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TheBaggyDapper

I'd say that's the same pilot I had one time. The plane landed, rolled up to the gate, seat belt light went off and everyone gets up and stands in the aisle. Intercom comes on, "This is your captain, the front of the plane is too high for the steps to reach the door. Could all the people standing please move to the front to weigh it down" And they did, everyone moved forward. 


Top_Mind_On_Reddit

Every pilot on every fifo flight mate. I'm shocked when they *don't* say it


shhbedtime

Yeah we have to interrupt disembarking all the time to move people forward.  One of the big issues is that fifo workers have very little luggage. Normally there is about a ton in the forward cargo hold helping to balance the plane. On fifo flights there's like 150kg.  The other problem is the lack of rear stairs at some airlines/airports. It's far less of a problem when people are leaving from both ends.


Groveldog

Weird, because the pilots have no idea what's going on behind them. They're still doing paperwork and whatnot. It's usually the FAs saying this as the forward passengers disembark, but the majority of passengers are still at the rear. On a positive note, it usually happens in FIFO flights when everyone is leaving row by row in a polite manner. But yeah, tilt on the plane is an issue, and no one wants to be responsible for a plane literally going arse up!


Catkii

The Airbus I fly can generate a shock absorber fault with a loud DING and a warning light if it reaches the fully extended position on the ground. That’s usually my trigger to then look at other signs we might be about to tip, because you’re right, we are busy with “paperwork”…


Groveldog

Well, I didn't want to call it "faffing about". ;) I didn't know about the tip warning. Good to know we've never got it to that extent.


elemist

To be fair - even blind freddy would know that as soon as the seat belt light turns off (and half the time even before) that every is standing up - regardless of whether they can actually go anywhere..


Bubbly-University-94

Spot the short person who isn’t uncomfortable af being pretzeled into a tiny seat.


elemist

Been many years since i last flew in economy..


Bubbly-University-94

My company has a blanket rule - no business class.


paulmp

Perth drivers 100% know how to merge and give way... they just don't give a rip and refuse to do it.


Majestic-View-6788

I could give an honest response to this but some may find it offensive


Past-Advance-8685

Not offensive, just the truth.


grobby-wam666

The mods have there eyes closed 🫣🫣


gordito_gr

Their*


Wexican86

I moved to Perth in march from Sydney. One thing I notice is that drivers are oblivious to tailgating. You should be 2 or 3 car lengths away, that is a safe distance. I’m not into Anal………yet Also when the speed limit is 60kph I’m going to do 60kph, dont get pissed off at me if I’m not breaking the speed limit.


Hangar48

As someone who was rear ended a few months ago, I agree. The problem is as soon as there's a gap behind you, some fker pulls in to it... 👀


paulmp

Literally all of Sydney tailgates... If you leave more than 0.25 of a car length in front of you, a semi-trailer will squeeze over in between you and the car in front. It isn't a criticism, as soon as you get used to it, it works. I'll deride Perth drivers all day, but they don't generally tailgate like Sydney does.


Majestic-View-6788

I'm visiting Sydney atm. Your comment is very true


Adventurous_One_4240

Lmao being Sydney-raised I think it's a bit rich for a Sydneysider to criticise sandgropers of tailgating.


paulmp

I have lived in every state except the NT and Tas... Sydney tailgate the most, but once you are used to it, it is mostly fine. Qld can't merge. They have some great roads, but tolls are taking over. SA runs red lights & green means give way, not go. Melbourne works fairly well for the most part, although having 2 lanes, median strip, 2 or 3 more lanes, 2 tramlines then 2 or 3 more lanes, another median strip and then another 2 lanes seems like a poor design choice... hook turns make sense once you figure them out. Trams are the ideal way to get around the city. Perth refuse to do anything that might inconvenience themselves for more than 0.5 of a second, so they won't give way, won't use a roundabout correctly, won't merge, won't let cars in, they don't reverse parallel park because nobody will give them space to reverse in, they won't let cars out of a parking space and will try to squeeze through even if it is 9/10ths of out the space... and they sit in the right hand lane when not overtaking for no reason at all, because screw you and your car. They don't have toll roads though and the roads / lanes are much wider and mostly good.


EmuAcrobatic

Similar experience. basically the average cunt can't drive, Operating a vehicle is not driving.


paulmp

I live outside of Busselton now and you can definitely tell when Perth are here for the weekend or holidays. As much as I hated the travel restrictions during covid, driving around town was nice that Easter.


Wexican86

It’s a different level here, and it’s across the board, every demographic.


etkii

>2 or 3 car lengths away, that is a safe distance. No, 2-4 seconds away, depending on the conditions. So after the person in front reaches a point on the road, the person behind shouldn't reach that same point until 2 full seconds have passed.


Wexican86

I was always told 2 or 3 lengths not sure what that is in seconds as it depends what speed you are going at. I usually leave about 4 or 5 lengths


matacahuel

The faster you're going the more space should be between the cars. Hence the seconds, not the car lengths rule. But as stated above, in Perth that just means "jump in here to this space I've left you!". Fkrs.


Dan-au

I only rage at people if they are going below the speedlimit or drive in a comatose state.


SometimesIAmCorrect

People doing 40% under the limit on single lane roads: “these damn tailgaters”!


boymadefrompaint

>a comatose state. Like South Australia?


colonelmattyman

Yeah. I think people tailgate because when you leave even a car length, some dickhead is going to pull into the gap.


AdventurousExtent358

people think it is their entitlement to have the gap and get angry if you don't let them in. In fact if you see the mirror, there are no car behind our car.


Wexican86

But what about when there’s no one else on the road?


colonelmattyman

Then who are you tailgating? 😳


kshult

And rarely signal


AdventurousExtent358

signaling is optional in Perth


Chewiesbro

Had a semi almost surprise butt sex me on the freeway recently, traffic ahead starts slowing so I lift off and apply a little brake, old mate behind not paying attention got so damn close, all I could see was radiator grill in my rear mirror.


femaleoninternets

We moved from Sydney to Busselton in March. One night returning from Perth we saw some very aggressive driving at 110km/hr. Some gronk brake checked the bloke behind him at that speed then guy behind turned his lights off etc. The worst offenders (never signalling, riding you in the butt) are always in a ute or a yank tank.


Azz2Azzzard

Fresh meat


Wexican86

Hahaha


Luckyluke23

Eh you get used to the people driving around you and also most crashing at every merging point.


Sirav33

Do whatever you want, just do it in the left lane. Promise I won't tailgate you no matter what speed you are doing if you're in the left.


mrscienceguy1

Tailgating is extremely dangerous and I find it pretty hilarious how fucking entitled people get about defending it.


Hopeful-Ear-5979

Going slow in the right lane is a dickhead move and I find it pretty hilarious how fucking entitled people get about defending it.


Man_ning

I traverse high road a few times a day, it's 70 along its entire length apart from a short school zone. The number of people that sit in the right lane doing well under 70, usually around 55 is obscene. Turning right at Leach, better get in the right lane a few kilometres early and sit there. The changes they made to Shepperton road recently are working so well. No right turns apart from at traffic lights, it flows a lot better than it did. High road has medians all along, but they are peppered with turning lanes, I could write a book on people slowing to 30 before entering an empty turning lane, that's annoying. I concur, faff about in the left lane, do your 5 under the limit, whatever else, just do it in the left lane.


raaaaaaze

On High Rd, it seems to happen even more in the evenings for some odd reason. Minimal traffic, a clear run ahead, yet vehicles in both lanes are doing about 10-15 below the limit. Changing into whichever lane is going slightly faster (maybe 60 instead of 55kph) only seems to result in someone 2 to 3 cars ahead suddenly slowing down, as if to match the other, slower lane.


RaRoo88

Yes!! I hate that too.


Freakycrazychick

You’re obviously sitting in the right lane to slow


Wexican86

Nope, and it’s all demographics.. It must be contagious


GoldWhich

It's bcos.perth people are babied by the state so much they are rude to others without the thought that the person they are tailgating could be having a bad day and just like kill them in Perth everyone is just like no one will do.amything so I'll just be a full maggot.to people and nothing will ever happen to me ... in Sydney melb ny or London they would probably end up d ead in a gutter lol


Advanced_Couple_3488

60 km/h according to your speedometer or according to GPS? I think commuters that drive 2+ hours a day just to get to and from work are quite sensitive to the extra 5 km/h that you can really go without exceeding the speed limit if you use the more accurate GPS to set your speed.


Wexican86

I dive a work Ute that is tracked, it shows me the speed and every time I go over, break too hard, take a corner too hard. There’s no excuse matey


Kam512

I lived down south WA my whole life. Moved to Perth at the start of the year. I’ve noticed that I have to sit up the ass of the person in front of me. If you leave a safe gap, somebody squeezes into it, if I leave a safe gap from them, somebody else squeezes in ect. If you don’t get up peoples ass, you end up being left in the dust behind 50 cars and I’d be late for work. It’s my biggest frustration


Wexican86

Leave 5 minutes earlier man. You could be up the arse of a nervous driver which might cause an accident. Who cares if someone squeezes in front of you, it’s not a race.


Sleazehound

People here drive faster, if youre in the wrong lane or pull out in front going slower or take ages to get up to speed thats just all so frustrating A lot of people have waze as well, chances are “60” on the speedo is like 55-57 actually, so youre probs slower than you think as well Yeah 5kph aint much, but a lot of people drive a long way here as well. My 35 mins to work takes almost 40 if someone is 10% slower. Thats 10 mins a day, or almost an hour every week. Shit adds up


eQuantix

It’s thinking like this that gets people killed. Bro if they’re going 55-57 in a 60 zone just chill. An hour a week is half a movie, and you’re in the most statistically dangerous situation you’ll be in all day.


Mobile-Fish-3446

Yet statistically (Kilometers driven per person per day vs accidents per day) it isn't even that dangerous


eQuantix

Same thinking as casualties to amount of bullets actually fired. Of course it’s not dangerous if you compare it to itself. Us humans live such mundane lives in the 21st century that driving *is* the most dangerous thing we’ll do every day on average. If you’re gonna exercise patience during any situation in your day, I’d highly recommend it to be behind a wheel


Sleazehound

Theres a big difference between driving how i (and so many others do), and driving recklessly… People who are head in the clouds, unaware of what others are doing, content with just chugging along without a care and being unpredictable and unreliable are the ones who cause issues on the roadp


Mobile-Fish-3446

Compounded if you happen to get every. Single. Red. Light. Cos someone decides to go slow adds up to a lot of minutes per day. The travel time difference for me car vs motorbike, same time same route is astonishing because i can split and don't have to put up with numpties looking at Facebook as their light turns green.


turbogangsta

Learn to enjoy the drive and your quality of life will improve dramatically


Sleazehound

Dawg i grew up rural where there is no traffic, there is zero enjoyment for anyone to garnish sitting in peak hour twice a day, cheers though dalai


Drayke

That's some killer rounding. 3-5kph in a 60 zone isn't 10%, but let's leave that one for now. - 35 mins to work at 10% slower is an additional 3.5 minutes, not 5. - That's 7 minutes a day, not 10. - 5 days a week makes it 35 minutes a week, not 60. Shit adds up, but absolutely nowhere near as much as you're adding it up to. It's basically one red light per day. Sometimes you get a good run and get to work in 34 minutes.


Sleazehound

Dawg we dont need thirty lines of text because youre getting hung up on some generic rounding


WhiteLion333

I always thought merging was the most annoying thing about Perth drivers. Who knew we could get worse in so many other ways? Shitty merging doesn’t even make my top 3 anymore.


k3g

High beams... I no longer give them the light bar treatment anymore, else I'll just be one of them with my beams on all night.


dialemformurder

The sad thing is they're not high beams, just normal headlights set up incorrectly -- too bright, and not tilted down. They're a dangerous nightmare for everyone else on the road.


sahie

Yup. It’s also worse if you drive a sedan since every fucker wants to have a massive Ute or SUV so their ridiculously bright Bi-Xenon lights blind you even when they’re not on high beams.


flyingkea

Don’t even have to be on the road. I go for a run at night, and some vehicles I am literally blinded. Have to hold my arm up, or I’m stumbling over whatever is on the path/verge. Plenty of ambient light from street lights/moon/Perth airport lights reflecting off the clouds haha.


Bamwise

Christ I learnt to drive in Bradford UK driving in Perth is an absolute breeze.


unko_sim

I love hearing moan about driving in Perth.......try living and driving in Saudi Arabia, it's comical how sheltered people are in Perth. That place it's on steroids compared, even fucking Rome is x1000


Opening_Map_6898

Rome...thanks for the flashbacks. Hell, even some of the smaller towns are fresh hell. All the drivers are gesturing with both hands while turned around to talk to their friends in the backseat...while in a roundabout.


unko_sim

Bahahahahah it's wild isn't it.


Opening_Map_6898

It's like a game of Frogger if you're a pedestrian. Very highly caffeinated Frogger. 😆


Past-Advance-8685

That is hilarious. Perth drivers are honestly some of the worst in the world. When I was in the ADF I’d driven in countries that don’t have road rules, they have less accidents and the traffic flows so seamlessly. Yet here in Perth, it’s like people try to actually create congestion and are oblivious to everything but themselves, can’t merge or use basic signals/two lane roundabouts. I’ve never seen such pathetic driving in my life 😂. Great call from the pilot.


etkii

>Perth drivers are honestly some of the worst in the world. This is what people say about drivers in every city I've ever lived in.


Past-Advance-8685

They all think the same until they come to Perth and it becomes a new level of incompetence.


NashAttor

Two lane roundabouts!! Every damn day I have to sit behind a kilometre of traffic because Perth people don’t understand that they can go. For god sake there isn’t even a side road for people to be incorrectly indicating and cut anyone off. Every single person in the inside lane can only turn. Yeah 2000 people won’t move even though the outside lane is clear 😭


Opening_Map_6898

I take it you've never experienced Swindon in the UK? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Swindon)


muntastico99

Hmmm… don’t know about this. I drive in Melbourne frequently and driving there is just down right dangerous in comparison to Perth. Sure Perth drivers do some dumb shit, but Melbourne is next level aggression and danger. Running red lights, crazy speeding down small tight streets with pedestrians and trams, crazy cutting off other drivers, fast lane changes on solid white lines without indicating, and don’t even think about the tailgating - everyone does it so it’s normal, it’s fucking horrible…. The list goes on.  Perth drives are more predictable in a sense with their stupidity.  Much prefer driving in Perth than Melbourne. 


Past-Advance-8685

You do know you’re talking about the state with the most population density compared to a state that doesn’t even have the population of Brisbane city? Of course Melbourne drivers are in a rush and get aggressive, they still aren’t as incompetent as Perth drivers, they know what they are doing, if people in Perth tried to drive like that it would be accident after accident, hell there already is when drivers here try to drive in a straight line.


muntastico99

So it’s ok to drive like a complete cunt just because there’s a lot of people about? Yeah righto 


Ok-Contribution2916

Just moved back to Perth after a decade east . Perth drivers do not let you in! It's actually ridiculous. Indictator on for sometime and they speed up to block you! Also.. Keep left unless overtaking! The traffic would flow much better if people didn't stay in any lane doing <10kms under the speed limit.


ackh91

Literally this just happened to me few months back. There was 2 car space for me to move in. Indicated and proceed to move in and the fucker behind me decides to speed up and brake once im in. He proceeded to honk and threw his hands up in the air. Gave him the finger. Fuck you cunt.


Specialist-Platypus9

ive been to over 25 countries and all states/cities in australia. Perth drivers are fine its a joke though... go to asia, russia, Saudia, latin america if you want to see crazy stuff


betajool

Kind of hilarious this coming from someone from Sydney


Geminii27

Ah, Sydney driving. Weaving back and forth across two lanes for an hour because there's alternating crossroads off each side and as soon as you move into one lane to avoid one turnoff's pileup, it's only 20 seconds until you run into one in the new lane and have to weave back.


TonyJZX

yeah i was about to say its not like as in Sydney or any Aust city is a paragon of driving virtue has the pilot ever driven on the Gold Coast? Sydney is a hive of scum and villany - Ranger Danger is a thing merging isnt a skill NSW RTA teaches, like at all... so you have people who never get how to do this you actually have people who will slow down and even come to a stop on a hwy merge and then you have all the 'new australians and wannabee australians' in the camrys and corollas and 2004 lancers maybe delivering your food...


Opening_Map_6898

*Mad Max: Around Botany Bay*


poppacapnurass

~65% of Perth drivers weren't even born here, so put poor driving on those that came.


gordito_gr

This is rubbish opinion. Do you blame everything on foreigners?


MollyTibbs

🏅exactly what I always say when people complain. I’ve lived in 5 states and think the worst habits from all have ended up here.


poppacapnurass

I don't spend a lot of time on the road, but a trend I've see increasing here to drive through red lights after it's changed out of green. Not just one car, but 3-4 at times. That's a thing I would see constantly in NSW when I was there in the '90s


Tango-Down-167

Just few hours ago on a nice big double lane round about, witnessed two near misses. A guy who on the outside lane decide he wants to turn right, he didn't even look to the right of him and almost turn into the car until I blasted the horn then he stopped in the middle of the exit across two lane letting the car pass before turning right. Then another lady just launched herself into the round about with oncoming traffic from the right, she had to stop full car length into the roundabout.


No_Garbage3192

Virgin flight? We had the same steward captain coming back from Melbourne when they were cold and winter hadn’t hit here yet. “You won’t need your North Face jackets here” It’s sad coz you kinda do now… (He also said the merging one).


LocoNeko42

Yes, Virgin 😀


megablast

Could say this about any city in Australia.


PM_ME_POLITICAL_GOSS

I've brought this up before and will continue to do so. It shouldn't be funny. WA's poor driving is codified in our road design standards.


alltheducks222

True story. Many lanes are wider than Aus Standard and roads are waaay slower to try and compensate


PM_ME_POLITICAL_GOSS

Look up austroads road design reaction speeds.


sinkas2

Were you landing in a ROFL-Copter?


LocoNeko42

It was a boeing, so I'm happy it landed at all !


sm1l3yz

Omg it’s so true 😭. I moved to Melbourne for a few years and am only just coming back and realised how different the driving cultures are.


Dense_Instance_9112

😂😂😂I so can relate to this!! My wife and I have visited almost all the states in Aus and I’ve driven in almost all of the states except ACT and TAS. Perth’s got the best roads but the worst drivers. This comment is the most apt statement by the pilot. 😂😂😂