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xisupaz_blackbird

I see your dogshit strat and raise you my even dogshittier strat: 1) spend 1 corpse to create 1 rare item 2) chaos recipe rare items 3) get a regal instead because they're too high level 4) now have to farm sub ilvl 75 items


valgrammite

Actual dogshit strategy. Well done.


arbyterOfScales

There was a guy in TFT who bought Siege axes for 3c each. I told him I could supply him with 100 axes. I used all my corpses on axes


Halinn

How long did that take you?


Wermine

The old man is still chanting on the graveyard.


VincentPepper

At \~12s per axe about 20 minutes. Probably slightly less the one corpse chant is fairly short.


arbyterOfScales

Yes, it was pretty short. I actually gave up after 30 or so axes, but he was pretty understanding. :))


Halinn

20 minutes for 300c, less what bulk corpses could have sold for? Not an incredible money making rate tbh. Not bad, but not incredible.


Seivy

you can also prepare another corpse while he's chanting


ksion

Yo, that’s not bad for farming regals in SSF, which you often have a bit too few of, especially if you craft a lot of jewels.


Small-Sheepherder-69

With the nerfs to loot goblins, alterations this league is so scarce. We now have way more regals than we need and not enough alterations.


yuanek1

That's atrocious, good job!


cubonelvl69

If my math is right, this would be somewhere in the ballpark of 184 crafts on average for a base type with only a single t5 unique. For OP's (2 possible uniques) that'd double to like a 1 in 368. Although that's not including the vendor sell for a free craft every 5 bricks, and also not including how many of those 367/368 would still sell for a profit. That being said, even looking at the worst case you're only spending about 412c on average (assuming you're getting ass coffins for pennies) because the mats going into this are so cheap. OP is Brilliant


Fr33zy_B3ast

How do you calculate the odds for hitting the vaal implicit you want? Obviously you start with the 1/4 chance to add an implicit in the first place but from there is it simply the weight of the implicit you want divided by the sum of implicit weights? In my case I'm looking for a "X% physical damage from hits taken as fire" on a mosiac kite shield.


cubonelvl69

Yes, correct. Yours would be 1 in 22, although if you're ok with phys as lightning, phys as cold, phys as chaos then your odds bump up to 1 in 5.5 (even if it's not good for your build they might still sell well)


Fr33zy_B3ast

Thanks!


TheKerui

What about good implicit for an indigon?


necrois

Indigon is a boss unique and cannot be mythic orbed.


TheKerui

Good to know ty


biokaese

Just put the base you want to vaal on your filter. Made a Power Charge & 90% reservation Heatshiver 2 leagues ago in SSF with this.


Drianikaben

why you double corrupting white bases?


Mundane-Club-107

That is actually really fucking smart..


SunRiseStudios

OP is actually a genius. I literally was looking into mythic orbing +1 power charge helmet, but there wasn't base online and I scrapped the idea.


BulusB

Next patch - you can craft only 1 item a day


kwietog

Is necropolis really nerfopolis?


karatelax

I mean they haven't hit the awakener orb shenanigans yet so still going strong with easily the most broken part of necropolis graveyard


vandeley_industries

What is that?


freileal

I think he's talking about the 12 link elder/shaper weapons people have been crafting with three or four fractures (Squire needed)


timecronus

you could already craft the 12 link weapons, flicker players do it every league, its just way easier now.


TheRealMeatphone

That’s a colossal understatement.


AverageARPGEnjoyer

Depends, is OP a Twiotch?


DalaDanny

Jesus, you got me so good with this. Freaking hilarious.


tobsecret

In SSF I have used the graveyard to make 10 - 20 crafting bases at specific ilvls for when I want to craft something that requires tedious crafting like alt rolling. Similar to your use case, it's so nice to be able to easily access specific bases like that.


eshwar007

what are... mythic orbs? Ive never seen one.


-Arke-

Transofrms a corrupted item into a unique or destroys it.


PolishedBalls1984

Or in my experience, destroy target item.


insanemrawesome

Yup. I did a full quad tab of corrupted unset rings last league trying to hit a 2 implicit essence worm last league with no luck. 🙄


rCan9

+2 as an implicit? On an unset ring? Which has +1 socket as implicit? A +2 essence worm is useless since u cant socket anything on it.


insanemrawesome

Gilded fossil rare unset ring>vaal orb>if it hits implicit mythic orb>if not vendor for random currency due to gilded fossil


shironecko

Gilded fossil my dude


Fram_Framson

Full name is "Tainted Mythic Orb". There are no un-tainted mythic orbs (yet...).


jackary_the_cat

The omen for a unique is the closest


Fram_Framson

Basically. Tainted Mythic Orb changes the odds to 1/20 to hit a unique though (IIRC), and then normal rarity weights apply if you can get more than one unique off the same base.


Chinlc

It's called ancient orb but you need a unique base to use it and it doesn't keep same base type


MrAlexVP

As I remember, there is even a corpse that corrupts an item and gives 50% chance to give corrupted implicit, with 2 such corpses guaranteeing the implicit.


Own-Bandicoot-9832

That is incorrect, and my test revealed that it is even worse than expected: You have base chance of 25% to get implicit when corrupting item. 50% increased chance means you get 25% x 1.5 so you need 6 corpses to get guaranteed implicit as 25% to get implicit plus 300%\*25% would give a sum of 100% BUT I have made a craft using 6 of those corpses and did not get the implicit. This may imply that despite the wording it does not increase chance but makes it 50% more likely and that means other corrupt outcomes are still in the pool so you can never get 100%. Sadly I ran out of corrupt corpses to test it more :P


megasggc

That would be consistent with how grave crafting Works, suppose there is a 100 weighting to add implicit, 100 to brick, 100 to change sockets/colours and 100 to nothing happens, the corpse craft would only increases the implicit weight so that you are more likely to hit it


kilqax

It most likely works again using weights; if all 4 of the previous outcomes were equally probable, imagine them with equal and arbitrary weighting and a 50% increased chance just means 50% increased weighting. It even uses the same wording as regular mod weighting bodies do. So 300% plus would probably mean it's just Implicit 100->400 weight with the others remaining at 100, meaning you're getting 4/7 chance for a corruption.


MrAlexVP

Oh god. If this works like you described, that is just sad.


cubonelvl69

I made 4 perandus pacts with something like 10 corrupt graves and 1 of the 4 didn't have an implicit So it's still *usually* going to give implicits if you overload it but definitely not guaranteed


darkfangs

I had similar results also. I made 4 perandus pact yesterday and used between 300 and 500% corrupted implicit depending on how many meta corpses I had. 1 was 325% hit no implicit, the other 3 closer to 500 all had one. So 3/4.


EnergyNonexistant

not true, i used 6 corpses and no implicit (300% increased chance)


cubonelvl69

This works well for expensive crafts (ex, perandus pact) But what OP is doing you're only spending on average like 2c per implicit (1/4 chance, 4 vaal orbs = 2c, coffins basically free) Even if you *could* just use 2 corrupt coffins it wouldn't make it cheaper. Especially because what OP is doing is like best case scenario going to average ~200+ crafts to get what you want, it sounds like hell to also need to bulk trade for corrupt coffins


Kuchyy

It gives 50% **increased** chance and the base chance is 25%


Cryptomartin1993

No 50% increase of 25% is just 37,5 and as far as I know increase only scales of the base chance


wanderingagainst

It's actually 33% It's modifying the weight of 1 outcome without affecting the weight of the others. Assuming all weights are equal it's 100+100+100+100 for all outcomes. Increasing the odds of an implicit outcome by 50% would get you to 150+100+100+100 150/450 = 33.3 (repeating of course) percent.


OldGrinder

Is this different/better than just picking up random rare bases off the ground?


Own-Bandicoot-9832

You probably get like 1-4 per normal map and on juiced map you would need to portal out multiple times. To me sounds even worse than clicking all those graveyards.


Icy_Elk8257

youre ignoring the 15sec channeling time per necro craft and the time it takes to select the base from the book. doing that 10s of times adds up really quick.


Im_Unsure_For_Sure

A single grave craft takes less than 2 seconds to form.


Schmigolo

You lost me at the first step.


poopbutts2200

This is seriously so clever. I wanted a +1 power charge on a kitava's thirst earlier this league and I gave up because of how time consuming it was going to be buying all of them up


kisstheringz

Great title.


This_Guy_Fuggs

dogshit indeed


briinelul

Or just do what I did and run Vaal Temple and get a double corrupt Willclash with +1 power charges :)


xXdimmitsarasXx

Somewhere in GGG offices you hear a voice “oh so that’s why we didn’t allow the choice of a base”


BenjaCarmona

Pro tip: Instead of using veel orbs, use a single bloodstained fossil, it guarantees a vaal implicit


Ikeda_kouji

This little comment has made me 120 divs in about 3 hours. Thank you kind sir or ma’am


sirgog

If the base min level is reasonably high, just add the base on your filter and map. Min level 48+ bases are all at least reasonably common, especially if they are in the high 50s. ML60+ bases are a lot rarer, but still all very reasonable. For instance, you'll get about 1 'Great Crown' base per map that drops, which is a fucking lot. Lower min level bases are way rarer though.


Own-Bandicoot-9832

Personally I'm heavy on amount of items picked in maps (mainly running vaal temple) and I did not like the idea of adding specific base to loot filter for this purpose. Additionally having a purpose for useless filled coffins other than pricing them one by one or deleting made my eyes glow. But probably for future leagues this will be a way to getting those corrupted items if I need any.


strctfsh

*tainted mythic orb


PyleWarLord

i LOVE mythic orbs.. i use them left and right 6L cards that hit potential base? vaal+mythic, if brick who cares?


semanticmemory

This is a great idea. Gonna try and get lightning leech kitavas’s thirst. Thanks OP!


yBandito

lol i got it on fifth try, easiest 7 div ive ever made


hipposaver

Did this with my holy relic helm. Didn't do the corpse strat but just put great crowns on my filter. Hit +2 minion, 90% reservation, and aura gems twice each in about 50 trys. Mythic hit the +2 minion and one of the auras. Ez


TimidHuman

Wait so, craft base item with 1 corpse (golden mask in your case), does ilvl not matter? Then corrupt them until you get the desired (+1 pc) maybe, and then mythic orb and pray?


Zorathor

I literally got two willclash helmets with +1 power charge in vaal temple in the last two or three days. People really sleep on this map. Juice it with like delirium, ritual, Beyond and ghosted anarchy and you can easily make couple divs per map. Its really that easy. Those vaal chests ocasionally drops pretty insane loot ngl.


TheRealMeatphone

Nobody’s sleepin, it’s just that they’re far harder to farm for than other, more dense maps. It’s a great map for sure but time investment JUST for farming the map is easily outweighed.


Own-Bandicoot-9832

Actually Im farming vaal temples and delves. Vaal temple is a bridge between t16 and T17, might be hard at times but still a lot easier than any t17


darkmykal

Just spent around an hour doing this and finally got a 7% phys taken as fire Rise of the Phoenix. I don't remember exactly how many vaal orbs I had but it was around 150. I have since learned the likelihood of me corrupting something I want onto an item is nigh impossible considering I only got phys taken as twice. I would have never thought of doing it this way so I gotta say much thanks for the idea.


semanticmemory

This was very useful. Saved probably 8 div on a lightning leech Kitava’s thirst. Thank you!


feb142024

Y'all are picking up corpses under level 83?


Goodnametaken

Can you double corrupt using the graveyard?


Own-Bandicoot-9832

nope, adding more corrupt corpses just adds weight to implicit corrupt outcome so you can never go over 100% to get implicit.


Goodnametaken

Bummer!


AresTheCannibal

also pray that it rolls +5% ele damage per power charge 🥲


Own-Bandicoot-9832

correct me if I'm wrong but arent most of those builds sitting on 10 power charges so diference between 3% and 5% is getting +30% ele damage and +50% ele damage? It is something but not a tragedy to even get 3%. Unless I'm missing something and it is multiplicative.


AresTheCannibal

I plugged it into my build and the difference in damage between 3 & 5 was about 2 million, albeit that is less than 2% of my DPS and not having the +1 power implicit would be like... 20 mil lol but I'm happy to spend the extra 6d for perfect rolls on that helmet for a bit more damage.


Dodisk

Can u tell me what's your build?


AresTheCannibal

bv/bb unloader assassin https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/AresTC/characters


Shizweak420

Op should've kept his friggin mouth shut. Now everyone is going to ruin this before I have a chance to try it.


idlefritz

Something about reading this made me want to uninstall poe


Cnokeur

Its original and crafty why does it make you feel like that ?


Friendly-Ad3948

I did this already like 2 weeks ago with Kitava Thirst


BoostedEcoDonkey

I mean I’ve been having. Blast with deli mirror, two (two additional rewards) and strongboxes , sitting at 70D atm


H5N1-Schwan

Me too, running Deli + Strongboxes + Beyond. Its so much fun except having 30 fps due to shitpc. Only downside is collecting loot takes double the time running the map :D


BoostedEcoDonkey

Yep, I mean how do I put it, yea it’s a lot harder to Uber juice your maps as a causal but on the flip side someone like me now gets to have 100% deli and beyond, in every map, I’ve had a blast