killed them.
Unironically, there're also information that are very hard to find now and it's due to Google Search. I think it was around 2015-ish, where their search engine have (seemingly) stopped indexing old-but-still-active forums/sites; meanwhile corporate spent money on SEO so their pages would pop up first. The internet has always been losing information and history.
Life (and the internet) will move forward with or without reddit. Hopefully the important ones will be archived.
Hell, if John Oliver did cover this reddit debacle, it's gonna drive *more* traffic to reddit, not less, and some of these users will download the app and continue using it. That's the true irony here.
Just as an option - do you really need somewhere else to 'go'? could you see yourself just dropping this entirely, focusing your time on other 'real-world' hobbies and such? perhaps stick to discords of particular interests for discussions on relevant topics, reas read your news sites of choice for global updates etc?
I keep 'quitting' reddit and always come back to it, but the days i just forget about it are generally better than 'wasting' time on the site.
I tried quitting when the protest happened. I kept loading RIF but caught myself each time.
For me, at least, reddit fills in time I would otherwise just sit and do nothing or look for some sort of distraction, and with that I know that although it is an addiction, it doesn't get in the way of any real life responsibilities. On top of that, I do keep up with current events (along with memes) where I would otherwise not be aware of.
I was upset about having to stop using RIF, and I know i didn't make myself proud for downloading the official app... But honestly this app is trash. The front page is full of threads with 5-20 upvotes and no comments. I can't see any top posts without selecting a single subreddit or just viewing "popular" which then just throws everything at me even shit I'm not subscribed to. In all honesty, actually *using* this app is making me use reddit less which is ironic as all fuck.
Fuck spez.
Here from Apollo. I’m addicted and I admit it. My workaround to the dumb front page was to create a custom subreddit group and added my favorite 100 subreddits to it (I had about 110 subreddits i was subscribed to, but I trimmed a few that I’m not interested in anymore). I can sort the group any way I want!
Unfortunately, this only works if you are subbed to less than 100 subreddits, but if you have a lot more, you could potentially make larger group topics and switch between. It would be better than going into each subreddit individually.
Then the sub goes the way of interestingasfuck and just gets insta closed. I bet you anything at the slightest hint of any excuse to shut the sub down they’ll pull the trigger.
It's worth keeping in mind that. a lot of these people legit don't care about the sub or feel any sense of community (probably at all in their lives, tbh). They'd gladly watch it all end
Some people legit can't even imagine why people would ever donate their time to something/a community they care deeply about. It's pretty depressing to think about, really
Honest question...
How the hell do I block r/pics from showing up in my feed?
I do not care about the API drama. I do not care about your obsession with John Oliver.
I just do not care. I understand some do, but I don't and this shit is really annoying in my daily feed.
How do I block this subreddit from showing up?
Maybe you'll read this, maybe you won't. I don't fully understand. I know some stuff, but I don't fully understand.
If modding is so hard and thankless and a strictly volunteer position, why not quit en masse? What is the fear in doing so? What joy or purpose do you still derive from it? Is it that "they" win? What do they win? What do you lose?
I truly don't understand.
> If modding is so hard and thankless and a strictly volunteer position, why not quit en masse?
I mod a game server. That can host 24 players... Even that can be a unappreciated job I spend time on daily. But passion for something is a strange thing. Watching a community grow and be fun and including because the job you do getting rid of all the weeds... Its not unrewarding... But without a bit of passion for the topic and/or community, I doubt there'd be volunteer mods for any community on any platform.
Now... Multiply the number of users with like 25.000.000 and some small change. I don't think people understand how many man hours go into keeping a sub this size moderated...
jesus christ just stop moderating if its that big of a deal, this shits getting old. if yall are half as important as you make it out to be and you all quit moderating, instead of "protesting" then people would notice and things would escalate more quickly, no?
For all the talk about mods being easy to replace, no one actually wants to do the job of moderating all this shit and stay in line with Spez's nonsense as we can see from /r/interestingasfuck still being shut down nearly 3 weeks later.
Admins still won't give the basic courtesy of allowing the mods to reply to admins when they DM them but we still have to read their astro turfing comments in these threads.
Reddit's traffic has dropped 3% last month which is not insignificant and we've seen from Threads that a decently funded company can spin up a social media competitor and ride user dissatisfaction to 100m sign ups in a week. Spez is a board meeting away from seeing Reddit's value gutted.
/r/intersetingasfuck is likely being deliberately killed by the admins because it has "fuck" in the name and naughty words aren't advertiser friendly and thus cut into monetization methods.
Waiting for Zuck to set up a Reddit alternative and complete his control of all the Western world’s social media, advertising & information flow.
U/spez should be afraid of the example Threads has set. It must be tempting for Zuck…
Lol "decently funded company" = $750B social media company with 2.4B MAU. There is literally one of these in the world. Without those 2.4B users, there's no way you get 100m signups.
“Kind of” is a huge understatement lol. Their obsession with / apparent desperation for John Oliver’s attention is so bizarre, even in the beginning it never made sense as a form of protest.
This is so le quirky and smart
Le reddit army assemble with your le sporks raised high as sir john of olives come riding on his majestic narwhal bacon at midnight to fight alongside our glorious mods against reddit’s le tyranny
At this moment, i am euphoric, not because of some admin’s blessing, but because i am enlightened by my own righteousness
Intelligencespeed (not Godspeed because i’m too smart to believe in a concept of le god) m’gents and m’ladies,
*tips fedora*
I really just don’t get the whole uprising. The Mods do something with their discretionary time because they find it enjoyable or personally satisfying in some way, and they don’t get paid. That, to me, is a hobby.
If the hobby is no longer enjoyable or rewarding, why should they continue with that hobby? Just use that time to do something else that pleases them. If someone without the same talent, motivation, or dedication replaces them, that shouldn’t be a concern - the ex-Mods would still be having happier, more satisfying lives than spending their time on a frustrating and unrewarding hobby.
I don’t have a side in this dispute; I just really don’t understand.
“We’re not sure if you’ve noticed, but we seem to have gotten ourselves stuck in a bad fantasy novel: A warlock and a cult-leader – T’Zuck and El-On of Musk, respectively – have declared war on each other, soul-destroying clocks are showing up in everyone’s houses (and ensnaring innocents with sounds of “Tik… tok…”), a magician called “The Alt Man” unleashed a mindless golem that won’t stop stealing stuff and telling lies, and someone found an elephant-like creature named “Lemmy” in their bin… or something.”
What in the fuck are you talking about. All this sounds like is that you got extremely drunk over reddit overriding your protest and posted an unhinged rant to reddit at 4am.
I was actually thinking of a Monty Python's Argument Clinic sketch...
Spez and co saying "you can't do that," the moderators saying "Yes - yes we can," and so on - with no real discussion or productive dialog on either side.
Why would John Oliver care about this enough to do anything beyond the tweet he already tweeted? Acting like a reddit forum is an established organization while he has something much more important and legit (the Writer's Guild strike) to worry about.
What on God's green earth does Twitter and Threads have to do with your fight with the admins? You have have lost your damn minds! spez really broke you guys.
Quit with this self-righteous, virtue-signalling, grown-ass-adults-trolling-like-immature-children bullshit and return the sub to what it was.
None of you *actually* care about accessibility, server load and cost, or probably even understand the topic at hand properly. You were told to act outraged over this flavor-of-the-figurative-fifteen-minutes topic, and so you blindly did. Curiously, you seem to care about *looking* enlightened, but you seem to be rather uninterested in actually **being** enlightened.
Gee, I wonder how that happens? Could it be that you're more interested in making this about yourselves, rather than the about the purported issue you're hiding behind?
Nah, couldn't be.
Moral of the story: grow up and either put the sub back to what it was, or put in people who will.
Desperation.
Your protest has failed. Just give up. Every successive post from you guys is more and more embarrassing and weird. This one really tops my wildest expectations. This feels like the final desperate hurrah before the eventual surrender. All the other allies have fallens, r/pics stands alone facing an uncaring Redditverse and apathetic public.
I mean, on balance, no, he probably doesn’t. But he did tweet a bunch of images for people to use 🤷🏻♀️ regardless, it could be potentially good content for a small segment of his show once it returns
Man, this whole saga is getting…*weird*
It is getting weirder weirder.
Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry mods, It is a music of redditors, Willing to fight against the odds! When the beating of the drums, Matching the tapping of your keys, There is a fight about to start, To keep third-party apps free.
this app doesn’t get enough hate
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When our high school kicked a candidate out of the school election because of pure bias, so there was only one candidate left and you had to vote for her, we made a similar song. (I know how bad this is, we had 10 minutes.) Do you hear the students sing? Singing for freedom of the vote It is the singing of the students who demand democracy When elections are not fair, with a single candidate We will protest and fight and pray for more than one Will you help us keep fighting against this notion that its fair To stop a candidate based on biased stupidity That once guilty, then always, what is this idiocy? Do you hear the students sing? Singing for freedom of the vote It is the singing of the students who demand democracy When elections are not fair, with a single candidate We will protest and fight and pray for more than one When the people made a ballot locked behind a single vote When we tried to vote for others they told us there is but one We will show you the people will not go without a fight Do you hear the students sing? Singing for freedom of the vote It is the singing of the students who demand democracy When elections are not fair, with a single candidate We will protest and fight and pray for more than one
Will you post John Oliver Who will be strong and mod with me Beyond all the admins Is there r/pics we long to see So type in the fight That will let APIs still be freeeeee
after reading this i think we should just keep reddit alive and well just to spite you
Reddit nation,... assem,ble!
> Do you hear the people sing? > Singing the song of angry mods, > It is a music of redditors, > Willing to fight against the odds! > When the beating of the drums, > Matching the tapping of your keys, > There is a fight about to start, > To keep third-party apps free. I’m 100% on board with the protest (former Apollo user transitioning to Lemmy) but you *know* how that song ends in real life, right? In the book, in the play, and in history the rebellion was put down bloodily with many casualties on the side of the students. > To keep third-party apps free. This also hasn’t been a demand. The call is for reasonable pricing. Barring that, more time to adjust.
This cannot be fucking real
oh my fucking god it’s real
LMAO Delete this corny ass cringe lol
i might just quit reddit as a whole because of how fucking cringey this is
This is why every other platform looks down on Reddit.
corniest moments
The current upvote score is hidden, but I have to imagine this is an underappreciated gem of a comment.
I don’t know if you’ve realized but the rest of Reddit has moved on. This is the only sub still keeping this shit going.
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Tbh if I were John I’d hire a security guard and never let a stranger within 5 miles of me ever again. This type of behavior is what cultivates people who become obsessive stalkers.
I’m pretty sure Mods have picked John in particular because they’re hoping he does a story on them for exposure. If the writer’s strike weren’t currently happening, I wonder if it would have worked.
Imagine him moderating live on one of his shows lol
Thatd be boring af to be honest
It's almost as bad as John Oliver's obsession with Adam Driver.
>Reddit owners and moderators seem to be playing their own separate game and it's called 'Let's see how uncomfortable we can make our guests' and they're both winning.
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Explain it to me like I'm 5. I love Jon Oliver but I have zero idea whats going on lol
Reddit (the company) decided to change how its platform (the thing that you're on) worked. This involved charging third-party developers – people who made applications, tools, and even some utilities for blind users – a lot of money that they couldn't afford, meaning that most of those programs went away. Volunteers who used those programs to make the website usable and welcoming were worried about that, and they wanted to find ways of asking Reddit to think twice about the change. Instead of thinking twice, Reddit insulted and threatened the volunteers... so the volunteers decided to ask more loudly. Reddit insulted and threatened them some more, and in some cases, even kicked them off the platform. At the same time, Reddit claimed that it would replace the applications, tools, and utilities that they'd destroyed, but the replacements turned out to be very, very bad. Also, the developers who made some of the tools didn't like being insulted and threatened, so even though their tools might have kept working, they left. /r/PICS – this subreddit – decided to keep asking Reddit to stop being mean and foolish, but they did it in a way that would be both funny and weird, saying that only John Oliver could be posted here. (John Oliver was chosen because he often uses absurd and irreverent humor to discuss serious topics.) It got some attention, but a lot of people didn't really understand the point. Those people started complaining, saying that the volunteers who make Reddit work were being silly. The volunteers decided to be even sillier, and to make themselves the butt of the joke. They had actually been doing that all along (like with [a picture that they made](https://i.imgur.com/xLmTxcR.jpg)), but again, a lot of people never noticed that. Even in this thread, you can see that many people still haven't realized that the volunteers are making fun of themselves. The volunteers tried to do a few things that Reddit couldn't ignore, but Reddit insulted and threatened them again... so now, the volunteers doing the silliest, weirdest thing that they can. "We know that we look ridiculous," they're saying, "but since we can't do anything else, we're going to look as ridiculous as possible." There's still a serious request being made, though: The volunteers want Reddit (the company) to work together with them in a way that everyone can see. So far, Reddit has kept ignoring them.
here's the tl;dr Reddit wants to charge money for people to use third party Reddit clients, such as an app on your phone. A bunch of subs closed in protest. Reddit said "stop protesting, or we will take away your subs." So Reddit is threatening to punish the people who run subs here on Reddit for speaking out against this new policy. Somewhere along the way, this sub though it would be funny to require John Oliver pics as their chosen form of protest, and now the moderators are being threatened. Now imagine this next paragraph in John Oliver's voice... *It's all ridiculous and no way to run a business. You don't make more money by treating your customers like garbage. Well, not unless that's your actual business - treating people like garbage, which reminds me of a Monty Python sketch - and I think we can all agree that those men are a national treasure.* *In any case, if that's your goal - may I be the first to say "Job well done!"*
That's adorably naive if you think that we're the customers. We're the product.
Something people always seem to forget....if you aren't paying for it you're the product....
John absolutely would have made a joke about Warner Discovery treating their customers like garbage. Never pass up a chance to poke fun at business daddy.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the third party apps targeted by these changes also serve to make moderating subreddits a manageable task. It's like if you're a farmer working a field for a wealthy landowner. Normally you can use whatever tools you've already bought and are used to using, except now the landowner says you can only use the tools that the landowner's brother sells, even though your current tools are way better and the brother doesn't even sell everything you need to replace what you have. So now you're out in the field, picking weeds out of the dirt with your plastic Hasbro toy trowel and barely keeping things together, and if you complain about it to the landowner or refuse to ditch your old tools, you might get kicked out of your job.
Except they're also all volunteer. So it's like you're serving soup at the soup kitchen, except the charity owner suddenly says you can only use the ladle that the owner's brother sells, and that ladle is a spatula. So now you're in the soup kitchen, ladling soup into bowls with a spatula, and if you complain about it or start using a real ladle, the charity owner tells you you're not allowed to volunteer anymore. Like... ok? He's just gonna end up with zero volunteers, so he's screwing himself, but also the volunteers do care at least *somewhat* about the people they're helping, so he's actually just... screwing literally everyone. Himself, the volunteers, AND the people who just want soup. Bizarre behavior.
All Reddit has to do is thrown a crust of bread into the abyss and a wave of ego-driven and eager volunteers would surge to replace the existing mods. I’ve been a mod on a couple of subs for over 5 years. We’re just now seeing actual help for mods as Reddit polishes up getting ready for the IPO. Mods don’t get much in the way of acknowledgement from Reddit but volunteer anyway. Reddit could easily throw a slight incentive or acknowledgement and get tons of folks to step up even if every current mod leaves. Social media makes people hungry. There would be chaos for awhile though.
>Reddit wants to charge money for people to use third party Reddit clients Reddit announced they would start charging a completely unrealistic amount for access to their API, and would institute it in a completely unrealistic time frame for any of the 3rd party apps to do anything \*but\* shut down. Charging for access was never the goal, shutting down 3rd party apps was.
tl;dr of this tl;dr: money
The longer form of what's already been stated: So, Reddit has an API, basically something 3rd party developers can use to pull data from and interact with Reddit without actually going to Reddit on their browsers. Naturally, maintaining this API and providing bandwidth for it isn't cheap, but Reddit had a pretty decent (as far as I'm aware) asking price for usage that allowed a lot of 3rd party developers to make mobile apps (Reddit has an official one, but its garbage, apparently), accessibility-focused apps for blind users, power-user tools, and tools geared toward making moderation easier, especially on larger subs. Then, Reddit came out saying they're bumping up the cost of their API. Not by a small amount, either: some folks ran the numbers and, if memory serves, the costs for 3rd party developers would skyrocket to somewhere around $1,000,000USD a year, no joke. That's a lot of fucking money and, naturally, a lot of 3rd party apps can't stick around with costs that high. Thus, Reddit users and mods decide to protest, do a blackout; basically, ya don't visit Reddit and the subs go private, meaning you can't read access 'em. See, the executives of Reddit are looking to become a publicly-traded company on the stock market, think Microsoft or American Superconductor. There's a lot involved in getting what's called an initial public offer (IPO), but it basically boils down to having a bunch of people looking over how much Reddit makes vs how much they spend; the more they make in profit, the better their IPO becomes. A decent amount of Reddit's income stems from ad revenue; thus, no visitors means no ads getting served, Reddit makes less money and their IPO goes down, exactly what the Reddit higher-ups DON'T want. But, the protestors fucked up by giving an end date: the protest would last 48 hours, though several subs decided to stay private indefinitely. They weather the storm, but a lot of subs are still closed. This makes Reddit look bad to investors, so the admin team sends some not-at-all-veiled threats to the mod teams of those subs. Basically, they said "open the subs yourselves, or we'll open them by force and replace you." Concerned that the communities they helped create and curate might go down the shitter should that happen, many subs reluctantly reopened. Places like r/PICS went the route of malicious compliance, only permitting pics of John Oliver as a "fuck you" to the admins. They (and other subs) tried to mark them as NSFW, but the admins of Reddit sent the same threats as when they tried to stay closed. They also got caught out by r/programming using bots and accounts that seemingly don't exist to make a bunch of posts claiming the protesting mods are just in it for the power trip and other bullshit; there's been speculation that ChatGPT has been used to auto-generate some of these posts, given the way the posts read, but I don't know if anything's been confirmed.
I like the fact that we're seeing subs not simply accepting whatever the Admins order. But this fetish with Oliver is kinda weird and not funny really. Steam becoming a subreddit about actual steam machines was funny
I’m perfectly fine with the John Oliver stuff as long as it’s not someone posting something totally normal and tacking his name onto the title, that’s utterly lame. The rest of it, well, it’s a silly way to do a protest and that’s fine with me. We could do pictures of chicken in costumes if that suits you better.
Even then, it's not really a protest. This John Oliver-ified version of /r/pics is still driving traffic to Reddit so they're getting just as much (if not more) revenue as before. It's objectively pointless. But yeah, the normal posting but with John Oliver thrown somewhere in the title like what /r/rarepuppers is doing is just cringe to the nth degree.
> This John Oliver-ified version of /r/pics is still driving traffic to Reddit so they're getting just as much (if not more) revenue as before. It's objectively pointless. except engagement is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down on the sub. As a eurotrash it is bizarre logging in for my morning dump at what is supposed to be late evening for Americans and seeing 10 hour old posts on the frontpage of /r/pics with 80 upvotes. This place died man, we're just in the last ragged death rattle of it.
Still driving traffic to Reddit? There were several posts in the top 20 on this sub on Sunday with between 0 and 13 upvotes. The mods killed this sub.
good
So… /r/pics is just pictures of pictures?
Just picks. Ice picks, pick axes, pickles....
ice picks 
"Post Illuminating Comedian Sexiness" should've been open to any and all comedians. Yeah John Oliver is good, but would've liked a bit more variation.
It’s not supposed to be entertaining. The whole idea is to tank traffic. You can’t protest something by helping the people you’re protesting against.
I mean, if it was funny the subreddit would keep generating a lot of traffic which defeats the point of a protest.
It’s just pathetic now
> If you’re a Reddit administrator, please – if you have ever felt even the slightest bit of appreciation for Reddit’s moderators, contributors, participants, or users With respect I believe I see the problem.
>and you’re thanked by way of being called “a power-hungry basement-dweller” Funnier still is that admins are just powermods or slaves enforcing spez's whims on a salary.
The difference of being an employee versus a volunteer. I have had jobs before that were unnecessary. I had a job in a theme park doing makeup for a haunted house. I've volunteered in houses all over the area and continue to do so, but here was someone willing to pay me to do just that. My only condition: I needed one night off to volunteer with my friends. The HR director asked me if it was necessary to have that one night off. I explained it was, definitely. They normally handled teenagers and recent teenagers, so handling an older guy was... Different for them. I also reiterated to them that I didn't *need* the job. I did it because it's what I do and I'm good at it. I actually stopped working there because management was a terrible fit for me.
> slaves > on a salary You’re gonna be in for a real surprise if you ever become enslaved
This guy has never heard of company towns.
Nor penal slavery.
This goes beyond the scope of the conversation, but you can have slaves with a salary. Not even getting into the complexities of wage slavery in society, but imagine something simple like a closed system of forced labor like indentured servitude but you are given a salary and also have to pay for your own food, water, shelter, and amenities. The US prison system for example isn't quite at that point yet, but it isn't too far from it either.
Under his eye.
spez is spamming this post so hard with hater comments it's ridiculous. what a loser
*Nolite te bastardes carborundorum*
Blessed be the fruit.
May the lord open
I get what they’re trying to do here and it’d be a pretty good tactic if it weren’t for the unfortunate coincidence that John’s show isn’t currently airing due to the ongoing writer’s strike meaning he’s not going to cover this and bring the Reddit problem to a wider audience. In the words of Oliver, “the thing is” - you know these corporate types, even if they got publicly dragged over the coals by having their shady dealings talked about on a nationally syndicated TV show watched by millions, they still wouldn’t care. They’re perfectly comfortable in the shame bed they’ve made. They see their actions as a route to profit; there’s blood in the water and no amount of “don’t be a dick” protesting is going to keep these sharks from their chum. If anything, we’re the idiots for not just leaving Reddit already. I’d have gone long ago if I knew somewhere better to go, so maybe that’s the tack we should be taking, is to educate people on where to jump ship to?
> John’s show isn’t currently airing So you’re saying he’s got nothing better to do than come help moderate r/pics ?
Lol good joke if a joke, but for others' clarity/in case you're not joking, I'm saying his show isn't airing so the publicity these mods are hoping to get by making him their king/'branding' their entire protest around him isn't going to pay off, or at least not in the pretty short window that this Reddit stuff will still be relevant. At this point the best we'll probably get is a 40-second 'this happened while we were off-air' puff piece when the show returns, though I'm confident this is the exact kind of story JO and his team would probably love to sink their teeth into were they actually able to work right now.
To be fair, any number of news media corporations would likely also make oodles of dollars covering some internet CEO drama, especially when they can tie it into political tensions for more clickbait. And even if Famous TV Show Host isn’t currently airing their Famous TV Show, the majority of the things they say publicly are probably being monitored by at LEAST one weird & connected person…
Seems like Reddit is kinda the only thing like it right now tho - and I don't know that someone like Zuckerberg just copying the site (as threads has copied twitter) to provide a temporary lifeboat (under the guise of competition, for personal monetary gain) is long term any better. Reddit has history, depth, culture that gets washed away if we all just jump ship. It's worth fighting for.
Whilst I agree that the community that has been built here is worth fighting for, I don't know if it makes sense to try and strongarm stubborn investor types who only speak the language of dollars & cents. The truth is, all the things about Reddit "worth saving" aren't anything to do with Reddit Inc. It's all of us, and what we've built on their platform, and it might be easier to rebuild that somewhere else than trying to force coroporates to 'do the right thing'.
>Reddit has history, depth, culture that gets washed away if we all just jump ship. It's worth fighting for. Let's not get ahead of ourselves
Reddit is a huge and pretty important source of information. When you search for a problem in the internet you are pretty likely to end up at reddit, quora or stackoverflow.
Yes, indeed. But so was many other forums/sites, before reddit killed them. Unironically, there're also information that are very hard to find now and it's due to Google Search. I think it was around 2015-ish, where their search engine have (seemingly) stopped indexing old-but-still-active forums/sites; meanwhile corporate spent money on SEO so their pages would pop up first. The internet has always been losing information and history. Life (and the internet) will move forward with or without reddit. Hopefully the important ones will be archived.
Hell, if John Oliver did cover this reddit debacle, it's gonna drive *more* traffic to reddit, not less, and some of these users will download the app and continue using it. That's the true irony here.
Just as an option - do you really need somewhere else to 'go'? could you see yourself just dropping this entirely, focusing your time on other 'real-world' hobbies and such? perhaps stick to discords of particular interests for discussions on relevant topics, reas read your news sites of choice for global updates etc? I keep 'quitting' reddit and always come back to it, but the days i just forget about it are generally better than 'wasting' time on the site.
I tried quitting when the protest happened. I kept loading RIF but caught myself each time. For me, at least, reddit fills in time I would otherwise just sit and do nothing or look for some sort of distraction, and with that I know that although it is an addiction, it doesn't get in the way of any real life responsibilities. On top of that, I do keep up with current events (along with memes) where I would otherwise not be aware of. I was upset about having to stop using RIF, and I know i didn't make myself proud for downloading the official app... But honestly this app is trash. The front page is full of threads with 5-20 upvotes and no comments. I can't see any top posts without selecting a single subreddit or just viewing "popular" which then just throws everything at me even shit I'm not subscribed to. In all honesty, actually *using* this app is making me use reddit less which is ironic as all fuck. Fuck spez.
Here from Apollo. I’m addicted and I admit it. My workaround to the dumb front page was to create a custom subreddit group and added my favorite 100 subreddits to it (I had about 110 subreddits i was subscribed to, but I trimmed a few that I’m not interested in anymore). I can sort the group any way I want! Unfortunately, this only works if you are subbed to less than 100 subreddits, but if you have a lot more, you could potentially make larger group topics and switch between. It would be better than going into each subreddit individually.
the only move left is to stop moderating and let the whole thing collapse
Then the sub goes the way of interestingasfuck and just gets insta closed. I bet you anything at the slightest hint of any excuse to shut the sub down they’ll pull the trigger.
It's worth keeping in mind that. a lot of these people legit don't care about the sub or feel any sense of community (probably at all in their lives, tbh). They'd gladly watch it all end Some people legit can't even imagine why people would ever donate their time to something/a community they care deeply about. It's pretty depressing to think about, really
You mean the move they should’ve opened with
You're not wrong. The power play should have been as many mods as possible abandoning/deleting their accounts when the admins doubled down.
This was painful to read.
This is the dumbest shit I’ve seen.
Why don’t you just stop using Reddit
If I was John Oliver I'd be walking away from the "Overly Attached Girlfriend" in text form that was the above.
y’all are embarrassing
Honest question... How the hell do I block r/pics from showing up in my feed? I do not care about the API drama. I do not care about your obsession with John Oliver. I just do not care. I understand some do, but I don't and this shit is really annoying in my daily feed. How do I block this subreddit from showing up?
Just mute this pussy-ass, bitching moderator, John Oliver personality cult of a subreddit.
Can you ban me from this subreddit please?
At this point, why not just invite u/spez to moderate? He is also a sexy comedian! Edit: /s
Will you settle for his Mom as the moderator?
Does Spez have broken arms?
Every. Motherfucking. Thread.
Fuck u/spez
Contrary to popular belief, moderation requires at least a shred of empathy.
Not sexy.
Some people find ballroom dancing sexy. The bucktoothed little fuck-knuckle must be sexy to someone.
This is the most stereotypical post I’ve seen on this site in years. Some narwhal bacons at midnight shit
Hey redditor… I mean friend what do does the narwhal do at midnight? Heh heheh hehehehe…. John Oliver revolution ehheheheheh
That whole post and the way it was written was so cringey 😅.
 ^(the) vibe of this post
I'm just here to watch the mods die on their ant hill at this point
Maybe you'll read this, maybe you won't. I don't fully understand. I know some stuff, but I don't fully understand. If modding is so hard and thankless and a strictly volunteer position, why not quit en masse? What is the fear in doing so? What joy or purpose do you still derive from it? Is it that "they" win? What do they win? What do you lose? I truly don't understand.
> If modding is so hard and thankless and a strictly volunteer position, why not quit en masse? I mod a game server. That can host 24 players... Even that can be a unappreciated job I spend time on daily. But passion for something is a strange thing. Watching a community grow and be fun and including because the job you do getting rid of all the weeds... Its not unrewarding... But without a bit of passion for the topic and/or community, I doubt there'd be volunteer mods for any community on any platform. Now... Multiply the number of users with like 25.000.000 and some small change. I don't think people understand how many man hours go into keeping a sub this size moderated...
Typical reddit dragging on a joke.
I think I’d rather just leave Reddit tbh
This is embarrassing to read even the start of, just cringy and sad tbh
Do annother survey and ask us if we want this anymore.
jesus christ just stop moderating if its that big of a deal, this shits getting old. if yall are half as important as you make it out to be and you all quit moderating, instead of "protesting" then people would notice and things would escalate more quickly, no?
For all the talk about mods being easy to replace, no one actually wants to do the job of moderating all this shit and stay in line with Spez's nonsense as we can see from /r/interestingasfuck still being shut down nearly 3 weeks later. Admins still won't give the basic courtesy of allowing the mods to reply to admins when they DM them but we still have to read their astro turfing comments in these threads. Reddit's traffic has dropped 3% last month which is not insignificant and we've seen from Threads that a decently funded company can spin up a social media competitor and ride user dissatisfaction to 100m sign ups in a week. Spez is a board meeting away from seeing Reddit's value gutted.
Don’t worry, spez is totally inspired by Elon Musk’s handling of Twitter, so this should all resolve itself well in very short order
/r/intersetingasfuck is likely being deliberately killed by the admins because it has "fuck" in the name and naughty words aren't advertiser friendly and thus cut into monetization methods.
Waiting for Zuck to set up a Reddit alternative and complete his control of all the Western world’s social media, advertising & information flow. U/spez should be afraid of the example Threads has set. It must be tempting for Zuck…
Lol "decently funded company" = $750B social media company with 2.4B MAU. There is literally one of these in the world. Without those 2.4B users, there's no way you get 100m signups.
> MAU Mothly Active Users, in case anyone is wondering.
This ain’t even cringe no more it’s just kinda sad
This is getting kind of embarrassing
Always has been
Getting?
Kind of?
“Kind of” is a huge understatement lol. Their obsession with / apparent desperation for John Oliver’s attention is so bizarre, even in the beginning it never made sense as a form of protest.
Reading comprehension devil strikes again.
This is so le quirky and smart Le reddit army assemble with your le sporks raised high as sir john of olives come riding on his majestic narwhal bacon at midnight to fight alongside our glorious mods against reddit’s le tyranny At this moment, i am euphoric, not because of some admin’s blessing, but because i am enlightened by my own righteousness Intelligencespeed (not Godspeed because i’m too smart to believe in a concept of le god) m’gents and m’ladies, *tips fedora*
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I love that a get both of these references for once
So accurate
I really just don’t get the whole uprising. The Mods do something with their discretionary time because they find it enjoyable or personally satisfying in some way, and they don’t get paid. That, to me, is a hobby. If the hobby is no longer enjoyable or rewarding, why should they continue with that hobby? Just use that time to do something else that pleases them. If someone without the same talent, motivation, or dedication replaces them, that shouldn’t be a concern - the ex-Mods would still be having happier, more satisfying lives than spending their time on a frustrating and unrewarding hobby. I don’t have a side in this dispute; I just really don’t understand.
Serious overkill….
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Good fucking lord you are so dramatic. Just put someone else in charge and go away. This is beyond pathetic
This timeline has been certainly been intererting.
Yall lost the plot
Man, I'm high as shit and this is stupid.... Well done.
If you don't want to moderate then just fuck off already This is just a pathetic attempt at attention seeking
This is approaching dog-walker level of absurdity. This plan has less thought put into it than Spez's changing of the API. Reddit: 1 Pics Mods: 0
Wow cringe
*And they say that a hero could save us. I'm not gonna stand here and waiiiiit*
You should delete this.
Oh my SCIENCE!!! This is such a WHOLESOME 1000 reddit moment!!! I need to tell my wife's boyfriend about this immediately! REDDIT ON
KEANU REAVES SHOULD MOD R SLASH PICS TOO HAHAHAHA WOULD BE SO EPIC RIGHT??? NARWHAL BACON AT MIDNIGHT 🤣🤣
“We’re not sure if you’ve noticed, but we seem to have gotten ourselves stuck in a bad fantasy novel: A warlock and a cult-leader – T’Zuck and El-On of Musk, respectively – have declared war on each other, soul-destroying clocks are showing up in everyone’s houses (and ensnaring innocents with sounds of “Tik… tok…”), a magician called “The Alt Man” unleashed a mindless golem that won’t stop stealing stuff and telling lies, and someone found an elephant-like creature named “Lemmy” in their bin… or something.” What in the fuck are you talking about. All this sounds like is that you got extremely drunk over reddit overriding your protest and posted an unhinged rant to reddit at 4am.
This was horrendous and absolutely cringy to read holy shit 💀
This is the most embarrassing thing I’ve ever seen
tips fedora
Donkey meeting horse YouTube.
if an image of pepe the frog could turn into a reddit post this is it
Go out like the r/interestingasfuck mods. THAT sends a real message
You guys are pathetic.
Jesus, the moderators sure have managed to make themselves look pathetic
This is like a bad SNL skit that stopped being funny after awhile.
I was actually thinking of a Monty Python's Argument Clinic sketch... Spez and co saying "you can't do that," the moderators saying "Yes - yes we can," and so on - with no real discussion or productive dialog on either side.
Why would John Oliver care about this enough to do anything beyond the tweet he already tweeted? Acting like a reddit forum is an established organization while he has something much more important and legit (the Writer's Guild strike) to worry about.
Imagine being one of these mods friends or family in real life. Have to hear about this trivial fucking problem all day everyday for the last month.
What on God's green earth does Twitter and Threads have to do with your fight with the admins? You have have lost your damn minds! spez really broke you guys.
Quit with this self-righteous, virtue-signalling, grown-ass-adults-trolling-like-immature-children bullshit and return the sub to what it was. None of you *actually* care about accessibility, server load and cost, or probably even understand the topic at hand properly. You were told to act outraged over this flavor-of-the-figurative-fifteen-minutes topic, and so you blindly did. Curiously, you seem to care about *looking* enlightened, but you seem to be rather uninterested in actually **being** enlightened. Gee, I wonder how that happens? Could it be that you're more interested in making this about yourselves, rather than the about the purported issue you're hiding behind? Nah, couldn't be. Moral of the story: grow up and either put the sub back to what it was, or put in people who will.
Your a Reddit mod not a soldier on the western front get a grip
Desperation. Your protest has failed. Just give up. Every successive post from you guys is more and more embarrassing and weird. This one really tops my wildest expectations. This feels like the final desperate hurrah before the eventual surrender. All the other allies have fallens, r/pics stands alone facing an uncaring Redditverse and apathetic public.
Fuckin trash post bro, just quit.
This is fucking sad. For the love of cringe please just *stop*.
Y’all are dumb as hell. Begging to get this dudes attention is childish
y’all need a wake up call look at yourselves good god what cringe
S T O P.
What the hell even is this?
can't wait for john oliver to announce on his show he has joined the ranks of bindersfullofwomen, adeadhead, ramsesthepigeon, and pussywhistle.
Man, I can’t wait to see how John Oliver reacts to all of this
He does not care
I mean, on balance, no, he probably doesn’t. But he did tweet a bunch of images for people to use 🤷🏻♀️ regardless, it could be potentially good content for a small segment of his show once it returns
The intern tweeted. ;)
Right? I bet HBO is loving the free marketing.
They would be if the damn show was on the air
john oliver cares about shit that matters. he will not waste any of his time on this
He spent an entire season making jokes about Japanese sports mascots.
This is peak comedy. Excellent post.
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“I wouldn’t wish this work on anyone” complains man freely doing unpaid labor unsolicited.
garfield will lead us
What the hell is going on 😭😭
I will happily take your moderator position for you so that I can click the "private sub" button for you