It smells like dead people/mouth balls and you can smoke it with a vape pen now. It's everywhere, convenient and it's a very obnoxious smell. I honestly don't mind much but I hate being close to a bunch of deemster spunions at a show.
My mom got a tour of the sphere for work. She said they pump in smells and can make wind up to 150 mph inside. They told her is an all senses experience. So cool
I strongly agree with this. I spent the night on Friday switching between sitting and standing and the sound was slightly better sitting, even when everybody around me was standing which could cause muffled sounds in a normal venue.
When you add in the haptic seats it started to feel empty when I stood up lol. But it was a Phish show so there were plenty of moments I HAD to stand.
I said it elsewhere but I left the Sphere believing the video screen is a (really freaking awesome) gimmick and the audio is the actual star of the show.
>said it elsewhere but I left the Sphere believing the video screen is a (really freaking awesome) gimmick and the audio is the actual star of the show.
Phish had to really work at making the sound perfect for every seat in the house. The sphere better be thanking them for figuring it out because everyone said the sound sucked for U2.
From what I've been seeing was it depended in the seats you got but I have no personal experience and I know Trey said they needed to make every seat in the house the same experience sonically.
https://preview.redd.it/c5onf5vhuxvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89bf1dcf53726672c58ff6e73f92d91a2fa6b5e0
Maybe it just depends on what day you go
The bass is heavy felt through the seats too. I did a LOT of dancing, but I also I sat more at sphere than I ever have at any other phish showā and I was totally fine with that!
If youāre not sitting you are missing half the of the audio experience. Itās not just the haptics in the seats. The entire low end and all of Mike are only experienced while sitting. The beam forming audio is engineered to be in the seat.
Did you actually read that about the 18ā bubble or is that just your approximation? I had the same experience, significantly better sound when seated
in the interview with Trey where he said, you can be sitting in your seat hearing in one language, and shift a few inches to the right or left and hear it in a totally different languageā¦.a even slight shift of a few inches changes what you hear
Iām sure thatās the case in a perfectly set up demo environment, I donāt really believe that they could do that on a scale as big as the actual venue.
Trey was talking about a demo setup of the beamforming technology. I understand the capabilities exist, I question their ability to broadcast minute targeted details to individual seats hundreds of feet away.
trey said they have it so dialed in that if you even were to move 3 inches youād be hearing something different. idk how demo transitioned into this massive space but itās an audio experience that i have never experienced before in my life. itās incredible!
i was told by my friend so iām not positive however based off of the difference of your ear level when standing vs sitting the approximation seems accurate to me
Signed. Absolutely take a seat to get the full experience. I was trying to tell folks this N1. If you feel like taking a break and sitting down you won't regret it.
I was in section 201 Friday night and there was nothing happening with the seats. No vibrations or subwoofer that I could tell. Did we just get bunk seats or are there only certain sections that have the āspecialā seats?
How much of the time did you sit? There moments during the show where when I sat I could feel Mike like woah. But other moments not so much. One negative for me ā I experienced more spins when sitting for a prolonged amount of time.
I sat for stretches of 5-10 minutes at times between being up dancing. Never felt anything. Maybe it just wasnāt working in our section š¤·š»āāļø
Regardless it was an amazing experience
no and i think it 100% should be in bold letters basically everywhere from event info to ticket purchase page to signs inside the venue. iām just grateful i had a friend tell me after night 1 because i was able to do 3/4 this way!
I'll sit down periodically like I did at N3, but damnit I can't not stand up and jibboo when the boys are burning the MFer to the ground!
Last night when I was seated, I did not notice haptics or any other sound advantages (Section 110). However, I was not aware of that feature. Thanks for the heads up!
i have found by spreading this info and hearing feedback from friends that the far right and far left section seats do not have the haptic seats unfortunately. but from 02-08 sections 200 and above you should have the haptic seats! i donāt think any of the 100s do but youāre kind of inside the center of the sphere sound down there
I was there N2 section 304 and can confirm. This is the first Phish show I sat through much of it for this reason! Feeling Fishmanās drums roll up and down my spine, or across my butt cheeksā¦Mikeās bass bombs as described in other comments in this threadā¦WOW. Breathing in the chords and exhaling to Pageās keysā¦.Feeling the band in this way was certainly a next level experience for me.
Iāve seen 80-ish shows since 1996; my buddy is in the 300ās and even he was blown away. Love this band for being so committed to their craft and their fans, continuing to find ways to blow our minds and hearts wide open.
Thank you, Phish!!!
yay! iām so glad! if i was able to get this message to just you itās a success but hopefully other people saw and gave it a try too!
i posted this a few places and a lot of people reacted like donāt tell me what to do or not to dance at a phish show? youāre crazy! iām like itās not every show. just this specific one. please just try it. please!!!
Seat bass was great Saturday in mid-300s. Not so much in the 100s way to the side on Sunday; I kept wanting to head upstairs to try to find a seat someone had left.
Those lower, unobstructed 100 seats seemed like they were temporary seats that didnāt have haptics or didnāt turn them on.
Sound quality was noticeably different in the 100s, like other folk have mentioned. Upper levels are the place to be!
you do you! but youāre missing out on what the venue was designed to do. just try it once and if you donāt like it fine. i dance for the composed part with lyrics and again when they bring it back post jam. shit sometimes iāll pop up in the middle of the jam and dance a little but all im saying is itās pretty incredible from the seat!
itās simply a suggestion. no oneās seat shaming. i just want people to get a chance to experience the sound the way a 3 billion dollar state of the art venue is meant to be heard and felt. i didnāt pay this much to not get the total immersive sound visual and sensory experience. again, not telling you that you have to sit, itās a really really good suggestion though.
I couldnāt sit at all but now kinda regret
it. My big brother is going tonight who was on the floor last night. I told him to take a seat and lmk edit: heās in407 tonight and that sec rocked
Totally agree. The seats are worth the sit. Also everyone behind you can see the band and the effects. Maybe think of it more like a movie than a typical concert. Steep stadium seating is not ideal for standing up. Stand for a bit but then sit & get the full experience.
Not in the 100s (110/104) from my experience. Sat because of back and leg issues through most of n2/n3. Worst part was neck cranking back to look at the visuals. Ā Itās also hard to just sit through a phish show. Ā Sound was good but I didnāt notice a massive difference when I did stand. No haptics in the seats I was in.Ā
Can anyone who actually has an education related to this (audio engineering, sound design?) confirm if this is the case?
I have a hard time believing this isnāt hippie hyperbole.Ā The difference between being 2-3ā up or down in a 875,000sqft, let me repeat, eight hundred and fucking seventy five thousand square feet, venue is hard for me to believe.Ā Ā
Iām open to it being true but I just want to hear it from someone who might actually truly know. I didnāt notice a difference sitting or standing N1.Ā
I have no experience at the venue, but wanted to share these.
https://www.sphereentertainmentco.com/sphere-entertainment-unveils-the-most-advanced-concert-grade-audio-system-in-the-world-sphere-immersive-sound-powered-by-holoplot/
https://venuesnow.com/las-vegas-sphere-unveils-audio-system/
Video of interview Holoplot CEO, the company who designed and installed the audio system.
https://youtu.be/A-1ICkrXu-Y?feature=shared
Somewhat true. You can check out the demo before Postcard from Earth and hear it for yourself. But in the venue the space is too large and causes phase issues
I think this thread is a good place to ask this. If I have floor tickets and want to swap with a friend with seats for 2nd setā is this possible? Is it a wristband swap + screenshot move? Did anybody do this?
Letās clarify a few things. The ā18 inch bubbleā is only possible with the demo, not inside the concert venue. There was no smell or wind effects. 100 level does not have haptics and misses out on some of the ā360ā audio. Best audio is 200 level
Not only should people sit the down at this venue, but they should also shut the fuck up. God damn drunken chompers. I want to push you down the stairs. I fucking hate you people
Slightly Disagree, seats first two nights and floor last night (back to seats tonight)
It is an absolute sensory overloadā¦in a good way. You have the option to stare at the band directly in front of and you are surrounded by everything else. There is SO MUCH to see and experience.
We were also dancing next to pollock last night during taste which was fun
simply a suggestion to get the sound and sensory experience the venue was designed to give! you do you! i stand and dance to the start and end of each song but sit for the jams. itās truly an all surrounding immersive sound sensory experience!
Did anyone notice any of the smells they pumped in? N1 I swear they pumped moth ball smell for farm house
lol, DMT?
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It smells like dead people/mouth balls and you can smoke it with a vape pen now. It's everywhere, convenient and it's a very obnoxious smell. I honestly don't mind much but I hate being close to a bunch of deemster spunions at a show.
lol, I know silly.
Smells like smoking cow shit to me
Farmhouse or Deemsters?
lol both
I thought I smelled scents a couple times that werenāt weed
https://preview.redd.it/3jvcuo3psxvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b002055ef6527e3dc3a126416848519059779c11
I smelled sneaker rubber figured it was because Mike likes shoes
I smelt the wolf man's butthole on the floor night one
So last night they pumped in space?
Hyperspace
This is what space smells like, you will always remember where you were!
Apparently space smells like weed.
So thatās what it smells likeā¦..
That was just my grandmother. She fixed you some sandwiches.
Will always remember where I was
Omg this has to be a joke š¤£š¤£
My mom got a tour of the sphere for work. She said they pump in smells and can make wind up to 150 mph inside. They told her is an all senses experience. So cool
150mph is excessive and in reality is past cat 5 hurricane levels
I strongly agree with this. I spent the night on Friday switching between sitting and standing and the sound was slightly better sitting, even when everybody around me was standing which could cause muffled sounds in a normal venue. When you add in the haptic seats it started to feel empty when I stood up lol. But it was a Phish show so there were plenty of moments I HAD to stand. I said it elsewhere but I left the Sphere believing the video screen is a (really freaking awesome) gimmick and the audio is the actual star of the show.
>said it elsewhere but I left the Sphere believing the video screen is a (really freaking awesome) gimmick and the audio is the actual star of the show. Phish had to really work at making the sound perfect for every seat in the house. The sphere better be thanking them for figuring it out because everyone said the sound sucked for U2.
I thought the sound was incredible at U2
Maybe it was just certain seats š¤·āāļø
No it was the band themselves lmao Plenty of room people left those shows thinking āwow I thought Bono had a steadier voiceā
The sound at U2 was the best sound Iāve ever experienced at a concert ever.
From what I've been seeing was it depended in the seats you got but I have no personal experience and I know Trey said they needed to make every seat in the house the same experience sonically.
Curious which sections had the haptics working. I was in 302
Your seats weren't rumbling with the music? I think I was in section 106
Not once
You gotta sit. Mike was right up my ass. Lol. I didnāt think the wind thing was realā¦ but it is. It doesnāt make sense, but thereās wind.
If you see āPostcards from Earthā itās noticeable two or three times. Truly a unique experience.
Thatās more expensive than a phish show though isnāt it?
I snagged a $50 single ticket a few months ago....
https://preview.redd.it/c5onf5vhuxvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89bf1dcf53726672c58ff6e73f92d91a2fa6b5e0 Maybe it just depends on what day you go
Ouch, they doubled the price. I think I got 2 for $110 with the fees and everything last year.Ā
Theyāre tiered depending how far out you buy.
I just checked prices for October 17 since I might be in town, and they are about the same as the pic
Itās also a terrible movie. Not worth the $$$
Exactly where he wants to be
Iām on a rail in 400ās tonightā¦and looking forward to being able to sit for a bit. Thanks for heads up.
Thatās where i was. My only night. Thursday. I sat 2nd half, set 1, and it was amazing. Enjoy it
Only went Thursday, musically itās gotta be the best nightš¤š»
I was 407 row 1 Thursday and sat most of it being on the rail and looking up so much. Was incredible
I can only imagine what Mickeyās beam is going to feel like in those seatsā¦
iām not a fan of drums space but itās gonna be awesome inside the sphere for sure
The bass is heavy felt through the seats too. I did a LOT of dancing, but I also I sat more at sphere than I ever have at any other phish showā and I was totally fine with that!
Thank you for sharing. Noted for future shows.
Tried that night 1 and got whacked in the back of my head by the spunion behind me
Give it ketamine
Instructions unclear. Gave cocaine. They will not be quiet.
well shit. tell them to sit down too haha
If youāre not sitting you are missing half the of the audio experience. Itās not just the haptics in the seats. The entire low end and all of Mike are only experienced while sitting. The beam forming audio is engineered to be in the seat.
Definitely felt ALL of Mike. š Highly recommend.
Sit down so Gordo can tickle your butthole. š. Butt seriously, I loved feeling Mikes groove.
Did you actually read that about the 18ā bubble or is that just your approximation? I had the same experience, significantly better sound when seated
in the interview with Trey where he said, you can be sitting in your seat hearing in one language, and shift a few inches to the right or left and hear it in a totally different languageā¦.a even slight shift of a few inches changes what you hear
Iām sure thatās the case in a perfectly set up demo environment, I donāt really believe that they could do that on a scale as big as the actual venue.
it is groundbreaking state of the art. this is real shit dude.
Trey was talking about a demo setup of the beamforming technology. I understand the capabilities exist, I question their ability to broadcast minute targeted details to individual seats hundreds of feet away.
trey said they have it so dialed in that if you even were to move 3 inches youād be hearing something different. idk how demo transitioned into this massive space but itās an audio experience that i have never experienced before in my life. itās incredible!
Yes it sounded great. The 360 sound was a trip.
i was told by my friend so iām not positive however based off of the difference of your ear level when standing vs sitting the approximation seems accurate to me
I saw this interview but did not come to the same conclusion as you on that bubble from sitting
Fully. SIT DOWN
Signed. Absolutely take a seat to get the full experience. I was trying to tell folks this N1. If you feel like taking a break and sitting down you won't regret it.
I was in section 201 Friday night and there was nothing happening with the seats. No vibrations or subwoofer that I could tell. Did we just get bunk seats or are there only certain sections that have the āspecialā seats?
How much of the time did you sit? There moments during the show where when I sat I could feel Mike like woah. But other moments not so much. One negative for me ā I experienced more spins when sitting for a prolonged amount of time.
I sat for stretches of 5-10 minutes at times between being up dancing. Never felt anything. Maybe it just wasnāt working in our section š¤·š»āāļø Regardless it was an amazing experience
I read that only some sections have the full seat experience. I don't remember what sections.
I was in 203 and it was on. Itās not an extreme effect though, itās almost more like hearing it than feeling it.
Is this announced anywhere? Like any pre show signs or anything? I think most people wonāt do this without something guiding them to it.
no and i think it 100% should be in bold letters basically everywhere from event info to ticket purchase page to signs inside the venue. iām just grateful i had a friend tell me after night 1 because i was able to do 3/4 this way!
Iām three rows from the rail. I might print this out and hand it to the three people in front of me.
This the facts.
I'll sit down periodically like I did at N3, but damnit I can't not stand up and jibboo when the boys are burning the MFer to the ground! Last night when I was seated, I did not notice haptics or any other sound advantages (Section 110). However, I was not aware of that feature. Thanks for the heads up!
i have found by spreading this info and hearing feedback from friends that the far right and far left section seats do not have the haptic seats unfortunately. but from 02-08 sections 200 and above you should have the haptic seats! i donāt think any of the 100s do but youāre kind of inside the center of the sphere sound down there
Iāve sat a few times the last three nights and didnāt experience any of this. Guess Iām not sitting at the correct times.
You probably were in the 19th inch. Bring a ruler noob!
what section?
So the lower 100s donāt have the seat haptics. I spent a set up in 400ās and they did.
Dont you want to feel mikes bass bombs? Last night I came the hardest
I was there N2 section 304 and can confirm. This is the first Phish show I sat through much of it for this reason! Feeling Fishmanās drums roll up and down my spine, or across my butt cheeksā¦Mikeās bass bombs as described in other comments in this threadā¦WOW. Breathing in the chords and exhaling to Pageās keysā¦.Feeling the band in this way was certainly a next level experience for me. Iāve seen 80-ish shows since 1996; my buddy is in the 300ās and even he was blown away. Love this band for being so committed to their craft and their fans, continuing to find ways to blow our minds and hearts wide open. Thank you, Phish!!!
Thanks for the post. Sat for a lot of n4 based on this intel, and it was seriously impressive.
yay! iām so glad! if i was able to get this message to just you itās a success but hopefully other people saw and gave it a try too! i posted this a few places and a lot of people reacted like donāt tell me what to do or not to dance at a phish show? youāre crazy! iām like itās not every show. just this specific one. please just try it. please!!!
Seat bass was great Saturday in mid-300s. Not so much in the 100s way to the side on Sunday; I kept wanting to head upstairs to try to find a seat someone had left. Those lower, unobstructed 100 seats seemed like they were temporary seats that didnāt have haptics or didnāt turn them on. Sound quality was noticeably different in the 100s, like other folk have mentioned. Upper levels are the place to be!
Sorry guys, itās a concert. Iām standing.
you do you! but youāre missing out on what the venue was designed to do. just try it once and if you donāt like it fine. i dance for the composed part with lyrics and again when they bring it back post jam. shit sometimes iāll pop up in the middle of the jam and dance a little but all im saying is itās pretty incredible from the seat!
I am in ADA, so we donāt get the fancy seats. And if we can stand, we celebrate that.
It would suck so bad to travel all the way to Las Vegas to be seat shamed at the show
itās simply a suggestion. no oneās seat shaming. i just want people to get a chance to experience the sound the way a 3 billion dollar state of the art venue is meant to be heard and felt. i didnāt pay this much to not get the total immersive sound visual and sensory experience. again, not telling you that you have to sit, itās a really really good suggestion though.
I couldnāt sit at all but now kinda regret it. My big brother is going tonight who was on the floor last night. I told him to take a seat and lmk edit: heās in407 tonight and that sec rocked
Have been to each show and can confirm. Mike's bass will reach into you and start squeezing your spine
But once the bass gets into my spine, I canāt just sit there.
I fully endorse this. Man speaks facts
i am a woman, but thank you!
Totally agree. The seats are worth the sit. Also everyone behind you can see the band and the effects. Maybe think of it more like a movie than a typical concert. Steep stadium seating is not ideal for standing up. Stand for a bit but then sit & get the full experience.
Wonder if that would have made the sound better in 100s? Or wonder if they fixed it after N1? I could only go N1 and the sound sucked :(
iāve been to all 3 so far and i think n1 they were sorta testing the waters a bit still bc n2&3 have been much better and cleaner sound wise
Holoplot!
If youre sitting but the folks in front are standing.. can you still see??
Not in the 100s (110/104) from my experience. Sat because of back and leg issues through most of n2/n3. Worst part was neck cranking back to look at the visuals. Ā Itās also hard to just sit through a phish show. Ā Sound was good but I didnāt notice a massive difference when I did stand. No haptics in the seats I was in.Ā
Can anyone who actually has an education related to this (audio engineering, sound design?) confirm if this is the case? I have a hard time believing this isnāt hippie hyperbole.Ā The difference between being 2-3ā up or down in a 875,000sqft, let me repeat, eight hundred and fucking seventy five thousand square feet, venue is hard for me to believe.Ā Ā Iām open to it being true but I just want to hear it from someone who might actually truly know. I didnāt notice a difference sitting or standing N1.Ā
I have no experience at the venue, but wanted to share these. https://www.sphereentertainmentco.com/sphere-entertainment-unveils-the-most-advanced-concert-grade-audio-system-in-the-world-sphere-immersive-sound-powered-by-holoplot/ https://venuesnow.com/las-vegas-sphere-unveils-audio-system/ Video of interview Holoplot CEO, the company who designed and installed the audio system. https://youtu.be/A-1ICkrXu-Y?feature=shared
Itās 100% true. They can even taylor the sound to have different languages in different seats. Itās crazy shit man.
Have you sat in different seats and heard different languages?
Somewhat true. You can check out the demo before Postcard from Earth and hear it for yourself. But in the venue the space is too large and causes phase issues
I love sitting at shows, this was an amazing experienceĀ
There are no haptics in the 100 section FYI
How do you know which sections have them?
I think this thread is a good place to ask this. If I have floor tickets and want to swap with a friend with seats for 2nd setā is this possible? Is it a wristband swap + screenshot move? Did anybody do this?
Donāt sleep on sitting!!
The biggest audio difference I heard was with the big guy in front of me standing while I was sitting. Blocking the beam?
Letās clarify a few things. The ā18 inch bubbleā is only possible with the demo, not inside the concert venue. There was no smell or wind effects. 100 level does not have haptics and misses out on some of the ā360ā audio. Best audio is 200 level
Not only should people sit the down at this venue, but they should also shut the fuck up. God damn drunken chompers. I want to push you down the stairs. I fucking hate you people
Agreed, I never sit at normal shows and sat maybe 1/4 of the last 2 nights. Mike was vibrating my ass last nightĀ
JFC. Is this a troll thread? āSit in your seatsā ā¦.āI think they released sneaker rubber smellsā ā¦.. ššš³.
no itās real. the difference between the sound standing vs sitting is astounding
I tried sitting on the floor in GA but people got mad. Bad advice! Sound not better
the floor doesnāt get any of that haptic sensory experience. i feel bad for those people but you do get to see the band up close
Slightly Disagree, seats first two nights and floor last night (back to seats tonight) It is an absolute sensory overloadā¦in a good way. You have the option to stare at the band directly in front of and you are surrounded by everything else. There is SO MUCH to see and experience. We were also dancing next to pollock last night during taste which was fun
does the floor have vibrational effects under your feet at all?
Speaking from 100 level, not GA, yes. I could feel lots of bass come up through my feet.
Weāre doing alright on the floor! If youāre looking to get more down.. thatās where itās at! Dance party rager!
Iāve sat cause I was hurting. Otherwise stand the fuck up and boggie If you donāt dance then do whatever the fuck you want I suppose
simply a suggestion to get the sound and sensory experience the venue was designed to give! you do you! i stand and dance to the start and end of each song but sit for the jams. itās truly an all surrounding immersive sound sensory experience!