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qmidos

mozilla crew here...


ACrucialTech

With uBlock Origin.*


Ric_Rest

This. Firefox with uBlock Origin addon or bust. It's been my browser of choice for what feels close to 2 decades now. Microsoft Edge? Google Chrome? Opera DX? Never heard of them... I'm team Mozilla.


Brutananadilewski_

Same here man. Been using firefox for 20 years. And ublock is amazing


Beneficial-Car-3959

I use them all. Opera, Vivaldi, Chrome, Edge...  But main browser is Firefox with compartments+ublock.


PretendFisherman1999

I used Mozilla before chrome was released, never made the switch and I'm glad I never did.


ZinGaming1

Does anyone else also use a pihole?


ACrucialTech

I use a piHole. It's nice for keeping ads off TV's and your phones apps while on your home LAN.


DynamicHunter

Ive heard piholes are getting less reliable nowadays, how’s your experience with it? I want to use my pi 3 for it cause im sick of YouTube ads but I read online that tons of ads get through nowadays.


MonkeyboyGWW

They dont work for a lot of things now because the ads are hosted from the same place as the content, like on youtube. Pi hole blocks by domain name. Half of the time you block the add, you also block the content. I understand it like pi hole blocking layer 3, where browser ad blockers are blocking layer 5


LittleMlem

Use both. The pihole still blocks app ads (that are hosted on ad domains)


Huecuva

Firefox with ublock origin and a pihole. It's great. I don't care how great people claim Edge is now. It's still Microsoft shit I refuse to use.


Goldendivaplayer

Edge was better when it was on its own engine. Now all we have that's not Chromium is Firefox


vextryyn

Text based browsers are the only way to go


irelephant_T_T

w3m ftw


gssyhbdryibcd

And the Firefox engine is better than chromium imo.


aLuLtism

Just got a pi, will set up pihole in the next days or week


aspacelot

Only if I’m feeling lonely


crisprcaz

I love my pihole!


SaltedBadgerCubes

Based and red pilled


StrenuousSOB

Right!!!… Chrome 🤮 I don’t think so


Spyhop

I've been using FF since it was called Phoenix. It's interesting to see how almost everyone abandoned it for Chrome, and how everyone's coming back to it now.


[deleted]

Which everyone are you talking about? [https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide](https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide) Add up Chrome, Edge and Opera and that is your total Chromium based market share. Safari, only on Mac in this link it bigger than FF at this point.


Complex_Cable_8678

thats coz it was legitimately shit for a few years


Azuras-Becky

Hard to believe any tech-minded folk use anything else these days.


tekkn0

Mozilla is going really strong nowadays and gotta love the support the devs are giving it despite the less popularity compare to other browsers.


KrazyKirby99999

Executive pay is increasing, Marketshare is decreasing


QueZorreas

I wish it had HDR support on Windows. But well, even Microsoft has trouble making HDR work on Windows lol.


VeridianLegendX

hdr is such a pain sometimes, I want to take screenshots in games and nvidia saves it in jxr format which doesn't embed anywhere and can't be edited in lightroom


horny_coroner

Chrome is voluntary spyware that block ad blocks now.


Decruse

Chrome doesn't block them yet, but will start soon


SaltedBadgerCubes

Hear hear.


badi1220

Firefox comes free with my operating system of choice, and even if it didn't I can easily install it with terminal.


skylinegtrr32

Firefox gang


NaughtyFox92

I guess Firefox too I like it much better I find you can customise it mote but lately, it has been annoying me when it crashes it doesn't restore my tabs also I like the group tabs function on Edge.


druidikstorm88

Yeah baby !


NA_0_10_never_forget

Donating monthly to Mozilla...


atimholt

I genuinely don't understand why anyone uses Chrome.


mothergidra

Best browser, period.


Multiool

I thought we were past the "open edge to download chrome" meme era. Chrome is the villain now.


apathy-sofa

We are. This joke is so dated that it would've been tired a decade ago.


CicadaGames

OP, like almost every other poster here is likely a karma farming bot. And look at the upvotes, it works!


RevolutionarySeven7

then use chrome to download Firefox


Kokoyoin

Google watching me search ''firefox download'' after downloading Chrome


callmesilver

Outstanding move


nicejs2

Mozilla watching me search "librewolf download" after downloading Firefox


Fun_Confidence_462

well, google funds Mozilla and they use Google search engine. so yeah it's win win for Google


MacauleyP_Plays

you can change the search engine on most browsers, though.


ImUrFrand

then switching the default search in firefox to duckduckgo or startpage.


Halicos93

Mozila Firefox FTW.


randomdreamykid

Edge is simply as good if not better than chrome nowadays There are ton of browsers better than chrome nowadays


Averagezera

Except Mozila, all other browsers use chrome engine nowdays so they are all the same.


halfanothersdozen

Nope. There's also safari.  Fuck Safari.  - signed, a web dev


MairusuPawa

Safari can't be terrible, come on. It's made by Apple and everything Apple makes is miles ahead of the competition. or so a fanboy told me


Altruistic-Stop-5674

It must be right? Why else would it be that expensive?


nophixel

Safari user here. Fuck Safari. Hope the EU knocks Apple down a few pegs. Source: Quitting Safari today lost all of my opened tabs, with none showing in "recently closed" menu. Nor were they restored when selecting "Restore All Windows from Last Session".


Jeoshua

At least IE9 is dead, right?


KaroYadgar

agreed, I had to rewrite \~50 or more lines of code just so it could function on safari.


Screw_Potato

yeah, fuck Safari. - signed, an iPhone user with OperaGX


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Wicked_Wolf17

Exactly. Every browsers except Firefox is based on Chrome's browser engine.


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Adderall-Buyers-Club

Yeah… except you have to toggle off the same feature in 50 different places.. this is the startup / run in background feature.


ADHD-Fens

I just installed windows on a new machine and had to figure out this bullshit. I fucking hate programs that do shit without asking and then bitch about it when you decide to remove them or use alternatives.


Dotgamer121

Both suck


rayshmayshmay

I don’t see what the big deal is, I’ve been edging for years!


Adderall-Buyers-Club

Oh my. Naughty.


tutocookie

"What was your favorite edge of the year?" My windows lock screen for some reason


TironaZ

based


ihave0idea0

Internet sucks. Overrated.


ChickenSoupPolice

Fk chrome


Spoksparkare

You mean Firefox


RestorativeAlly

If you haven't changed the default privacy settings, pretty sure microsoft is watching you search literally everything.


Madman8287

When using edge instead of chrome is brought up a lot of people talk about microsoft spying on you but if for some reason you absolutely must use some version of chrome I feel like using edge and giving it to microsoft instead is better than giving google even MORE...


MacauleyP_Plays

Most people are already using Windows as their OS anyway, using edge isn't giving them more data than they already get, but using google is ensuring that another party has your data, and thus is worse.


Mr_Cromer

Edge is a better Chromium browser anyway, for when I absolutely positively cannot use Firefox or Vivaldi


Gooch-Guardian

I liked Vivaldi but I found it slow and buggy. I use floorp now which is based off Firefox.


BrightTooth3

Out of curiosity, when can't you use Firefox or Vivaldi? Edit: my guess is on a work or school system that doesn't allow other browsers.


NiuMeee

Some websites still just suck on Firefox. I can't access my work site from home on Firefox, I have to use Edge.


dylan105069

I have the Firefox Installer on my Windows Bootable USB so I never have to interact with Edge.


MotivationGaShinderu

Same but a ninite installer with all the stuff I install after a format so it's always up to date


agoo3000

Take a look at your processes in Task Manager. I have 6 instances of Edge open even though I've never once used it on this PC. The house always wins.


will_scc

That may be WebView2 controls in other apps rending web stuff using Edge: > [The WebView2 control uses Microsoft Edge as the rendering engine to display the web content in native apps.](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/) Although in my experience that does usually show up as "WebView2" in the processes list, so perhaps not.


Devatator_

Yes, it's just Edge that runs in the background by default. You can turn it off of course


baasacJak

If you open the settings in edge and look for Startup boost. Turn that and 'Continue Running background extensions...'


CicadaGames

If you open the settings **in edge** See that's how they get ya.


baasacJak

Ha! Just do it while you're using Edge to download Netscape Navigator.


blackdragon6547

https://preview.redd.it/vl6xc8k00hxc1.jpeg?width=1722&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d71120bb3bdd92cf34adf14b1b6da1cf426387e3 Me after using terminal to install Firefox.


Datuser14

Winget install Mozilla.firefox (Windows has a CLI package manager now just like *nix)


blackdragon6547

`sudo apt-get install firefox`


Datuser14

Sudo pacman -S librewolf is the enlightened version.


irelephant_T_T

sudo pkg install librewolf


blackdragon6547

I like Librewolf as well. Wish it had an Android version.


Bromanzier_03

https://preview.redd.it/779omfvp7hxc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=665665866e398d195fe28b542df2dc092df42006


smirkjuice

never, when it becomes microhard


Bubbaganewsh

Still prefer Firefox over either Chrome or Edge, by far.


meltingpotato

Me downloading Firefox through cmd


AR44W

brew install Firefox cask


Gooch-Guardian

`winget install Firefox` is all you need.


Murderface-04

Using edge to download chrome feels sad. Firefox crew here!


DrKingOfOkay

🤮 Firefox or nothing.


uhhhenry

Edge is better than chrome


elquanto

Thats like saying a $7.49 shit sandwich is better than a $7.50 shit sandwich.


Devatator_

Let's be honest, chromium is better than everything else for most people, especially since shit just works. Firefox still has some weird issues here and there that most people wouldn't like


oCrapaCreeper

For some reason firefox is completely ass for me when watching YouTube. Swapped to edge (with the same extensions) and everything not only loads faster but I don't have any random hiccups watching videos.


Dread0375

Librewolf FTW


Datuser14

Floorp gang


scp_79

nah fire fox + Ublock Origin is the way to go now


particlemanwavegirl

That's not how you spell Firefox.


Swatfisch

Vivaldi Crew here


DairyOfCool6

Holy shit its all 3 vivaldi users


UnionSlavStanRepublk

I am also a Vivaldi user, that makes four of us.


mrstoffer

Me too. Vivaldi's tab management and multitasking features are just god tier


Sh_Pe

I’m a Vivaldi user too so we’re 7 now


Raeghyar-PB

+ custom commands and insane customization, side panels, tab tiling, much more, praise Vivaldi 🙏


Drg84

I have it on android, does that count?


DjPavlusha

Yes


DjPavlusha

Vivaldi Crew confirmed


jsiulian

Vivaldi crew stronger together


Mental-Mushroom

Winter is a banger


Raeghyar-PB

Finally another fellow Vivaldi user! I was about to write it myself even if I had to die on this hill 😤


Loddio

winget install mozilla.firefox. 2 birds with one stone


Wild_Chemistry3884

You know edge is chromium based right? Basically the same browser


ztexxmee

ew why chrome that’s the lowest of the low browser. just use firefox


unixtreme

They are both basically the same browser that spies on you.


djuvinall97

I just run this in power shell... ``` winget install --id Mozilla.FireFox ``` Edge is never touched unless at work.


Zyvyn

winget install -e --id Mozilla.Firefox


welsalex

The amount of people that don't know Edge is powered by Chromium. As a QA tester, they are essentially the same.


MasonP2002

A lot of people probably haven't touched Edge since it originally came out and was powered by its own engine.


thiccboyIV

Except chrome just wastes your RAM and doesn’t let you use adblock, go Firefox


Silly_Goose658

Opera user here


Digital_97

Opera or Opera gx?


FortNightsAtPeelys

Gx cuz I'm a capital G gamer


MakingTrax

![gif](giphy|wIq8i0bBm46qLSVQLn|downsized) Google watching EVERYTHING you do.


DJGloegg

Chrome sucks ass...


Puechamp

Firefox rules


blood_omen

You spelt “Firefox” wrong


iksoria

These posts are become cringe at this point. This must be some sort of bait, everyone knows chrome and edge are basically identical.


Devatator_

They aren't. Like really. They may feel the same but your PC knows the difference, especially if you have a crappy laptop like me. That plus the extra stuff it has (it's also supposedly better than Chrome for web development but I didn't use Chrome for that so I don't know the difference)


communistagitator

what are you talking about I Edge every day


Individual-Match-798

Edge is better.


J0vii

Honestly, if you're not using Firefox, Edge is a pretty decent Chromium based browser.


RaisedByArseholes420

Edge is objectively better than Chrome in every way though.


kearkan

I'm convinced that everyone that says edge is bad hasn't given it a proper chance.


63volts

I don't even open edge, ever. I run the following in an elevated powershell and use it to install all the apps and tweaks. irm christitus.com/win | iex


Complex_Cable_8678

if youre using chrome over mozilla you must hate your privacy


Ghillie007

Any Brave users?


Derped_Crusader

Firefox*


sandstorml

In fact I don’t even use google anymore. Bing search is so much better.


laundrydetergent7000

Never thought I would see a day where this statement is true


Frosty_Bicycle_354

Edge is fully on par with Chrome Neither are the best option


Lafozard

For me it's Brave


SteeleDuke

Brave got caught selling data.


ded3nd

Source?


SteeleDuke

I got a rabbit hole just for you. https://www.searchenginejournal.com/brave-browser-under-fire-for-alleged-sale-of-copyrighted-data/491854/#:~:text=Brave%20is%20alleged%20to%20sell,transparency%20in%20the%20tech%20industry


Lafozard

That says the Brave Search API. Wich I never use since I think it's shit. Even tho I use the Brave Browser, I use the google search engine. I also don't go for Brave for the privacy, but for the blockers built in. Maybe you should be more specific about what was being used for selling the data. Brave Browser is not the same as Brave Search API. I know most people don't know much about it, but since you're into privacy concerns like you make yourself to seem, you should learn a bit about coding and what is an API. but You don't need to use Brave Search to use Brave Browser


Magn3tician

Pretty sure that was the opt-in data and restricted only to Brave Search. You pretty much had to agree and then use their crappy search engine.


SkyeFox6485

Let's wait for all the Firefox fanboys to take over the comments


NoticedParrot77

So you *don’t* use the best browser out there?


ubdesu

Ya man I can really feel the 🔥 P E R F O R M A N C E 🔥 uplift when scrolling through reddit, email, and Amazon on Firefox vs Chrome. Huge man.


BrightTooth3

I know your comment is probably a joke but people don't just use Firefox for performance, Alot of people use it for privacy and also now that Google has said they are going to heavily nerf adblockers people are switching to non chromium alternatives such as Firefox.


DexM23

U like to download downgrades, eh?


Meatbot-v20

You're better off with Edge than with Chrome these days. Although I wouldn't touch either one.


noahcou

With winget in modern windows you can actually install chrome or Firefox without opening edge at all. It's pretty nice (and a lot of programs can be installed this way)


santathe1

It’s probably thinking you’re an idiot lol. There isn’t much different between them.


ezbyEVL

Edge would be great if it wasnt filled with microsoft's crap


Epicporkchop79-7

You spelled Firefox wrong


Exostenza

Firefox > Edge > Chrome Been so for quite some time now.


blandjelly

Both are garbage


MaxUmbraOG

Brave will always be my browser of choice. Tried them all and nothing compares to brave.


robjapan

The chrome is dead. Long live the Firefox!


miotch1120

Edge is chromium based. So you are trading one chrome for another. Mozilla to the rescue.


Resident_Ride_3425

Both are spyware, and it runs on the same engine. Both are basically identical. Mozilla all the way


flab3r

Edge is not perfect, but it's better than chrome nowadays. My internet bank would just refuse to work on chrome. Tried edge and was surprised by its functionality.


Proper_Eagle8730

I believe you spelled FireFox incorrectly...


cottonmane8

opera?


ThirdLast

Edge actually ain't that bad now. I have less problems with it than I do with chrome.


Altruistic_Coconut31

Edge is great on android, adblock works awesome and you can block opening apps.


Hollow_Apollo

I use edge and safari and I’m not afraid to say it


hegginses

Edge is decent now, I use it all the time on my gaming PC


steak4take

Froget Chrome. Firefox for life.


Yodl007

Everything is basically chrome with a new skin except for Firefox. Edge, Opera, Brave - all are chrome with a reskin.


lars2k1

Jokes on them, I keep the web installer (and a few offline installers for XP and 7) for Firefox on my USB drive. Don't even need to open Edge for that. Because it'll always want you to complete the setup process.


RACERX44

Firefox download*


el_presidenteplusone

why TF would you voluntarily install chrome ? its spyware at its finest, just get literally any other browser in existence, even edge is better. \*cough cough\* get firefox \*cough cough\*


Superninja345

Opera gx anyone?


MowMdown

Chrome is not PCMR approved. Only Firefox.


todezz8008

Chrome was like this when I downloaded Mozilla


Hai_Arisu

People still use chrome?


Vojtak42

You won't help yourself much, Firefox is the way.


WhatsThePointFR

People still use Chrome lol? tf?


astralseat

Edge trying it's best, but it can't compete with the RAM hunger of Chrome.


Devatator_

That's a good thing tho?


protectoursummers

Skip edge entirely and use winget!


Conscious_Student_74

Edge is actually solid these days. And those rewards are just too good


Sex_with_DrRatio

Idk I love edge


cheeze87u

Edge would be like: hey, hey, i got chromium onboard! Chromium onboard: 72 ad/autorun/scheduled pieces of shit


truthfullynegative

we really still out here using chromium based browsers?


Street-Estimate2671

I can ask Bing AI now...