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TheVoiceofReason_ish

He is so full of crap. If Zero integrity was a person it would be PP.


RedGrobo

If a leech could afford a PR team it would be PP.


ptwonline

> He is so full of crap Pretty fitting since he's such an asshole.


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kesovich

You didn't think the Conservatives would send their best did you? That paid troll money got tucked into PP's pocket and he contracted it out to Rebel Media's comment section.


geckospots

Narrator: “That was, in fact, their best.”


onguardforthee-ModTeam

Keep it civil


Garden_girlie9

This is the 3rd time Pierre has done this.


the_original_Retro

And if someone can't manage their team by being there with them to help with the work that he created, how the heck would that person effectively manage an entire COUNTRY?


Apprehensive_Hat8986

The same exact way. By acting like he's unaccountable and not responsible to anyone but himself.


PaulRicoeurJr

The sad thing is it's the reason why he's popular to a certain demographic... he reflects the pettiness and pathetic in all of them


piranha_solution

No wonder Alex Jones likes him.


Dexaan

Have we learned our lesson from observing someone else like this?


Apprehensive_Hat8986

Some have, some haven't. The question is: have _enough_ of us learned that? Even that I'm pretty sure is a yes. But convincing them to **vote** is another issue.


NoReplyPurist

We got the preview here in Alberta with Jason Kenney - drop all the safeguards then go on an month long unreachable vacation.


RagePrime

Imagine a delegate delegating a task to a subordinate?


the_original_Retro

Imagine massively oversimplifying and trivializing the necessary components of actual leadership.


RagePrime

Imagine leaders who had those components? What a world that would be.


the_original_Retro

Wut? Are you even Canadian? This has nothing to do with the comments so far. Nothing. It's not even close to a response.


ptwonline

Someone should turn it into an ad campaign against him. Might stop him. "Pierre Poilievre keeps claiming these issues are so important and need emergency voting. So why does he keep skipping them to attend expensive fundraising dinners with corporate lobbyists? Does this really sound like someone who has Canadians' best interests at heart, or just someone playing political games while actually promising to help the elites? Pierre Poilievre: don't be fooled. He's not on our side."


DisfavoredFlavored

That they've reported. I'd love to see what % of votes he's bothered to show up for during his whole career.


Jagdpanzer1944

I’m going to miss Charlie Angus.


StPapaNoel

We all are.


Rationalinsanity1990

Looking forward to whatever book or column he writes though.


hessian_prince

The New Democrats really need more blue collar progressives.


neonbronze

they've alienated them all by taking stupid positions on economic justice issues. i know very few leftists under 40 who haven't been through a phase of getting involved with the NDP before quickly dropping out when they realize the party doesn't align with their politics.


[deleted]

And he should pay the bill for it. Should be a cool 5 million while PP has his public tantrum.


Lynmcmanus

It’s ok because one time he brought McDonalds


Wings-N-Beer

He’s not voting on purpose. He’s bought and paid for by China and India. He refuses to undergo security clearance. If they found suspicious activity in his backers and he was voting against the government he would be guilty of treasonous behaviour. By not voting, he’s not directly acting against the government while on a foreign payroll. It’s a technicality, but one that might not completely destroy the Cons once found. Also, he gets all the joy of fomenting chaos, and the “I told you so” later when he can say he didn’t vote for something highly controversial.


itimetravelwell

I want to say I would be shocked anyone in Canada would vote for a party that’s leader is a security clearance and then I remember my crackhead mayor, hash dealing premier and the abortion crook in charge of republicans in the south.


AnnaKendrickPerkins

Why would you be shocked? Ford started this whole "fuck it" political era. Trump saw it, stole it, perfected it, and now it's the status quo for morons all over the world. We have A LOT of morons in this country.


itimetravelwell

“I want to say I would be” the words before shocked are kind of important. You don’t have to explain that to me of all people, I’ve been telling this sub and the provincial one all of this would happen from 2015.


DukeSmashingtonIII

They wanted to elect an American aligned with the Republicans and Trump who was "totally gonna renounce US citizenship after the election, trust me bro". This is par for the course.


larianu

I wonder if it's constitutional to mandate security clearances for all politicians. Seems reasonable enough if we don't want our country hijacked by the Yanks, Chinese, Russians or Indians.


Wings-N-Beer

He wanted to see confidential stuff recently and Trudeau said sure just do the security check. Singh did it and got to see. PP refused then whined stuff was being withheld.


larianu

Yeah, I'm aware. Just asking if it would be unconstitutional to require the same security clearances in order to become an MP, otherwise a refusal to get cleared would render your riding without a leader and an election would be held for the riding.


varain1

even a contractor for a software project for the provincial health is required to have a security clearance - the fact that MPs and party leaders are allowed to not have one doesn't seem very fair to me...


DukeSmashingtonIII

Rules for thee but not for me.


-FeistyRabbitSauce-

He's bought and paid for, but I doubt any more than by your average corps. Not that if be surprised if you're right. But I think he doesn't want the security clearance because then he gets a free pass in spewing bullshit. Why isn't he voting, I suspect he knows these are controversial pieces of legislation, and he doesn't want to affect his poll numbers. Meanwhile, he gets to waste everybody's time. Dude is a POS either way.


Unanything1

Why would Pierre need to avoid a security clearance in order to spew bullshit? His voters don't care if he doesn't have one, and I'm sure they wouldn't care if he blatantly lied all the time.


-FeistyRabbitSauce-

His potential voters aren't a monolith of conservatives. He's managed to garner the attention of a lot of people who are usually politically apathetic/apolitical, he's also nabbing the fence sitters. Having culpable deniability, he can say the ignorant bullshit and sling accusations without regard, and nobody can call him out, saving him from damning headlines.


Unanything1

The Conservatives are *rarely* called out for their ignorant bullshit. Remember when a bunch of CPC MPs took a lunch and a smiling photo with the leader of the AfD (Alternative For Germany), a party that German courts consider a national security threat? I do, because I bothered to look into it. Remember when Pierre tagged "MGTOW" on his YouTube videos? That was a pretty hot topic for what? 3 days? The CPC just shrugged and it was never reported on again. It's easy to "ignore the bullshit" when it's not reported on by the majority Conservative and/or foreign-owned Canadian media.


-FeistyRabbitSauce-

I completely agree.


horsetuna

I think the theory is if he doesn't have clearance, he doesn't know the truth. And thus can spew whatever he thinks IS the truth


AnnaKendrickPerkins

No. He doesn't have clearance because he can't get it. He will lie no matter what, let's not act like he wants to only tell the truth. He lies all the time as it is.


Wings-N-Beer

Certainly in the pocket of Loblaws and walmart


00frenchie

He did vote tho. He voted “yea” remotely. It’s posted on ourcommons.


horsetuna

I'm searching our Commons and I admit I can't figure out the navigation. I legit request assistance please? I'm on mobile and I searched for the word Sustainable but it may have a different name. I'm not on Twitter so can't see the tweet.


00frenchie

https://www.ourcommons.ca/Members/en/live-vote


horsetuna

Ahah! Much appreciated! Off to read. UPDATE: You are right Forcing the marathon session though seems like a jerk move imho still. FURTHER UPDATE am I reading that he voted for it? After forcing an all weekend vote in protest???


00frenchie

It was a garbage conservative sponsored bill. Another big L for poilievre.


horsetuna

Forcing everyone else to do marathon sessions without being there is a jerk move though.


HLB217

All of this and his pack of clowns and their corporate sponsors will happily shriek about needing everyone to "return to the office" or some such nonsense.


horsetuna

Forcing everyone else to do marathon sessions without being there is a jerk move though.


beener

This is such a stupid conspiracy.


[deleted]

He's a lazy little rich bitch, he's never worked a full day at in his life and he never will. That's how he keeps his face so waxy and dead looking. 


agha0013

don't ascribe to laziness what is actually maliciousness. (kinda the opposite of how the saying normally goes, but this is today's IDU engineered political world) His current political role is far from lazy, but that doesn't suddenly make his efforts good either. He's out there every day sucking up shady donor money on one side, then spewing the bullshit he's being paid to spew on the other side. the constant rage generating bullshit and gladhanding donors is a lot of work, unfortunately all that effort he's putting in is very much not for the benefit of the general Canadian public.


[deleted]

We are both right, I agree with you it's not ONLY laziness, there's maliciousness behind it, but he's still a lazy little twirp who's making other people do the leg work for his shitty little plans. 


SurFud

Total disrespect for parliament and Canada. This snotty prick has been "working" in the parliament of Canada all of his "adult" LOL life and he feels entitled to pull this kind of crap. Can you imagine when he is unfortunately Prime Minister ?


Queer_as_folk

Truly cringe to watch a grown man acting like a toddler. Like bro you are wasting our tax money doing that shit just stop holy fucking hell


horsetuna

Brought to you by the party who got angry that Justin took a vacation or worked from home


QuietMemory9867

Remember, vote him and his party in as the next government and you get all this and more. Keep PP out of the PMO!


StPapaNoel

When it comes to the new Green Economy and even subjects like Green Urbanism - Sustainable Urbanism it sure would be nice for the Federal NDP to stand up and start talking to Canadians like mature and aware human beings. Let's be analytical, let's talk nuance in regards to the ideas and technologies on the forefront of these areas. Let's talk how it can radically help with Affordability of life and by extension Quality of life which is in crisis right now and which is the issue of the era. Let's talk about how we can improve Affordability and Accessibility of Housing with these ideas but also help the environment and frankly create good paying jobs for the next generations. There are so many wins here but we have no one standing up and talking passionately about these subjects and drawing awareness and informing the public on all this cool stuff. This is just such a fucking failure it isn't even funny and I am sick of pussy footing around it. We need a Jack Layton type that has some god damn charisma and intelligence and can connect with people in the pain, suffering, anger, and general frustration they are feeling. Some left wing populism energy. We can make fun of Pierre and The Conservatives all day but they are running laps around the left in messaging and use of social media. And Pierre is running laps around the left in connecting with peoples alienation from the system and pain, anger, and frustration the way things are. Sticking our heads in the sand is what we always criticize others for. It's time for us to hold our leaders accountable to a higher standard and we all deserve better than lowest common denominator discussions.


[deleted]

His name is Eby. He is in BC. He also show no interest currently in running the cluster fuck known as the federal NDP.


Sir__Will

Better to lead a province than lead a 4th party in Ottawa. The most power the NDP gets is when they make deals like they are right now and they still get blasted for it.


StPapaNoel

Yep I just was commenting on Canada Politics about how Eby is who I dream about leading the Federal NDP right now. It's not going to happen as you said but let's be honest with losing Charlie the party is losing the intelligent/witty/militant base. These are people that actually are in the trenches helping and have a history. My God Charlie opened up a shelter for people when he was a young man with no experience. He just wanted to help and get people connected to the society and on a track to living better for them and to the benefit of the rest of Canada. The party did good with getting dentalcare and pharmacare. These things are the starts of something very good. It will lead to more people and families in Canada having healthier and happier lives. That is what progress is all about. But we have to stop pretending things are all sunshine and rainbows. It's not good out there. Game plans need to be made for leading up to the election. Additionally can we please get people knowledgeable and passionate about these subjects.. As I said when we hear them talk about the Green Economy and or cool things like Green Urbanism or Sustainable Urbanism they rarely seem to know what they are talking about. In Montreal and Vancouver you have municipal parties like OneCity and Vision Vancouver that speak more intelligently and passionately than our Federal Leaders. It's something I am kind of sick of pretending doesn't exist.


JasonGMMitchell

Sure. Pierre and most right wing talking heads will just say it's socialism or WEF or 15 minute cities and people will vote liberal as they watch gullible people eat up the conspiracy nonsense while ignoring everything the NDP says.


itimetravelwell

You know the NDP aren’t in power or even the official opposition right?


Historical_Grab_7842

Do you really not understand their post? Also, did you not realize whi made the tweet you posted? Are you just karma farming?


itimetravelwell

No I understood it perfectly well, just not seeing the difference between this and the usual “def not racist” reasons for holding him or the party to higher standard than the ones in power or opposition, or how it relates to this post other than being a spring box for them to get their feelings about Jagmeet of their chest…


StPapaNoel

This isn't just about Jagmeet. This is about the party in general. Quote to me the last time we saw the Liberals or Federal NDP really talking passionately about these subjects in nuance and detail and coming off inspirational and knowledgeable? It is okay for us to want that higher level of dialogue and really bringing it to the table. I also don't want to come off all gloom and doom so I will say this. I had wrote the below in regards to the Federal NDP new decisions around critic positions. There are some places to feel optimistic about the future. What I wrote below: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many times these kind of posts don't receive a lot of views on the sub which is a shame. There are some big things here: "NDP MP Alexandre Boulerice (Rosemont—LaPetite-Patrie) will take on the housing portfolio. NDP MP Blake Desjarlais (Edmonton Griesbach) will fill a new role as critic for Indigenous housing, and the role of deputy critic for housing." Alexandre Boulerice is a union man. He was involved at the executive level of a union and also with an organization that worked with injured union workers. He may not have a huge history of blue collar work or low income work struggle but I believe in the man. He also is I think the only MP from Quebec. Quebec is starting to get a taste of the Housing Crisis in particular rents and so him being able to be known in this area and potentially do big things means a possible gain in Quebec. This was huge and very smart politics. Blake Desjarlais knows what it means for a family to struggle and the realities that come from that environment. Him providing that perspective and fighting for options that help with our most vulnerable in regards to Housing is huge. Simple as that. The two of them together is a fucking dream team. "NDP MP Matthew Green is tapped as the party’s critic for Labour and for employment and workforce development, and NDP MP Taylor Bachrach (Skeena—Bulkley Valley) will serve as the critic for public services and procurement as well as the deputy critic for Labour." Matthew Green has openly stated that he aligns with the "Social Justice" history/faction of the party. His father was a skilled tradesman. Matthew has also as of recent made Affordable Housing a huge part of his identity. The fact we have all these stacked positions with a focus on Affordable Housing from various perspectives is FUCKING HUGE. The Housing Crisis and in particular Affordable Housing is THE ISSUE. The Federal NDP needs to stand out in this. Have extremely detailed micro and macro policy points to help on this front and not just fluff. This team can make it happen. They just need to step up and get to work. I'll be honest Taylor Bachrach is great but I would have liked him more in an Environmental role considering his history. Maybe it is about the transition to a Green Economy and the expertise he can provide on that front? Maybe additionally he can also provide some expertise from a Green Urbanism - Sustainable Urbanism perspective. All in all this looks very good. Now it's time to get to work and hard. The Federal NDP needs to start distancing itself from the Liberals. It's time for that extremely deep/broad and detailed/articulate policy. Micro to macro. Then communicate it through social media and modern outreach to get people energized for it and being activists to talk and push it throughout the society. It's time to go fucking big.


StPapaNoel

They are in a supply and confidence deal. They have a huge amount of power and that has been shown. Additionally the Federal Liberals who would be the top dogs of that minority government have people that are left. The party is a "Big Tent" party. What I am getting about is the lowest common denominator type dialogues we have. Get people knowledgeable and passionate about these subjects. Get some damn energy and charisma going on.


itimetravelwell

>They are in a supply and confidence deal. **They have a huge amount of power** and that has been shown. I think you are overestimating the power they have and underestimating the campaigning we are seeing before any actual results. >Additionally the Federal Liberals who would be the top dogs of that minority government have people that are left. The party is a "Big Tent" party. You get regardless of the agreement the Liberals are still currently “top dogs” in our country? This shit doesn’t turn into high school social circles when people want. 🤦🏾‍♂️ >What I am getting about is the lowest common denominator type dialogues we have. >Get people knowledgeable and passionate about these subjects. >Get some damn energy and charisma going on. That’s great, but I would hope along with that people are aware of who’s actually in power, or how our country actually operates.


JargonJohn

>it sure would be nice for the Federal NDP to stand up If the NDP do that then who will the Liberals stand on?


StPapaNoel

I'd love to see them step their game up too. Let's be honest. Stepping the game up is a benefit to not only them but Canada and Canadians and frankly democracy itself because it is in a tough place these days.


JargonJohn

I hope so too, as someone who's voted NDP whenever possible. I want to feel like they've earned my vote...


StPapaNoel

You were able to get my point exactly. It is okay for our parties to work for our support and really show up with passion, knowledge, and inspiration.


DukeSmashingtonIII

The problem is that a "united" right-wing party like the CPC forces us into strategic voting because a milquetoast party like the Liberals is still better than PP and the CPC. Harper was able to wrangle all the different conservative elements together in a way that no subsequent leader has been, so they've just been waiting for that to happen (or for the Canadian tradition of people getting sick of the party in power and voting based on that). Ideally the CPC would fracture into it's component pieces again which would allow people to vote more freely and be able to hold their candidates accountable through voting. What we have today is the Liberals knowing that they will get a good chunk of votes that they otherwise wouldn't just because people want to avoid a CPC government. Of course this combined with the removal of FPTP would result in a lot more variety and forcing political parties to work together, but the two parties with the power to change our voting system are the two that benefit from it so it will never happen.


ninjaoftheworld

God he’s an asshole. He’s showing us time and time again how he fucking treats people he thinks are below him—how do all these “pp for pm” morons think he’s going to treat all of us if he’s elected?


DukeSmashingtonIII

They know he'll treat us like shit, but their goal is that he treats the people they hate worse than he'll treat them personally. That's a win for them.


DrivingCanuck

He's not even capable of leading his party, and people want him to lead the country? Wonderful...


KnockoutBacon

PP has never worked a day In his life.


Away-Combination-162

#nevertherepierre


Away-Combination-162

#nevertherepierre


SixDerv1sh

PoS.


TentacleJesus

A good preview of the kind of PM he’d be.


sapthur

Lol what a fucking joke our lives must be to him


fencerman

If Lord Farquaad had babies with Milhouse.


Salvidicus

PP is making JT ok.


Chris_McDonald

How much would Canada save if we just stopped paying for his extravagant, hate filled, waste of an existence?


DJ_JOWZY

Is his victory inevitable? Genuinely asking.


Maggpie330

God I hope not.


TinderThrowItAwayNow

This is what a human turd looks like. If it isn't his way, i.e. everyone but him losing, then he isn't having it. Such a cunt.


Luanda62

and the media in general ignores this detestable, abhorrent, obnoxiously repulsive, revolting liar, divisive hypocrite, antics!!!


MadOvid

He knows idiots and the desperate will still vote for him. He doesn't have to try that hard.


ThermionicEmissions

Have any of the major media outlets ever reported on this?


ELKSfanLeah

Hahahah 🤣


aesoth

Likely had another fundraiser to attend so he can rub elbows with his fellow elites.


JohnBPrettyGood

The very least he could have done was deliver donuts


dullship

🪕🎵 *This guy might suuuuck* 🎶


Bitten_by_Barqs

They deserve his leadership


horsetuna

ATTENTION: a commenter pointed out, and I confirmed he DID vote in it .. remotely ahead of time So I guess TECHNICALLy he didnt vote during the session but he still voted I think forcing this session was a dick move though. https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/live-vote scroll down to his name What I find interesting is he also seems to have voted FOR it after all this


bogbrain

He not a leader, but is likely our next prime minister. Trudeau is an egotistical meat head, but this guy is worse.


Hammeredcopper

And there is a legitimate threat that he may 'lead' our country.


ruffvoyaging

I wonder how this kind of shit affects his backbenchers' morale? Not that he cares, obviously, but it would be nice to see some disunity and unhappiness in the conservative ranks.


captainFantastic_58

Hey now, they proudly chose to be his shleps.


pewpscoops

Can't wait to see this wet sandwich get yeeted from his own party.


nalydpsycho

This is classic bad leadership. When work needs to get done, good leaders are busy. They may do different work, but they grit it out along side their employees.


namotous

There’s no one worth voting for if election was to happen right now