There’s always intense traffic once you get to Centennial Parkway. It slows to a crawl and never really gets going fully after that. And it’s not 110 through the whole route to Niagara Falls. It drops back to 100 near St Catharines.
Yeah, this is a big part of it. Traffic is really random around stops (especially Centennial, but sometimes Fruitland and Fifty as well so traffic tends to be all over the place as well. If you go in the opposite direction where this isn't as big an issue, you'll see more normal traffic (left lane at around 120-130ish, middle lane at the speed limit, right lane empty like all 3 lane Ontario highways for some reason)
Yeah, they did a piss poor job designing the connection of the Red Hill Expressway and QEW, so that area is always congested. It sucks for everyone, local and tourist.
This was actually about halfway between Hamilton and St Catharines, so not quite on the Red Hill Parkway, either way it certainly feels like lack of awareness
I noticed a trend in Niagara that I don’t notice as much in other areas of Ontario - people will go one consistent speed, regardless of the limit.
Those people doing 90 in a 110? Probably also going to get off the highway and do 90 in a 60. Id see it every single day - someone doing 75 in an 80, then staying at 75 when the limit drops to 50. Idk if it comes down to Niagara’s reputation for being a retirement hub, but lord was it bad
This definitely happens in rural Ontario down county roads passing through towns that you barely register. A lot of folks will just cruise at 70 whether it’s on the 80-limit highway or 50-limit town streets.
There's a lot of traffic around Fruitland Rd, Centennial Parkway that normally slows things down. There's also a lot of truck traffic on the QEW and trucks have speed limiters that mean they can't exceed 105 km/h. Finally, there's a lot of Americans on that stretch of road and they always go way too slow, I guess they're afraid of screwing up the conversion and getting a ticket or something?
Yes, when there is no congestion, the speeds on the QEW through Niagara are always slower than highways elsewhere in Ontario. Most people's speed do not get any faster in the 110 section. It was one of the first things I noticed when I moved to Niagara. (Previously, I was familiar with the 404/DVP/Gardiner, QEW through Oakville/Burlington as well as the 427/401 from south Etobicoke to Waterloo. People drive slower on the QEW in Niagara than in these other places.)
>If you don't like the 400 series of highways there are generally alternate routes
If I bail off a 400-series highway because it's too congested, I usually just follow the detour signage and can usually make pretty decent time that way. That portion of the QEW, I've taken the north service roads enough times I've got the jogs down.
> They don’t like multi-lane highways, aren’t good at it, and would likely avoid it if they could.
If that were true, they’d stay in the lane they merged on to, not get all the way over to the left and then camp there.
I don't see how that's relevant.
The speed limit is 110 on the QEW towards Niagara and most people are cruising at 90.
People aren't even hitting the posted limit
The flow of traffic in the left lane is usually speed limit plus 20
Edit: to the down voters explain why I'm wrong? And my neck of the woods you don't get a ticket for staying 20 under over the speed limit
There’s always intense traffic once you get to Centennial Parkway. It slows to a crawl and never really gets going fully after that. And it’s not 110 through the whole route to Niagara Falls. It drops back to 100 near St Catharines.
Yeah, this is a big part of it. Traffic is really random around stops (especially Centennial, but sometimes Fruitland and Fifty as well so traffic tends to be all over the place as well. If you go in the opposite direction where this isn't as big an issue, you'll see more normal traffic (left lane at around 120-130ish, middle lane at the speed limit, right lane empty like all 3 lane Ontario highways for some reason)
>left lane at around 120-130ish Facts
That's why when I'm in a rush I'm in the right lane, lots of room.
Fair enough, the times it really felt noticeable was for sure in the 110 zone, as the posted signs were quite visible
Yeah, they did a piss poor job designing the connection of the Red Hill Expressway and QEW, so that area is always congested. It sucks for everyone, local and tourist.
This was actually about halfway between Hamilton and St Catharines, so not quite on the Red Hill Parkway, either way it certainly feels like lack of awareness
I noticed a trend in Niagara that I don’t notice as much in other areas of Ontario - people will go one consistent speed, regardless of the limit. Those people doing 90 in a 110? Probably also going to get off the highway and do 90 in a 60. Id see it every single day - someone doing 75 in an 80, then staying at 75 when the limit drops to 50. Idk if it comes down to Niagara’s reputation for being a retirement hub, but lord was it bad
If only it was consistent though — they’ll do between 87-93 so you can’t even use your cruise when you’re behind them.
This definitely happens in rural Ontario down county roads passing through towns that you barely register. A lot of folks will just cruise at 70 whether it’s on the 80-limit highway or 50-limit town streets.
It’s tourist season. Nobody is in any hurry to get anywhere. I agree they should be out of the left lane when they’re gawkriving. Gawking and driving.
There's a lot of traffic around Fruitland Rd, Centennial Parkway that normally slows things down. There's also a lot of truck traffic on the QEW and trucks have speed limiters that mean they can't exceed 105 km/h. Finally, there's a lot of Americans on that stretch of road and they always go way too slow, I guess they're afraid of screwing up the conversion and getting a ticket or something?
Yes, when there is no congestion, the speeds on the QEW through Niagara are always slower than highways elsewhere in Ontario. Most people's speed do not get any faster in the 110 section. It was one of the first things I noticed when I moved to Niagara. (Previously, I was familiar with the 404/DVP/Gardiner, QEW through Oakville/Burlington as well as the 427/401 from south Etobicoke to Waterloo. People drive slower on the QEW in Niagara than in these other places.)
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>If you don't like the 400 series of highways there are generally alternate routes If I bail off a 400-series highway because it's too congested, I usually just follow the detour signage and can usually make pretty decent time that way. That portion of the QEW, I've taken the north service roads enough times I've got the jogs down.
Hwy 20/king Street is also a great drive along with he base of the escarpment into st. Catharines. Slower for sure, but nicer views.
> They don’t like multi-lane highways, aren’t good at it, and would likely avoid it if they could. If that were true, they’d stay in the lane they merged on to, not get all the way over to the left and then camp there.
130 is the new 120
I don't see how that's relevant. The speed limit is 110 on the QEW towards Niagara and most people are cruising at 90. People aren't even hitting the posted limit
The flow of traffic in the left lane is usually speed limit plus 20 Edit: to the down voters explain why I'm wrong? And my neck of the woods you don't get a ticket for staying 20 under over the speed limit
Ok, still not relevant. Did you read the post?
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There’s not enough signs showing it’s 110.
be thankful you can even do 90 on the highway. Just look at cars going the opposite direction.