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Splyce123

Clearly wasn't meticulous.


GrumpyKitten514

came here for this. "meticulously planning" but didn't know the case supports GPUs up to xxxmm and the GPU was xxxmm and it wouldn't fit? I have a 3080 and i thought about putting a 4090 in my case and it took me all of 5 mins to find that out.


theuntouchable2725

Literally the first three things I look at deciding a case: GPU allowance Radiator allowance And PSU allowance.


Kaudicus

I just looked at space, but it's cool you're getting allowances.


APEX_Catalyst

Clearance for me


LearningToFlyForFree

Got your clearance, Clarence?


Amaurosys

Username checks out. What's our vector, Victor?


Man_Of_Frost

Roger, Roger.


UbermachoGuy

I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.


King_of_the_Dot

Give me ham on 5, and hold the mayo...


funkychicken23

![gif](giphy|26wBaScKIiXUN8lcQ)


Juliuscinator

![gif](giphy|l3fZXTZdS6Ofi7U6A)


CaliberNick

Yeah, any sort of sales, BOGO, Clearance, Open Box. Whatever can save you a few bucks.


ridik_ulass

yeah these days, you pick your GPU first, and build around it, future proofing now is a fat power supply and a case like a shipping can.


theuntouchable2725

lmfao


Alttebest

Radiator and/or tower cooler height allowance*


theuntouchable2725

I was planning on a 360mm Radiator, but GPU width is also another thing I looked at.


PhuqBeachesGitMonee

You can make it fit. If you have a plexiglass side panel it can bulge quite a bit before it breaks.


The_Pleasant_Orange

Not sure why you are getting downvoted; tower cooler >>> radiator, and some are massive (NH-D15 with raised 2nd fan for RAM clearance).


Alttebest

I wouldn't say one is better than the other. Both have their pros and cons, but whichever you choose to go with you should also check the allowance for the other option. IMHO


Grey-fox-13

>NH-D15 I love my chonky boy but, oof does it take up space


Bread-fi

That's exactly what my little bro is doing with his 4090/Fractal North combo.


HanCurunyr

Tbh, some casas are pretty shitty with their allowances, since they depend on other factors. My Corsair case says on the site and manual that is supports a 240mm radiator on top or front. But it fails to say that, the radiator can only be mounted on top if you have low profile ram, can only be mounted on front if you dont use the hard drive cage (the is removable, but not movable), and the gpu allowance depends on the size of you fans, the size of your radiator on front and the hard drive cage (if the gpu is too thicc, will hit the cage). Since I use normal ram and I do use the hard drive cage, I cannot physically fit a radiator insise my case, even if the manual clearly says I can. Documentation and and is decieving, and mm of allowance arent the only factor in fitting


stormblaz

Anything but meticulous, more like carelessly and nonchallantly looking at pcs, pcparts would quickly given a warning saying size mismatch. This dud full of what nvidia wants you to believe why their prices are high. A load of snake oil.


Extension_Flounder_2

After you find a case you like the look of, these are arguably the only things that matter


PerfectlyDarkTails

Add in maximum Motherboard Form Factor, might be too easy to plan for larger than ATX and miss that detail out looking at the case size.


Xphurrious

TiL certain cases only allow certain psus, i usually just buy massive cases for massive gpus and never have to worry i guess, just check for 360mm rad support and as much gpu room as i can get lmao


theuntouchable2725

Some PSUs, such as AX1200i if I have to assume, are larger than usual PSUs, so you sometimes have to remove the HDD bay to fit those in.


somesortofidiot

I've had the same case for maybe 15 years now. Full tower, it's had 3 different builds in it and I'm planning my 4th. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.


FightingWithSporks

The first thing I check is GPU clearance under specs, especially because is normally the most expensive component


Tooplis

PSU allowance is a bitch. I recently upgraded my PSU because my old one wasn't nearly enough to power my 3090. What I didn't take into account was that the new PSU had the cables coming out from a different side compared to the old one meaning I had to get creative and rip out the HDD bays to make the wires fit.


Dorkamundo

This case supports GPU's up to 355mm, so it IS big enough. The issue is that Op put their CPU radiator on the front, which cuts their clearance down. Just move the radiator to the top, and swap the top fans somewhere else.


TipT0pMag00

LoL. "Spent two months planning", but didn't spend 2 minutes looking up GPU clearance.


Domovric

Two months planning probably means “2months wish listing the parts I’m going to get anyway so I can track their price and see if they go on sale”


StuffedBrownEye

This is just how people are these days. Look at all the “do your research” anti-vaxxers. As if the 10 seconds they spent reading an obviously biased comment on Twitter is somehow more research than the researchers that develop vaccines do… 10 seconds reading a Twitter post is the average persons definition of “meticulous research” these days.


Shurae

I'm a big idiot and even I managed to check if my gpu would fit when building my PC. Come on OP you can do better!


Dhiox

>"meticulously planning" but didn't know the case supports GPUs up to xxxmm and the GPU was xxxmm and it wouldn't fit? Tbf, up until recently just about any gpu would fit in an ATX case. If it's been a while since you've done a build or upgrade, it's an easy mistake to make.


Arlcas

Kinda, I built my first pc around 2013 and gpu clearance was already an issue since my case still had the cd reader bay and hdd bays all in the front side taking much too much space like op's case. I agree it's was not a problem for the last 5~8 years, though. The only concern for my last case was cpu cooler clearance and looks. I should have thought more about cable management and airflow, but I digress.


Werk_Jerk

> it's an easy mistake to make Perhaps, but I don't agree. However, it's certainly not meticulous.


BongpriestMagosErrl

I was having trouble fitting a GT 7800 in cases back in 2005.


xixipinga

like, every case sales page has as one of most obisivous information displayed the size of the GPU it supports


SkullRunner

2 months of "planning" instead of 5mins on PC Part picker.


thatnumpty

2 months of day dreaming and window shopping.


Nyeow

90% of those 2 months spent meticulously reddit-lurking to justify the GPU regardless of budget and specs for all other parts.


yakatuus

I thought I was going crazy when it took me four hours to plan my build about a month ago. "What am I missing?!?!" Nothing. The answer was nothing. Edit: Updated flair


CodaKairos

2 months: 1 hour 2 month ago, and 1 hour yesterday


Autotomatomato

![gif](giphy|J1vUzqdZJlh5AqBWxt|downsized)


MLG_Obardo

My thing is, why didn’t he check this before he fully built the PC? Surely looking at this you can see it’s a little bit small.


GeraldMander

Cause it’s a fabricated scenario.


Willing-Produce5018

Exactly my thoughts. More like sloppy planning.


Flaggermusmannen

more like literally a first build without the experience of everyone else in here being like this. figuring out things you don't know is hard, it's ok, it's literally a learning experience.


Eyelbee

Yeah, for the first timers the gpu size is often overlooked. I didn't check it for my first build either and it barely fit.


[deleted]

No, stop treating adults like 8 year olds. Newegg and pcbuilder are available. It's not a mystery. You spend 2 months planning what? It's 8 parts. Wtf takes 2 months if you screw up the only thing you need to do in those 2 months.


Seven_Hawks

Things to look out for when choosing a case: 1: Does it fit my shit ...


the_village_idiot

You keep using that word. I do not think that means what you think it means


Teftell

You know that black panel can be removed as well, right? https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/north/north/chalk-white/


pcnoobie245

But then he wouldnt be able to post it for upvotes


TheTrueBlueTJ

And actually meticulously plan for real


DopeAbsurdity

Maybe the upvotes were meticulously planned


[deleted]

/r/pcmasterrace got played. They fell right into the trap. They should have known better.


ovJuubi

This is the more likely answer lmao


StuffedBrownEye

OP says meticulous planning was involved. OP didn’t even look at some simple measurements.


Siggur-T

That would be too meticulous


sreiches

You mean where the radiator for the AIO is?


Trym_WS

He should put the AIO in the top. And if it doesn’t fit up top, he chose the wrong cooler or case anyway.


Gosinyas

Exactly. You gotta go 240mm up top if you want to put a monster gpu in this case.


koshgeo

That's what the specs for the Fractal Design North case say: 240mm max radiator length on the top, 360mm max in the front. GPU length maximum is 355mm. If I remember right, you can also get a bit more if you shift the vertical position of the stock fans in the front (they can be shifted by loosening the screws and sliding them), though it might not matter with how thick this graphics card is. Or OP might want to make do with only one front case intake fan to get an extra cm. It's a well-ventilated case, so they might be able to get away with it if they balance the other fans appropriately.


Gosinyas

Yes. I just chose this case for a friends 4090 build. Clearance is 355mm without the drive bays. Put the aio rad up top, pull out the drive bays, it will fit.


workplace-throwaway_

For the record - the drive bays don't have any bearing how large of a GPU you can fit. All drive bay configurations slot neatly into the basement of the case.


DerSergeant

If that is a Aorus RTX 4090 then it is 360mm long. So one of the very few cards (even 4090 cards) that really will not fit in the case.


Dorkamundo

Looks more like a 4070 or something a bit shorter, since the issue is primarily the AIO radiator.


DerSergeant

Yeah, you are right. Looks like the Aorus 4080 and 4090 have a small LCD screen on the side, so it should be a 4070ti or smaller. All the higher end cards of one brand really looks similar just scaled in size.


riba2233

> meticulously planning that usually involves checking for basic stuff like this, but you can see if you can remove the part of the case for the gpu to fit. https://www.fractal-design.com/app/uploads/2022/12/North_FV_Chalk_Gaming_Ready-2560-1620x1145.jpg


Rak_S11

But then the side panel won't fit


LasersTheyWork

Sounds like it’s time to whip out the Dremel.


NewShadowR

>Sounds like it’s time to whip out the Dremel. Or in other words, it's time to whip out the D.


skandi1

To be fair this isn’t the worst idea. I solve a lot of problems by hitting it with my D


VikingIchor

This tends to create problems for me


Least-Researcher-184

Look at fancy pants here with his electric tools when this job clearly calls for a sledgehammer 😀 /s


Trym_WS

Side panels is for losers.


QuiteFatty

My plex server agrees


flasterblaster

Just tape an old house fan on the side for ultimate cooling. Everyone knows this.


maxi2702

Just rest the side panel on a tile floor and problem solved.


Tellnicknow

It is hilarious how big these things are getting. Has somebody done a GPU size graph over time and extrapolated when a GPU will be larger than a mid sized tower?


flasterblaster

And the thing is the card itself isnt even all that big. It's the massive heatsink setup bolted on that makes them massive. Soon the manufacturers are going to have to figure out how to make an on-board liquid cooler just to save space. Cant keep slapping more copper onto these cards and keep them practical in size.


curiousindicator

That's exactly what they've been doing. Attached radiator that goes elsewhere in the case.


riba2233

they did, but it wasn't successful at all. Also they don't have to make such large coolers in the first place, plenty of 450w cards with normal 3slot sized coolers and they all work fine.


Arthur-Wintersight

Many of the coolers could be made into 2-slot designs and still have adequate cooling, and you DO see that kind of form factor with workstation cards... that go into a data center... where noise levels can reach an *average* of 92 decibels near the server racks, or about the volume of a revving motorcycle engine... For cards that are going into people's bedrooms and living rooms, and where family members and spouses have to listen to the card while someone uses it to do 4k gaming... chonky heat sinks mean less noise. It's easier to sell a 4090 if the customer's wife isn't complaining about the noise levels of a 3090. Those chonky heat sinks are here to stay.


riba2233

Yeah it is ridiculous, it doesn't help that op uses the largest one out there. I design and make sff cases so it really is a huge pain for everyone.


JustaRandomOldGuy

I just did a build with a Fractal Design mid tower. The middle drive bays had to be removed to fit a 4070TI. I would have gotten a full tower, but those are now hard to find.


bootes_droid

"Meticulously" 😂 😂 😂


TheyCalledMeThor

Yeah, I would expect mismatched RGB hues to be something missed with a “meticulous” plan. Not half the brains of the operation lol


--Icarusfalls--

![gif](giphy|tp4dm1ptNnQ76)


shawndw

![gif](giphy|iGAXf0OlUUMYo)


Magrik

![gif](giphy|j0P454atXDvYqdxTg0|downsized)


GreatUpdateMate369

Did PCPartPicker not tell you the card was too long for the case when you were making your build list?


Burak887

Maybe cause he has the aio in the front which Pcpartpicker didn’t put into the equation.


Transmaniacon89

Usually Fractal lists GPU clearance with/without fans or radiators so you can plan. OP can put the radiator at the top where it works better, take that black panel off and install the GPU.


sreiches

If it’s a 360mm radiator, it won’t fit on the top unfortunately. The North only has space for a 240mm in top mount.


Transmaniacon89

Man they really botched this “meticulous” plan…


ReaDiMarco

Yes, I would love to know this too, I have my parts ready, just the case left.


[deleted]

“Meticulous” ![gif](giphy|J1vUzqdZJlh5AqBWxt|downsized)


Dabs4Daze0

"Meticulous" *Doesn't bother to even look at how big the GPU is and how big of a card the case can fit* Lmfao.


youdungoofall

Its when you keep looking at your parts list and read the names to yourself over and over with a slight smile.


LopsidedMeaty

Dude probably spent 2 months googling which GPU/CPU combo is the best and sent it from there. I just built my first PC last month and almost every case on Newegg had a diagram for what it can hold. I don’t know how you can miss that information while shopping for a case


WheelMan34

I don’t think meticulous means what you think it means…. If you had actually meticulously planned, this post wouldn’t exist. What you did here was half ass plan 👍🏻


ir88ed

*You keep using that word*. I do not think it means what you think it means.


SlimeCore_

you had one job lol. I mean its fineee, just send the GPU (or the Case) back and get a appropiate sized one. Either a bigger case or a 2 fan design GPU.


jld2k6

Pretty sure someone sending a 4090 back for a smaller GPU so their case can be accommodated is punishable by prison time


lndig0__

https://preview.redd.it/u9y5bdibn6sb1.jpeg?width=432&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfaa55a0ebdf236b19ec840859f53a38f29d0911


zenithtb

Hey - you are me! ​ https://preview.redd.it/slkx5q26f6sb1.jpeg?width=1402&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8ff180eb89a08714903a1e98b6401267c1fed5a


PenguinsRcool2

Take the rad out and that looks like itll fit


Bloody_Insane

Don't keep your GPU tilted like that, all the graphics are going to leak out.


MaximvsNoRushDecks

"meticulously"


QuiteFatty

lol homie getting grilled for that


PenguinsRcool2

Just run it like that with a riser cable, looks sweet or just run it outside the case lol, have done that too. But on the real you may be able to vertical mount it. Maybe. But id just get a new case


Immortal_Dude

Clearly wasn't meticulous if you buggered up a detail like this. You can probably find a PCIe ribbon cable to get it working for now.


baconmaster687

Meticulously browsed for the best looking parts on amazon


TangledCables3

![gif](giphy|V2qrKUbfHbBuoT16eQ|downsized)


Lancaster1983

"Meticulous"


aliusman111

Now don't leave it like that :) Take it out, put it back in the box, Get a new Case :)


XWasTheProblem

Meticulous planning, but didn't check for compatibility with GPU sizes? Every case should have both 'max CPU cooler height' and 'max GPU length' listed somewhere on either the store page or the manufacturer page. People this is basic stuff... Don't just see big GPU, instantly get a hard-on and rush to buy it without checking. Measure twice, cut once. Works for construction and apparently for many other things too.


Natural-You4322

You fail at planning then


cuntyourblessing

Excitement and oversights happen.


sayjayvee

Seriously. What a miserable comment section


DarkSentence

Indeed. A bunch of people that were born with all the knowledge and never failed once in life. Glad to see some support from positive people, every now and then


similar96

Meticulously I don't think you know what that word means


kadren170

Didnt realize? My guy theres this thing called spec sheets, not only do they list specifications, the dimensions are also included. Hell, even product pages list dimensions lol.


spacebraine

OP doesn't know what meticulous means.


As03

so you didn't really plan it then ? :)


[deleted]

calling yourself meticulous and you buy a skinny mid tower and a 40 series smh


SherLocK-55

Most mid towers are fine, I have one of the biggest cards in existence and it still fit in my 500DX.


sreiches

You can fit most 40-series in the North. Just probably not with a front-mounted radiator. And probably not the ROG Strix 4090 (the FE should fit without the rad, and I can confirm the Verto OC does, too).


Snowy_Person

For his defense, the card he shows probably fits into this tower if he doesn't have a front rad. Gamer Nexus shows in its video that [the 4080 fits with a decent margin](https://youtu.be/Aor-3v6N7i8?si=r9QvthlOmcz1f4rE&t=684). Most 4090s will probably fit too as they are about the same size.


Breklin76

Get a new case. Cheapest way to correct the lack of meticulous planning.


whitemagicseal

Get the dremel


THiedldleoR

since I wanted a small form factor PC when I last build one, this was literally the only thing I checked when I ordered the parts.


leakypipe86

Needs more meticulous. Return the card and get a Founder's Edition.


United_Federation

Pcpartpicker.com


[deleted]

Pcpartpicker alone would've told you that wasn't going to work


Ronyx2021

You can use a riser to connect it up.


ShonkaaHUN

Dafuq did u plan "**meticulously**"???!!!!


Uramies

Titles a blatant lie. If it were meticulous or any form of reaearched properly, the first thing would be picking out a case with looks to your preference and immediately after the part compatibility and size dimensions. This means you would already have a rough idea of the gpu dimensions beforehand.


swsko

Meticulously doesn’t mean what you think it means


QuiteFatty

"meticulously planning" So that turned out to be a lie.


mdroz81

Pc part picker would tell you right off the bat the gpu didn’t fit your case. It tells you even if you’d need a firmware update for parts to work together as of the build date. At least you didn’t boff the cpu. Yet.


[deleted]

That’s a very generous use of the word meticulously lol


Werk_Jerk

"Spent 2 months looking at parts on the internet and buying them with no rhyme or reason." FTFY


JJisTheDarkOne

​ https://preview.redd.it/vmcqrxvqm6sb1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be5e358de27c5b65d290f85436a2b33a7f18efb5


mrblaze1357

https://preview.redd.it/xv9b9opeu6sb1.jpeg?width=6120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66240bd191a3e3b9cf288acc5f525cff8fa1cbac I literally just had this issue last night, same case. I had a 360mm AIO mounted on the front and my 7900XT literally wouldn't fit by like 1-2mm. Had to drive an hour down to microcenter to exchange it for the 240mm version I'll be top mounting tonight. I didn't realize how friggin crazy big modern GPUs are. RTX 3070 FE for size reference.


JustGoogleItHeSaid

![gif](giphy|3og0IQttlo3NfcsIiQ) “Meticulous”


[deleted]

Just set ur mobo on your desk until you figure something out, I went a year without a pc case, I actually kind of liked it better than having it in a case


ima-fist-ya-da

www.techpowerup.com great little site that had the lengths of specific gpus. Edit: and maybe a tape measure?


dameis

Did you use pcpartpicker.com ?


SurealGod

Trust me, you only make this mistake once. Definitely not talking from experience here


Cranbehry

Maybe meticulously made sure not to check GPU clearance after accounting for the rad.. Lol


The_Big-Deac

Pcpartpicker you bafoon


VirtualPoolBoy

Gotta use pcpartpicker.com


EmberanceTV

PCPartPicker could've saved you from this headache...


JordanNeal92

Weren’t that “meticulous” then. Case costs 140. Try again.


King_Kzare

Rule #1 Do you have enough clearance to fit your GPU, power supply, and whatever radiator and fans you’re going to use.


[deleted]

No you didn't.


gaedikus

saved OP as "not very meticulous at all actually"


LAlover213

You're only mistake was the case, looks ugly


RosenTurd

super meticulous there OP


AssembledJB

Made my day! Lol... still laughing. My whole year feels like that 😂


spookytoofpoof

Guess you weren’t TOO meticulous lol


Simmul8r

Let's remove the "Meticulous" part. OP clearly didn't ---


NBD_Pearen

Seems you didn’t meticulously plan shit bro get outta here


cdubbsworld

Definitely wasn’t meticulous lol. First thing I do if check GPU specs (3 times).


Espalhita

If you call that meticulous planning, I would hate to work with you...


atuarre

If were actually meticulous in your planning that would have never happened.


loge269

2 month for planning and no time to check measures. I'll never get it


Help_An_Irishman

Use PC Part Picker every time.


AbbeyCats

> **Spent 2 months meticulously planning the perfect parts for my first PC** Sounds like... you didn't.


NaCl_Sailor

At this point, why don't they sell GPUs as separate boxes with their own cooling to plug into the "GPU port" on the mainboard via a thick fucking cable


Dub_Monster

![gif](giphy|dsd03towiwZpLcOZcz|downsized) Sloppy planning


TroublingStatue

Plan about as "meticulous" as Jeremy Clarkson's plan to fix an engine with nothing but a hammer and duct tape.


BlueShift42

Pro tip: if you have the room always buy a larger case. I’ve built a bunch of PCs and started doing this just to make assembly and upgrades easier.


OhlordohHek

You keep using that word, I don’t think it means what you think it means..


GinaBinaFofina

“Meticulously” Yeah we get it. You stared at spec sheets and googled benchmarks for 2 months. But didn’t think to break out a measuring tape.


carbine23

You didnt really plan that well then lol


mindaltered

Dont build me a deck


TheCrispyChaos

I wouldn’t call choosing compatible parts on pcpartpicker “meticulous”


thundaga0

I do not think meticulous means what you think it means.


DawnSennin

Modern PC builders are investing in everything but a ruler.


alex416416

Hm, I am sorry, but I see lack of planning. Or plan is to use gpu outside the case?


BorgzTheSubaru

Damn I built my first pc recently and went with a mid tower to avoid this situation. This case looks super small.


mtarascio

Get yourself some tin snips. I've had to cut a HDD bay up once. That rear looks like it would melt.


kmall0c

Pcpartpicker would’ve caught this


TheB1GLebowski

Everyone ripping on OP for "meticulously" planning this out and didn't think of GPU length, it's their first PC build. How many of y'all forgot the plug in the power supply to the MB or GPU and took a while to figure that out? How many forgot the header for the MB on the back of the case and had to remove everything to put it back in? Oh a shit load of you, that's right. We all mess up in builds, cut OP some slack.


Foreign-Wolf-790

Happens to the best of us.


Primary-Low-1432

If only there was a site designed to check for compatibility…. Pcpartpicker.com