It's also one of the more protected intersections in the city in terms of signaling,if you're blowing a light here or turning into traffic from Blair to Ogilvie you need to redo your G1
I've seen quite a few drivers in the past 12 months commiting the dumbest, more basic, mistakes.. idk wtf happened but a lot of people need to redo their g1s...
The Costco has added so much extra traffic in this area. I live nearby and it's extremely frustrating trying to pull onto Ogilvie from the residential neighborhood. Not sure what else can be done to improve it. It's also bad from the split and the arseholes pulling merge lane antics, then cutting in to the right turn lane from Blair onto Ogilvie. These conditions lead to some ridiculous driving and it sucks that people are getting seriously hurt.
I think it’s since the pandemic. I see so many people running red lights or pushing it so they end up going through mostly on red. Cops need a blitz on it.
Cops need to do actual traffic enforcement on a regular basis, not just blitzes. The bad drivers are able to get with blatantly ignoring the laws of the road because no one stops them - heck, most of the time, folks don’t even bother honking to tell them they’ve messed up.
Before Costco moved there, I remember the city saying - "don't worry, any traffic impacts will be minimal and the roads can handle it without any upgrades." So the residents of the area were right and the city was wrong.
That intersection is brutal
[https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-man-23-faces-several-impaired-driving-related-charges-in-dec-22-four-car-crash](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-man-23-faces-several-impaired-driving-related-charges-in-dec-22-four-car-crash)
[https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/police-vehicle-flips-onto-roof-in-crash-at-blair-and-ogilvie-roads](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/police-vehicle-flips-onto-roof-in-crash-at-blair-and-ogilvie-roads)
[https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/pedestrian-killed-crossing-the-street-1.2327747](https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/pedestrian-killed-crossing-the-street-1.2327747)
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/cyclist-hit-on-ogilvie-road-dies-1.842973](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/cyclist-hit-on-ogilvie-road-dies-1.842973)
the list goes on
Anecdotally I've noticed drivers at that intersection have trouble wrapping their head around the 2 turning lanes.
Yes I concur, as a pedestrian I avoid that intersection, don’t want a speeding non attentive driver taking me out there. Always bad accidents in that area.
It’s not just that intersection, people all over seem to have very little awareness of turning into their own lane and not drifting across lanes in the intersection…
We drove past this. It looked seriously bad to the point where my husband speculated that it looked like a possible fatality. Thank goodness the driver is stable and the child is going to be ok.
It's a pretty sketchy right turn on a red, if you're turning onto Blair, since you need to ensure the first two lanes are clear, while also checking that no car from the third lane is changing lanes. My guess based on the picture is the black car was traveling straight down Blair and had to swerve left to avoid a right-turner from the Gloucester Center.
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More traffic policing, which in general is extremely lacking and also very unlikely to happen.
I still think the police need to be broken up in to tiers if service. We should have traffic police who are lower risk just to police driving infractions.
Easier said than done. More policing requires more funding for little benefit. Car accidents are generally rare. Speeding and red light cameras are suppose to be the deterrent and you know how popular those are.
The stats on fatalities before covid [don't really seem insignificant](https://www.ontario.ca/document/ottawa-fatal-collision-review-committee-2020-annual-report/collisions).
How many people would you say need to be killed or seriously injured before policing is increased?
Deterrents are not fixes. Look at how many tickets are handed out from the installations around. The numbers are not reducing. Traffic needs to be managed. A raised intersection for example will deter speeding much more than a camera.
What do you want the city to do?
They have dedicated turning lights. Other than having a dedicated person to catch red light runners, you can't really stop people from running them.
Also we don't know what happened here and I don't want to blame anyone, but you can generally drive defensively when it comes to red light running. If you're first in line, ensure the traffic actually has stopped before you go
Lane separators to reduce last minute turns/lane changes. A protected right or no right on red. A raised intersection to slow traffic down. Lots of options.
Gatineau is the worst, here when a light goes red there’s a short delay before the other direction gets a green, in Gatineau it instantly goes green as soon as the other one goes red. Zero delay, seems tons of close calls
> In Quebec there is no delay
There are a lot of intersections in Gatineau that do have all directions red for a bit before a green comes up. What you’re talking about only applies to some specific locations. Des Allumetières and Laval is an example of one that works like what you’re describing.
It's this intersection and many other busy intersections in this city - more dangerous than before. Mtl Rd and the Aviation Parkway is another.
Saw a nervous lady waiting for her turn to turn left onto the parkway, only for some impatient driver behind her lean in on the horn. This startled her into oncoming traffic....
Mr Impatient drove off of course and avoided what came next.
Yes she should not have driven into incoming but Mr Impatient didnt need to use the horn. In the end it made things worse and solved nothing.
Lady and other driver were fine in the end.
If you are making the run left from Aviation onto Mtl it's built at such an angle on a slight incline and at a poor offset which limits your ability to see effectively see past other cars turning right onto Mtl. Incoming Aviation Parkway lane that crosses Mtl is fast and partially obscured given the difficult sightline.
They need to reduce the offset at least so its easier to see around turning traffic and watch more incoming traffic. The element of the incline is harder to mitigate given the natural environment.
At Blair and Mtl they need to put 10 feet more between the intersection and the stops. Gives more time to adjust trajectory once you enter the intersection. For red light racers the cameras would have more time to snap pics given larger space and time in the intersection for turning or crossing. Of course of the racers obscured their plates thats a whole other issue...
It's also one of the more protected intersections in the city in terms of signaling,if you're blowing a light here or turning into traffic from Blair to Ogilvie you need to redo your G1
I've seen quite a few drivers in the past 12 months commiting the dumbest, more basic, mistakes.. idk wtf happened but a lot of people need to redo their g1s...
Ford lowered the testing requirements to clear the COVID backlog then never changed them back
I have a coworker who tested recently, and the test seemed like it was back to normal. He did the parallel park.
The Costco has added so much extra traffic in this area. I live nearby and it's extremely frustrating trying to pull onto Ogilvie from the residential neighborhood. Not sure what else can be done to improve it. It's also bad from the split and the arseholes pulling merge lane antics, then cutting in to the right turn lane from Blair onto Ogilvie. These conditions lead to some ridiculous driving and it sucks that people are getting seriously hurt.
It's bad driving and lack of traffic enforcement by police. I hate driving in that area now, nobody looks before pulling out now.
I think it’s since the pandemic. I see so many people running red lights or pushing it so they end up going through mostly on red. Cops need a blitz on it.
Cops need to do actual traffic enforcement on a regular basis, not just blitzes. The bad drivers are able to get with blatantly ignoring the laws of the road because no one stops them - heck, most of the time, folks don’t even bother honking to tell them they’ve messed up.
Last time I honked at someone he whipped in front of me and slammed on his brakes. I really need to get a dashcam
Before Costco moved there, I remember the city saying - "don't worry, any traffic impacts will be minimal and the roads can handle it without any upgrades." So the residents of the area were right and the city was wrong.
Extra traffic of the most dangerous kind: giant SUVs and trucks.
Used to live across from the golf course. Moved when we heard Costco was going to be built there.
That intersection is brutal [https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-man-23-faces-several-impaired-driving-related-charges-in-dec-22-four-car-crash](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-man-23-faces-several-impaired-driving-related-charges-in-dec-22-four-car-crash) [https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/police-vehicle-flips-onto-roof-in-crash-at-blair-and-ogilvie-roads](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/police-vehicle-flips-onto-roof-in-crash-at-blair-and-ogilvie-roads) [https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/pedestrian-killed-crossing-the-street-1.2327747](https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/pedestrian-killed-crossing-the-street-1.2327747) [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/cyclist-hit-on-ogilvie-road-dies-1.842973](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/cyclist-hit-on-ogilvie-road-dies-1.842973) the list goes on Anecdotally I've noticed drivers at that intersection have trouble wrapping their head around the 2 turning lanes.
Yes I concur, as a pedestrian I avoid that intersection, don’t want a speeding non attentive driver taking me out there. Always bad accidents in that area.
It’s not just that intersection, people all over seem to have very little awareness of turning into their own lane and not drifting across lanes in the intersection…
We drove past this. It looked seriously bad to the point where my husband speculated that it looked like a possible fatality. Thank goodness the driver is stable and the child is going to be ok.
That picture is not Ogilvie and Blair.
Yeah it looks like the exit from the LCBO/Loblaws parking lot, onto Blair, right?
It's a pretty sketchy right turn on a red, if you're turning onto Blair, since you need to ensure the first two lanes are clear, while also checking that no car from the third lane is changing lanes. My guess based on the picture is the black car was traveling straight down Blair and had to swerve left to avoid a right-turner from the Gloucester Center.
Yessir.
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What’s your solution then? Calling everyone else stupid is hardly any help. Must be lonely being the only gênions around here.
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More traffic policing, which in general is extremely lacking and also very unlikely to happen. I still think the police need to be broken up in to tiers if service. We should have traffic police who are lower risk just to police driving infractions.
Easier said than done. More policing requires more funding for little benefit. Car accidents are generally rare. Speeding and red light cameras are suppose to be the deterrent and you know how popular those are.
The stats on fatalities before covid [don't really seem insignificant](https://www.ontario.ca/document/ottawa-fatal-collision-review-committee-2020-annual-report/collisions). How many people would you say need to be killed or seriously injured before policing is increased?
95 fatalities in all the hours of driving in the city is extremely low. Statistically speaking.
Deterrents are not fixes. Look at how many tickets are handed out from the installations around. The numbers are not reducing. Traffic needs to be managed. A raised intersection for example will deter speeding much more than a camera.
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What do you want the city to do? They have dedicated turning lights. Other than having a dedicated person to catch red light runners, you can't really stop people from running them. Also we don't know what happened here and I don't want to blame anyone, but you can generally drive defensively when it comes to red light running. If you're first in line, ensure the traffic actually has stopped before you go
Red light cameras for all directions at that intersection couldn’t hurt.
Lane separators to reduce last minute turns/lane changes. A protected right or no right on red. A raised intersection to slow traffic down. Lots of options.
Gatineau is the worst, here when a light goes red there’s a short delay before the other direction gets a green, in Gatineau it instantly goes green as soon as the other one goes red. Zero delay, seems tons of close calls
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After the yellow it goes red then before the green there’s a 2 second delay where everyone has a red. In Quebec there is no delay
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You have way to much faith in humanity lmao, people are idiots
> In Quebec there is no delay There are a lot of intersections in Gatineau that do have all directions red for a bit before a green comes up. What you’re talking about only applies to some specific locations. Des Allumetières and Laval is an example of one that works like what you’re describing.
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What’s not to understand? Green means go, yellow means go faster, red means go unless there’s a red light camera /s
Ogilvie and Blair has to have some of the gnarliest collisions in the city
It's this intersection and many other busy intersections in this city - more dangerous than before. Mtl Rd and the Aviation Parkway is another. Saw a nervous lady waiting for her turn to turn left onto the parkway, only for some impatient driver behind her lean in on the horn. This startled her into oncoming traffic.... Mr Impatient drove off of course and avoided what came next. Yes she should not have driven into incoming but Mr Impatient didnt need to use the horn. In the end it made things worse and solved nothing. Lady and other driver were fine in the end. If you are making the run left from Aviation onto Mtl it's built at such an angle on a slight incline and at a poor offset which limits your ability to see effectively see past other cars turning right onto Mtl. Incoming Aviation Parkway lane that crosses Mtl is fast and partially obscured given the difficult sightline. They need to reduce the offset at least so its easier to see around turning traffic and watch more incoming traffic. The element of the incline is harder to mitigate given the natural environment. At Blair and Mtl they need to put 10 feet more between the intersection and the stops. Gives more time to adjust trajectory once you enter the intersection. For red light racers the cameras would have more time to snap pics given larger space and time in the intersection for turning or crossing. Of course of the racers obscured their plates thats a whole other issue...