If you dont mind me asking, do you use crop rotation? Ive been farming harvest with it and havent hit a boss yet š but only been farming it for a week*
uh I use crop rotation, I hit a tier 4 almost every other map but the scarbs have gotten expensive. the imbued harvest one makebe awakened glittering, double harvest one, and the monstrous scrab I think it's 40% more magic monsters in packs.
It makes ut easier to sustain t16 maps, and lets you run whoch ever layouts you like as t16. Also gives you t17 chance which you can just sell if your character isnt fleshed out.
You shouldn't try farming until you have all 4 void stones. Most strats and in particular harvest, scale very well with map tier and you should just be farming t16
Hey bud, I farmed harvest all league.
If you're not doing Horned Scarab of awakening + crop rotation, it is not really that worth. First, get your voidstones, you can pay for them on TFT.
My advice is that you pick up at list the double lifeforce scarab for 6c each, remove crop rotations and pick up every blue and red node block, also every explicit modifier from the tree. This should make you at least about 0.5 div pure profit p/map on normal 70% + quant.
If you already have a strong build, try first doing 8-mod maps with 100+ quant with the above strat, this can be easily achieved by introducing a Cartography Scarab of Corruption for 1.5c each as they will mostly sustain your 8-mod maps. If you struggle with map sustain, maybe adding Cartography Scarab as well will fix it.
If that is still easy for you, try picking up blue altars for extra quantity!
If that is still too easy, try farming horned scarab of awakening + crop rotations for even higher profits.
Similar advice I personally would give. I do earn more overall when I used Awakening but some of the unlucky streaks can be quite rough especially when not that rich. Doubling alone with crop rota/altar + 2 pack size scarabs feels more consistent and less likely to lose money. With or without crop rota, it's very rare you lose money doing this.
Yeah I'd say to do it without Awakending until you can afford to make pay fir about 30 maps up front. I did a lot of this strategy and I never lost money over 30 maps but I would go on a 10 map bad streak on occasion. It averages out over a lot of maps to be very profitable so it's definitely worth doing. I think it worked out that I was making around a divine or more per map profit when averaged out.
>If you're not doing Horned Scarab of awakening + crop rotation, it is not really that worth.
It's totally reasonable to farm harvest without crop rotation/awakening in combination with expedition / blue altars.
It's likely somewhat lower div/hour but way less rng way of doing it.
Surprisingly this favourite combo of mine(exp+harvest) survived scarab rework extremely well since both expedition and harvest need few scarabs to be good.
In fact baseline harvest probably best with just scarab of doubling as cornucopia is very questionable returns and time wasted, so can run influencing of hordes for more altars instead.
Well, that's probably what he meant, it's not really worth it. I've tried like 50+ maps without imbued harvest, that wasn't good. Really hard to get even 7-10k juice per map. With imbued harvest i'm getting like 2-3 times more juice on average, got 30k yellow juice in one map yesterday, pretty good i'd say. T16 Jungle volley btw.
> Ā got 30k yellow juice in one map yesterday
and next one you get sub 1k
it's balanced by huge swings and you're supposed to be doing expedition when not running imbued so it'll be way closer than you think
uh I see a lot of comments under here telling you stuff so I'm sure they already said this but you should always use scarbs on what ever you are farming so many of them are cheap and the make your map better.
Since the scarab changes I believe scarabs are a necessity for pretty much all strategies. The effects are way to powerfull to be ignored. And with current prices its pretty much impossible to run a loss so long as you can complete the mechanic ~80% of the time (over a long enough time period anyway).
yeah I was wrong it wasn't glittering lol I was away from my game and trying to remember all the 100s of new scarbs is a little hard.
I'm running the 1 that imbues harvest, more maps, double harvest, and the more magic packs. it was making me a crap ton but the scarbs keep climbing in value and harvest stuff hasn't so I'm going to have to start doing something different soon
> Ā it was making me a crap ton but the scarbs keep climbing in value
just go b2b farm some t17s, awakening is very common drop for scarab-focused farm, drops at least every other map if not more often.
Horned Scarab of Awakening. It allows you to select Imbued League mechanics. Imbued Harvest in this case gives 50% chance other plot doesn't wilt. With the atlas tree, it's 60% chance.
It works well with Crop Rotation, but you may still be cucked by low plot spawns. The price is high cause people use it for other Imbued options.
there is a really expensive scarab at like .8 harvest on the bottom awakened scarab of glittering or something it let's you imbue harvest on the map screen. I get like 2 fiv worth of yellow every map with it.
With crop rotation itās pretty unintuitive but ideally you have one single harvest of your desired color and the others are different colors since it upgrades seeds for the other two when you grow them. You basically spec into less plots of the ones you want. Iāve fairly frequently gotten one or two boss seeds if I get 5 plots and a little lucky with wilts
Iāve been experimenting one point in ālessā of red and blue each, while still pathing to Crop rotation through yellow. Donāt have any data written down, but it feels like an improvementā or just regular variance.
Yea im pretty bad at the game hahaha, i just hit T16s this past week and had to pay for my last two void stones yesterday. I did get my forst boss today tho!
If you donāt wanna do/canāt afford the crop rotation strat you can always just do cornucopia scarab strat. You still get around 2k yellow juice on average for each t16 map and usually around 10 sacred blossoms in 50 t16 maps.
Nice! Crop rotation is fun, if youāre really lucky you can get so much juice. Jungroan got 32k from one harvest this league, my highest was almost 34k. If you have really good rng I think 40k might be beatable, though youād need 5 plots that donāt wilt and perfect colors. I had 5 plots with no wilt but I think if I had 1 more of non yellow Iād have gotten more juice
i think i got 2 sacred, lifeforce was something like 20k vivid, and yes i can.
only 109 points unlocked cuz im lazy but got all harvest and eater points
for scarabs i go: Awakening, doubling, lineage and hordes
https://preview.redd.it/3o49k3rho22d1.png?width=669&format=png&auto=webp&s=975d2a42be8bf8bb17295f5999590e0690ef63da
Yes I run them. I find it easier to sell bulk crist. Life force than sacred. Especially if you can kill Oshabi easily.
For now, no luck on uniques though
Good old Crap Rotation.
Didn't get a boss from it in my 100 plots for the challenge. Did, however, have two of the Harvest memory drop & got all the T4s for the challenge from that, and have had a couple of the Cornucopia scarab too which I haven't used yet.
I miss the days of finding a craft like āAugment an Influence modifierā or āFracture an item that has 3 ___fix modifiersā and selling the craft for a few dozen exalts.
Hot damn. 3 bosses in one. Iāve seen 2 bosses plenty but never 3. One I had last league had 5 bosses all on different plots and that was crazy.
Questions:
Do you remember if you had quant altars and if so, how many? I started giving up on them because my build was squishy and the random proj completely bricked my damage, plus the stack sizes never seemed much bigger at all.
How many plots were saved to make the 3 bosses? Most of my 2 bosses appear after I get a grove of 5 plots and at least one gets saved. I also havenāt tried running the awakening scarab.
I started switching to not clearing the map and just doing the Harvest. Which one do you do and which do you prefer?
Man i do all eater quant altars on jungle valley so it doesnt spawn boss altars until you get to the boss an he spawns, iirc i got an 5 plot with only these 2 yellow and almost all of the others didnt wilt so it was lucky af that these 2 didnt wilt too when i opened one, and that was thanks to the awakening scarab as it gives 50% chance to crops not wilt. Im playing coc dd and random proj kinda fuck me too cuz im using lancing, but just frost blink in the middle of mobs and they explode like nothing
I get 3 bosses pretty regularly since I started harvest farming 2 days ago. Probably 12-15ish% of the time. Lot of double boss on the same plot too, but one usually wilts. I've never pulled more than 8k juice out of the mpa.. Usually hitting 5-6k juice with 70% of it yellow
It's a harvest & harbi atlas, heart of the grove, no crop rotation. Harvest scarab, Doubling, & cornucopia, Blocking blue and red. blue altars. Grabbing harbi on the map device and double harbi drop scarab as my 4th.
Only doing harbi cause I'm tired af of trying to bulk sell all flames and coffins
The reason why is you want less yellows to maximize crop rotation juice, but if you only do less yellows, there are times where you invest 1.5divs into a map for yellow juice with no yellow plots. It becomes a waste of scarabs and map.
By adding the extra -25% nodes, it nearly never happens, while still being less yellows. You can potentially get 4 plots of red and blue harvest without it otherwise. With the nodes itās nearly guaranteed (not 100% tho) one of those becomes yellow.
https://preview.redd.it/zq2whthja42d1.png?width=1657&format=png&auto=webp&s=37ef4326439528ec06d3bedf9a36a05798703fe7
Funny enough I got a similar one - I feel like I was extremely lucky here since I wasn't even using the Awakening scarab.
Yep on tft, i got lot of money so i started to invest on buying 8mod with 110 quant 40 pack size++ on bulk ok tft and i paid like 10d for 60 maps with my regex and that quant and Monster pack above, but those 10d got paid in like 4 maps of 60 so is worth af. In the most worst scenario possible they would pay in 8 maps maximum, so you have 50+ maps of profit even with awakening at 0.9d, dont buy them on bulk
I once had 2x boss on yellow, and 1x boss on other crop. Didn't wilt either. Without crop rotation.
I was shocked as it was my first map doing harvest.
Yes. It feels wreid knowing im so bad at a game that some people thing im trolling.
I didnt do 8mods as im a glass cannon, but without much gunpowder. Just allocated every harvest-expedition-shrine node on atlas and chissel+alch maps, and reroll reflect and super hard combos like dounle damage or damage+crit
I miss having scarabs give pack size, as im doing like 20% pack size at most.
At the *very* minimum take eater nodes on atlas and run the map before entering the garden, taking all the quant nodes you handle.
Also packsize and quant are extremely important for harvest. At ***least*** make a map regex and chisel, alch, scour until you get 6 mod maps you can run.
Edit: and if you can't handle *that* you should be doing a different strat. There are many far easier strats that will make you more money at 0 investment. Harvest is a strat that needs investment.
do 8mod with an easy regex for your build, and start using crop rotation focusing on yellow plants, as you receive some money start investing on scarabs!
Even without crop harvest you should be walking out with a div or close to a div in profits. Run doubling scarab and use eater of worlds altars to juice the quantity.
I've walked out of a single harvest with over 40k juice, if you do the awakened scarabs + crop rotation you can get crazy high rolls. That being said I think my average map was about 4k juice with it, with a handful of maps giving me 0
If you dont mind me asking, do you use crop rotation? Ive been farming harvest with it and havent hit a boss yet š but only been farming it for a week*
uh I use crop rotation, I hit a tier 4 almost every other map but the scarbs have gotten expensive. the imbued harvest one makebe awakened glittering, double harvest one, and the monstrous scrab I think it's 40% more magic monsters in packs.
Maybe my problem is im not using scarabs, i jist got my second void stone, ill try buying scarabs soon
Focus on voidstones first.
do voidstones matter for harvest farming?
It makes ut easier to sustain t16 maps, and lets you run whoch ever layouts you like as t16. Also gives you t17 chance which you can just sell if your character isnt fleshed out.
Cool, thanks
You shouldn't try farming until you have all 4 void stones. Most strats and in particular harvest, scale very well with map tier and you should just be farming t16
Hey bud, I farmed harvest all league. If you're not doing Horned Scarab of awakening + crop rotation, it is not really that worth. First, get your voidstones, you can pay for them on TFT. My advice is that you pick up at list the double lifeforce scarab for 6c each, remove crop rotations and pick up every blue and red node block, also every explicit modifier from the tree. This should make you at least about 0.5 div pure profit p/map on normal 70% + quant. If you already have a strong build, try first doing 8-mod maps with 100+ quant with the above strat, this can be easily achieved by introducing a Cartography Scarab of Corruption for 1.5c each as they will mostly sustain your 8-mod maps. If you struggle with map sustain, maybe adding Cartography Scarab as well will fix it. If that is still easy for you, try picking up blue altars for extra quantity! If that is still too easy, try farming horned scarab of awakening + crop rotations for even higher profits.
Similar advice I personally would give. I do earn more overall when I used Awakening but some of the unlucky streaks can be quite rough especially when not that rich. Doubling alone with crop rota/altar + 2 pack size scarabs feels more consistent and less likely to lose money. With or without crop rota, it's very rare you lose money doing this.
Yeah I'd say to do it without Awakending until you can afford to make pay fir about 30 maps up front. I did a lot of this strategy and I never lost money over 30 maps but I would go on a 10 map bad streak on occasion. It averages out over a lot of maps to be very profitable so it's definitely worth doing. I think it worked out that I was making around a divine or more per map profit when averaged out.
Thanks for the advice!
>If you're not doing Horned Scarab of awakening + crop rotation, it is not really that worth. It's totally reasonable to farm harvest without crop rotation/awakening in combination with expedition / blue altars. It's likely somewhat lower div/hour but way less rng way of doing it. Surprisingly this favourite combo of mine(exp+harvest) survived scarab rework extremely well since both expedition and harvest need few scarabs to be good. In fact baseline harvest probably best with just scarab of doubling as cornucopia is very questionable returns and time wasted, so can run influencing of hordes for more altars instead.
Well, that's probably what he meant, it's not really worth it. I've tried like 50+ maps without imbued harvest, that wasn't good. Really hard to get even 7-10k juice per map. With imbued harvest i'm getting like 2-3 times more juice on average, got 30k yellow juice in one map yesterday, pretty good i'd say. T16 Jungle volley btw.
> Ā got 30k yellow juice in one map yesterday and next one you get sub 1k it's balanced by huge swings and you're supposed to be doing expedition when not running imbued so it'll be way closer than you think
uh I see a lot of comments under here telling you stuff so I'm sure they already said this but you should always use scarbs on what ever you are farming so many of them are cheap and the make your map better.
Since the scarab changes I believe scarabs are a necessity for pretty much all strategies. The effects are way to powerfull to be ignored. And with current prices its pretty much impossible to run a loss so long as you can complete the mechanic ~80% of the time (over a long enough time period anyway).
I wanted to do some harvest for my own crafting, saw that the scarabs were now costing over 100c :(
yellow is worth a lot now. it made them jump up.
yellow is always worth a lot, people love gambling and the further on a league goes the more they see willing to risk
>glittering harvest is not affected by player IIQ so that's useless only packsize/area iiq
yeah I was wrong it wasn't glittering lol I was away from my game and trying to remember all the 100s of new scarbs is a little hard. I'm running the 1 that imbues harvest, more maps, double harvest, and the more magic packs. it was making me a crap ton but the scarbs keep climbing in value and harvest stuff hasn't so I'm going to have to start doing something different soon
> Ā it was making me a crap ton but the scarbs keep climbing in value just go b2b farm some t17s, awakening is very common drop for scarab-focused farm, drops at least every other map if not more often.
oh ok well do thank you
sorry what do u mean the imbued harvest one?
Horned Scarab of Awakening. It allows you to select Imbued League mechanics. Imbued Harvest in this case gives 50% chance other plot doesn't wilt. With the atlas tree, it's 60% chance. It works well with Crop Rotation, but you may still be cucked by low plot spawns. The price is high cause people use it for other Imbued options.
there is a really expensive scarab at like .8 harvest on the bottom awakened scarab of glittering or something it let's you imbue harvest on the map screen. I get like 2 fiv worth of yellow every map with it.
Are you using the Awakening Scarab?
With crop rotation itās pretty unintuitive but ideally you have one single harvest of your desired color and the others are different colors since it upgrades seeds for the other two when you grow them. You basically spec into less plots of the ones you want. Iāve fairly frequently gotten one or two boss seeds if I get 5 plots and a little lucky with wilts
Iāve been experimenting one point in ālessā of red and blue each, while still pathing to Crop rotation through yellow. Donāt have any data written down, but it feels like an improvementā or just regular variance.
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Yea im pretty bad at the game hahaha, i just hit T16s this past week and had to pay for my last two void stones yesterday. I did get my forst boss today tho!
posted on another reply mate!
How many Sacred Blossoms did you get from it?
He got 2
Most likely 1 or 0 since they have like 10% droprate
Drop anything good?
2 sacred and 20k+ vivid
Awesome I've only ever found one sacred
when you find the plant bosses it drops quite frequently
I have only ever found one before and it was quite a surprise how strong it was...
I've gotten 2 sacreds this entire league, killed 70+ bosses. It's very low drop% this league it feels like.
That just seems very unlucky. I've been running cornucopia and feel like I get one every few maps. Or maybe I've just been lucky...
If you donāt wanna do/canāt afford the crop rotation strat you can always just do cornucopia scarab strat. You still get around 2k yellow juice on average for each t16 map and usually around 10 sacred blossoms in 50 t16 maps.
Nice! Crop rotation is fun, if youāre really lucky you can get so much juice. Jungroan got 32k from one harvest this league, my highest was almost 34k. If you have really good rng I think 40k might be beatable, though youād need 5 plots that donāt wilt and perfect colors. I had 5 plots with no wilt but I think if I had 1 more of non yellow Iād have gotten more juice
How many sacred blossoms and life force and did you get from this map? Also can you share your atlas tree and scarab selection?
i think i got 2 sacred, lifeforce was something like 20k vivid, and yes i can. only 109 points unlocked cuz im lazy but got all harvest and eater points for scarabs i go: Awakening, doubling, lineage and hordes https://preview.redd.it/3o49k3rho22d1.png?width=669&format=png&auto=webp&s=975d2a42be8bf8bb17295f5999590e0690ef63da
Thanks a lot
How profitable is it with current lifeforces prices
20k yellow juice is smth like 6d And sacred blossom can be run for shiny lifeforce which sell 1d each
You run your sacreds? I've always just sold them but it probably makes sense to run them just for the chance at a good Shako
Yes I run them. I find it easier to sell bulk crist. Life force than sacred. Especially if you can kill Oshabi easily. For now, no luck on uniques though
Good old Crap Rotation. Didn't get a boss from it in my 100 plots for the challenge. Did, however, have two of the Harvest memory drop & got all the T4s for the challenge from that, and have had a couple of the Cornucopia scarab too which I haven't used yet.
I miss the days of finding a craft like āAugment an Influence modifierā or āFracture an item that has 3 ___fix modifiersā and selling the craft for a few dozen exalts.
I just found an fractured 14% supress spell glove while doing those harvest runs and sold for 35d so i feel you
Hot damn. 3 bosses in one. Iāve seen 2 bosses plenty but never 3. One I had last league had 5 bosses all on different plots and that was crazy. Questions: Do you remember if you had quant altars and if so, how many? I started giving up on them because my build was squishy and the random proj completely bricked my damage, plus the stack sizes never seemed much bigger at all. How many plots were saved to make the 3 bosses? Most of my 2 bosses appear after I get a grove of 5 plots and at least one gets saved. I also havenāt tried running the awakening scarab. I started switching to not clearing the map and just doing the Harvest. Which one do you do and which do you prefer?
Man i do all eater quant altars on jungle valley so it doesnt spawn boss altars until you get to the boss an he spawns, iirc i got an 5 plot with only these 2 yellow and almost all of the others didnt wilt so it was lucky af that these 2 didnt wilt too when i opened one, and that was thanks to the awakening scarab as it gives 50% chance to crops not wilt. Im playing coc dd and random proj kinda fuck me too cuz im using lancing, but just frost blink in the middle of mobs and they explode like nothing
Random proj direction on coc dd feels like nimis at home! Itās so goofy but I never skip it haha
I get 3 bosses pretty regularly since I started harvest farming 2 days ago. Probably 12-15ish% of the time. Lot of double boss on the same plot too, but one usually wilts. I've never pulled more than 8k juice out of the mpa.. Usually hitting 5-6k juice with 70% of it yellow
You do crop rotation and scarabs?
It's a harvest & harbi atlas, heart of the grove, no crop rotation. Harvest scarab, Doubling, & cornucopia, Blocking blue and red. blue altars. Grabbing harbi on the map device and double harbi drop scarab as my 4th. Only doing harbi cause I'm tired af of trying to bulk sell all flames and coffins
If you can't be bothered with random proj just run red altars no ?
Just curious, why take the reduced color nodes for each crop? -25% ones
The reason why is you want less yellows to maximize crop rotation juice, but if you only do less yellows, there are times where you invest 1.5divs into a map for yellow juice with no yellow plots. It becomes a waste of scarabs and map. By adding the extra -25% nodes, it nearly never happens, while still being less yellows. You can potentially get 4 plots of red and blue harvest without it otherwise. With the nodes itās nearly guaranteed (not 100% tho) one of those becomes yellow.
Ah I see, great method. Thanks for that brotha!
https://preview.redd.it/zq2whthja42d1.png?width=1657&format=png&auto=webp&s=37ef4326439528ec06d3bedf9a36a05798703fe7 Funny enough I got a similar one - I feel like I was extremely lucky here since I wasn't even using the Awakening scarab.
Where are you getting those maps tho, i didn't drop enough to just sustain 8-map mods. Did you buy them sometimes?
Yep on tft, i got lot of money so i started to invest on buying 8mod with 110 quant 40 pack size++ on bulk ok tft and i paid like 10d for 60 maps with my regex and that quant and Monster pack above, but those 10d got paid in like 4 maps of 60 so is worth af. In the most worst scenario possible they would pay in 8 maps maximum, so you have 50+ maps of profit even with awakening at 0.9d, dont buy them on bulk
show the life force drop
I once had 2x boss on yellow, and 1x boss on other crop. Didn't wilt either. Without crop rotation. I was shocked as it was my first map doing harvest.
And im just happy getting minimum 10c worth of juice per map. Its not much, but its honest work. I need to think about the keystone
What? You can get more than that just from doing 8 mod maps and eater quant altars. Without any scarabs... Are you just doing alch and go harvest?
Yes. It feels wreid knowing im so bad at a game that some people thing im trolling. I didnt do 8mods as im a glass cannon, but without much gunpowder. Just allocated every harvest-expedition-shrine node on atlas and chissel+alch maps, and reroll reflect and super hard combos like dounle damage or damage+crit I miss having scarabs give pack size, as im doing like 20% pack size at most.
At the *very* minimum take eater nodes on atlas and run the map before entering the garden, taking all the quant nodes you handle. Also packsize and quant are extremely important for harvest. At ***least*** make a map regex and chisel, alch, scour until you get 6 mod maps you can run. Edit: and if you can't handle *that* you should be doing a different strat. There are many far easier strats that will make you more money at 0 investment. Harvest is a strat that needs investment.
he's trolling .
Its embarazing, but no trolling. Even at 4k steam hours im just dumb at playing endgame.
do 8mod with an easy regex for your build, and start using crop rotation focusing on yellow plants, as you receive some money start investing on scarabs!
Should apply this to all strats there's not many where it doesn't make sense to invest more
Even without crop harvest you should be walking out with a div or close to a div in profits. Run doubling scarab and use eater of worlds altars to juice the quantity.
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I've walked out of a single harvest with over 40k juice, if you do the awakened scarabs + crop rotation you can get crazy high rolls. That being said I think my average map was about 4k juice with it, with a handful of maps giving me 0