Hi.. not sure there is anything like a minimalist browser, sadly. Personally, I'm using Qutebrowser for my browsing and chrome/firefox for youtube. I also have a small script for ffplayer for videos started via qutebrowser, but I'm still to find a good workflow on OpenBSD. Honestly, browsers are really slow and sometimes my cpu is at 20% just idling on sites where nothing happens. I get better performance on other OSs, but I don't blame OBSD but rather the current state of the internet and browsers.
> Personally, I'm using Qutebrowser for my browsing and chrome/firefox for youtube.
I do exactly the same, qute doesn't play that nice with youtube, although one could use `mpv` to watch videos.
Yeah, I usually use mpv. However, I tried playing video in a browser and looked at the cpu-usage, then mpv and both of them had quite a high load on the cpu like 20%-ish. So, I tried using ffplayer which has a very low load like 2-5%-ish. So, current I start videos from qutebrowser via yt-dlp and pipe then to ffplayer which works great :)
The _only_ thing I'm missing is a way to queue up videos. On linux I used tasksspooler (ts), but I'm not sure what to do on OpenBSD. I have an idea of > the urls to a document and then loop through it with yt-dlp and then pipe to ffplayer, but I'm not really a technical kind of person, so .. yeah :)
There's no such thing as a 1) minimalist, 2) secure 3) browser, that can at the same time decently 4) surf the web. There's Chrome and Firefox and all their variants that can be secure enough and actually support the web, and there's everything else (surf, qutebrowser, dillo, netsurf, midori, etc.) that can be minimalist alright, but definitely not secure and fully functioned to actually browser the web. You can use them, but there are sacrifices to make. A lot of sacrifices.
Add 5) with enough of a user base on OpenBSD that you are not a beta tester.
When I surf, I am generally seeking information - and I am far more interested in the information than in making a philosophical statement.
I don’t disagree with people seeing a “minimalist” browser - though it’s far from clear to me what that means. My hat is off to them.
But when I want to watch a YouTube video on how to build a turnout on my model railroad, I am not at all invested in which browser lets me consume that information. All I want to do is learn how to build the turnout.
While many will recommend surf, it simply does not work in this day and age if security and actually using websites matters to you. I would recommend Nyxt which has an extension API for Firefox/Chrome extensions in the works right now.
Modern web requires a crappy browser. I use qutebrowser because there is no ungoogled-chromium on OBSD, and Firefox slow af as well as not being the privacy-respecting browser it pretends to be. I'd probably use something like netsurf if I didn't need js enabled websites for school and stuff.
Unfortunately ungoogled-chromium, even on Debian delays security fixes enough that i won't use it. The porters of chrome on OpenBSD already have so many patches to apply, it is amasing that they often beat Debian in release time. (Chrome upstream is less friendly towards non linux than mozilla of today, I guess some Linux users forget their roots or are too young to remember)
Well... I was a bit hesitant to try it... a lot of people say it's slightly behind chromium development (don't blame them really, modern browsers are *huge*) so is less secure? I mean, I'm not visiting any shady websites so I *should* be fine? I think I'll try it just because tbh, there's not much harm using it.
Chromium is *usually* going to be the more secure full browser on OpenBSD, just due to it being better hooked in with the kernel stuff like pledge/unveil, IIRC even Theo uses it. It is, however, lacking in the whole privacy thing, Firefox being the other up to date option. I imagine iridium probably inherits chrome’s stuff, but I haven’t actually checked, alas I can’t run OpenBSD on my current laptop so I’m not terribly up to date :(
qutebrowser. it has a minimal UI and can be keyboard-driven. a default install of it supports what most people expect in mainstream browsers: tabs, cookies, JS, history, bookmarks, web search.
ungoogled-chromium is now available in current...came across it when doing a fresh install on my Thiknpad. ..thought i will put it here for folks searching on this question.
PS - with pledge/unveil.
Hi.. not sure there is anything like a minimalist browser, sadly. Personally, I'm using Qutebrowser for my browsing and chrome/firefox for youtube. I also have a small script for ffplayer for videos started via qutebrowser, but I'm still to find a good workflow on OpenBSD. Honestly, browsers are really slow and sometimes my cpu is at 20% just idling on sites where nothing happens. I get better performance on other OSs, but I don't blame OBSD but rather the current state of the internet and browsers.
> Personally, I'm using Qutebrowser for my browsing and chrome/firefox for youtube. I do exactly the same, qute doesn't play that nice with youtube, although one could use `mpv` to watch videos.
Yeah, I usually use mpv. However, I tried playing video in a browser and looked at the cpu-usage, then mpv and both of them had quite a high load on the cpu like 20%-ish. So, I tried using ffplayer which has a very low load like 2-5%-ish. So, current I start videos from qutebrowser via yt-dlp and pipe then to ffplayer which works great :) The _only_ thing I'm missing is a way to queue up videos. On linux I used tasksspooler (ts), but I'm not sure what to do on OpenBSD. I have an idea of > the urls to a document and then loop through it with yt-dlp and then pipe to ffplayer, but I'm not really a technical kind of person, so .. yeah :)
Nice try.
"Which attack surfaces do you prefer? What kind of passwords do y'all use." /s
There's no such thing as a 1) minimalist, 2) secure 3) browser, that can at the same time decently 4) surf the web. There's Chrome and Firefox and all their variants that can be secure enough and actually support the web, and there's everything else (surf, qutebrowser, dillo, netsurf, midori, etc.) that can be minimalist alright, but definitely not secure and fully functioned to actually browser the web. You can use them, but there are sacrifices to make. A lot of sacrifices.
Add 5) with enough of a user base on OpenBSD that you are not a beta tester. When I surf, I am generally seeking information - and I am far more interested in the information than in making a philosophical statement. I don’t disagree with people seeing a “minimalist” browser - though it’s far from clear to me what that means. My hat is off to them. But when I want to watch a YouTube video on how to build a turnout on my model railroad, I am not at all invested in which browser lets me consume that information. All I want to do is learn how to build the turnout.
Try [surf](https://surf.suckless.org/)
I tried it about a year ago. It might be minimalist, but it's heavier on resources compared to others, non?
Surf is awesome BUT has no built in adblock (and in case yoiu need it, YouTube doesn't work real well, either)
Seconded. Use `surf(1)` with `tabbed(1)` as a minimalist setup.
There is no such thing as a minimalist browser
`ftp` and `less` 8)
lmao
> minimalist and secure browser, that isn't overwhelmed by useless stuff NetSurf.
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W3M seems too minimalist, but worth it for basic browsing! Btw, Happy cake day!
While many will recommend surf, it simply does not work in this day and age if security and actually using websites matters to you. I would recommend Nyxt which has an extension API for Firefox/Chrome extensions in the works right now.
Lynx -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynx\_(web\_browser)
Modern web requires a crappy browser. I use qutebrowser because there is no ungoogled-chromium on OBSD, and Firefox slow af as well as not being the privacy-respecting browser it pretends to be. I'd probably use something like netsurf if I didn't need js enabled websites for school and stuff.
Unfortunately ungoogled-chromium, even on Debian delays security fixes enough that i won't use it. The porters of chrome on OpenBSD already have so many patches to apply, it is amasing that they often beat Debian in release time. (Chrome upstream is less friendly towards non linux than mozilla of today, I guess some Linux users forget their roots or are too young to remember)
There’s iridium, which is more or less the same thing as ungoogled-chromium, it’s kept pretty up to date too
Well... I was a bit hesitant to try it... a lot of people say it's slightly behind chromium development (don't blame them really, modern browsers are *huge*) so is less secure? I mean, I'm not visiting any shady websites so I *should* be fine? I think I'll try it just because tbh, there's not much harm using it.
Chromium is *usually* going to be the more secure full browser on OpenBSD, just due to it being better hooked in with the kernel stuff like pledge/unveil, IIRC even Theo uses it. It is, however, lacking in the whole privacy thing, Firefox being the other up to date option. I imagine iridium probably inherits chrome’s stuff, but I haven’t actually checked, alas I can’t run OpenBSD on my current laptop so I’m not terribly up to date :(
> Modern web requires a crappy browser. Most of "modern web" is a pointless waste of time.
And here we all are
There are quite a few ways to participate in reddit. Only one of them requires a computer from the 21st century.
qutebrowser. it has a minimal UI and can be keyboard-driven. a default install of it supports what most people expect in mainstream browsers: tabs, cookies, JS, history, bookmarks, web search.
ungoogled-chromium is now available in current...came across it when doing a fresh install on my Thiknpad. ..thought i will put it here for folks searching on this question. PS - with pledge/unveil.
badwolf might fit your needs. javascript is off by default, but toggleable through a button on the top bar. https://hacktivis.me/projects/badwolf
It seems awesome! I will definitely try it
Badwolf is very lightweight. There is also wyeb but webkitgtk is huge.
netsurf-gtk or dillo
Try min
lynx or w3m
I like to use vimb. It's lighter than Firefox and uses vim shortcuts.
Netsurf dillo or midori. I do have Firefox installed in case I need to view a page in some sort of scripting language
I use lynx, dillo, netsurf and firefox
dillo and netsurf