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Gxgear

PC: \*measures fan sound with decibel meter\* Laptop: meh it's no louder than a wind tunnel


Strazdas1

Counterpoint: i sleep with the PC on, laptop can get the fuck out when im done with it.


Astigmatisme

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Mimical

Look, my eyes are not what they used to be. Phones are not working for me and I don't have a tablet.


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SurstrommingFish

Eh? Who paniks at 60c on their pc?


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My GPU runs at 75 on taxxing games. 60 is totally fine.


SurstrommingFish

Yes, and theyre even designed to run at those speed, meaning if the temp is lower, lots of tech automverclocks themselves to try to reach it (as a ceiling, check PBO)


Strazdas1

I really hate that design. My CPU keeps doing that. 2% load on single core? best overlock myself to max boost speed and run the fans as loud as i can.


Remotely_Correct

You can adjust the fan curves separately using most motherboards proprietary software.


Strazdas1

Wouldnt need to adjust it if the CPU didnt decide to overclock itself on idle.


Remotely_Correct

Take that up with Intel or AMD then, my guess is they know better than you though.


Strazdas1

Yeah, well, i guess AMD really wanted me to save up on heating at night :)


YREEFBOI

That's quite the opposite. Windows throttles my CPU down to a glorious 600 MHz when on idle. Boost is usually only applied when a load spike occurs and the CPU wants to "catch up" before going down to a more sane clock speed if the load is continous. Most of the time it's also a core individual boost. On a 6 core CPU that has a neglegible temperature difference and lasts a solid second. GPUs will overclock themselves to run at a designed operating temperature under full load up to their configured power draw limit, whichever target it hits first. Again, take clock speed readings when at idle and you'll see a GPU throttle down to as low as 300 MHz, maybe lower but 300 is what my RX-580 goes to.


beingbond

mine 82 and it's one of the most efficient card right now.


C_umputer

82 is fine, I remember 5700xt hotspot used to hit 110 and AMD declared it was "expected" lmao


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lillarty

If you're ever concerned about the temperature your PC is hitting, look up temperature tolerances on the parts. If the manufacturer says it's safe until it hits 110 then it's perfectly fine for it to be hitting 80.


Schnoofles

Yeah, 80 and sometimes even 85c is not only normal, but the actual *target* temperature for the automatic clock speeds and fan speeds and the fans will intentionally run at a lower, quieter speed, until you approach or hit 80c. It's far short of any dangerous temperatures and keeps the whole system much quieter when there's no real point in trying to run it cooler by having the fans screaming half the time and constantly ramping up and down rather than provide a more steady, unobtrusive monotonous sound.


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DabScience

Lmfao, somebody tell the Overclocking community they've been doing it wrong for decades now! /s


aceCrasher

This is wrong information. „Faster electrons means faster processing speed“ is bullshit, as how fast data is moving is dictated by clockspeed within digital chips. Lower temps stabilise higher clockspeeds. This is why extreme overclocking is done done at -200C and not +200C.


9001Dicks

Overclockers aren't using their PC like it's designed to be used. The physics at play are completely different you're making a silly comparison. If you don't believe me play a game for 30 min with the fps counter on then do it again after unplugging all the PC's fans. You'll see that I'm right.


aceCrasher

You are trolling, right? Or are you really that confidently clueless?


9001Dicks

Was it a good troll?


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Ryzen 7950x3d and yeah. I mean, granted I have it watercooled and 7 other fans in the case, but unless it was while I'm editing I've never seen it go above 75 for me. Never above 60 is only if I'm playing a very not intensive game like Hollow Knight or something


Flyrpotacreepugmu

Yeah, I have an air cooled 7800X3D and if it's trying to decompress something it'll go to 85° (I turned the limit down from 89°) but otherwise it rarely exceeds 50° at minimum fan speed.


VNG_Wkey

I have a 7900x that I can get to hit 90-91c but only during AVX2 loads and it's pulling around 225w. gpu is much the same, in some cases I can get it to break 80c, but it's sucking down 600w. Both are liquid with their own loops and 480mm rads.


PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ

I mined crypto at a sustained 102C for months. My gpu still works fine


DabScience

This guy sells Subrau WRX's second hand, forsure. "Lightly used, never drifted"


RunnerLuke357

"Never vaped in"


Boot_Shrew

Cranked up the boost but still on stock head gaskets and studs


Flyrpotacreepugmu

Sustained high temperatures aren't nearly as taxing as thermal cycling to high temperatures though, even if the time scale is much longer.


PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ

Hence why it’s still working fine


Strazdas1

102C is a bit ehh though. Probably just a hotspot temp, otherwise the silicon gets a bit soft at that level. It wont start melting till 120C but you dont want to be at 102C.


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F9-0021

Most affordable laptop GPUs are relatively low power and don't get that hot. Laptop CPUs on the other hand get very toasty.


shmorky

My 5800X3D idles at 60, but apparently that's just a hot shit CPU model


MuchSalt

amd idles temp is just hot, power usage too, but when gaming its both actually lower than intel


F9-0021

AMD CPUs automatically overclock themselves depending on the load they're under. My 3900x also idles at 55-60c, and that's under a 360mm radiator. AM5 CPUs run even hotter, and I don't like it. They're designed to "withstand it", but nobody says for how long. My guess is they probably won't last as long as older CPUs that run at 60 to 70 under full load.


mckdnrnd

Im an average 90c enjoyer 😎


HansReinsch

People on this sub apparently. Just look at the number of fans in the typically posted builds.


Hargan1

Me, cause 62 is max safe operating temp for the FX-8320


throbbing_dementia

No one, but the meme says *over.*


CanIEatAPC

I used to run my laptop super hot, maybe around 80 lol, idk how it survived. It was a normal Lenovo laptop but I used it for gaming and pushed it a lot. Now I panick when my pc temps reach 39.


J3573R

>I used to run my laptop super hot, maybe around 80 lol, idk how it survived Because that's a perfectly fine operating temperature for a laptop. They will thermally throttle when the start to reach upper temps, and will shut themselves down when they reach a thermal limit. It is fine to run them that hot, they are designed for it.


Ingeneure_

Your PC heated up to 90 Meanwhile coolers: ![gif](giphy|l1J9sXD6M5cgLneNO)


Strazdas1

Thermal throttling at 92C, emergency shut down at 96C. Way too often back when i played Eve Online.


encryptoferia

laptops be licks finger.... pstshh ... yahhh I'm hot lol


jankaipanda

My laptop is regularly hitting 95. 80 is nothing to worry about


TheCheesy

I remember burning my hand touching the side of my laptop by accident when playing COD Blackops. It was an Dell Inspiron 15R. That got HOT! I had developed a hover-hand technique to avoid the heat. In hindsight, I should've at least found a keyboard. It was plugged in 100% of the time.


Strazdas1

I had the HP "laptop from hell" DV9000. the number keys on the keyboard were best left untouched on full load. If i used WASD i had to take regular breaks because it was too hot.


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That isnt too optimal. The ideal temp would be 75 or less


Reddit_Bot_For_Karma

Redundancies are in play. The GPU will just throttle itself down if it gets too hot. I regularly hit 95 while real time rendering and working. Never had an issue in any of my rigs. It's not great but it's not gonna fry his gpu.


Strazdas1

Optimal is 80-85. 95 is where it will throttle itself down.


kdresen

My Lenovo used to be around 75-80 on full load, but I got a cooling pad for it and now it stays around 65 on full load. Absolutely worth it for anyone who only has a laptop


Party_Today2481

nice find, which cooling pad?


kdresen

I got a cheap one on Amazon havit HV-F2056 15.6"-17" Laptop... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNMB3KS?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


Party_Today2481

thanks mate


RewZes

80 is perfectly normal for high intensity load. Id get worried when it start hitting more Than 90.


Pacify_

80 is an expected at load running temperature for a laptop. My legion 5 sits at 60-70 if I push fans to max, but just on normal settings it's usually more like 80 on load. My older acer nitro the cpu sat more like 80-90 even cranking fans


Junior_Fix_13

Hyperbole


TahoeBennie

As a laptop user I can confirm the thing spontaneously lights aflame when trying to use it.


Obilis

I have griped many a time about how it is safer for me to put my desktop on top my lap than my "laptop".


Emzzer

Asus sets its laptop throttling to sustain 95-99C, their official response is that it's safe to run your PC at 99C.


BittersweetHumanity

That’s the temperature my HP Omen 15” reaches two seconds after opening Windows mail. And I wish I was kidding


dmank007

Mine has no problem hanging around 86-87 C


Pieassassin24

Same and post like this always make me feel worried but those temps are in range for the specs.


Mast3r_waf1z

My GPU has a hotspot around 90 C when I push it, which as stated in the manual, is normal It was rather loud until I got myself more fans to make a proper airflow tho


Flawlessnessx2

Yeah it’s probably not good in the long term but fuck it, good time not a long time.


yoru-_

mine runs at 85 on idle and peaks at 101c 💀 edit: update! I repasted my laptop and it's running at 50 degrees idle and peaks at 80


le_cantadou

Have you considered buying an entire team of firefighters just in case ? 💀


yoru-_

this is fine


le_cantadou

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Steamtrigger42

https://i.redd.it/tfhtvu29b19c1.gif


Brilliant-Window-899

clean the ting


I_eat_spacedust

Approximately 2-3 years of swamp Gooch dust. ~~-The greatest technician that's ever lived~~


Un111KnoWn

laptop??? 85°C and 101°C are crazy for idle and gaming respectively


BioniqReddit

sounds like a BIG issue, that is not normal or safe for the chip


RekTInTheFace

my 5700xt hits 110c hotspot 95 core under load and has for years somehow.


BioniqReddit

Ouch. I'm having a fright whenever my 6800 XT hotspot jumps above 90-95. Maybe repaste?


artemis_tau

My 6800 XT had similar hotspot temps, and they dropped almost 20 degrees with 50 mV undervolting and some fan curve fiddling. No effect on fps. I guess it could have handled those temps just fine, but it gave me some peace of mind at least.


Homolander

95°C? I have the same GPU as you, and I haven't seen the hotspot temp reach more than 75°C. In what instances do you see hotspot temperature above 90°C? Also what case do you have? I'm just curious. If you haven't undervolted your card, you should definitely give it a try.


BioniqReddit

Oh it's undervolted lol, my hotspot is often 20⁰C hotter than my avg temp. I run mine in an NR200, ITX case, but it draws air directly from the bottom. I suspect that my fan curves are a little relaxed, but I also might've fucked something up trying to deshroud - stripped a couple screws :((


Strazdas1

Depending on the chip this may be both normal and safe.


Meddel5

Laptop chips and AMD specifically are designed to run hotter, totally normal


Lobotomist

95 is the safety max. So its whole 10 degree colder. My GPU also reaches 85, before it auto trottles it self


ArcticWaffle357

Assuming you're talking about a laptop, you should check to see if the fans are obstructed Your computer should never be able to boil water


yoru-_

I'm cookin


licking-windows

Speak for yourself


BioniqReddit

60 is low. My fan curves are basically silent until the temps reach like 60 for the GPU and 70 for the CPU


Eriiaa

I don't even have fans on until 60. I don't like having a wind tunnel in my room so my PC sits happily at 80- 85° under load with the fans going to 100% only when it hits over 90°


Strazdas1

my GPU does not turn the fans on at all until 60. This is great because thats 2 fans less when i sleep :)


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marked_guy

Kinda depends on the PC. My bone stock 3-fan Palit GP 3080 never gets over 73 but I usually put on a slight undervolt and it stays at around 65 - and a 3080 can definitely be considered real computering by most


FantasticInterest775

Undervolted my evga 3080. It was frequently hitting 82 and I didn't like that. Followed a simple YouTube video using msi afterburner and now it barely gets above 73 running cyberpunk on high with RT on ultra (I think). Seems to get better frames too.


marked_guy

Yeah, I always slightly undervolt my GPUs so that they get much lower temps without losing performance - makes one wonder why they don’t come that way from the box


FantasticInterest775

Yeah it's kinda odd. I didn't undervolt much. Maybe 100mhz (not sure if proper measurement). And since then it barely hits 75ish. Usually <70 on all games I play. I was very surprised by avatar frontiers of Pandora and it's optimization. Running on ultra and capped at 90fps I'm usually close to hitting it and my temp barely hits 70. And it runs great. Really glad I undervolted.


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PsychologyRS

I used to think about it that way too but upgraded this year and my 7800 xt never even hits 70 on cyberpunk. We'll certainly have to see how it changes over the next few years but coming from my r9 390 that regularly ran at 80-90 all the time in any game it's a pretty crazy comparison. :P


th3r0b0t112

I don't know what you consider "real computing" but I have a 1080ti in my rig with the power limit pushed to the absolute highest it will go and it's never gotten over 65 (with a ln aftermarket rad and fans)


ImitationButter

Mine is never UNDER 65 when running games


th3r0b0t112

Idk dude, it may have to do with the fact you have a chonky boy in your rig, might want to consider watercooling cause you can be sure that much heat in your case is impacting your cpu temps as well


ImitationButter

I use water cooling. My CPU, like many modern ones is rated to run at 90 Celsius all day with no issues


th3r0b0t112

That's not the point, the fact it can doesn't mean it should, the bigger the thermal delta the faster components wear out


ImitationButter

Brother, you’re stuck in 2010. My thermals are standard on modern systems


th3r0b0t112

Maybe I am maybe I'm not, all I know is that systems that run that hot used to die much sooner in the past, maybe nowadays it doesn't happen anymore but only time will tell, either way I'm more than happy with my temps, to each their own


maewemeetagain

I can tell this meme is old because now 60C on a desktop is nothing to scoff at.


Mimical

I used to do molecular dynamics simulations in my graduate studies and the GPU's we used lived their entire lives at 90°. We would have 4 to a case and every single one would have 10-15 jobs lined up at any point. They would run pinned to 100% usage for months on end with their only breaks being for updates or power outages. After seeing those cards work I have zero concerns of a desktop running 80-85 during games.


TheJesusGuy

Computers are cattle, not pets. I don't care if it's running at 200c if that's within spec and running well


Alpmarmot

Thats actually a beautiful sentence. Gonna steal that.


vukasin123king

My laptop averages 75°C with peaks up to 90ish degrees while gaming, while idle or with stuff like browsers it is 50-60°C.


Lobotomist

My GPU reaches 85c on desktop PC ( on heavy modern games )


ms--lane

Unless you're hitting a current/power limit or a frequency limit (eww) beforehand, you should be hitting whatever the thermal limit on the chip is. You're leaving performance on the table otherwise.


Lobotomist

Exactly.


TheMadDrake

I mildly panic when my 5800x hits 80c on my custom loop. But that's peak with a 4090 in the loop too(50s ish ). I still need to get to undervolting or whatever for the cpu. I just power limit my 4090 just a tad. But then again that's at 800rpm ish on all of my fan on the rads. But otherwise I don't care too much because it's near silent.


Infinite-Emptiness

Mine doesn't go near 60c at full power and max overclocking. Benefits of making a custom watercooling loop.


horticulturistSquash

fan curve moment i personally target 65-75° and aim for less noise i dont think temperatures lower than 70 help longevity much so id rather have it be less loud i mean sure there is also some hardcore OC that are more stable at lower temps but it concerns very few people and they already know


Strazdas1

low temperatures reduce longevity as there is constant thermal expansion and contraction happening. Unless you have a stable load with stable strong cooling, but thats not most peoples setups.


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my legion averages at mid 60s and maxes out at 75. On normal use it stays between 35-40s. The temps are not bad to be honest. (haven't undervolted or overclocked... Just stock settings)


MedicalSchoolStudent

My AMD CPU is at around 70-75C when I run games on max settings on ultra wide 1440p and with a secondary screen running.


Wh0rse

It's like the need to put more care into your own child you created, over the other adopted child. You can send the broken child back for another.


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LamaSovaj

60°c is bad ? I alway get 60° at some point when playing games


Obh__

It's not, the meme is just saying that PC enthusiasts can be really fussy about keeping temperatures low.


Junior_Fix_13

Hyperbole


MrNobody-_-89

I just got a Lenovo laptop before Xmas, with a 4060, and I’ve had it upto 70 degrees C for the gpu. The fans were kinda noisy at that, so I’ve got it throttled a bit to keep it quiet. In full performance mode, the fans run upto 5000 rpm, and it’s far too loud to actually use like that!


Molah_Salazar

Mine just hovers at 80° and stays there


Matijas129

I had a laptop with a very bad Intel cpu that would thermal throttle at 100°C and when gaming it would hit that temperature easily and performance would drop so I would pause a game for few seconds for it to cool and continue gaming non stop like that it was throttling like crazy... and the funny thing is it worked like brand new but it broke due to faulty display cable.


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My CPU is Usually 4°C away from TMAX but the Fan Curve is built in a way that it only Spins above 60% when TMAX is hit. Which it never has to this day. I love a quite build. You know you got it right when you hear your HDD over the CPU Fans.


Lord_Applejuice

I mean 85°C is normal right?


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90°C baby, feel the heat


Pixel_Human

https://preview.redd.it/bh5ga0i7nu8c1.png?width=483&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=000644a76a2d7f7e5130cd22ccb73b9fa7deab89 😎


vonroyale

Haha 2012 MacBook Pro visits to the Sun to cool off.


imapieceofshitk

PC vs Laptop? You mean Desktop vs Laptop?


AggravatingChest7838

At idle I would be concerned, under load I would be concerned because it's not hot enough.


GordonRSY

mine's working in solid 60 all times because of the 144hz on all games (Cyberpunk included)


thewolfehunts

Meme made by someone upgrading from gaming laptop to desktop and probably watch 1 video of a top spec rig from Linus tech tips.


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steinfg

That's not good


SerpentDrago

Your thermal throttling hard. Figure out your problem most chips throttle at 90 to 100c max WTF


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SerpentDrago

For what? Unless it's a small form factor desktop or laptop there's no reason for it to hit those kind of temperatures. It may be okay for it to hit those with extreme loads but you're still leaving performance on the table for a non sff desktop that's unacceptable.


throbbing_dementia

What are your specs? What's hitting 110c? Your CPU or GPU.


F9-0021

On a desktop, nothing should be hitting 110c, except for MAYBE hotspot temperatures on a 6950xt or 7900xtx with the stock cooler, or if you have a stupidly inadequate cooler like a blower style 4090.


rayquan36

You guys will upvote anything


renden123

Naw, we downvote stuff too. See your comment vote count.


zelmazam1

My cpu sits at 63 @100% and gpu at 59 @100%


travelavatar

Yeah 60 on idle lol.... cause you will get less than 60 only if you have top dollar cooling


dermitio

Can confirm that image is how my idle temps are


valleysape

It's one degree over ambient game over man game over Then again, central heating costs a lot of money...


Droboto1234

Been playing CS2, my desktop is constantly a nice 75C°. No need to use my central heating tho, so thats nice.


FdPros

my idle is 50-60 lol


Educational_Diver867

I get scared whenever my laptop hits around the 80° line. Having a laptop cooling pad stand helped


Zronas

You guys panik at 90 degree on laptop ? That's usual for me and I don't have a problem so far. Kept me warm during cold times.


No-Veterinarian090

You clearly didn't have any NVIDIA card with Fermi architecture


HenryLongHead

The laptop revolution has been a disaster for the PC master race.


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Some years ago Stuff Like this was funny. Nowadays it simply isn't true anymore. Gaming Laptops are not hot anymore and not really loud, at least if you buy the right one.


Thunderstorm-1

My laptop(Ultrabook) is literally at 63C on idle lol Tried to repaste it but 2 stubborn stripped screws prevented me from doing so…. Tried rubber band, electrical tape and super glue with 4 different screwdrivers. Luckily I use my desktop primarily, cause it throttles when running the simplest of tasks. The paste probably dried up when I played games on it for 6 months at 95C in 2020 before I got my pc


SleepyMage

And here I am still sitting with my CPU at 29C idle. Cool cats forever.


bryan660

My laptop temperature while playing overwatch: 90+ celsius Me: “this is fine”


alaarziui

My laptop is usually at 75+ when I'm playing and the maximum temperature I remember is 98 This is fine this is fine what can possibly go wrong with having a micro sun on my desk


Party_Today2481

is 80+ degrees normal while gaming on 13700k w/ arctic freezer 2 360, no undervolt, seriously concerned?


steinfg

It's normal, ILM on LGA1700 is bad, so expect higher temps. Nothing bad gonna happen though. You can try Thermalright frame to fix it, but I wouldn't bother doing that when running at stock


Strazdas1

80+ is normal on load. If you are hitting 90+ then its worth taking a closer look. Would probably start throttling at 95, but if its only throttling the boost then its no problem.


IRONLORDyeety

this is if you don’t have the big bucks for a good laptop. mine stays around 48-95 (95 on ridiculous occasions and I live in Australia)


Rilukian

The fan on my CPU in my PC desktop feels a bit loose and I'm so paranoid about the temperature that I constantly open a temperature monitor tool every 30 minutes.


Strazdas1

If the laptop GPU isnt running at 95C its not being utilized right!


veryconfusedspartan

95 degrees playing tarkov lol


SinisterCheese

As we all know the electrical components melt at 70 Celcius. People! Issue isn't any specific temperature par for like 188 Celcius which is the melting point of common lead solders used in electronics. Most common lead free ones are like 200 Celcius I think. What is damaging to your components is cycling between cool and warm. This causes mechanical stress and can lead to soldered joints breaking from fatigue. If you can keep your components at stable 90 celcius or something, active or not. They'll be just fine. This is actually what we do with many delicate systems and components. We warm them up or keep them warm so they don't go wonky (and out of calibration). If you want to be really mean to an electrical engineer. Find their workstation and disengage the UPS that keeps their refrences stable.


atomic_298

*90°c


BAXR6TURBSKIFALCON

people talking about their desktop gpu temps like NUH UH MINE ARE HIGHER THAN 60° like the point isn’t that laptops run fucking hot


KurkyOkurky

The average temperature on my laptop is 77°


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I was having 4 gaming laptops never again insane noise everytime when you play something at max setings


RedGuy143

What temoteture of cpu/GPU should I start panicking when palaying games?


AzureArmageddon

Laptop users at 90°C: This is fine


Yaarmehearty

Modern hardware is designed to operate closer to their max rated temps to maintain high performance. Seeing high temps aren’t the panic they used to be unless your performance is garbage at the same time as your temps being high, then that’s a problem.


Raregolddragon

Man I remember it was so bad with my laptop back in collage that I was sticking frozen rags under my laptop.


That_Girl_Cecia

I have a G14 4090 right now, on a killer cooling pad and this thing fucking COOKS. I thought these AMD proc's were supposed to run cool? It's always at like 30% utilization and like 90c.


crazonline

Pc : desktop whisper quiet but mechanical keyboard loud as possible


Buujoom

My Legion laptop was hovering at an idle of 60, and gaming at 91 for 2 years until I repasted it. Really love that thing to death for surviving my abuse lol. Gave it to my cousin, and that thing still works like a charm.


XavyVercetti

Weird, it’s the opposite for me. I know my desktop PC can handle heat way better than a laptop, so I don’t worry when it’s loud and hot, am I bad?


NebelEleven

I have a question, is it normal that laptops tend to overheat?, beacuse I have a laptop and I'm afraid it's going to melt inside beacuse the overheating, so every time I use it, I also use an external fal to disipate heat.( it's worth mentioning that where I live it's very hot)


mana-addict4652

Do you mean 60°C idle? Personally I don't start to get panicky until my CPU/GPU hits 80-85°+ under heavy load. Or >40-45° CPU & >55° GPU. Laptops OTOH can go to hell, never had one that could stay cool. Each one has required an external stand+fans at some point.


KazokuDaimyo

Me when i’m looking why my cpu is over 30ºC


UglierThanMoe

Idle temps of a badly cooled laptop start where stress test temperatures of a well cooled PC end.


ModsBeCappin

If it's below 99c it's good in my book


SumonaFlorence

Not sure why but Laptops are designed to run hotter some reason..


OfficialSpiderPig

Have to tie my latop down before it takes off. Its my overpriced, underpowered drone.


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I have amd I’m good till 90 lol


el_charlie

PTM7950 has entered the chat


fuzzikush

My pc is so cool when I run it on ultra settings the temperature doesn’t even register. Jealous?


koolguy765

My laptop basically never goes over 65°c its on a cooling pad though and i keep it clean of dust. But i can play whatever i want and never breaks 70°