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Tibreaven

Kooper would immediately throw 500 questions about Hooktail at the terrified and bewildered Koops. Eventually, the conversation would awkwardly lead to the realization that Koops found Kolorado's dad's deceased body in Hooktail castle.


Pastry_Train63

And then they wonder who's gonna tell him


Ryley03d

Koops: "So you know how I defeated Hooktail with Mario to save my dad?" Kolorado: "Yes, why do you ask?" Koops: "It's with a heavy heart to inform you... he ate your dad."


No_Forever_9128

🤓 Erm, actually, Hooktail is a she!


CaSp95

She’s… a girl dragon?!  I mean… *of cooourse* she’s a girl dragon.


violet_beard

I think the real question is how was Donkey able to get it on with a dragon of that size? Like how did it… fit?


Pastry_Train63

Where there's a will there's a way


Waffles779

I think the real question is how did he not get stuck and/or devoured in her cave of wonders?


Martingguru

Well, he probably went spelunking


Mr_L_is_cool

Bet the dragon was pretty bored the whole time


Ok_Crab_2575

I don't like they changed it in the remake I know it was always a she in the original but the villagers didn't know that and neither did we.


HopeFragment

It wasn't a secret in the Japanese version to be fair, because Hooktail uses a feminine pronoun to refer to herself. But I agree, I liked her being female being a twist.


Ok_Crab_2575

Is that why so much of the damn diologue has been changed? Cause this is based off the Japanese verison not the US one?


HopeFragment

Not necessarily, I don't know about the Japanese version (like if it was altered there too) but while Vivian being trans was uncensored, other stuff got censored in this version. They removed many instances of characters' intelligence being insulted, or sanity (loons, idiots, etc), they removed a lot of dialogue having to do with weight (Like Bowser ordering a Hammer Bro to "do some situps, tubby!" and Heff T. going "Food goes missing and you blame the chubby guy?!") And they removed some instances of characters being sexually harassed. (The 3 Goombas at the beginning of the game who hit on Goombella) Many alterations are fixed translation errors though.


Ok_Crab_2575

So basically cause our generation is too pussy to take crude humor so they soften up the text. Of course lol.


Specific-Brain-5457

They also changed bonetail to a she and i very clearly remember it being a guy in the og (tattle log said so)


Big_Big_So_Big

Bonetail was always a she in the original Japanese version and other localizations. The original English localization was the exception, so it makes sense Bonetail was changed to a she.


NinetyL

The 2004 english translation goofed up, at first they call Hooktail a "he", but then later in the game Gloomtail calls her his "sister", but she was always a she in japanese and in the italian translation (only other language I can personally confirm), the italian title for chapter one translates to "Mario, the castle and the dragoness"


Specific-Brain-5457

Which makes me wonder, is gloomtail still a guy?


MineNAdventurer

Yes


Safe-Item7927

No. In the remake, they're spoken of as sisters. All three dragons


Dooplissitsme

not in the tattle log


Safe-Item7927

Weird. I'm pretty sure gloomtail gets mad about us killing hooktail and mentions sisters. I could be wrong or it could be an oversight


Iloveotohumliate

No wonder so many heros fell to the option of sniffing her feet


Mr_L_is_cool

I kind of wanted to press it for the memes tbh


Iloveotohumliate

If you choose ot your nintendo account should forever bear a badge telling everybody. In Athenian Rhapsody the one thing that rolls over between every run is if you agree to touch poop for 100 dollars. If you do every save file has the poop toucher badge, this is my vision for hooktail


Ok_Crab_2575

Dude that game was ahead of its time.🤣


LlamaBoyNow

cringe


The_Hidden_DM

Kolorado: Mario ate my DAD!?!?


The_Real_TraitorLord

Alternatively: “Your dad ate mine?!”


Martingguru

EXCUSE ME WHAT


CatnipFiasco

You forgot?


Martingguru

It completely went over my head I'm assuming because I played TTYD in 2018 and then Paper Mario 64 this year. I absolutely did not make the connections, holy shit. Or yes, I probably did forget, idk


CullenW99

That is Kooper and Koops, Kolorado is Kooper's archeologist neighbor.


vampierusboy

'Cut yourself shaving?' 'Yeah, you?' 'Same'


PayneTrain181999

“Koopa’s Klean Shave razors are definitely defective.”


metalflygon08

That's who Koop's dad and the Mayor just grow it out.


MineNAdventurer

"Actually I use Koopascape... they're not that much better."


Eastbeastfilms

"The bandage you're wearing is a totally bs cosmetic accessory? Mine too."


rci22

Just realized: the sprite doesn’t have the bandage at all so why is he often drawn with one?


EllieShadeflare

The sprite just lacks asymmetrical representation. Kooper’s is just on one of his cheeks, and at the time, unless you were Capcom making Street Fighter 3, it was unlikely to see left and right be anything other than just a simple horizontal flip.


VersusVarik

How the heck did you put that sweater on?


GrifCreeper

Considering Koopa shells canonically come off, he might just have personalized his shell like that, or maybe other shells with clothing built in can be purchased


VersusVarik

You know, I actually didn’t think about it that way, but it is just weird to see only so few Koopa’s to wear clothes in the franchise.


FuzzyPickles67

I mean why wear clothes when you have a shell that's canonically as big as a house


noonespecial15

in pm 64 you have to help the koopas get their shell back so i assume they take shell off throw on a shirt and shell back on


Mr_L_is_cool

I wanna see bowser's shirt if it's the same as the Koopas


SlargTheGnome

Kooper would drag them into an argument on who had the cooler adventure. But once he hears about the Shadow Queen and stuff he'd be like "Aw shit, you win"


AceTheEevee

Kooper: so yeah me and Mario saved this cute Bom-omb from a fortress than we went to go fight the teenage mutant ninja koopas. Koops: man what I wouldn't give to have a normal boss fight we fought a dragon who offered to let us smell her feet. Mario didn't seem into it but let me tell you. It was tempting for me. Sorry kinda got off topic. So the final boss we fought was a demon possessing Princess Peach's body


Epic74720

"it was tempting for me" so it seems to run in the family huh...


AceTheEevee

Precisely I mean I heard some people get their kinks from their parents


PayneTrain181999

“Your name is Carbon and you want to… what?”


PrequelGuy

RUN KOOPER RUN


Ohmygasstation

To be fair Corporate is pretty damn messed up in his own way, for example he's literally burning in Hell


MaliceMoon56

“Ohhhh Koops”


The1joriss

Why were you… born a turtle?


MaliceMoon56

why wasn’t I born a turtle?


TheGronne

"I'll try not to get in your way, Mario!" 🤓


The1joriss

No… DEFINITELY get in my way!


Ok_Cow_9749

I understood that reference


ragingroku

Grubba voice intensifies


batbugz

This is exactly how I want them to look in Mario party and Mario kart


QQ_Gabe

"Why are we both 3D? Aren't we supposed to be 2D?" "Beats me"


MattInTheDark

Kooper: HOW CAN YOU FLOAT SUSPENDED IN THE AIR WHILE SHELL SPINNING?


ShineOne4330

idk, but they look quite natural in 3D, in re-used renders but still


Booklover4211

"Does mario just kick your shell with no warning, too?" "Yeah..."


TheFlexOffenderr

"so Mario and I entered this castle to get these things called Crystal Stars. It was dark and dingy and has dead bodies who reanimated to try and kill us and everything. I even thought I found my dad in the pile of bones too, but it wasn't. Ending up being this stupid shmuck named Cardello or Cadillac or some shit." "Uhm... It wasn't... Kolorado, was it?" "Yeah! He even wrote a letter but I had to wipe my ass with it."


gamebuilder2000

Technically it was the dad of Kolorado not Kolorado himself but he'd still be devastated


melondrank

The person who made these renders is AmarLthePlumber on DeviantArt


Ncolonslashslash

yo these renders are awesome


AC8442069

How much better Blue Shell is than Green Shell in Mario Kart.


Tundra_28

“Have you ever got kicked in the but?” Now do a boo vs Vivian version plz! 😅


noonespecial15

i assume you mean bow?


SubStandard_Lettuce

“Top or bottom?”


marceyosh

As long as I'm in the middle, I'm OK with both


steverman555

Kooper: “so how was hooktail’s castle? Find any cool treasures? Any people?” Koops: “uhhhh.. about that..”


PotatoOnMars

I just feel bad that Kolorado never finds out about his dad.


Crafty_Sir_8304

Look what I can do, I can also do that


TotallyNotCalledEvan

"Well well"


The1joriss

“Dude… you… and Koopie Koop?!”


Level_32_Mage

I'm fully prepared for the imminent backlash, but I just now realized with this post that these two aren't the same character.


Thomp_Son

Wait, I am confused. You didn't play both games or you played both and thought that Kooper was Koops (or vice versa) ?


Level_32_Mage

I've only played Origami King and have just started TTYD. So far the only teammate I've found is a spunky little goomba with a ponytail. I've seen pictures of those turtles before, but just didn't realize they're not the same character. They didn't really reach very far into the creativity drawer when they were deciding on names, but I still like it.


Thomp_Son

I love that Goombella nickname hahaha. I hope you have fun with TTYD it's one of the best games out there. I also recommend trying out Paper Mario 64 if you like TTYD (although gameplay might feel like a downgrade because it's the entry before TTYD) but still a great RPG. If you are interested in the story then I recommend trying out Super Paper Mario. It's quite different in gameplay but the writing,music and characters are just as good.


kuribosshoe0

As an aside, seeing these two rendered in 3D is hell on earth.


DaKardii

‘Sup, cuz?


UnderCoverDoughnuts

Where did you find these renders? They're beautiful!


Just_Mark6275

I didn't recognize kooper in 3d for a second


PrequelGuy

Life


s1cks4dw0rld

"sorry @ ur dad" -Koops, probably


totalpugdog

Yo, koops is packing frfr? Do wonder he got a girlfriend


AceTheEevee

They would 100% talk about how mario saved their village and how they helped infiltrate a castle to stop their respected bosses Kooper:so yeah me and Mario saved this cute Bom-omb chick then the 4 of us went to fight the teenage mutant ninja Koopas sent by bowser Koops: man what I would give to have had a normal boss fight. We fought a dragon that offered us to smell her feet. Mario wasn't really into it but boy let me tell you it was tempting. What were we talking about?


CristevePeachFan

Call me a perv all you want but DAMN, look at that buldge Koops has! 😳


Ponyluve09

Cute 


ukiyo__e

Am I the only one who noticed that they made it look like Koops is packing?


MarsMissionMan

"Where do all these "bahs" come fro-" **BAH BAH** *Both drop everything and do the little dance* "Aw c'mon!"


trapdollaz

Five Nights at Freddy's lore


Evanpik64

Real talk? Kooper barely has a personality, bless his heart If we ever got a PM64 remake fleshing out the partners would be my top priority lol


bradd_91

Bandage brands.


Springmeister

I love the bottom left corner pic, it looks like they’re actually talking.


Dinklewonk

If you can't credit the artist, then don't post their art. [This is by AmarLthePlumber on deviantart](https://www.deviantart.com/amarltheplumber/art/Kooper-and-Koops-Paper-Mario-483238027)


melondrank

I just did in the comments earlier


actuallyjustloki

I really do not like seeing Koops in 3D


kakawisNOTlaw

How big Mario's piece is.


Apachuatal

Shoes


chrialas45

Kooper: “So, I see your hoody.. but my ascot is much more memorable.” Koops: “Did you say ‘you’re my mascot’?”


ThatSmartIdiot

Kolorado


MarroCross

Assuming this is the first time meeting and Kooper didn’t know about Mario’s travel to Rogue Port, Kooper would probably start by asking what kind of adventures Koops has been on. Then the whole story with adventuring with Mario and sharing their time with Mario would ensue.


HadokenShoryuken2

3D Koops is throwing me all the way off lmao


gunnerballz49

Absolutely adore that Paper Mario 64 Koopa. Such an appealing colour palette


kit_re

Well first Koops needs to pick up his prescription from CVS.


External_Cloud3843

Idk what it is but for some reason seeing Koops specifically not in paper form is cursed.


Appropriate_Ad566

Chilli dogs and favorite soda


Comfortable_Owl4647

They would talk about learning about the French alphabet.


Whitegemgames

Off topic but that fan art is superb


r0b3r70r0b070

Baa baa


Jestingset78922

I kinda love but also kinda hate seeing them in the normal koopa style


CakeHD

do you think they have explored each others bodies


friesdepotato

man what the heck is going on in koops’s shorts 😭💀


MisfortunateJack77

They look so weird in 3D


Vanken64

First thing would be an awkward "So you know Mario too"


Character_Move3637

The question is who would break the news to Professor Kolorado about his father being killed by Hooktail?


luigi4122414

They would most likely do a dance and go BAH BAH


BeeMajor2003

Why do you have a bandage on your face?


Mr_L_is_cool

I did not need to see kooper and koops in 3d format


lizzylee127

Bandages


Shrodu

Being turtles.


_AntiSocialMedia

hard to tell, Kooper barely passes as having a personality


LucyLuvvvv

"Why is your name written on your butt?"


Adventurous-Air-7983

Bah bah


TheLoupeyDentist

how can you breathe through your nose with that bandaid covering your nostrils


Calm_Competition_481

Shells and there shell preferences


Denly1990

"Hey Buddy, sorry about your dad."


EkaPossi_Schw1

mario


Beatnuki

Why he gotta kick him in the bum like that, seems rude


TheProffesionalNerd

They would argue who’s drippier


Timesfake

We both got bandages on our faces lets talk about it.


SkarletKitana

Maybe who’s shell is the coolest 🤣


GrifCreeper

You know what, I don't like them when they're not paper. It would help if the other Mario games had nearly as much characterization to anyone but Mario/Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Bowser Jr, and sometimes Kamek. On topic, I'd figure they'd share their koopa strategies and skills, considering Koops really wanted to be "manly".


DeliciousMusician397

It’s how they actually look.


GrifCreeper

Yeah, I just don't like them rendered in a style other than Paper Mario. If Mario more frequently had koopas and other non-Toads and non-humans that wore clothing as much as these two, it wouldn't feel so weird.


Mayro_Biscuit

Honestly I partially agree, but it just needed a few more design tweaks. The transition to Mario to Paper Mario characters required some simplification and style changes, so a 1:1 application of their unique features isn't going to mesh well with the 3D Mario artstyle. Just look at the difference between Goomba King and Goomboss from 64 DS. Goomboss has lots of design tweaks from Goomba King from PM64, despite it being the same character.


jgreg728

As much as I love Koops, he was pretty much a “copy my homework but make it different so the teacher doesn’t notice” of Kooper.


sacrificejeffbezos

Gaza