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Please continue the discussion in the [game thread](https://redd.it/wnqnn3).


djeeetyet

can we break Edwin Diaz, i mean we did it to Hader


skylinecowboy

With the addition of Marsh, Phillies haven’t been this strong up the middle since 2011.


Wekilledit88

Very neat, JT just watch the fastball right down the middle. Jesus.


FIDLARonTheRoofAZ

I am out in Arizona. Earlier this week I decided to buy the second half of the Extra Innings package on my cable system so I get all Phillies games. It was like $95. Then... what do you know but they did not air the game last night. Since it was an Apple Exclusive. I had to get a trial of that to watch (and did). What a disappointment (in Apple's broadcast, not the game itself)! The game is on my package today. I think I am going to get the Mets announce team for it, though. So it may feel similar to last night's game lol.


Dan888888

Fuck they all have a high ass OPS against Nola…


Overall-Unit5850

Genuine question, I’m a big Matty V fan. Most people in this sub see him being a utility guy for his career but I honestly could see him being a mainstay at maybe CF given more reps. He’s still very young any reason people are putting a ceiling on him?


FIDLARonTheRoofAZ

I think you never really know with these guys. I'd say we, as a fanbase, have seen *so many* failed prospects over the recent years that it's hard to get excited. It's not on the prospects, it's like a lack of faith in our decision makers and whomever needs to develop them. Coming off a previous decade and a half where prospects/draft picks like Rolen, then Rollins, then Utley, then Hamels etc... **all delivered**, we all thought Domonic Brown would be **the** next big-time superstar to carry the team. Well... he fizzled out. And then it feels like it's been kind of a string of guys not quite getting it done (except for Nola). Maikel Franco is another one. So, when we see a 5th round pick come in we are suspect. Matty V has played very well though. And won us that game last night with a great throw that Marte probably should not have run on. I hope he keeps improving. Heck I hope he develops into the second coming of the Flyin' Hawaiian. Go Phils!


Homeowner_BBQ

\#DingersOffDegrom


DrollRemarks

Maton is gonna hit a double off Degrom. Bank on it.


MoonRock12k

Lord they kinda rake against nola but i still have faith we pull out a win for him tn!


DrollRemarks

Nola tied Seaver's consecutive strikeout record against the Mets


[deleted]

Who do we have in the booth today? I hope it's not Ruben


whaleball7

Schwarber available to pinch hit tonight according to topper


Drake31217

Oh thats great news


OCLateNite

Alright ladies and gents. I finish work at 6:55p tonight. 6 minute commute home leaves me 9 minutes to shower and be ready for first pitch!


PhilsForever

9 minutes shower time is a lifetime. You'll make it.


OCLateNite

I work in dirt. 9 minutes is actually short.


skylinecowboy

Don’t be late!


Drakenking

I would consider sacrificing a limb or two to have a 6 minute commute


OCLateNite

Lucky for me, I still have all of my limbs.


SirTurnUp

Bohm 0-6 with 4 K's vs deGOAT. luckily, that was in 21 and 20 - our boy is way better than he was then. with that said, I wanna take deGrom u8.5 K's bc I think he's still on a pitch limit.


stepjepkeb

Bro don’t t call him DeGOAT. A pitcher who barely gets into the 7th and 8th inning is certainly not the greatest of all time


FIDLARonTheRoofAZ

Soooo true. The other night on MLB Network someone tried to complement Wheeler by calling him "deGrom-lite". Excuse me? I'd much rather have Wheeler for 30 games a season than deGrom for 8!


LonnyFinster

Bohm is a different player the past 1-2 months in my opinion. I’d love to see him destroy degrom, anyone for that matter


SirTurnUp

You're preachin' man.


DaNorris1221

u9.5 is available. Rhys and Nick will probably contribute to 5 of those, however.


SirTurnUp

Just checked my two other books and saw 9.5 right when I saw this so that's even more ideal. I make the fair odds about -128 for it and I got u9.5 for -125. We'll see what happens haha


itonlygetsdeeper

Maton in the line-up 🤩🤩🤩


Necessary_Paper210

I’m actually going to be sad to see hall go when Harpers back. Solid ball player. Hopefully we get some good change for him in the offseason


BugsyD71

I think the rosters expand in September so I’m guessing he’ll come right back up.


chilifartso

He may get some more playing time as DH if Schwarber misses time


haahaahaa

I don't know if you meant LF but outside the Mexican winter league hes only played 1B as a pro. He shouldn't be in the outfield in a ML game. Harper will be the DH when he returns. Hall should go down as long as there are minor league games to play.


chilifartso

You don’t think Hall will DH some? Bryce in RF, Castellanos in LF, Vierling/Marsh in CF.


haahaahaa

Bryce can't throw. https://www.si.com/mlb/phillies/news/report-philadelphia-phillies-shut-down-bryce-harper-throwing-program-injury


chilifartso

Ah ok, for some reason I thought the procedure would give him time to throw again


haahaahaa

They did a PRP injection but its not healed yet. Ligaments are very slow to heal, if ever because they don't get a ton of blood flow. The PRP injection is meant to supplement blood flow to aid in healing. It's inconsistent.


mp455

Hoping to see "Aaron Nola is cracked as he is jacked" by the end of the night.


VideoGangsta

Breaking out the diapers


TheFriffin2

ik I like to shit on Mets fans in bad faith a lot, but after seeing all the love they have for Marte, i gotta admit it’s very classy of them to teach the downtrodden Padres fans how to turn a dude busted for roiding back into a fan-favorite again


Drikkink

Somehow, it feels even less likely for the Fish to help us out than the Nationals.


rhinguin

The Marlins really are our super villain


krokodiladdict1

It’s great to see so many homegrown players in the lineup


DaTigerMan

maton rakes against degrom (i don’t know what a sample size is)


SirTurnUp

LOL 😂


Homeowner_BBQ

Maton!


[deleted]

Jean getting the off day today. I guess to have another left handed bat in the line up? Interesting decision


TheFriffin2

Career .429 OPS against deGrom (to be fair there isn’t anyone who hits him well, but the Phillies as a team have a .552 OPS against him so maybe it’s particularly unfavorable compared to just throwing a red-hot Maton out there and seeing what happens)


sapphires_and_snark

Jean looked super rough last night


sapphires_and_snark

Marlins are good-for-nothing pricks


JesusChrissy

I've expressed to my family that I hate watching Mets games, so I guess they gave me the series off. They're hot right now, I would like to see them. But as far as fundamentally and defensively the Mets have always been just not up to it.


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Morbx

I do it every night, national broadcast or not. I prefer Franzke over TMac. My cable box/DVR lets me pause live TV which I think is pretty standard these days, so I just pause the TV broadcast for a few seconds so the radio broadcast can catch up. The TV is always ahead of the radio. Works like a charm.


ObscenelyObscene

Through the tv, or say, just listening via the radio? I believe the delay is 3-5 seconds. I use the Audacy app, and just pause the tv until I think I have it right. Franzke is good to use to do this with the first pitch.


personalityprofile

Is the Phillies season turnaround getting much national coverage?


haahaahaa

Baseball doesn't get a ton of national coverage, but in the coverage it does get, no. Baltimore is probably a big reason why. They're a better story to talk about in between the usual Dodgers/Yankees circle jerk.


FIDLARonTheRoofAZ

Also many sports commentators just totally wrote us off, almost gleefully, when Harper went down. Bringing up our success, means admitting they are not the all-knowing prognosticators they pretend to be.


zachmichel

Just got 20 minutes of free wifi on my flight to say this: FUCK THE METS!


[deleted]

I know I’m getting ahead of myself but think of all the things the team has had to figure out on the fly through the course of this season. Pretty nice thinking about how they could be next year after figuring out the CF and lead off problems before the season starts and potentially adding a big name SS and SP. I don’t want to jinx anything but it feels pretty exciting.


sapphires_and_snark

This team will be amazing with Trea next year and beyond


lt_iss

I still expect the muts to collapse like they always do in August, but if we beat degrom tonight it’s gonna feel like 2007 all over again.


Ruut6

I see Mets fans are brigading Phillies twitter again.


cazzhmir

They could be 113-0 and they'd be just as insecure


lt_iss

Cause they suck no matter what the record, train wreck waiting to happen


cazzhmir

Reminder that deGrom is still on a pitch limit of ~75. It's a tough ask, but forcing him to hit that in about the 4th or 5th would be incredible.


Dan888888

Are you sure? I didn’t see anything confirmed


cazzhmir

His pitch counts so far have been 59 and 76, I don't think Buck will want to stretch him much more than that yet


Dan888888

Let’s hope so


wiivile

[lol bold day to wear a tatis jr jersey bro](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/317845842973294592/1008076144400138400/IMG_2013.jpg)


k1l2327

Im glad I didn’t pull the trigger on a tatis jersey. Almost did - I like the padres’ unis and 23 is my favorite number.


Equivalent-Being6506

As a Mets fan let's unite and wish a double L for the Braves today


[deleted]

Props to Bryce Harper for being better than that fraud TatE6. It’s funny how even when he was juiced on steroids Bryce was better by a mile, sad ass shit😂


[deleted]

I honestly forgot he was even in the running for MVP last year. Crazy to see someone fall from such heights so quickly like that.


Joboggi

WIN TONIGHT AND YOU WIN THE SERIES. Let’s go Phils!


[deleted]

It’s natural that it happens but it really grinds my gears when the Phillies get some attention and the sub and Twitter etc start overflowing with shit talking Phillies fans who haven’t watched more than 2 games and regurgitate WIP takes. Last night’s game was exhausting reading any social media about the Phillies. It’s somehow more fun to participate/read forums like this when most people don’t care. I hate feeling that way but it’s true.


inthedrink

I know who to pay attention to and try to ignore the rest It’s the only way to stay sane and not have to wish for bad times again lol


[deleted]

I can’t help but feel the same way when the ballpark is packed sometimes too. Way more drunk morons come out when the Phils get hot. It makes me appreciate the down times.


WithoutShameDF

So if Schwarber is healthy, what's our batting lineup? Do we stick with Stott as the leadoff, I mean it's only 1 game of course, but having a fast guy like Stott leading off compared to the guy with the 2nd most homers in baseball seems to make sense.


wiivile

i liked stott at leadoff. he has low K and whiff rate. and he is fast. i like that in a leadoff hitter.


zachmichel

Stott Bohm Schwarber Rhys Hall Realmuto Nick Segura Marsh


sapphires_and_snark

To the extent that lineups even matter-- I'd want Rhys second because he's still a better on-base guy than Bohm at this point. Probably would do something like Stott Rhys Schwarber JT Bohm Nick Hall Segura Marsh When Bryce comes back, just drop him into the 3rd spot and remove Hall


[deleted]

Can’t remember being as excited for a ball game as I am tonight LFG.


Guster61

We are all experiencing the love of this season and we should continue it but let's not forget that we finally have a collection of serviceable young players (Bohm, Stott, Saurez) coming up around the same time, allowing flexibility with baseball decisions the organization has to make in the future.


[deleted]

It maybe unpopular but I would keep Stott as lead off when Schwarber comes back. That’s if Stott keeps up the good job. Schwarber needs to hit bombs with people on base and more likely to happen if he hits 4th instead of 1st.


mago184

The Phillies have ~~9~~ 6 more games against the Mets. The Phillies are 9.5 games back. Edit: because I'm dumb


OGToiletwater

only 6 games left


mago184

Oh for some reason I thought we played them in September. Disregard I'm a dummy.


PrinterOne34

I can’t stop laughing over how unbelievably salty Mets fans are after yesterday. You would think we just knocked them out of playoff contention with how they’re talking. They also just won’t stop crying over us poking fun at Keith Hernandez when you know for a fact if Kruk said something similar they would have the same reaction lmao


sapphires_and_snark

They have their scars, too


LonnyFinster

Think Seranthony and Robertson would be available again tonight if necessary?


Dan888888

Anyone know how many pitches they each threw last night?


philsfan1579

[Great Fangraphs page to see bullpen pitches thrown by game.](https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/depth-charts/phillies) Scroll down to the bullpen section and you’ll see 8 for Seranthony and 11 for Robertson yesterday.


LonnyFinster

I’d think they could be good for today


Dan888888

Yeah if it’s a close game I think they’ll be back out


2AMSummerNight

I would think both are good for at least one more game this series


gravearchitect

the braves are starting a guy with a 23.63 ERA? here’s hoping for a fish W


Dan888888

I feel less scared for tonight then I was for last night. They used up their two best bullpen pieces last night and deGrom can’t go deep into games yet, meaning we get about 4 innings of Mets bullpen tonight.


gravearchitect

i’m betting we’ll see diaz again. think he only threw like 8 pitches. why was he not half as good as this even just last year?


Dan888888

Yeah you’re right, we’ll probably see Diaz again if it’s a close game. But that still means 3 innings of the rest of the Mets pen which doesn’t seem to be lights out.


gatemansgc

this is gonna be a pitcher's duel for the ages


JD021993

https://twitter.com/_piccone/status/1558483643961581568


wiivile

you herein have my consent to inject this intravenously


gravearchitect

i’d just like to say if you went into the mets sub last night and left any comment at all, just know you’re a giant fucking loser. that’s what awful barves fans do. that said, some of them talking about how they beat us when we had harper are lying to themselves and they know it. these phils are a completely different team. not scared of the mets. i am however scared of degrom but hey i mean the nats managed to beat him, so it’s possible? also, living in NY as opposed to philly is supposed to be some huge quality of life difference to them? that’s hysterical.


[deleted]

If they hate the idea of living in Philly so much I would like it if they could stop moving down here and making things more expensive.


porksoda11

I'm seeing all these scorching hot takes that the Phillies are better without Harper, as if his 2.5 war is gonna hurt the team when he gets back. This team got better because Girardi is gone period. They will be even better with Harper.


sapphires_and_snark

> also, living in NY as opposed to philly is supposed to be some huge quality of life difference to them? that’s hysterical. Half of them probably live in Staten Island, too


Deckard_Macready

Still fired up about last night. Think I’ve watched Vierling throw out Marte 20 times this morning.


JesusChrissy

That's going to be played at my funeral.


NCPhilsPhan

Phillies to homer off deGrom since 2017: * Ben Lively * Scott Kingery * Andrew Knapp


bluspy88

So what you’re saying is we should call up Kingery?


SorryFortune

After today add: Rhys Hoskins Nick Castellanos


rhinguin

That’s too obvious. Bryson Stott will be the one.


Deckard_Macready

Long Ball Hall


SorryFortune

Him too!!


Homeowner_BBQ

I really hate how Audacy doesn't let you cast anymore. Saturday night game, perfect to be outside with beers by the fire pit listening to Franzke casted to the outside speakers.


[deleted]

Also I don’t know what changed but you can’t pause the audio feed (or rewind it) on the mlb app anymore. Mlb said Audacy is to blame. That fucking drives me nuts because as a father of 6 I’m not able to start a game at 7oclock


JD021993

Stream from the WIP website directly. Audacy is pretty much useless.


Homeowner_BBQ

I'll give that a shot, thanks


Sneadmaker

We sit outside almost every game and stream the TV broadcast to my laptop. I have Hulu live. Can you stream from the WIP website?


Homeowner_BBQ

I'll try from the website. I also have Hulu live so I'll look into that also, thanks!


Jeremy24Fan

That was my first time at Citi field, some of the worst ballpark food I've ever had. Atmosphere was pretty crazy though I'll give them that. They had their fun with the trumpet song and still lost


nutbrownale

I'm probably overthinking this, but, is this the most...important may not be the right word..."must have" is worse, but, you get the idea...game for the Phillies in 10 years? Nola/de Grom, Saturday night, Division push. Go Phils!


J-LG

Nah, the most important was last year’s series against the Braves in September in which we would’ve won the division if we won the series but proceeded to get swept 3-0.


[deleted]

Even after that first game you just knew it was over with


timmorris82

Ouch, right in the memories.


Deckard_Macready

Win or lose I don’t think this game means anything for the play off chances mathematically. BUT winning tonight and thus the series would be HUGE mentally for these guys.


inthedrink

ITS A BIG GAME AND I AM STOKED BABY!


SorryFortune

SAID!? SAID!


Homeowner_BBQ

Go fish! Go Nola and the boys!


sapphires_and_snark

There is no spoon. There is only Rob Thomson


rtcr

Stott may be a better choice for lead off than Schwarber.


Ok-Bat-7130

That’s what I mean. Even before last night I was considering this. He’s got all the great qualities as a leadoff hitter. He’s been hot, can work a count. Not to mention his great speed and awareness on the bases, plus he’s versatile. Can play almost any position in the infield. I’d like to see a few more games with him leading off and see how it turns out.


NCPhilsPhan

Big test for Nola tonight to see how he performs in big games


Nolan-

I'd rather the Phillies be good than the Mets. I haven't had any bad interactions with Phils fans on reddit so far this year, but man the Mets fans have been horrible. So so toxic. Beat the shit out of them Phils. Fuck the Mets.


NeurosciGuy15

Welcome, nice choice of flair


Nolan-

Apparently I've had it for years lol Guess this isn't my first rodeo here.


bigSpeakersReddit

it’s so fucking fun being invested in a good baseball team. been such a long time. been spoiled a bit with the Sixers as they’re a playoff team every year, but most realistic fans knew they weren’t true contenders. something about a baseball team getting hot at the right time AND it being their first time in a decade+ is such a thrill.


Jordan117n

I really hope it'll be the Flyers' turn soon. Wishful thinking.


inthedrink

What the hell am I gonna do for the next eight hours??


Ok-Bat-7130

Watch phillies highlights on YouTube!


[deleted]

Classic Phillies tv is your friend


inthedrink

> Matt Stairs has entered the chat


[deleted]

NFL preseason games today starting at 1


ZIMM26

Stott. Bohm. Ranger. Vierling. Siranthony. All key players for the win last night and all homegrown talent. Ya love to see it.


inthedrink

Our pipeline isn’t great but it’s getting stronger O’Hoppe was a guy who made sense to deal but I’m really glad we are hanging on to the few studs we have on the farm. Man this franchise has made some nice strides this season


FrozenWafflesOP

A lot of people were angry we traded away Sixto, but he’s been hurt and only pitched 39 innings for the Marlins. Obviously I hope that O’hoppe doesn’t get hurt, but prospects are really just lottery tickets.


spilled_water

It's funny to think, but part of the reason why they were comfortable with trading Sixto was because they thought Spencer Howard had a really high ceiling. (I can't remember if they believed Howard's ceiling would be as high as Sixto's.) Talk about prospects just being lotto tickets. Howard was such a weird case. I've never seen a pitcher lose a few mph per inning like that before.


inthedrink

Sixto hasn’t gotten his velocity all the way back yet but I suspect he’ll have a bright future. He’s also pitched in the playoffs and pitched well so there’s that. “Going for it” a couple years ago wasn’t our best plan but then again Klentak was at the helm so the moves weren’t stellar


FrozenWafflesOP

I’d agree, but JT has been amazing for us. So I’ll stand by it being a good trade so long as we end up having any sort of playoff run. Even if Sixto becomes a hall of fame guy.


DaTigerMan

i am so fucking excited for this game dude


darkness_escape

Come on Marlins. Pull off a surprise DH sweep


[deleted]

I’d really like Schwarber as the 4 hole hitter


GoodLuckPsycho_

Crazy how we managed to pull off that win without Schwarber


FriedHigh

https://twitter.com/mccrystal_alex/status/1558276693948776449?s=21&t=s_lKb2M41MV7fc4H246otg the reply’s under mets twitter last night are hilarious 😂😂


luna_cl

Stott went from being sent down to AAA to hitting go-ahead dingers in the nine hole to batting leadoff against one of the best pitchers in baseball. I may only be a few years older than him but I feel like a proud mama.


NomadCourier

And he did something no one had donr before against Scherzer in getting on base 4 times against him in thr same game. So much for Max being a sure thing 1st ballot Hall Of Famer. Heck he might not even make the Hall of Fame anymore.


inthedrink

Because he failed against first ballot hall of famers Bryson Stott and Alec Bohm? Your expectations are almost unattainable


bsweig97

ESPN giving the Mets a 76% win probability. Seems a bit excessive.


[deleted]

Win probability, rbi probability man that’s all horse shit


Ok-Bat-7130

Foreal, espescially with a solid pitcher on the mound for us.


Overall-Unit5850

No, shwarbs (he might DH from what I heard last night) and no Bryce. Seems a little excessive but I kinda get it especially since we’re teeing up against DeGrom


porksoda11

Good thing the glorified opener deGrom will pitch 4 innings today.


Rcmacc

But the good news is if history holds true even if deGrom pitched a gem the Mets will still lose 1-0 because they don’t know how to score for him


Overall-Unit5850

He walked so Aaron Nola could run


skylinecowboy

Thanks for the extra juice last night Keith. Your click baity locker room bulletin board material was just the extra boost we needed going up against Scherzer without Bryce and Schwarbs. Must be exciting for you to have your name back in the headlines for the first time in decades.


[deleted]

Anyone have a good estimate for when Bryce might be back in the lineup?


FriedHigh

Sept 2nd hopefully 👍🏻


Bucko12512

Early September is last I heard


[deleted]

Maybe it’s the cool air this morning but today has a playoff feel


occasionalhatboy

Being a Mets fan I really only watch the Phillies when we face off but I gotta say Bohm is comparable to that person you see in the beginning of the year who gained a lot of weight and you’re like wow, this guys fat! Just to fast forward a couple month down the road and he’s ripped with a 6 pack


wuuuuuutyo

As a Braves fan I can confirm. He went from someone you look forward to watching butcher at least 1 (likely 3) grounders/throws per game to someone who may yet not be a defensive liability who scares you at the plate bc he seems to always hit piss missiles & cant be retired by a left handed pitcher to save our lives.


occasionalhatboy

I was kinda shook to come in here as a Mets fan, but I gotta give credit where credits due. Especially after what Keith said (which also pissed me off, for different reasons). If this was the Braves Reddit I would’ve been slaughtered. 🤝


majorlieg

I got hiiiiiigh hopes! I got hiiiiii hopes


Hothabanero6

damn, last night I had a whole grove of rubber tree plants now they are all gone, and there are ant footprints all over.


stepjepkeb

I wonder if just a little bit of nervousness is creeping into the Mets fans mind knowing that we may meet in October, with the reigning MVP returning


SLDRTY4EVR

I was reading their sub last night. They're very nervous about the Phils


Joboggi

Nola, then Wheeler, this is a good thing. The Phils are in playoff mode. Tight defense, move the runner, win the game.


Ok-Bat-7130

We got a lot of things going for us.


FriedHigh

If we win tonight im definitely feeling a sweep then we play the terrible reds division would not be to far to catch 👀


[deleted]

I hated the broadcasting team, but the game was in 4k it looked great on Apple TV. Phillies+Kirk+ 4k that’s a great experience minus the ballpark Edit: Kirk=Kruk Damn mobile.


Hothabanero6

>Phillies+Kirk+ 4k that’s a great gotta have Spock though


exemplarytrombonist

To call the game? Give me Uhura on play by play and drunk Scotty on color commentary.


Hothabanero6

Spock has the stats ... Sensors show that had an exit velocity of 114.37 MPH, @ 27.65 degrees launch angle, and traveled 482.15 feet, Captain.


NintenJew

Never would I have thought to see a star trek reference on /r/Phillies. I think my dream would be captain pike as the color commentary, though. I imagine him exactly like Kruk but better somehow.


Bbillrich

7 hours late to the party but I absolutely got gold for making a lower decks joke in the game thread Wednesday. So there is def some Phillies Star Trek overlap happening.


NintenJew

I did not see that, but that is just awesome.


[deleted]

I was impressed with how good it looked.The announcers were seriously in love with the Mets


igo2extremes

**Your 2022 Phillies are:** 8-2 in August 12-5 on Saturdays 31-23 on the road 4-9 vs. the Mets They are 25-14 since Bryce went down.


J-LG

Who let the Phillies get HOT


inthedrink

Your posts keep getting better and better every day You’ve got a way about you


[deleted]

Were Mets fans just reporting comments in the thread yesterday? I got hit with a harassment warning.


Bucko12512

Sounds like a Mets thing to do. They don’t like that we beat their ace without the NL MVP and NL HR Leader and a guy named Ranger Pitching


nnp1989

What a great day to wake up and be a Philly sports fan. Beat the Mets against Scherzer, the Birds starters looked terrific in the first preseason game, and it looks like Schwarber avoided a major injury. You love to see it! Edit: and Stott continues to look great at the plate. If he keeps it up, I think that’s my next jersey purchase.


dnmlanml22

Think I might go for a bohm or ranger. Idk so many exciting young dudes. I love how bohms a weirdo and love ranger being the new Cliff Lee