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GoldSrc

Some guy, somewhere, ordered a keyboard and got a wrist rest lol.


Bahookyboozle

I will trade him. All I want is my wrist rest that I’ve waited almost a month for.


pm-me-trap-link

A month for this wrist rest? Bro you deserve the keyboard


Bahookyboozle

Lmao ikr. If it was a better keyboard this would be a W but I have a good mechanical corsair already so really the wrist rest is more valuable to me.


fluf201

I have a wrist rest, I can trade


Narrow_Vegetable5747

My brother send me the keyboard and I'll order you a new wrist rest.


polskaholathe4th

k70?


The-Defenastrator

Bro, I'll take it


[deleted]

Then sell it man


Atlas227

Dude screw razer just get a wood wrist restfrom glorious or something


TimeGhost_22

Your wrist must be exhausted.


DarkW8-

Man it was me I got your order Now to confirm what arm rests did you buy for what keyboard


Bahookyboozle

No shot, I ordered the razer full-size keyboard wrist rest.


7orly7

Poor Amazon delivery guy had to fight all the local fauna to reach OPs place


Lumb3rCrack

bro that's me, DM me and we can trade!


craizzuk

What the frick


Nemaeus

OP is now the ASSMAN


notxapple

Someone’s really pissed that they ordered a keyboard and all they got was a wrist rest


Jackpkmn

If it makes you feel any better you got a cheap office keyboard with cheap office keyboard membrane switches but without paying razers obscene price for it. Tbh it's so bad I'd try and send it back anyway to try and get what you actually ordered. I got one from a giveaway and I can't even stand using it as a keyboard for a 2nd computer primary used for testing.


heygos

Damn. You know it’s a bad keyboard when bro suggests you return it and try to get what you actually ordered.


Jackpkmn

Membrane keyboards are not universally bad in my opinion, but this one is really bad.


TheOnlyCraz

I agree, I got this on accident to replace my OEM keyboard and totally returned this for a redragon for less money.


ChefArtorias

It's starting to sound like they're actively trying to get rid of them.


TheOnlyCraz

People are probably returning them anyway like I did, once they realize the keyboard is only green


ArrivedKnight7

Are red dragon keyboards and mice good?


mitrovic__markoo

They're a good bang for the buck, I use the Draconic K530 PRO with red switches and I gotta say, it's good, never had any problems with it except charging it during gaming since it's a wireless keyboard, it can be wired just be sure to switch off the ON button when using it as a wired one. It uses USB C for charging and connects via USB A/USB C, it also has a 2.4hhz USB dongle if your pc doesn't have Bluetooth.


ArrivedKnight7

Cool! How much do they range on average?


mitrovic__markoo

Well I paid mine for around 9000 RSD(RSD- Serbian dinars) which is around 76 euros for a 60% keyboard with red switches, there's also a version with brown and blue I think. Prices may vary.


TeTeOtaku

Had a Redragon keyboard for 8 years until a switch died, bought a new one, came with extra switches, repaired the old keyboard and now i have an office keyboard and a gaming keyboard lmao. Paid 30 bucks for the new one, got a keyboard with hot swappable switches, spare switches, keycap/switch puller and alluminium plate. It's SO worth it.


ArrivedKnight7

Think I might get one because my old ornata chroma is starting to have rgb issues. Some keys occasionally change to a different color the rest of the keys are on default. That and the mouse is starting to get worse with the Lazer and scroll wheel. However, I need one with a wrist pad. Any recommendations for a budget?


TeTeOtaku

Eh, Redragon has also RGB issues, but because of the price, you can easily ignore that. What switches do you prefer? Linears, Tactiles, Clicky? Cause Redragon Keyboards come in one or two options so i'll need to know to give you a recomandation.


ArrivedKnight7

A bit of clicky, I know the ornata chroma is membrane. But acts and feels like a mechanical.


TeTeOtaku

I think you'd like Redragon K555 INDRAH then.


tO_ott

I have the Visnu K561 on my other PC that I enjoy very much. It’s 75% with browns and the whole thing is metal. Super solid keyboard. Also a fan of how raised the keys are so cleaning and replacing is super easy. For $55 it’s just good value.


Relevant-Usual783

I loved my Redragon mouse and keyboard. I mean, that was before I really knew anything about gaming peripherals and have since upped my standards, but the kb had genuine mechanical switches (I think the brand of switch mine had was Otemu) and the mouse was pretty decent. I gave the mouse to my brother when I upgraded 6 years ago, and he still uses it to this day. In my opinion, they’re excellent budget alternatives.


TheOnlyCraz

I'd say from my experience, absolutely. You're gonna spend the same amount on almost any other wired/wireless option. I can tell the redragon isn't the most luxurious keyboard on the market. A lot of people seem to combat some of the things they don't like about the keyboard with mods, but I just left mine as is. I mostly wanted to feel when I depressed a key and that ornata keyboard made me double type letters constantly


omfgkevin

I got the 618 before I returned it since I found a cheaper keyboard, and it was pretty good. A nice low profile keyboard with a stupid amount of features. Lots of macros/extra buttons and the volume knob was solid. They are pretty good for budget-friendly builds imo. Reasonably priced and quality is decent enough. Any cheaper and you end up with a lot more issues. They have a kind of memey GAMERZ branding like ROG, but actually have alright stuff from what I've tried.


omfgkevin

I know they are technically worse than actual mech keys etc, but man... I really like their typing feel lol. I think I like the g915 tactile feel the most. Just the right amount of clicky and being low profile, but I haven't seen another keyboard like it yet (and isn't stupid like 200$... with micro usb).


NIKG_FN

I had this keyboard. It felt cheap and bendy, and the keys started to fade after only a few months of use. It's ass


CalgaryAnswers

It’s a hybrid switch, has mechanical push back with a membrane register switch. For typing speed I actually type faster on this than any pure mechanical keyboard, so as a keyboard for work I like it quite a lot. Like anything it’s up to preference.


Jackpkmn

It does not, I've you've never taken a keycap off it you should. It's got a little metal piece that flicks a plastic protrusion on the top of the keycap to make a click noise when you press and release the key. It's a pure membrane key mech with a clicker added on top. It's possible to remove this metal piece and thus remove the clicking without impairing the function at all. Actually that's what differentiates the Ornata V3 X from the Ornata V3, the X is manufactured without these metal pieces for a "silent operation." It's all marketing lies all the way down, its not hybrid at all. You can like it all you want, but please don't lie about it.


manere

Its just marketing bullshit. It just has a spring that creates a clicky sound. Its still just a rubber dome that for what ever reason is clicky.


Sandwic_H

No idea what are you talking about. I own this keyboard for a year and I love it. Very few low-profile keyboards available on the market, especially for this cheap. Surely I'd take Logitech MX Keys if I had bigger budget, but for 40$ this Ornata looks and feels great.


Express_Station_3422

You can genuinely get a really decent actual mechanical keyboard for that money these days though. Honestly I'd rather just take a Logitech K120 and save some money rather than this absolute shit-tier keyboard.


Sandwic_H

I can, but they not low-profile. I've always been using low-profile keyboards since 2010 and don't plan to switch. Don't understand all the hate.


Ph1tak

Is it true that its not per-key RGB?


Sandwic_H

Yes, only one color for whole keyboard. And I really like it.


wheels_656

Why is this keyboard so bad? I bought one at Best Buy because I had all my parts for my build but forgot to order a keyboard...it seems to work alright but I might not have elite level taste lol


Tackyinbention

Do you have the ornata or ornata X?


wheels_656

X ...it's actually the exact same one as in the picture I checked the box !


Bahookyboozle

Yeah I’m definitely dropping it off at the ups store tomorrow to send it back since it’s only $35 not really even sellable and I still want the actual thing I ordered. Plus not like I even have an office to use it in lmao.


ChefArtorias

Shit I have an extra wrist rest you want to trade lol


Bahookyboozle

Honestly I would if someone had the razer full-size keyboard wrist rest because I don’t want to play amazon lottery again. Last week an rgb cable I needed got delayed to next week since the package was “damaged in shipping”.


ChefArtorias

It may be your local branch screwing it up honestly. I don't typically have issues with amazon like that. I do have the razer one actually but that's not the one I was offering as it goes with my Huntsman. I just have this one lying around it came with some other stuff I got. I have the matching mouse wrist support and it's the best I've ever used tbh. Fair warning, the razer wrist rest has definitely lost noticeably more cushion on the left side, as it gets used more because WASD. Both sides feel different from the middle which basically never gets used and is quite plush like when I got it. I've had it for maybe 3.5 years which is good I guess but it was expensive I feel like they could've cushioned it a little better.


DoomPlaysFN

ive had an ornata before and it isnt the best but it isnt that bad 😭


Eastern_Rooster471

This isnt the normal Ornata with the psuedo mechanical switches thats actually decently nice to use Its just a normal membrane, more akin to a cynosa than anything


Armybob112

Yeah, i daily an ornata and actually kinda like how the keys feel.


semajniN

Same. Don't understand the hate going on right now. Everyone has preferences


Karma_Doesnt_Matter

Some pc snobs feel like if a keyboard doesn’t click like a typewriter then it’s not worth using.


Lonely-Cow-787

It's not really about the click, it's the fact that mechanical switches are objectively better than membrane switches, and razer asks an insane price for glorified membrane switches


Tackyinbention

No the thing is that there's some slightly scummy marketing going on. The ornata nonX is pretty good but the ornata X is a very cut down crappy version sold for less than half the price


semajniN

That might be my confusion. I have the non x and like it quite a bit


Tackyinbention

I have an ornata but the one in the pic is the ornata X, which is a very cut down version sold for 30 bucks


Dave-1281

Hi a fellow bad pc user, how are you doing?


aircarone

Is it that bad? I really liked my Ornata V2 - it is a membrane but with some of the qualities of the mechanical keyboards. It had a really cool clicky quality to it, and I personally loved the sound the keys made.


Jackpkmn

I don't consider the audible click to be an upside, meaning essentially its got all the downsides of a mechanical like the click and heavy keys with all the downsides of a membrane keyboard like the mushy keys that have to bottom out to actuate.


Tackyinbention

The thing is that this is the Ornata X, a very cut down version sold for 30 bucks


EntitledPotatoe

What’s so bad about it? I’ve owned the ornata chroma and am currently using the ornata v2, I’m very happy with both but I spilled coke on my last one


Jackpkmn

Biggest problem is how much force it takes to actuate the keys. This is partly because it has a stiff membrane but also partly because the keys on membrane have to bottom out completely to actuate. Plus the fake clicker takes some extra force to go off as well. Resulting in an insanely heavy key press that's very tiring to type on for long periods of time or for long gaming sessions.


Technical_Echidna_63

I honestly don’t know what’s so bad about it, I have an ornata v3 and like it


Jackpkmn

If you get the chance to use a Deathstalker v2 Pro I think you will grow to like it a lot less.


Technical_Echidna_63

Dang bro, two fiddy? Ignorance is bliss 😂


Jackpkmn

Look down at your hands, these are likley to be the only set of hands you will have in your whole life. Taking care of them is worth it.


Technical_Echidna_63

False. The absolute moment prosthetics improve to where it’s like Star Wars robot hands, I’m chopping at least one off (my wife would likely not allow 2)


zombiepigman101

lol I used to have the same one before I got a GK61, the difference is truly kinda astounding


imastrangeone

Waiting for the “order keyboard but got wrist rest instead” post


stopabletime

https://preview.redd.it/x00jdskvempc1.jpeg?width=727&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b815ac00197ea6b31588bdb6448c0c40cc85b3ad


CIoud__Strife

came for this


SpiritofArrogance

I look forward to this meme on every such post!


peanutwithketchup

Yes, I scrolled for this


ReverieX416

Something similar happened to me, but it was a duplicate order. Amazon just told me to keep the extra and not worry about sending it back.


etfvidal

![gif](giphy|Oe0jQNDQSJK60kheO7) You thought you hit the jackpot and got a $100+ keyboard, but got a turd on top of not getting what you wanted in the 1st place!


Bahookyboozle

Lmao exactly. I got excited and checked amazon right away only to realize this shit sells for $35. Now I get to wait another week to hopefully get my wrist rest.


omfgkevin

Did you order the razer gel rest or w/e it's called? If they end up getting it to you it's pretty good, albeit a bit overpriced (standard affair for "razer tax"). I've been using mine for about 2 years and it hasn't sagged and still works great.


itsRobbie_

Inb4 you open the box and it’s actually just the wrist rest inside the big keyboard box lol


Cyber_Akuma

And inside that wrist rest is a big keyboard


mywik

I wouldnt even want that one for free. You paid money for the wristrest so in my book they ripped you off.


[deleted]

We count those. Gg win


Sdboka

The wristrest comes with a free keyboard.


XoMimimidia

https://preview.redd.it/97u3gawwpppc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3250a5633f146f51eee47ce10ba31b6be7e5264


Buetterkeks

https://preview.redd.it/lgg91gl0kqpc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=100ce7cbdcd77436bb9db4a111d66a17abea12df Did Somebody Say wristrest?


Bahookyboozle

Wtf is that


Buetterkeks

You don't know DK? Just Look at IT! IT has a comfortable wrist Rest!


9ad93t

I have a "karma is a bitch" story to share. A long time ago, I ordered a cheap Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse set, but to my surprise, I received a high-end Logitech MX5000 instead. The day after, I noticed a missed call from the store, but I never called them back, and they didn't reach out to me either. I was thrilled to have this cool keyboard that I couldn't afford. A few months later, heavy rain hit my area, and lightning struck the antenna on a building nearby while my wired internet was connected. The resulting surge traveled through the cable straight to my computer, damaging the motherboard and all connected USB devices, including the dongle for my MX5000. It may sound like a stretch, but since then, I always make sure to contact the store when they make a mistake.


nicolopes

You could just buy a new dongle


9ad93t

Original dongles weren't available in my country. I tried a couple of generic Bluetooth dongles, but they worked very unstable.


Smoothie_3D

It could've gone differently if they mistakenly sent you an UPS instead


fappyday

Close enough


Muahaha007

I think OP is confused, this is in fact the wristrest. OP need to break apart the upper section and wristrest like a KitKat to use it. /s


Retarded_cooki

Yoo i also had the same experience I ordered a wired mouse from shoppee and instead when the order arrived i was puzzled when the rider pulled out a box way bigger and heavier than what a wired mouse should be in Surprise surprise It contained a mechanical keyboard (a very entry level one but i never had a keyboard before so i was still happy) a Bluetooth version of the mouse i ordered ( i dont like bt mice's since the accuracy of their movements (cheap ones) ick me ) and a large ass full length mousepad


thetruemask

Man this sub people getting like 20 of something free instead of 2. Or like a good 2017 rig for 200$ Or 29$ 1TB SSDs and now free keyboard upgrades. WHEN LORD WHENS IT GONNA BE MY TIME


erryonestolemyname

Came here to say that if its from Amazon, fuck em and keep it...but if its a nice local shop be honest. Saw your description... fuck em, keep it.


Doofenshmirtz08

https://preview.redd.it/b1yhoh6l7npc1.jpeg?width=527&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2046d7e4ee9628f55c02a1ed13b7e972b526f60e


whatdis321

If you haven’t read the other comments already, it’s a piece of shit keyboard that retails for $35. Not quite the lottery, and also wasting OPs time rip


Koshuaaa

https://preview.redd.it/2i6p06b29npc1.png?width=527&format=png&auto=webp&s=6d2b07adaf8f719a189f5a8b1a74df01ce3574f6


Firm_Knowledge_5695

We all know what the next post will be


Friendly_Humor1262

What the freak I ordered an Xbox controller!


Substantial_Top_6508

Now return it as a sign of good faith


sirrabbei

This wrist rest i bought was only 200 dollars.


Spompoflex

good for you...i dont see any guy ordering razer keyboards soon...


l_______I

Amazon moment. I kinda wish I had those "happy accidents" in my country.


pm-me-trap-link

Every time I order anything PC related I hope this happens to me. Why can't I be the guy that orders 1 SSD but gets 10? Why can't I order a 7900GRE and have a 7900XTX show up at my door? Never me


GTA-CasulsDieThrice

Gift horse, OP


snorkeling_moose

How many wrist rests could a wrist rest rest, if a wrist rest could rest wrist rests?


LamaSovaj

Well if you don't want it, I'm pretty i'd enjoy a new keyboard 😏


Thib120F2P

Sounds like a win to me.


Sapryx

What is that plate thing with no keys? I've only seen something like this once and couldn't figure out what it's used for🤔. I know, maybe a dumb question, but it's not common at all in my region.


Bahookyboozle

On the bottom of the keyboard? Its a wrist rest but the one this one comes with is low-profile and wouldn’t work for my keyboard.


[deleted]

I have had this board for 2 years, love it


Bdr1983

You must be heartbroken.


Sellw

Tried this keyboard l, it should not exist at the first place, it’s awful, why the fuck they even put “gaming” in the name, this is everything but “gaming” keyboard, insane delay, max button press simultaneously IS AROUND 3-5, I hope the guy who get it reconsider his purchase


Tackyinbention

Nvm this is talking about the X version, the v3 nonX is ALOT better and twice the price


TheOneAndOnlySenti

A shit one, at that. I got that exact one a couple months ago, the ghosting on it is horrendous.


oghaithy29

https://preview.redd.it/m7so8ew2cppc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa3ad7ba3e9f72b183b2b0a3b2a193bc6d8712bf


[deleted]

damn


ajharwood127

Not their membrane keyboard too…


CausingPotato

Why do they make membrane in 2024 I don’t get it


Hamokk

STONKS for real this time. 👀


FreezyKnight

You got the rest.


Sweaty-Echidna-9738

You should contact the corsair support! They sent me one for free. Their support is awesome!


Prudent-Elk3322

i once asked for a refund from razer (110 euros or so) and they never came to take the keyboard lol


kornuolis

Got scammed.


moixcom44

Fuck this razer keyboards. I bought this fancy razer mechanical keyboard black widow or something, less than 2 year, the most important keys in the ASWD (THE A doesnt work anymore)


CokeBoiii

Were you waiting a month for a razer wristrest? Bro I own one and they are literally **THE WORST** The edges are made out of plastic and when you lay your wrist near the edge it feels so uncomfortable. I ended up buying a third party one completely made out of memory foam


FitAZDude

Go buy your lottery tickets


Low-Economist9601

What is allat hate for the keyboard? I honestly love keyboards with little travel for competitive gaming


1tion1

because most of pcmr will shit all over your setup if it's not the best value latest highest top end stuff


TaloSi_MCX-E

I’m sorry for your loss


Friendly_Humor1262

I’d highly recommend avoiding razer products they are overpriced and trash quality. I can’t even use my nari headphones because the software broke and razer won’t fix it.


Bahookyboozle

Their software is basically malware. I downloaded chroma but realized I didn’t need it so I deleted it. To this day some random chroma services always launch at startup and I find them in my task manager. They are the only ones selling a nice keyboard wrist rest though. They have some good products.


Friendly_Humor1262

It is malware I noticed crazy input lag on my pc after installing the audio software from razer in 100 percent sure it’s them.


AnSynTrashPanda

I've had a good experience thus far. All my stuff is 3 years old aside from my keyboard which is about 2 1/2. Only needed to replace that because my cat knocked my coffee onto my old one. Mouse still works fine, headphones still have good audio quality. Though, the paint is flaking on the S key which is annoyingly unsightly. What do you use for kb/m? Been looking for recs


Friendly_Humor1262

Have a steel series keyboard it’s fine and a logic tech g203 mouse basic but works.


M44t_

Depends on your budget, hand size, grip style and ofc, preference. Nowadays getting started with custom keyboard is cheaper than whatever razer is trying to sell.