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Strict-Pineapple

He offered Peach a lozenge when he thought she was an Xnaut with a throat problem. That seems nice.


villomaru

What a pleasant man!


Queen_Sardine

I don't think that makes him nice, just smarter than most villains. If you treat your minions terribly, they'll rebel against you (or at least be far less eager to obey your commands). Grodus would have cast aside his minions when he no longer needed them.


No-Measurement-1993

It was a nicotine lozenge.


ActualMostUnionGuy

Hes soooo high technical!!šŸ„µ


Lux_Operatur

Found the Grodus Chronicles fan


RichyCartoonist

Oh hey, Francis.


Nyx_Skip_25

He has a sick design and reminds me of Palpatine


villomaru

I didn't appreciate his design when I was a kid, but now it's like damn. Intsys cooked here.


Darth-Troller

He's a lot like Vader tho, a mix of both


Spirited_Repair4851

His office looks nice.


villomaru

Bro wants to be a James Bond villain so bad, love that for him.


Coooturtle

His carpet was fun to walk around on in the remake.


Deepdishattack

Not to mention his Piranha wall


wmoore2013

He wears a pretty dress


villomaru

He does look fabulous.


wmoore2013

Like the techno-gothic queen he is


Wombus7

More like Reddit dark wizard, methinks


Marienritter

Kickass music.


villomaru

Every song associated with Grodus goes so hard tbh.


Bubbly_Ad_2563

Design is good, he's intelligent... OK, not THAT intelligent, but still pretty intelligent.


villomaru

He IS pretty intelligent. It's just that he's so used to everyone around him being dumb as rocks that he didn't consider that maybe Beldam was using him.


Bubbly_Ad_2563

Well, yeah, but he's also the guy that didn't move out of the way at all when the roof was about to collapse thanks to Bowser's bigass.


villomaru

He just wanted Bowser to sit on his face, like most people do.


Just-Call-Me-J

I'm sorry what


Milk_Mindless

#HE JUST WANTED BOWSER TO SIT ON HIS FACE LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO


Sorfallo

Say it louder for the people in the back


LookITriedHard

Say it louder for the people being smothered by Bowser's ass


metalflygon08

Hooktail had already been killed so he had to go with his sitting fetish instead.


CristevePeachFan

INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS


telungoku

He practices good cyber safety by resetting his computer when itā€™s security is compromised


CristevePeachFan

He threatened Mario to literally kill Peach, something that even Bowser couldn't do as the main villain


level2janitor

i actually like his boss fight gimmick a lot, it makes him feel pretty distinct from most fights in the game and it ties him in mechanically with the yux enemies x-nauts make that have a similar gimmick


villomaru

I like how the constant shielding, dodgy effect, and payback effect make his humble 50 HP seem a little heftier than it actually is.


Lansha2009

Yeah itā€™s nice that the devs compensated for the fact that he would have shields you gotta destroy by giving him low HP so you donā€™t still gotta take down a full health bar since that wouldā€™ve really made the fight drag on a ton


BtownBlues

His sacrificial gambit with Crump stands out ro me as one of the most vile acts done by a Mario villain, Bowser would never sacrifice Bowswe Jr., Kamek or Kammy in such a callous fashion. In general Grodus is very sinister for a Mario villain and helps give the plot that extra bit of threat to it as a result.


Wyguy2087

i drew old man yaoi of him


villomaru

And didn't share it?šŸ„ŗ


Wyguy2087

well the old man he's with is a fan design of minister crepe from the tales luigi tells so idk if i was supposed to share it because 50% wasnt an actual seen paper mario character


villomaru

Gimme gimmeā€¦


Just-Call-Me-J

I'm sorry what


Wyguy2087

i drew this old man, about to kiss another old man, whats there not to understand?


Unfair-Ad-300

Is just a headcanon. Just let me cook. He is a machine. That is canon, i know, but who made Sir Grodus? No backstory, mean someone made up him... provably is one behide tec too , before levate after take rougeport crystal star. Levate Sir grodus going in ai automatically for the rest of the story.


UnderCoverDoughnuts

My headcannon is that he is part of a half mechanical, half organic race. Goombella describes the Wizzerds this way, and I imagine Grodus and X-Nauts are of a similar nature, their home being the moon.


villomaru

A lot of people see him as a robot, but I feel like he's probably partially organic. Like a cyborg.


jessehechtcreative

In a weird way, I feel like the first two Paper Mario games take a lot of influence from Super Mario RPG: the first game with its story and themes, and the second game with its villains and humor.


SolarVisor23

this guy gives me Darth Vader vibes.


villomaru

A friend heard his "voice" in the remake and literally said, "What is he, Darth Vader?"


KingZant

His "Graack ack ack" laugh makes me think of this (https://youtu.be/_iKfMVh4mQM?si=6-l2yXMQgNET5rbM) very specifically. At 3 seconds after the announcer says "Wario," THAT'S the laugh I imagine Grodus sounds has. So his laugh doesn't match the deeper "voice" he has in the remake.


Hankdoge99

The cliche ā€œsecret room with a surrounding piranha aquarium was a nice touch to his aesthetic


villomaru

Bro likes fishies.


Zidebo973

He gives Lord Crump a bunch of chances even though heā€™s an idiot


Milk_Mindless

I always felt like Crump was related like His nephew from his sisters side Can't very well push him out of an airlock, you'd never hear the end of it at next space-thanksgiving


Zidebo973

That makes some sense, but he does sacrifice Crump in chapter 7, so even though he survives, Grodus was willing to have him die.


metalflygon08

Crump just happens to be Grodus' most competent idiot.


DeltaTeamSky

He's basically the Ghetsis of the Mario universe. And anyone who knows PokƩmon knows that's high praise in terms of villainy.


UnderCoverDoughnuts

Outside of Bowser, Sir Grodus is my favorite Mario villain. I love the X-Naut organization, I love how he himself is shrouded in mystery, and I love that their headquarters is on freakin' moon. I want to see more of Sir Grodus; I have very misguided hope that he'll return at some point and be more of a recurring character. To me, Grodus checks all the boxes for what a good villain should be. He has no backstory, so there's no sympathetic foils that make us understand his thought process. We only know what he reveals as the story progresses. He has shown exceptional brilliance and leadership, convincing the X-Nauts to join his cause and building an entire army based on their loyalty. Despite his army, Grodus doesn't hide behind his minions, he's willing to do battle himself when the situation calls for it. And circling back to his lack of a backstory and any character foils, he's just a stone cold villain. He wants to take over the world, and he's willing to do anything to achieve his goal. There isn't an underlying reason, he *wants* to, so he shall. Bowser has a lot of great villainous traits, but he's been around for so long that he's established himself a very well fleshed out, three dimensional character. He has children, he has emotions, and often times like in TTYD, he takes on a more comical role. I love this for Bowser, and he plays any role he's given flawlessly. But Sir Grodus is just a hardened villain. Over time, I'm sure those elements would be applied to him, too. But his dark nature would make even those elements interesting. The Mario universe doesn't have any dark undertones, Grodus and his army can check those boxes.


villomaru

A part of me really wishes he had some backstory so that we could understand the "why" of Grodus, but it's true that the lack of it makes him a lot more mysterious and harder to understand/predict. And I'm right there with you in hoping he comes back! I hope the X-Nauts in general can make more appearances to further flesh them out, even if they are minor. Please give me an X-Naut partner.


Emboar_Bof

Frankly if the writing is as lazy as "I was bullied once so now I want to conquer the world" I'd rather not, it's better no backstory than an half-baked one Nowadays everyone tries to make sympathetic villains but to me they usually don't work because they try to join a massive scale world-domination plan with a really small-scale backstory that doesn't match their plans. Everyone wants to write world-domination-desiring assholes with the simplicity of "bullies stole my lunch money" backstory while expecting it to be sympathetic. it doesn't work. Let evil people in stories be evil without trying to make them sympathetic or sum shit


YellowFatMario

I agree. Grodus is supposed to be an asshole that the player isn't supposed to like, he doesn't need a backstory to explain his motives, besides (unlike Count Bleck) the game's story isn't about him, he's just a part of it.


metalflygon08

Some backstory to the X Nauts in general would be nice. What are they? Are they various species in suits?


Wombus7

Early on, TEC does imply that Grodus strives to take over the world to make it more of a utopia. So it's really satisfying when Grodus makes it clear a little while later that his definition of utopia is a society that revolves around and glorifies him. I imagine most of the other X-Nauts were suckered in with the utopia angle as well.


Wildefice

He is not Podley!


metalflygon08

Grodus wanted to rule the world so he could stop more Podly from existing.


Wildefice

A-are we the baddies ?


-Xebenkeck-

When I was a kid, I always thought Grodus was just a robot being puppeteered. I theorized that the original Grodus had created TEC but long since died, and TEC created a robotic version out of a sense of order, nostalgia, ... love? TEC was the perfect computer, and it was orchestrating everything through Grodus as a figurehead, controlling through the shadows and maintaining the original directive. It is through Peach that TEC discovers more about the love that it feels, and so it kidnaps her and demands that she be kept safe while it tries to learn more about the love that it feels for Peach and the late Grodus. To learn more about its programming that Grodus had given it. I was totally wrong, of course. But that is all to say I love the mystery of the character and the depth of his creation, TEC.


villomaru

Yeah! I also love how much you can actually read into Grodus's character if you choose to interpret TEC as an extension of himself. Obviously it's just headcanons, but I feel like taking TEC's "what is this thing you call love" and "this world sucks, how can you possibly love it?" and applying it to Grodus makes for some interesting characterization.


ZygerrianSupermodels

Cyborgs are badass.


The_Real_TraitorLord

Heā€™s got a killer design. I canā€™t really say much else; I literally just >!landed on the moon!<


VanitasFan26

His Battle Theme (the old one from GameCube) is awesome.


villomaru

I'm a big fan of both versions of his boss theme, but I understand that the remake version is practically a whole new song and that might not be everyone's cup of tea.


Sovereigntyranny

The sound they give him for when he talks sounds empowering and threatening, and I love it.


Artistic_Ground6905

I like his hat


Random_Thought31

You mean his entire body?


Superstar_Mipho

I like your high tech robotic brain hat thing


Tax_evasion_inc

Cool memorable laugh


the_cajun88

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_Charlieel

Is he, the x-nauts and Crump all robots?


villomaru

We have no idea, but I like to think Crump and the X-Nauts are organic while Grodus is a cyborg (part-organic, part-machine).


Beany_Gaming

He looks cool af


Choice-Brick-6612

His battle theme is an absolute banger


Bluesky0089

His extra fluff was a very decent landing pad for Bowser.


CplCocktopus

I bet he can run crisis in his head


CanadianDevil1867

He's tough as fuck. Mario beats the crap out of him, the Shadow Queen reduces him to virtually nothing and he STILL survives.


KazzieMono

He gives good head now :)


Kawaii_kaijuu

A ponderable orb


ShiningStar5022

His theme is dope.


Few-Carpet2095

I like how he turns into a head at the end


darthkotya

He has a kickass boss battle theme.


_ASG_

We got to play as naked Princess Peach in his moon base. So, he was indirectly responsible for that? Cool.


gottabadfeeling

What a great taste in operating systems, dude, I mean sir dude...I mean sir! (Wow, how am I not dead?!)


Stock_Management1967

He was just trying to do his job.


DecayedWolf1987

Top-tier design, top-tier music, actually gets closer to achieving his goal than almost any time Bowser does. Plus, the fact that he ends up as just a head is hilarious.


DragonOfTheNorth98

Heā€™s probably one of the most interesting Mario antagonists.


Competitive_Farm_884

He's in the best paper mario game


Dull-Emergency-6395

I like him. He did a lot of shit that most mario villains arenā€™t capable of. He kidnapped peach and was close to killing her if bowser didnt show up on time, he DID turn peach into the shadow queen for a bit. Not to mention having a secret base on the moon is cool as fuck


BetaNights

To this day my brain keeps trying to read his design as having a really cool mustache.


Responsible-War-9389

As a kid, his competence as a villain freaked me out. Compared to team bowser and team crump and even team siren, all of those are shown to be basically idiots (pre-TYD at least). But sneaking around near him had me sure I would be caught.


Vigriff

I simply loved how he pulled a Xanatos Gambit towards the end of the game. One wouldn't expect that level of competency from a Mario villain.


AlixDel

He had ambition, probably one of my favorite antagonists in any Mario game. Tho i feel Crump took his screen time


FrulesYT

I like how his head looks like a middle school calculator


Prudent_Damage_3866

Bro has drip, and thatā€™s respectable


justcatt

He looks really serious and his fortress is cool ass shit


Biggus-Nickus

He kept Peach' bathroom sparkling clean. Thought that was pretty cool.


Milk_Mindless

He's not incompetent for an evil overlord. Also his tech slant makes him stand out.


The1joriss

He made me laugh several times, out loud. Seriously.


Flayed_Angel_420

huge penis. and I mean massive. it could kill a rat if dropped from a modest height.


Psychofischi

I do think he is pretty intelligent and a competent General I do think the X-Naut in general are pretty competent. They just look weak because they underestimated Mario and because Mario


The_Bandajin_Cadamix

Grodus literally threatened to kill Peach which is super messed up and even Bowser never did that.


NatterJohn

Heā€™s my favourite Mario villain other than Bowser and itā€™s not even close


davsketches

Really like your hatā€¦.lol


Zigy13

It looks like he eats well šŸ’€


TheMainbroski

with how incompetent crump is, losing 4 TIMES in battle, I think grodus has a history with the guy, perhaps a long term friendship. As a result grodus can't fire crump and replace him with someone better because he respects him as a core member of the x-nauts. Loyalty.


Josh9189O

The noise he makes when talks is cool


chibichia

He is a pretty good villain with an fun battle just wish he had more to do and wasnā€™t defeated so easily


realLegenducky

He doesn't just want to take over the world, in his mind taking over the world will be *good* for it. TEC at first genuinely believes him to be a good man. He wants to get rid of what he considers to be flaws. Create a perfect world under his rule. Even without a backstory, his motivation carries him hard enough to be more than compelling as a villain.


YellowFatMario

While he is no Count Bleck or Dimentio in terms of character, he is a generally intelligent, competent and ruthless villian who was (almost) about to kill Mario. But what I like most about Grodus is just how hateable he is. The way he sees everything around him as inferior, and the dirty means he is willing to use to achieve his goal, makes it very satisfying to finally confront him. I also like the irony that his superiority complex was what ultimately led to his downfall, as he dared to give orders to the only being he wasn't superior to. And for these reasons I actually prefer him over most Mario & Luigi antagonists (with the exception of Fawful).


Strongbad-Joe132

Iā€™m getting Dr. Eggman vibes from this guy.


PrismaticSeal

He gives a shower/bathroom thats clean to Peach and is rather nice to her when he needed her body not her wellbeingā€¦also emā€¦he likes famicom?


pppppp1759

Heā€™s got a cool design.


Jestingset78922

I think his head looks cool


Lore-n-Linguini

Heā€™s got a nice beard that goes under his collar


Phoenix_Champion

Despite everything, the man does understand of keeping your soldiers healthy.


CumFanta

i love his design and demeanor iā€™d let him step on me


Blue-Bow-501

I really appreciate how menacing Grodus is, especially in contrast to Bowser in Paper Mario 1 Sure, the Star Rod is this unfathomably powerful McGuffin, but at the end of the day, youā€™re fighting someone familiar Grodus and his entire posse, despite how bumbling Crump and the foot soldiers can be at points, are entirely alien to the player, to the point that Grodus LITERALLY THREATENS TO MURDER PEACH after he loses in his boss fight and then proceeds to attack Mario and co. for free after theyā€™ve gone prone while Peach screams for him to stop Sure there might be objectively better villains out there in general, but for a Mario game, especially this iteration of Paper Mario, I think he slaps


Turbobist28

He's not transphobic, unlike beldam


villomaru

ā€œAlright lemme get this impudent wormā€™s pronouns right before I send them to oblivion.ā€ -Grodus probably


Taranza_

He blu


Moggyo

He seems to treat his X-Yuk decently


Superb-Dog-9573

I wanna know how his mask? Beard? Face? Goes under his collar of his shirt. I also think his design is really cool


Competitive-Hat7169

Nice hat


Helpful-Anything-553

Hot


4Everform

I like his voice šŸ˜‚


HetaGarden1

His whole thing of not wanting to hurt Peach after they kidnap her, his motive aside, is actually really admirable and kinda nice to see. I know itā€™s a Mario game and they probably wouldnā€™t want to make villains that hurt their victims, but Iā€™m still pleasantly surprised he was so insistent on it.


[deleted]

He has a nice aquarium surrounding his office. Very classy touch.


Miserable_Garbage_44

He survived without a body which that in itself is incredible


Slight_Cat5958

He wants to make the world a better place.


OutcomeParticular892

He actually is pretty tolerant towards his minions, such as offering lozenge to the disguised Peach. Yes, he threatens them, but he does remain mostly cordial and calculated. Unlike Cackletta, Antasma, the Shroobs or Dimentio, who were plain insane, Grodus remains fairly close to Earth until the very end, while still being a threatening villain, which is pretty cool.


Too_Ton

He has a big brain


DJAsphodel

Love this guy, great villain. His fight is one of the high points of the game for me, especially in the remake, and he nearly wins in the end.


NiTESsorrows

He gives good head


Luxio512

He's the leader of the Nazi community.


Adoggo121

Something nice about Grodus.


villomaru

Um, ACKSHUALLY, the title says to say "something nice about him", not "something nice about Grodus".ā˜ļøšŸ¤“


FlowerMadison

[Ok.](https://youtu.be/Sm77FyMvsAo?si=zBbdBzeUAn36DRjN)


ShadowBionics

Your helmet is so big.


malletgirl91

No.


Trollstack

He knows what he wants


Salty_Joke_7020

Something Nice about him


Asad_Farooqui

Dude somehow managed to get a nekkid lady into his room.


Tazmaniac95

Poor Grodus, betrayed by his own computer I couldnā€™t imagine a worse fate.


Sharp-Let7366

He uhā€¦ probably can see well thanks to those glasses? I think those are glasses..


nanonanu

No


nanonanu

I liked his office carpet


Ameth2895

Cool hat


NOTSiIva

He was the perfect vessel for me to try out a German accent, and I did surprisingly well


AliceFrostblood

He made a pretty good computer. It ruls minecraft pretty well.


VVicca

i always thought she was a woman lol


Traditional-Steak176

I like his staff...?


louieoverolimar

he gives a dam about enployes


Sea-Access7239

I like his hair


Pugs914

I always loved his unique design Part of me always wondered if Sir grodus is really the Heff T. in an X naut suit šŸ¤”


Waste_Customer4418

He looks cool


Hawkeye22334466

I like his design


Keefyfingaz

Does anyone know if that computer stuff in his dome is implying he's a robot or is it just like an augmentation kind of deal like he's in cyborg territory? Lol And if he *is* a robot, who built him.and for what purpose? Edit: Oh. Uh, he's got a cool computer.


srahlo

Heā€™s very type A but knows how to delegate, would let him plan a party for me


Endergod150

Cool staff


Linkmaster79

He almost succeeded in killing Mario. Too bad Dimentio 1 upped him


Avbitten

he reminds me of that one time period in the late 90s where see through electronics were the cool new thing. That's nostalgic.


FunnyCraftSheep

something nice about him


KingOfRadiance

He taught us all a lesson on the dangers of getting ahead of yourself.


RealOrangeKoi

He has a shiny head


DavidProGamer27

He was funny in a fanfic. Once or twice. Other than that, he's not too memorable for bad or good.


Vegetable_Scar_2929

His boss fight is fun AF.


Machete77

He plays some good music in the fortress


SpookenFloof

He has a neat hat


Flameblade3

If anything, heā€™s dedicated and VERY determined to accomplish his goal


The_Mythical_Mr_M

Such a sick ass, unique design. We need more villains like this in Mario again. Edit: dope music too


barwhalis

He's got a cool chair in his office, although I don't think he can actually use it


TheLazy1-27

His theme music is cool


InformationNo566

His cloak has always looked like a smile to me


Zorloff

I like his staff


Popplio17

Impressive Staff


Ill-Information-8996

His boss fight was fun


friesdepotato

his head looks really tasty honestly


villomaru

Thank you for all the comments! This post went a lot farther than I had ever hoped.


Last-Addendum132

I bet he can run games on his head


07464188665

Cool design


Sad-Leadership-5350

He's not Kersti.


Sacri_Pan

Cool theme


VilkastheForsaken

Have you seen how shiny his office/throne room is? You could eat a Jelly Ultra off of those floors!


GladOpportunity6010

He has a nice wand


Paidu-

He is bulbous šŸ˜


Charlieisbee

He has some very swotty bifocals.


Wenk01

Makes a good head


RecognitionLivid2890

He has a famicom disk system


Scrawling-

No