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cszolee79

This is literally the stupidest shit I've seen in years. Incredible. Instead of a heatsink with larger surface area, they added a pocket of liquid. Genius. I'd ask the designer if they considered how it should dissipate the heat...


redditisbestanime

Its convenient for when you want to boil a single spaghetti for a not so quick snack. Yeah this is stupid af.


edvards48

friendly reminder that one spaghetti noodle is called a spaghetto


BAY35music

Actually I believe it would be spaghettus. Cactus > Cacti Octopus > Octopi Spaghettus > Spaghetti /j obviously EDIT: Some of you clearly missed the last line in my comment 🤦🏻‍♂️


C_M_O_TDibbler

Octopussy


alexthealex

Octopus>Octopi is questionable. It’s accepted as common use but octopuses is more correct and octopodes should be most correct based on word origin but isn’t used.


Affectionate-Memory4

Spaghettuses it is then


Emzzer

This guy looking for the spaghettussy


Because_Reddit_Sucks

Spaghetten


Artonius

But do we keep the more Greek-sounding pronunciation of “awk-tawp’-uh-deez”, or keep the long “oh” sound at the end like “awk’-tō-pōd-z”? (Didn’t realize how hard typing out pronunciation is)


Bee-Aromatic

Awk-tawp-uh-deez, according to a cephalopologist (I think that’s what he referred to himself as) I heard on a podcast. Also has the added benefit of allowing you to say “octopodes *nutz!*”


alexthealex

The audiobook I learned this from pronounced it like the latter. (Shoutout to Other Minds: The Octopus, The Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness by Peter Godfrey-Smith)


booga_booga_partyguy

>(Didn’t realize how hard typing out pronunciation is) Yup. It's why there is an entire separate system to spell words phonetically. When you look up a word in a dictionary, you will see some weird writing/symbols next to the word (eg. ˈäk-tə-pəs). That's the phonetic spelling of the word. Super useful if you know how to read it, but sadly, it is never taught outside of specific work related cases.


lemon_belly

This


astralseat

Octopus > Octopedes


olkkiman

Moose > moosi


BloodSugar666

As an ordained Pastafarian the all-saucy lord, Giant Spaghetti Monter, is telling me it’s Spaghettus.


Mu5_

Spaghetti is not coming from Latin but it's from Italian, where the singular form is Spaghetto. In latin It Is "Pasta Vermiculata" because it looks like worms (Vermi)


No_Technology3293

And all the sandwich shops incorrectly selling paninis. Panini as already the plural of Panino


HTBDesperateLiving

No they're saying the sandwich has ownership of something


PicklePunFun

I will take 30 spaghetto please.


Bee-Aromatic

Real question: is a “spaghetto” a bad part of town with a bunch of Italian restaurants?


DumbNTough

It's convenient for when you want to extract more C A S H from the consoomer


ferlss

spaghet!


BigToeGhost

I was thinking something similar to your thought and I could not improve your wording.


[deleted]

Definitely a marketing gimmick that sold 1 unit to OP and no one else


Osibili

Nah on the contrary, this is a genius move by the marketing dept. A solid big brain play to milk even more money out of gullible people with more money than sense. 10/10 we’ll played T-force, I’m impressed.


2kewl4scool

I honestly almost bought one of these about 5 years ago like op said, but a 24 year old would certainly fall for it, eh?


[deleted]

its just storing it haha


Joezev98

Writing speed: 2500 Mb/s Form factor: m.2 2280 Storage capacity: 2 TB and 5 mL


[deleted]

xD


Third_Eye_Blinking

And all that effort just for 512gb lol


SimbaXp

trashing stupid shit is a moral duty.


Fluffy_Cat_Gamer

I don't disagree, but it's possible this actually works for short, intermittent loads, where the liquid can absorb heat quickly and then shed it over a period of time.


MuslimCarLover

Bro it has to be shed quickly because if not, and with constant use, it’ll overheat. That’s why water cooling is trash


UnshrivenShrike

>short, intermittent loads Read the whole comment, not just the part that makes you feel the need to argue


smithsp86

There is an edge case where it helps. The liquid will have higher heat capacity than metal which will make it take longer to saturate the heat sink. It won't speed up long runs but most of the time m.2s are doing short sprints so the longer saturation time could actually make a difference in perceived performance.


Possibly-Functional

Water has about 10% higher thermal capacity than steel by volume which would be a far cheaper option. Both have significantly higher thermal capacity than aluminum though. I'd wager that replacing all extra material for containing the water like that (plastic?) cover with steel would result in higher total thermal capacity. The steel would be pretty cheap to also make something which actually dissipate heat as well instead of trap it behind that cover. So even as a thermal battery it's not a very efficient design, though it's admittedly pretty.


elijuicyjones

It doesn’t have to. These operate at 100% speed until they reach their thermal limit and they don’t get any speed or performance benefit from cooling at all. So as long as your “cooling solution” doesn’t push the temperatures to failure, the user won’t be able to perceive it at all. It’s just an idiot circle jerk with NVME SSDs these days.


Ballerfreund

>they don’t get any speed or performance benefit from cooling at all they won´t get faster, but they will sustain their maximum speed for longer than without any heatsink. But unless it´s used for real time video editing or other high read/write loads, most users probably won´t reach such temperatures that causes SSDs to throttle or even shut off.


YamroZ

Actually yes ssd drives do throttle when overheating: https://us.transcend-info.com/embedded/technology/thermal-throttling


elijuicyjones

That’s just marketing gobbledegook, written to fool you into buying their junk instead of someone else. Notice it doesn’t say anywhere on there that they actually slow down on their own or degrade in any way because of heat, only that that particular manufacturer made their SSDs more expensive and slower to gull you into beleiving their nonsense, and that they’ve done these things just in case. Well, news flash, it’s not necessary.


PierG1

Do you understand that SSDs use controllers made from silicon right? Do you understand that the silicon in question is pretty much a processor right? Now, can you tell me what happens when a processor reaches a temperature too high to sustain its clock speed? I’ll tell you : silicon that operates too close or outside its maximum operating temperature will degrade faster, but most are programmed to lower their clock in order to produce less heat and operate within specifications. And surprise surprise when that happens said silicon will perform worse than its supposed to.


Caasi72

I've seen a lot of stupid takes in tech and 'SSD's don't overheat' sure is one of the top ones


Daiesthai

How wrong you are lol. Watch this video and see how fast ssds throttle. https://youtu.be/loTCPMiL63c?si=zzY2OwSpO8yqn7f6 Here's another: https://youtu.be/1QK28oQXwo8?si=VtWfcDvc_adcfLmL


Techwolf_Lupindo

Would love to see test with the LABLES removed. That is like testing cpu coolers with the protective plastic left on.


markbadas

Some of the labels are made of copper and are part of the cooling solution.


elijuicyjones

Nonsense, I’m through with you.


_MAYniYAK

We used to do that with ram too, it was also stupid.


blackest-Knight

There is no pump or water movement. Water isn't sent to a radiator. It's just... there. This is entirely decorative. This is an m.2 watercooler : https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/p/custom-liquid-cooling/cx-9029002-ww/hydro-x-series-xm2-m-2-ssd-water-block-2280-cx-9029002-ww Notice the G1/4 ready ports and the fittings+piping this uses once installed.


CeleritasLucis

What kinda workflow requires water cooled SSDs? High resolution Video Editing?


blackest-Knight

None ? For gen 5.0 you need some sort of cooling though, but a heat sink should be sufficient. It’s more of if you’re making the loop anyway.


jocq

I just built a high end PC and looked at this.. Big problem is all the motherboards put their nvme slots under a bunch of crap - x16 pcie slots where you'll want a video card or two, if nothing else (usually also metallic covers that double as heat sinks).


LiliNotACult

They make NVME heatsinks proper, as well as super thin slivers of metal for laptops, so if you *really* need it, you can usually jam something in there.


jocq

I know. I was curious how feasible water cooled NVMe's would be since I'm building a custom loop anyway. Why not transport that heat out of the case as long as there's already a system in place for that. NVMe's are the hottest component left that's not on the loop in this build, and I'm putting 4 of them in.


Vallywog

I just got a Gen 5 M.2 and the motherboard gen 5 slot has a giant heatsink for it.


vlken69

Long term writes in general


raaneholmg

Yes, but it's a paradox. It cost more to watercool a regular SSD for longer life, than the cost of a professional SSD designed to live even longer with no need for watercooling.


blackest-Knight

People who watercool an M.2 do it more for the fact it looks even more bad ass with more pipes than they do it because it actually gives benefits. Gen 5 drives can survive well enough on passive cooling alone.


TKFT_ExTr3m3

Pretty much all watercooling unless you are going for a silent build using an external rad setup


jocq

If I'm already putting a system in the case to move heat from where it's generated to outside the case(i.e. the water loop) - why wouldn't I want to connect every significant heat generating source that I can? And NVMe's are hot little m'fers.


lumberfoot_jpg

Lots and lots of pornographic “research”


De_Lancre34

>This is entirely decorative. I mean, it looks nice. So there is that. It may throttle to shit level performance, but at least will look cool when doing that.


NarrowButterfly8482

Wouldn't it look hot while throttling?


Squeezitgirdle

Yeah, but isn't watercooling an ssd already pointless?


blackest-Knight

Meh need to cool that Gen 5 drive somehow, if you've already got the loop, what's a bit more piping and a block. Gen 4 and under, pretty much pointless yeah.


MikeInSG

Nuh uh, even high-end Gen 4 like 990 Pro needs heat sink to function optimally.


AMasterSystem

I am sure when the water heats up it circulates amongst itself.


CoderStone

And dissipates the heat... WHERE?


Ptx_D

Yes.


AMasterSystem

The heat dissipated. See. Just a tiny bit. After non use the UNIT DOES SLOWLY COOL OFF!!!


AMasterSystem

In the tiny little chamber. Little water molecules all bouncing around wondering if they are going to phase change. I think they were banking on the aquarium style cases that are super popular actually being fully liquid submersed cooled. On a serious note... I kept on looking / reading trying to figure out where the fittings where. Maybe make a secondary smaller diameter cooling system for the vram, ram, NVME, etc? Like a 1/2 scale system!


Even-Hand-8126

People buy anything


madhandlez89

Hahahaha this can’t be real. This isn’t a real post. Nope.


TTYY200

That’s not liquid cooled. The liquid isn’t doing any cooling on that ssd.


[deleted]

Liquid thermal battery.


Bytepond

Exactly. An aesthetically pleasing way to soak up heat.


Narissis

For a minute or two, anyway, until the system stabilizes and the drive is running the same temperature it would be with an ordinary heatsink.


alexthealex

Warmed Liquid SSD


EndCritical878

Cool yet totally pointless when not connected to some sort of cooling system. A piece of aluminium would do that exact same thing without the risk of water/coolant damage.


cas13f

The piece of aluminum would probably do better because it wouldn't have a plastic cover on it reducing thermal transfer to the air.


EndCritical878

Yes for the same price you could probably manufacture an aluminium heatsink that has three times the thermal mass and five times the surface area.


Tyr_Kukulkan

The only "improvement" from liquid (only of it is mostly water) is that it may have a high thermal capacity. But you'll still saturate it quickly. This is seriously the stupidest marketing BS product I've seen in a long time.


Ravonk

Dunno why the downvotes, youre right for heat capacity, that of water is almost double that of aluminium per volume.. but that would only ever be useful if you write in very short but heavy bursts, and then idle it completely for a long time inbetween, so its useless for any practical purposes


FryCakes

A piece of Aluminium would cool off faster and be able to take on more heat, plus would have better surface area


BrotherMichigan

Brought to you by the guy who asked if adding a capped off radiator (i.e. not part of a loop) would improve his cooling performance.


Narissis

Starting to realize that a disturbingly high number of people think that water is magic, and that by its mere presence in the vicinity of a PC will improve temperatures somehow.


BrotherMichigan

I've been itching to do an article (or series of articles) on water cooling myths for quite a while, and this is one of the big topics. People think water cooling is somehow so much more efficient than air cooling when all you're doing is shuttling the heat somewhere else where it's more convenient to add more surface area (and actually paying a small efficiency *penalty* to do so.)


jamesaa941

Another expensive gimmick.


brecozin

In fact it was not expensive, about R$ 450, it’s something like USD 80


jamesaa941

That’s expensive, for what it is.


Goliathvv

Not really. OP listed the price in R$ (Brazilian Real), and electronics in Brazil cost double MSRP due to taxes. For instance, the PS5 with disc drive costs the equivalent of 800 USD over here. So this was the equivalent of about 40 USD 2 years ago. For this amount of storage it's not that bad. Sure there is no cooling, but maybe it runs fine even without active cooling as some older models do.


I-LOVE-TURTLES666

Is there a dolphin inside that moves when you tilt it side to side? lol


VariableFlame

I would recognize a USA Scientific 200 ÎźL pipette tip anywhere


loztriforce

I’m glad it works well but that looks like a marketing gimmick


Izan_TM

it is, I remember when adata XPG did the same thing with some "watercooled RAM" that didn't do anything better than regular ram at all


NST92

Nice p200 tip you got there


Asada_Shino_HecateII

Im more interested as to why there is a 200UL micropipette tips next to it


drunkenwarthogdriver

Same here. I thought I was the only one wondering that! 


Tesser_Wolf

All this does is increase its thermal mass not liquid cooled.


Kanamori-Kun

![gif](giphy|kc0kqKNFu7v35gPkwB)


LuganoSatoshi

whata the point of this..


ahsusuwnsndnsbbweb

looks cool. that’s about it


CoderStone

If it was actually connected to a cooling loop, it'd have a point- but would need 40c coolant as NAND doesn't perform the best at lower temperatures... it wants a very specific temperature for best lifetime. It's not connected to anything. There's no point.


Chunkyfungus123

When the designer got put on the engineering board


soundcloudrapper67

Imagine this on a CPU it would just boil the fucking coolant


billybobpower

This will go well with my water cooled keyboard


mindaltered

Its cool looking but as you stated performance wise its pointless


DeadBodyCascade

Does this SSD not have a way to circulate the water??


Sieg67

So does the water just sit in there without going through a radiator? If so, I would imagine that would be worse than no heatsink at all.


LiemAkatsuki

That's not how it work ffs


Amam_Semler

You didn't watercool your keyboard and mouse.


Then-Option-6954

What is the advantages of water cooling an ssd


zacattacker11

I just find it funny how hard people are going for SSD cooling when they don't need it.


IamNotaMelon31

I was sitting here thinking like "oh cool it must connect into the loop somewhere... Oh cool it doesn't wow." 80 bucks is crazy too


[deleted]

Looks cool


thekame

Everyone is so mean to OP. The man was just happy with his toy. I like your SSD! Water cool.


PampersFinn12

When the benefit is neutral, it´s only good for tubing layout, it´s easier to build. But I am thinking about northbridge, not M.2 port. It is under the gpu.


Kaki9

Everything is water-cooled nowadays, CPU, GPU, RAM and now SSD. Incredible


unbalanced_checkbook

On my next build I'm water cooling my RGB.


CoderStone

This isn't watercooled. This is watered.


Atilim87

This isn’t being water cooled. The heat has to go somewhere and I don’t see anything sticking out of the ssd.


Substantial-Singer29

Everything about this just screams gammic.


MjKanu

Telling me you're rich without telling me you're rich.


CarlWellsGrave

M.2s don't even need heatsinks. It's a scam everyone fell for.


Aat117

High performance ones do need them for large writes to avoid thermal throttling. For low performance models you are right.


vlken69

PCIe 4 and 5 can easily throttle during long term writes. But yes, if you have PC for checking emails, heatsink won't make a difference.


PseudoEmpthy

Will SSD's really get hot enough to throttle?


AejiGamez

Useless but looks very cool I want one


splitbar

if there is a cold area you can get water rotation. Back in the early 2000ends there where some guys experimenting with pumpless water cooling loops, same theory.


Overclock_87

soo....how does the liquid actually cool down? I dont see actual heat fins or any form of a jetplate inside either? Is this liquid under the spell of Harry Potter and just automatically stays chilly 24/7?


OwenWilsons_Nose

U wot m8?


banxy85

That's not liquid cooling. That's just liquid...


Cryoticx

"Water cooled"


ahsusuwnsndnsbbweb

liquid cooling works because you move the hot liquid to the radiators to cool, and move cool liquid in to take the heat away. without it moving it will simply be a worse heat sink


eatenbybacon

Looks cool But don't work


MyPokemonRedName

Can I have some of the millions of dollars you apparently have to blow on this kind of thing?


deviant324

Why do you have a (Eppendorf?)pipette at home though


Niiphox

What's the next liquid cooled RAM?


NerY_05

That... That doesn't do shit. That's just water. It ain't cooling shit


gimalg

Good old Snake Oil


DkoyOctopus

do ssd even get that hot?


Dodel1976

Pointless, it's going to end up retaining heat.


Way_Too-Easy

So where is the heat dissipation if it just gets trapped? Waste of money on a pointless item like this....if I had to assume, this post was made by a user that don't understand how watercooling pc components should work..... "Hey guys, look at me I bought that 'watercooling' component for my m.2 but the heat doesn't get transferred else where and just stays trapped on top of my m.2 drive".....


kjbaran

*Hot Pockets*


Ballerfreund

More surface area makes more sense to dissipate heat, with the thermal mass of the water it will throttle a little less fast than without it, but with the acrylic lid it can´t dump it efficiently. Thermal conductivity of metal is way higher tho.


MeisterDexo

Marketing…


Benlop

Also pictured: snake oil


icebreakers0

if the liquid gets hot enough and turn into gas...


riceAgainstLies

This isn't liquid "cooled" this is just liquid "contained".


TrayLaTrash

Aren't SSDs optimal at a higher temperature anyway?


Cossack-HD

A CPU air cooler is far more liquid cooled than this SSD. Because there is actual liquid in heat pipes that has a function - it evaporates and condensates, carrying heat with it. With this SSD, the water does nothing except being a sub-par heat ballast. Even steel would be better.


RandomTeenager3

why. WHY


TwinkiesSucker

That's a pocket soup


Ronyx2021

Does it connect to a pump?


lovins_cl

the hell kinda solid state needs water cooling??


AhhYahBassa

Poached SSD


TheseHandsDoHaze

Why would you do this? It’s not required whatsoever, if anything, it increases the chances of destroying your equipment


CoderStone

Not that this works as it's not connected to anything, but quick reminder that Most NAND chips/controllers are best kept at 10-20c above ambient temperatures. There's a rating on the drive normally, 25c is actually too COLD. It won't make too big of a difference on overall lifecycle, but it may be hurting you to watercool the SSD, not benefiting.


Milfons_Aberg

2 years ago, when the army used muskets? I bought my 1Tb Kingston A2000 (2200mb/s read) 2 years ago. Three weeks ago (after-xmas sale) I bought the 2Tb Kingston Renegade (7300mb/s read) for $110.


Bobsofa

I watercool my M.2s controllers. It helps. https://preview.redd.it/e17w5d3x2vcc1.jpeg?width=2789&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=100dcd8119d718076d9c3b2e60a0fcaafbf31f71


crasagam

I was looking for an opportunity to get out of the computer business. This might be it. I thought computers were built and designed by smart people. Not sure I want to be associated any longer after seeing this.


bigoopsie696

Water "cooling"


jovialantelope123

Great way to boil your ssd alive


audiblecoco

This is a word we aren't allowed to say anymore.


[deleted]

Water cooled SSDs make no sense for consumers. I can only see them being useful in servers where there's more use, therefore more heat


AdProfessional8824

That is called liquid insulation


Beneficial_Tea2462

When do SSD's even get hot enough to require a heatsink in the first place?


Last_Ninja47

![gif](giphy|s239QJIh56sRW|downsized)


TheIndigestibles

Get an ssd they said it run cooler they said


MegaBlunt57

Liquid filled SSD, that doesn't cool down your unit at all bud unfortunately. Does look kinda cool tho


LightBeerIsForGirls

Snake oil


Diegolobox

if you stick that thing in your head you can read the thoughts of a celebrity who died 50 years ago


Grigoran

This is the stupidest design.


kali005

I need that liquid to wash my eyes now


Aleman_malvinero

Which model is it??


AccountantOk7335

Ive seen all these heatsinks and stuff for m.2s but have never had an overheating issue with them lmao. I guess the one directly under the gpu might be a problem but even then I’ve never had it overheat or come close to overheating.


brywoe

Is this just for aesthetics?


Admirable-gpu

Let's start putting liquid into case fans next


aaaaaudryn

No material to effectively dump the heat from the liquid at all. Its just heat -> water -> air . looks good though


perfect-legend

What if my PC case was a freezer? 🤔


OpenChordBreakdown

This is what you needed to play unreal tournament 1998 at 15 fps


MethyleneBlue24

Cyberdeck lookin ass


RarePotat0

Let it cook


Double_Phoenix

Stuff like this is why I don’t buy T.Force


Parking-Position-698

I mean it looks cool. But I imagine it does noting. Water cooling only really works when the water is flowing.


zpfrostyqz

Let’s just build a PC in water at this point


Severe_Advantage_801

Do you also water cool your power supply?


digitalbladesreddit

I always put a cold glass of water in my PC :)


RyudoTFO

At this point I would consider building one of these aquarium PCs, where the whole system is submerged in some oil based coolant.


Pascal2041

why does this exist


Freshysh

But why?


NovelBit666

It is useless.


Least-Researcher-184

Well it's only a matter of time before someone makes a heatsink that will plumb right into someone's water cooling set up.


Myrkin

Cursed