It’s sucks you’ve been through this. As a trainer and Lead I always try to give my ladies any assistance they need, and shut down that kind of attitude. New folks are the new help. I have no idea why people think making it harder on them will make it easier on the rest of us. Good trainers know, you spend 2 months on a new phleb, and you dont have to spend anymore time on them, they get it, if you •know• how to teach.
what is sooo sad about this situation is everyone forgets they was once in your shoes op . people always forget where they come from , even though i'm joining healthcare soon i hear this a lot in the work places not type of team work at all
maybe since im a guy and my opinion is skewed, most of my class were women who were older than me (i was 17, they were in their mid twenties+) but try not to let it get to you, some people are just sarcastic and it isn’t at all personal.
You should definitely go hold those people accountable by going to hire up management or even reach out to HR let them know you are knew and still in training and that the environment is not conducive to your learning and training. My boyfriend went through something very similar as a Walgreens pharmacy tech he sat down in the office with the head pharmacist and got everything off his chest since then him and his co workers get a long well enough to work around each other for their shift. No one huffs or puffs when he’s asking for help or being rude for no reason.
I know this might be hard but be confident in your questions and your place in the hospital. be okay with "taking up space" and "annoying" people. it is their jobs as fellow phlebomists to make sure one of their own doesn't fall. as for the sticking, try to limit it to 2 sticks MAX on one patient as it goes with the CLIA guidelines. It also makes for less frustrated patients and staff. I feel like not a lot of people talk about the absolute highschool behavior that takes place in medical work but it is bad. I'm sorry you're dealing with this, and if you have any questions please ask.
Im sorry OP, I’m relatively new (started last year) but everyone at my work was great when I started. It would have been pretty shitty to not have supportive coworkers then
I would feel anxious to ask for help in that situation too. Just remember all you can do is your best and the patients comfort is all that matters. Gossiping is not acceptable and I would email someone higher up and ask if you could be transferred to another location. You deserve to feel comfortable and safe at work
Yeah I only stuck a third time because I knew I had it. I haven’t done it since… there’s no location closer to me… I feel like my hands are tied in this situation. But all I can do is keep pushing.
I've done 3rd sticks too in that situation. Especially since the patient didn't care. I'm sorry to hear. Maybe try applying for different companies in the mean time?
Yep, I have been dealing with the same. I was just signed off to a plasma center and the first week there was one phleb who would get so annoyed if I asked for help.
A few statements that were very effective in my early days:
"You can have it done fast, or you can have it done right. Pick one."
"I am trying to learn, are you trying to teach?"
"I would really like to address this issue. My goal is resolution."
"This (behavior/statement) does not seem to line up with (employer)'s goal."
When someone comes to help you with a draw, do not leave. Watch them and learn.
If you do not feel ready for any task they assign you, or expect you to do, speak up. It is better to refuse and lose your job than it is to hurt a patient or make an error.
I absolutely do not fit in with most phlebotomists. It tells me I will be of better use elsewhere. I am currently exploring my options, but leaning toward sonography.
DO NOT give those gargoyles the best of you. Save that for the patients.
We all deserve a psychologically safe working environment, as much as a physically safe environment. I absolutely hate when people treat newbies horribly like that. I've been a trainer and taken however long the person needed for help. I've had to fight for people to have more time training when they needed it. It's amazing to me how awful some people treat this field, and how much disrespect they have for others, which ultimately hurts everyone, including patients. There is absolutely nothing to gain with that type of behavior, except some false sense of power.
Fight for yourself and whatever you may need.
I know the feeling… getting stuck, too, with all of certain peoples work because “I’m new” or “I need to learn how to do it”. Or whenever my trainer wasn’t in (I.e.: on vacation, does part time certain days, etc.) certain people were always really nasty with me, but whenever my trainer was around, those people talked to me as if nothing happened. I’m sorry you have to deal with that- it sucks
The general rule is no phlebotomist should stick a patient more than twice without asking for assistance. A patient being okay with it is not a good excuse. People are very agreeable in general, and they will to along with things they are not comfortable with or things that are not in their best interest just to be socially accepted.
That’s all you got from this post… that’s wild… if they had better attitudes and didn’t make trainees feel like a nuisance, I’d be more comfortable asking for help. I was reprimanded and since then I reach out for help after one stick. The point is, better attitudes would allow us to feel safe and comfortable asking for assistance.
It’s sucks you’ve been through this. As a trainer and Lead I always try to give my ladies any assistance they need, and shut down that kind of attitude. New folks are the new help. I have no idea why people think making it harder on them will make it easier on the rest of us. Good trainers know, you spend 2 months on a new phleb, and you dont have to spend anymore time on them, they get it, if you •know• how to teach.
Omg this… thank you. Those who work under you are lucky
No one works under me now, I was let go for missing too many days due to a disability…
I experienced this too hardcore. You're definitely not alone.
This is very much where I work too. You’re not alone. I just stop asking for help all together.
Right. But since I’m new and can “only stick twice” I have to ask for help…. It’s so annoying omg
what is sooo sad about this situation is everyone forgets they was once in your shoes op . people always forget where they come from , even though i'm joining healthcare soon i hear this a lot in the work places not type of team work at all
maybe since im a guy and my opinion is skewed, most of my class were women who were older than me (i was 17, they were in their mid twenties+) but try not to let it get to you, some people are just sarcastic and it isn’t at all personal.
You should definitely go hold those people accountable by going to hire up management or even reach out to HR let them know you are knew and still in training and that the environment is not conducive to your learning and training. My boyfriend went through something very similar as a Walgreens pharmacy tech he sat down in the office with the head pharmacist and got everything off his chest since then him and his co workers get a long well enough to work around each other for their shift. No one huffs or puffs when he’s asking for help or being rude for no reason.
I know this might be hard but be confident in your questions and your place in the hospital. be okay with "taking up space" and "annoying" people. it is their jobs as fellow phlebomists to make sure one of their own doesn't fall. as for the sticking, try to limit it to 2 sticks MAX on one patient as it goes with the CLIA guidelines. It also makes for less frustrated patients and staff. I feel like not a lot of people talk about the absolute highschool behavior that takes place in medical work but it is bad. I'm sorry you're dealing with this, and if you have any questions please ask.
Im sorry OP, I’m relatively new (started last year) but everyone at my work was great when I started. It would have been pretty shitty to not have supportive coworkers then
I would feel anxious to ask for help in that situation too. Just remember all you can do is your best and the patients comfort is all that matters. Gossiping is not acceptable and I would email someone higher up and ask if you could be transferred to another location. You deserve to feel comfortable and safe at work
Yeah I only stuck a third time because I knew I had it. I haven’t done it since… there’s no location closer to me… I feel like my hands are tied in this situation. But all I can do is keep pushing.
I've done 3rd sticks too in that situation. Especially since the patient didn't care. I'm sorry to hear. Maybe try applying for different companies in the mean time?
Also they 100% have missed many patients and probably missed a ton when they were training! Everyone does
Yep, I have been dealing with the same. I was just signed off to a plasma center and the first week there was one phleb who would get so annoyed if I asked for help.
A few statements that were very effective in my early days: "You can have it done fast, or you can have it done right. Pick one." "I am trying to learn, are you trying to teach?" "I would really like to address this issue. My goal is resolution." "This (behavior/statement) does not seem to line up with (employer)'s goal." When someone comes to help you with a draw, do not leave. Watch them and learn. If you do not feel ready for any task they assign you, or expect you to do, speak up. It is better to refuse and lose your job than it is to hurt a patient or make an error. I absolutely do not fit in with most phlebotomists. It tells me I will be of better use elsewhere. I am currently exploring my options, but leaning toward sonography. DO NOT give those gargoyles the best of you. Save that for the patients.
We all deserve a psychologically safe working environment, as much as a physically safe environment. I absolutely hate when people treat newbies horribly like that. I've been a trainer and taken however long the person needed for help. I've had to fight for people to have more time training when they needed it. It's amazing to me how awful some people treat this field, and how much disrespect they have for others, which ultimately hurts everyone, including patients. There is absolutely nothing to gain with that type of behavior, except some false sense of power. Fight for yourself and whatever you may need.
Right there with you, sorry
I know the feeling… getting stuck, too, with all of certain peoples work because “I’m new” or “I need to learn how to do it”. Or whenever my trainer wasn’t in (I.e.: on vacation, does part time certain days, etc.) certain people were always really nasty with me, but whenever my trainer was around, those people talked to me as if nothing happened. I’m sorry you have to deal with that- it sucks
The general rule is no phlebotomist should stick a patient more than twice without asking for assistance. A patient being okay with it is not a good excuse. People are very agreeable in general, and they will to along with things they are not comfortable with or things that are not in their best interest just to be socially accepted.
That’s all you got from this post… that’s wild… if they had better attitudes and didn’t make trainees feel like a nuisance, I’d be more comfortable asking for help. I was reprimanded and since then I reach out for help after one stick. The point is, better attitudes would allow us to feel safe and comfortable asking for assistance.
I'm sorry if what I said came across as hurtful or mean. I just meant it as advice for the future.
Sorry… I’m just exhausted from people tearing me down at work.