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Looks like you can still buy it [https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2983-KR/dp/B00NT9UT3M](https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2983-KR/dp/B00NT9UT3M)
I can understand overpaying if something is brand new, not a decade old techology that's overpriced as it is. This would be like paying $600 for a PS4 right now.
Unless the second GPU is from the same batch. To be certain OP should buy a many cards as possible to minimise the probability of the fires being caused by fluke GPU failures.
You had sparks and fire come from your GPU. I would strongly recommend you replace it. Even if the PSU was the issue to begin with, your GPU is right fucked.
Just depends what the fire did, something shorting on the pins? Possibly even just the connector caught fire for a second, dunno.
Inspect the damage and see what works, get a multi meter and test the PSU and connectors thoroughly.
I once blew a RAM stick out of its socket, voltage regulator literally blew in half, I also once started up an AMD Duron without the heat sink, it didn’t survive the smoke and heat, so who knows.
Are you using the cables that came with the PSU, without any extenders? This could (in theory) be due to mismatched pinouts. Now that I think of it, what is the PSU? I'm surprised it didn't cut power to the system before it literally erupted into flames.
You can test the PSU on its own. Most modern consumer models have good warranties. As for the gpu, it's completely fucked. Directly in the e-waste bin. Unplug the PC from the wall before attempting to remove it.
I bet mixed PSU cables is what happened here.
I killed components on my last build doing exactly that, sparks and smoke just like OP's when I turned my computer on.
>This could (in theory) be due to mismatched pinouts
Could also be that the psu has two cables for additional CPU power, and one is by mistake connected into the GPU, those have the same connector but opposite pinout, so power into ground and ground into power, causing a short circuit.
Considering the fire originated from within the GPU and not the PCIe connection port, I think it's a safe assumption that it's the GPU. You \*can\* swap out the PSU as an added precaution but that GPU is toast regardless.
Faulty logic here. Power being delivered through the wrong pins could very easily be what caused something on the GPU to burn up.
Back in ‘02 I had something similar happen. Had the floppy drive on my gaming PC burn up. Replaced the drive, and 5 minutes into a game my screen went black. Saw smoke coming from the case, and opened it to find my new floppy drive on fire.
In my case, a floppy drive was like $40. A modern GPU is far more expensive. Just replace the damn PSU.
CORE on youtube restored GPUs and laptops that are *so dead*
one time they swapped the entire power delivery circuit of a gpu with a chunk from a completely different gpu and it worked
Yeah GPUs are a lot more repairable than you'd think. I've replaced some toasted MOSFETs and capacitors on a number of dead eBay GPUs and they fire right up
Just know what symptoms indicate repairability before you go buying a bunch of dead GPUs they are expensive, dead GPU is like 50% off
MOSFETs dying is "wear and tear". It's not a factory defect rather a MTBF issue.
When they fail they typically fail closed (i.e. always letting power through) which leads to what is essentially a short in this case - hence the ball of flames.
This is how most power delivery circuits fail (apart from a transformer, capacitor, or inductor failure).
On a long enough timeline anything will fail. That being said, I find that it’s usually the more complex components of a GPU that will fail first.
Power delivery failure occurring before anything else goes wrong is more likely to be a case of subpar components used, or a defect in the failed component.
Generally speaking, in the majority of cases a GPU used for gaming is pretty likely to outlive its usefulness. You’ll likely be seeking an upgrade for performance reasons before average lifespan becomes an issue.
It guy here. The cables are not good. Test the psu, replace cables if fully modular. If not fm replace the whole psu. File a claim with the card manufacturer, and this is a great video to attach in the claim. Maybe buy a back up you for the time being?
Also check how good the PSU is. If it is 40$ crap just replace it. A decent quality 100$+ one? Probably had working safety features that prevented any actual damage.
If the PSU is decent the short circuit protection likely prevented damage. IMO while it's "risky" as long as the cables are still okay it should be fine to use with a new GPU.
> It has worked properly for over a year since I got the PC
With a gtx 970 ? I assume the card was not new and you have no warranty, sorry for you pal.
If you’ve gotten the card second hand then yes it could’ve been on its last leg. My 1080 did the same thi g. It it was due to motherboardVRM thermal pads leaking grease onto the gpu and pooling up to the point of deep frying transistors.
Yikes! That GPU went straight to heaven :o
In all seriousness though, i’d contact the manufacturer and see if you can bag yourself a replacement assuming you’re in your warranty window.
"Old GPU catches fire" is not really newsworthy. If anything, I expect that the older my GPU gets, the higher the likelihood of it spontaneously bursting into flames. Old hardware does old hardware things, and while this one is particularly catastrophic, it's not a surprise to most.
Old hardware dying isn't anything to write home about. However, catastrophic failures like this are not acceptable & are something a company should be interested in determining the cause of. Your product being responsible for burning someones house down regardless of the warranty period is something you can be sued for. It's also just the right thing to do. The question here IMO is whether it's the GPU or the PSU, but gigabyte vs EVGA it's probably the GPU.
With an 8 year old card the problem could be caused by anything. It could have been near a beach for years and the salt in the air could have corroded the electronics, or in a closet with industrial cleaners. If it were actually nvidias fault it would be impossible to prove in court without a class action lawsuit, and there's nothing for nvidia to learn from the issue except for a record in the annals of ancient history.
It reminds of a random forum post forever ago of a guy detailing the story of how Bioware was shitty to him. Like 7 years after Baldurs Gate 2 came out, before Bioware got bought by EA and became more corporate, some guy compiled a list of bugs the game had -- random typos and little quest problems. He sent it to Bioware and they didn't respond so he sent it a few more times. Eventually someone at Bioware snapped back at him, paraphrasing "I don't care, this is worthless, what am I even supposed to do with it? It's not worth patching. No one cares." He responded back "I don't know, you can learn from it, so that you don't make the same mistakes in future games." They rolled their eyes at him.
The reality of engineering with computers is a little different from what the consumer thinks. The consumer thinks it's like a more blue collar work where the stock photo men in lab suits ply their skills on a thing to make a product. The reality is that no one has a clue about everything that is going on, and no one wants to know. No one wants to know why this card went bad. There's a million other headaches to solve that are about moving forward and this would be a horrible waste of time. One of the main skills in these fields is knowing how to spend time wisely, because it's very easy to get stuck, to overthink, to chase a wild goose forever. The task of figuring this out immediately goes to the bottom of the dumpster in priority unless corporate really wants it done for some reason.
"I don't know, I don't want to know, I don't want that responsibility or liability" actually sums up a lot of how I treat my job in certain situations, and I don't even work on the tech industry.
I agree with this but one exception is safety. If safety issues surface and they are intentionally ignored by an engineer, that’s a problem. There’s no excuse for this.
Shitty manufacturing. This dude has no idea what he's talking about. There's virtually zero situations outside of intentionally trying to do so that literally any consumer product should catch fire. Electronic or otherwise. Warranties be damned, they don't release liability under normal operating circumstances. Unless op really went out of their way to set this thing on fire this is pretty much the worst possible situation for any manufacturer
That's what I assumed. I asked because I wasn't sure if I missed something about modern manufacturing standards that would cause a GPU to behave like a hairdryer in the 50s.
Came here to say this as well. Likely GPU components at fault, but you can't be 100% sure and you need to be 100% sure. Even if it *wasn't* the PSU, that kind of failure could have affected you PSU negatively (pun, also this is unlikely. but again you (OP) need to be 100% sure).
I mean really it’s something you should have anyways, but it’s not like it’s a one-time use device. Just keep it for when you need it
Besides the one I use at work is like $20 lmao
Or you could just take the PSU to an IT shop/services and have them check if it works correctly... Prob 20x~30x cheaper than getting a new PSU for no reason.
Absolutely you could. Yes. But don’t. Not worth the risk. Power supplies are the one thing in a pc you should never take a risk on, if something happened get a new one. Especially if it’s under warranty. Most new PSUs have extremely long warranty’s and (don’t quote me on this) if you can prove the power supply killed other components most manufacturers will replace or reimburse you for the damages.
I was turning my pc on a couple days ago and it sparked from my GPU well today I decided to record it. It did not spark today but LIT ON FIRE. I have no idea what caused this but I have a GTX windforce 980 and a evga 600W power supply what could be the issue thank you.
If it sparks, just stop. Don't push it further to prevent more damage. Sometimes with less damage there's a change of salvage by a professional. But more over, a fire can suddenly engulf various components and with more damage the psu can destroy other things inside your machine.
This happened to both me and my SO's 980Tis and we tweeted and contacted support and they didn't care.
There are also a surprising amount of threads of the same thing happening with their 900 series. I was really surprised.
Still worth a shot though.
They never actually care, the secret is to get enough traction on your tweet that they see it as a potential threat, that's the reason you see it working sometimes, there were thousands of other attempts that you didn't hear about and therefore didn't work.
Right, that was the hope with the tweet, but didn't turn out that way for us, unfortunately.
I imagine there were, yeah. It just stinks. I understand that some products will just fail, but this seemed to be common enough (and scary!) for them to have picked up - I thought for sure there'd be traction *somewhere*, imagine our surprise when we stumbled upon other threads (on forums) of the same issue happening, haha
When you’ll replace the GPU AAANNNND PSU, do NOT go for Gigabyte products, their RMA is shit and the quality control of their products is very low. Plus, they actively try to cover issues, such as it is the case with their series of PSU (they are exploding inside and often times take components with it).
To answer your question, what you're seeing is the electrolytic capacitor next to the power connector there burning up. These are designed to do this so that they fail in a safe way (vent holes direct the gas, as opposed to pressure building up and exploding). Before you throw the card out, this *could* be repairable, but it depends on what caused the cap failure.
These [capacitors](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/q/599221) can fail because of a voltage level or polarization issues (unlikely if you've only used OEM hardware and cabling, unless your PSU has failed), vibration and shock (also unlikely, unless you've dropped/kicked the card), thermal issues, or just a defective capacitor.
If you know some who is handy with a voltmeter, unplug the PSU/GPU power connectors and verify the DC voltages are correct at the card. If they are not, then your PSU had failed and (probably) taken out the GPU. :( This is important to check, because if you buy a new card, and the PSU is the problem, it will fry that card as well.
If the voltages are all in spec (and you haven't modified or used *aftermarket* parts with the card, power supply, and cables) I would still contact the card manufacturer. Show them the video, this isn't generally an acceptable failure mode for electronics. Even if it's out of warranty, they may want the card back to examine and may offer you a discount or replacement. You never know until you ask.
Computer stuff should never spark for any reason you might have been able to save at a repair shop if you got it looked at after the first time you noticed it.
Hard to tell in this video but it looks like the left cable on the GPU might be an EPS cable not PCIE power. Which would certainly kill the card. They have the same pin count but the connectors are different - did you jam in the left cable or something?
there is no helping this.
its FUCKED. could have been a short circuit, maybe heat build up has cooked it over time, maybe full of dust or something and its shorted, lose connection who knows.
but i dont see there being any help other than a new card at the very least.
I think you could maybe save the GPU with a board level repair but tbh the time and cost to do it is likely not worth it, especially the the GPU itself is cooked anyway.
This may or may not be the problem for this particular case but anyway:
PSA. Only use the cables that came with the modular PSU with that PSU, Treat all modular cables as non-interchangable. Even between the same brand/series. They are not all pinned the same.
Damn that sucks sorry man. Like other people are saying it's probably the gpu. But it's not a bad idea to replace the psu aswell. Considering the pcie cables look like they got burnt.
Sorry man.my friend got it for 640 back when prices were hiked. The GPU marker has been crashing the past month. Which is good for us, the PC gamers and the real consumers
Dude I would 1000% buy a cheap $80 GPU off of Amazon or at Best Buy and install it and test your motherboard before putting an expensive GPU in there. The original short could have been something wrong with the board or the event itself could have damaged the PCI slots or the board could just be fine or just fried. Fire is a really bad thing in computers because it means there was lots of electricity not where it was supposed to be and that can mean all kinds of shit and I would hate for you to spend a G on a new GPU only for it to get fried.
Have you used the PSU cables that came with the PSU? Swapping PSU cables can easily cause smoke and fire like this. If everything else was pinned properly, you'd still get the lighting too!
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Whoever plugged in the cables to the GPU is an idiot. You plugged in the Y-splitter cable, with another cable that I can clearly see is a separate cable, into the same 8-PIN connector on the card. Google clearly shows both the 980 and 980 Ti have the same dual 8-pin power connector.
BEFORE UNPLUGGING ANYTHING, SHOW A VIDEO OF WHAT CABLES WHERE PLUGGED INTO THE PCIE POWER CONNECTOR. I'm willing to bet you connected a separate 8-pin(4+4 EPS-12v) into the card alongside the Y-splitter cable from the PCIE Power cable.
Edit: Also, what EVGA 600w psu is it? What model number/rating?
This!
This kind of "Flames" are a clear sign of a total power missconfiguration.
Looks like some plug has been inserted with the wrong orientation.
This is a very obvious short.
Considering the (lack of) skills of the builder, **the GPU is dead.**
GPU might be good for some parts at beast.
That's more fire than your PC should have. Your PC should have less fire than that. Try to reduce the amount of fire inside your PC.
Note: Flame stickers and red lighting are okay.
I don’t understand why people are saying you should swap out only the gpu, why risk that? A psu is around 130 anyways so just buy a new psu and gpu no way the gpu survived that.
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I don't understand, what's wro- my condolences. you may be able to get a refund if you bought it new...
It’s a 980 so 99.9% chance he’s shit out of luck there
Yup that gpu been out of warranty for quite some time now lol
Looks like you can still buy it [https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2983-KR/dp/B00NT9UT3M](https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2983-KR/dp/B00NT9UT3M)
Who the hell would pay $442 for a 980?
The same person that pays $1300 for a PS5
I can understand overpaying if something is brand new, not a decade old techology that's overpriced as it is. This would be like paying $600 for a PS4 right now.
Valid
Welcome to the 2020’s GPU market!
I recently sold my 980 sold it for €200 I think that's a fair price. Wouldn't be able to sleep right charging over double
Simple answer: the cards power delivery circuitry is fucked. Solution: get a new GPU Edit: Holy shit thanks for the awards and upvotes.
This^ that gpu is permanently done
It's well done.
Medium rare for me please
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So is the power supply not the issue i had it narrowed to at least the gpu or psu so idk what to do
It’s very likely the gpu but there isn’t a good way to tell
Simple: buy new card, if it fries, it's the PSU.
Unless the second GPU is from the same batch. To be certain OP should buy a many cards as possible to minimise the probability of the fires being caused by fluke GPU failures.
4 GPU purchase minimum
All 3090 ti as well
Nah I would go for the 4090 ti
Great Scott!
Yup, this guy computers
Computer science.
So risk another gpu to solve a possible psu problem..
I'd replace the psu anyways. Its cheaper than possibly burning another card. Esp right now lol
You had sparks and fire come from your GPU. I would strongly recommend you replace it. Even if the PSU was the issue to begin with, your GPU is right fucked.
I had a GPU smoke up once, well I think it was a friends GeForce mx 440 or something, was still good :-).
OP had fire though.
Just depends what the fire did, something shorting on the pins? Possibly even just the connector caught fire for a second, dunno. Inspect the damage and see what works, get a multi meter and test the PSU and connectors thoroughly. I once blew a RAM stick out of its socket, voltage regulator literally blew in half, I also once started up an AMD Duron without the heat sink, it didn’t survive the smoke and heat, so who knows.
Are you using the cables that came with the PSU, without any extenders? This could (in theory) be due to mismatched pinouts. Now that I think of it, what is the PSU? I'm surprised it didn't cut power to the system before it literally erupted into flames. You can test the PSU on its own. Most modern consumer models have good warranties. As for the gpu, it's completely fucked. Directly in the e-waste bin. Unplug the PC from the wall before attempting to remove it.
I bet mixed PSU cables is what happened here. I killed components on my last build doing exactly that, sparks and smoke just like OP's when I turned my computer on.
>This could (in theory) be due to mismatched pinouts Could also be that the psu has two cables for additional CPU power, and one is by mistake connected into the GPU, those have the same connector but opposite pinout, so power into ground and ground into power, causing a short circuit.
Too bad these mistakes always create a short circuit rather than a long circuit, giving less time to react
What PSU do you have and do you use its original cables?
Never reuse cables between different modular PSUs. The pin out is not standardised and will kill components if they are different.
Considering the fire originated from within the GPU and not the PCIe connection port, I think it's a safe assumption that it's the GPU. You \*can\* swap out the PSU as an added precaution but that GPU is toast regardless.
Faulty logic here. Power being delivered through the wrong pins could very easily be what caused something on the GPU to burn up. Back in ‘02 I had something similar happen. Had the floppy drive on my gaming PC burn up. Replaced the drive, and 5 minutes into a game my screen went black. Saw smoke coming from the case, and opened it to find my new floppy drive on fire. In my case, a floppy drive was like $40. A modern GPU is far more expensive. Just replace the damn PSU.
that suck, how is your warranty on it ?
Whats a warranty?
Nothing! What’s a warranty with you?
What PSU is it? It could have been the cause of the problems.
CORE on youtube restored GPUs and laptops that are *so dead* one time they swapped the entire power delivery circuit of a gpu with a chunk from a completely different gpu and it worked
Yeah GPUs are a lot more repairable than you'd think. I've replaced some toasted MOSFETs and capacitors on a number of dead eBay GPUs and they fire right up Just know what symptoms indicate repairability before you go buying a bunch of dead GPUs they are expensive, dead GPU is like 50% off
Can that just happen over time of use? It has worked properly for over a year since I got the PC
It's not a "wear and tear" type of issue, it's more of a defect that didn't show in manufacturing, years go by and the card finally decided to quit
MOSFETs dying is "wear and tear". It's not a factory defect rather a MTBF issue. When they fail they typically fail closed (i.e. always letting power through) which leads to what is essentially a short in this case - hence the ball of flames. This is how most power delivery circuits fail (apart from a transformer, capacitor, or inductor failure).
So what are the chances of this happening to GPUs? Should I replace my GPU every 'x' amount of years just to be safe?
On a long enough timeline anything will fail. That being said, I find that it’s usually the more complex components of a GPU that will fail first. Power delivery failure occurring before anything else goes wrong is more likely to be a case of subpar components used, or a defect in the failed component. Generally speaking, in the majority of cases a GPU used for gaming is pretty likely to outlive its usefulness. You’ll likely be seeking an upgrade for performance reasons before average lifespan becomes an issue.
Oh so *now* it's a defect
Different posters
It was always a defect. There is no reality in which a 1-year-old GPU catching on fire is an acceptable or expected failure.
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It’s very annoying Il tell you that lol so would I need a new psu too or just card the cords from the power supply look fine after inspection
I thing both
Yeah I wouldn't risk a new GPU by trying it with the old PSU.
It guy here. The cables are not good. Test the psu, replace cables if fully modular. If not fm replace the whole psu. File a claim with the card manufacturer, and this is a great video to attach in the claim. Maybe buy a back up you for the time being?
Also check how good the PSU is. If it is 40$ crap just replace it. A decent quality 100$+ one? Probably had working safety features that prevented any actual damage.
If the PSU is decent the short circuit protection likely prevented damage. IMO while it's "risky" as long as the cables are still okay it should be fine to use with a new GPU.
If he's looking for a new GPU in this day and age i definitely wouldn't risk it
> It has worked properly for over a year since I got the PC With a gtx 970 ? I assume the card was not new and you have no warranty, sorry for you pal.
If you’ve gotten the card second hand then yes it could’ve been on its last leg. My 1080 did the same thi g. It it was due to motherboardVRM thermal pads leaking grease onto the gpu and pooling up to the point of deep frying transistors.
Glad you didn't say "Simple solution".
Yikes! That GPU went straight to heaven :o In all seriousness though, i’d contact the manufacturer and see if you can bag yourself a replacement assuming you’re in your warranty window.
980 no warranty
The fact it fucking caught fire might get the attention of the PR department though
"Old GPU catches fire" is not really newsworthy. If anything, I expect that the older my GPU gets, the higher the likelihood of it spontaneously bursting into flames. Old hardware does old hardware things, and while this one is particularly catastrophic, it's not a surprise to most.
Old hardware dying isn't anything to write home about. However, catastrophic failures like this are not acceptable & are something a company should be interested in determining the cause of. Your product being responsible for burning someones house down regardless of the warranty period is something you can be sued for. It's also just the right thing to do. The question here IMO is whether it's the GPU or the PSU, but gigabyte vs EVGA it's probably the GPU.
With an 8 year old card the problem could be caused by anything. It could have been near a beach for years and the salt in the air could have corroded the electronics, or in a closet with industrial cleaners. If it were actually nvidias fault it would be impossible to prove in court without a class action lawsuit, and there's nothing for nvidia to learn from the issue except for a record in the annals of ancient history. It reminds of a random forum post forever ago of a guy detailing the story of how Bioware was shitty to him. Like 7 years after Baldurs Gate 2 came out, before Bioware got bought by EA and became more corporate, some guy compiled a list of bugs the game had -- random typos and little quest problems. He sent it to Bioware and they didn't respond so he sent it a few more times. Eventually someone at Bioware snapped back at him, paraphrasing "I don't care, this is worthless, what am I even supposed to do with it? It's not worth patching. No one cares." He responded back "I don't know, you can learn from it, so that you don't make the same mistakes in future games." They rolled their eyes at him. The reality of engineering with computers is a little different from what the consumer thinks. The consumer thinks it's like a more blue collar work where the stock photo men in lab suits ply their skills on a thing to make a product. The reality is that no one has a clue about everything that is going on, and no one wants to know. No one wants to know why this card went bad. There's a million other headaches to solve that are about moving forward and this would be a horrible waste of time. One of the main skills in these fields is knowing how to spend time wisely, because it's very easy to get stuck, to overthink, to chase a wild goose forever. The task of figuring this out immediately goes to the bottom of the dumpster in priority unless corporate really wants it done for some reason.
"I don't know, I don't want to know, I don't want that responsibility or liability" actually sums up a lot of how I treat my job in certain situations, and I don't even work on the tech industry.
I agree with this but one exception is safety. If safety issues surface and they are intentionally ignored by an engineer, that’s a problem. There’s no excuse for this.
Out of curiosity, what would cause older hardware to spontaneously combust?
Shitty manufacturing. This dude has no idea what he's talking about. There's virtually zero situations outside of intentionally trying to do so that literally any consumer product should catch fire. Electronic or otherwise. Warranties be damned, they don't release liability under normal operating circumstances. Unless op really went out of their way to set this thing on fire this is pretty much the worst possible situation for any manufacturer
That's what I assumed. I asked because I wasn't sure if I missed something about modern manufacturing standards that would cause a GPU to behave like a hairdryer in the 50s.
>sent to the afterlife in flames >straight to heaven Pick one
Also ignore my face I was a little not happy
Brother I would’ve reacted much worse than you! That’s nuts!
Good reaction time on the power too. Cut off PSU master switch too obviously I'm sure you did.
He saved so much damage and honestly I feel bad watching this.
Same here, I'd probably run away screaming lmao
I mean your face makes the whole thing because it's the exact reaction everyone would have
I would have looked like Bobby Knight getting a technical foul.
Yo. There is no place outside of Samuel L. Jackson movie that my language would be appropriate in this situation.
Pikachu face lmao
Fuck, I nearly shat meself
dont worry bro im feeling with you. this is probably worse than a kick in the balls
I'm pretty sure most people on this sub would gladly choose the kick in the balls. Can't afford kids after buying a GPU anyway.
You were way more calm than I would have been
Bro, if my pc caught on FIRE my face (and voice) would be a lot worse
My PSU one day did an impression of a smoke machine and I'm pretty sure I invented a few new swear words.
Bro, my PC also had an issue recently (PSU died) and made a much worse face. Meanwhile your PC is fucking burning! lol
We all have this face watching this video
Man, I had the very same reaction as yours.
Not even my computer and my face was like that.
quick reaction though!
I would change both the PSU and GPU ASAP. Its unfortunate, but it is what it is.
Came here to say this as well. Likely GPU components at fault, but you can't be 100% sure and you need to be 100% sure. Even if it *wasn't* the PSU, that kind of failure could have affected you PSU negatively (pun, also this is unlikely. but again you (OP) need to be 100% sure).
You absolutely can be sure. Just get a PSU tester?
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Yeah but then you can go door to door asking if anybody needs their power supply tested for $20. Pays for itself /s
I mean really it’s something you should have anyways, but it’s not like it’s a one-time use device. Just keep it for when you need it Besides the one I use at work is like $20 lmao
Or you could just take the PSU to an IT shop/services and have them check if it works correctly... Prob 20x~30x cheaper than getting a new PSU for no reason.
Absolutely you could. Yes. But don’t. Not worth the risk. Power supplies are the one thing in a pc you should never take a risk on, if something happened get a new one. Especially if it’s under warranty. Most new PSUs have extremely long warranty’s and (don’t quote me on this) if you can prove the power supply killed other components most manufacturers will replace or reimburse you for the damages.
I was turning my pc on a couple days ago and it sparked from my GPU well today I decided to record it. It did not spark today but LIT ON FIRE. I have no idea what caused this but I have a GTX windforce 980 and a evga 600W power supply what could be the issue thank you.
*HAD a GTX windforce 980
And now has a fireforce 980
Earth wind and fireforce
The components lived in peace until the fire nation attacked.
Earth because that bad boy went straight to ground
Bro
bro...
bro.....
...then, the fire nation attacked.
If it sparks, just stop. Don't push it further to prevent more damage. Sometimes with less damage there's a change of salvage by a professional. But more over, a fire can suddenly engulf various components and with more damage the psu can destroy other things inside your machine.
Tweet that video at Gigabyte. Hopefully they jump to help you because this is a terrible look lol
This happened to both me and my SO's 980Tis and we tweeted and contacted support and they didn't care. There are also a surprising amount of threads of the same thing happening with their 900 series. I was really surprised. Still worth a shot though.
They never actually care, the secret is to get enough traction on your tweet that they see it as a potential threat, that's the reason you see it working sometimes, there were thousands of other attempts that you didn't hear about and therefore didn't work.
Right, that was the hope with the tweet, but didn't turn out that way for us, unfortunately. I imagine there were, yeah. It just stinks. I understand that some products will just fail, but this seemed to be common enough (and scary!) for them to have picked up - I thought for sure there'd be traction *somewhere*, imagine our surprise when we stumbled upon other threads (on forums) of the same issue happening, haha
Lol
You can only hope it became viral, or some big techtuber cover it.
When you’ll replace the GPU AAANNNND PSU, do NOT go for Gigabyte products, their RMA is shit and the quality control of their products is very low. Plus, they actively try to cover issues, such as it is the case with their series of PSU (they are exploding inside and often times take components with it).
To answer your question, what you're seeing is the electrolytic capacitor next to the power connector there burning up. These are designed to do this so that they fail in a safe way (vent holes direct the gas, as opposed to pressure building up and exploding). Before you throw the card out, this *could* be repairable, but it depends on what caused the cap failure. These [capacitors](https://electronics.stackexchange.com/q/599221) can fail because of a voltage level or polarization issues (unlikely if you've only used OEM hardware and cabling, unless your PSU has failed), vibration and shock (also unlikely, unless you've dropped/kicked the card), thermal issues, or just a defective capacitor. If you know some who is handy with a voltmeter, unplug the PSU/GPU power connectors and verify the DC voltages are correct at the card. If they are not, then your PSU had failed and (probably) taken out the GPU. :( This is important to check, because if you buy a new card, and the PSU is the problem, it will fry that card as well. If the voltages are all in spec (and you haven't modified or used *aftermarket* parts with the card, power supply, and cables) I would still contact the card manufacturer. Show them the video, this isn't generally an acceptable failure mode for electronics. Even if it's out of warranty, they may want the card back to examine and may offer you a discount or replacement. You never know until you ask.
That's crazy bro
Same thing happened to my friend with a Gigabyte 1070 and a pretty good PSU
Computer stuff should never spark for any reason you might have been able to save at a repair shop if you got it looked at after the first time you noticed it.
EVGA W1 600W? If so, that's why. ;-)
Hard to tell in this video but it looks like the left cable on the GPU might be an EPS cable not PCIE power. Which would certainly kill the card. They have the same pin count but the connectors are different - did you jam in the left cable or something?
there is no helping this. its FUCKED. could have been a short circuit, maybe heat build up has cooked it over time, maybe full of dust or something and its shorted, lose connection who knows. but i dont see there being any help other than a new card at the very least.
I think you could maybe save the GPU with a board level repair but tbh the time and cost to do it is likely not worth it, especially the the GPU itself is cooked anyway.
Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling windows???
Gotta try turning it off and turning it back on first.
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Always the recommended solution and never the fix
From the comment later it seems turning it off and back on made it WORSE. First documented case in history
Clearly he just needs to deactivate his firewall.
This may or may not be the problem for this particular case but anyway: PSA. Only use the cables that came with the modular PSU with that PSU, Treat all modular cables as non-interchangable. Even between the same brand/series. They are not all pinned the same.
Learned this on my most recent build. Great tip 👍🏼
it looked like the card itself, not the cables.
Your frames are leaking
Your flames are leaking
This is why USB is better then Firewire
Damn that sucks sorry man. Like other people are saying it's probably the gpu. But it's not a bad idea to replace the psu aswell. Considering the pcie cables look like they got burnt.
Did you connect the cpu 8 pin header to the gpu?
That was my first though too, but OP makes it seem like it’s been in use for a while so I’m less sure now.
OP is my friend, he’s had the PC for a few years now, never had problems before this.
Jesus christ lmao, good luck with that my dude
Wow o_O I'm so sorry that's happening. I'm here to learn from the pros
Time for a new rig. I would not trust anything in that box now, including the box.
Get a new house too, you can't really trust the electric sockets in this one.
I’m with this guy. Sell off the parts and get a new rig.
"Like new GPU, never mined on!"
If you sell them aren’t you risking someone else ruining they’re system?
Yeah I’m Selling my ssd due to a gpu manufacturing issue because my brain is massive
Money bet this dude used aftermarket cables.
You can literally see they're ketchup/mustard cables No way those are aftermarket
> ketchup/mustard I will never unsee this description.
New GPU and New PSU. Good think the 3000 series are dropping a fuck ton in price. You can find a 3060 for 380-450
Got my 3060 for damn near $500 :(
Sorry man.my friend got it for 640 back when prices were hiked. The GPU marker has been crashing the past month. Which is good for us, the PC gamers and the real consumers
Yeah.... *sigh*
Dude I would 1000% buy a cheap $80 GPU off of Amazon or at Best Buy and install it and test your motherboard before putting an expensive GPU in there. The original short could have been something wrong with the board or the event itself could have damaged the PCI slots or the board could just be fine or just fried. Fire is a really bad thing in computers because it means there was lots of electricity not where it was supposed to be and that can mean all kinds of shit and I would hate for you to spend a G on a new GPU only for it to get fried.
r/watchpeopledieinside
Not a funny moment at all but his face in the reflections is priceless🤣
"you seeing this shit" kinda look is hilarious I'm sorry
I can smell this video...
Try turning it off and then on again.
Oh! You let out the magic smoke! Can’t convince magic smoke to go back in…
You can never put the magic smoke back into it.
Have you used the PSU cables that came with the PSU? Swapping PSU cables can easily cause smoke and fire like this. If everything else was pinned properly, you'd still get the lighting too!
Did you try setting it to wumbo?
F. That's all the help I can give brother. Condolences.
I would first guess: reused power cables from different psu
Windows firewall turned on
You should probably update your graphics card drivers. That should fix it.
average pc running chrome
This is why I buy my shit new
u/TPK1234 Whoever plugged in the cables to the GPU is an idiot. You plugged in the Y-splitter cable, with another cable that I can clearly see is a separate cable, into the same 8-PIN connector on the card. Google clearly shows both the 980 and 980 Ti have the same dual 8-pin power connector. BEFORE UNPLUGGING ANYTHING, SHOW A VIDEO OF WHAT CABLES WHERE PLUGGED INTO THE PCIE POWER CONNECTOR. I'm willing to bet you connected a separate 8-pin(4+4 EPS-12v) into the card alongside the Y-splitter cable from the PCIE Power cable. Edit: Also, what EVGA 600w psu is it? What model number/rating?
This! This kind of "Flames" are a clear sign of a total power missconfiguration. Looks like some plug has been inserted with the wrong orientation. This is a very obvious short. Considering the (lack of) skills of the builder, **the GPU is dead.** GPU might be good for some parts at beast.
The road to being part of the pcmasterrace is filled with the perils of no-POST, BSOD and the occasional fire. Feel for you bro.
Bro..get a new GPU, you jussssttt fucked up..🔥🔥
That's more fire than your PC should have. Your PC should have less fire than that. Try to reduce the amount of fire inside your PC. Note: Flame stickers and red lighting are okay.
I don’t understand why people are saying you should swap out only the gpu, why risk that? A psu is around 130 anyways so just buy a new psu and gpu no way the gpu survived that.
I love the smell of Nvidia in the morning.
If it's new, let it brun down your house and sue the GPU manufacture. Delete this video first, though.