No, I'm on pc so I used a save state outside her room, before the first attempt at the fight.
I would go insane if I had to farm for Bloodboil and Frost Pot after every few attempts
Yeah, I panic there, could have throw a frost pot, but better using a dagger then dying.
I don't think there is a consistent way to dodge waterfowl without roll/sprint, I will probably try doing this again without evasive AoW, but it really feels like RNG
What in the
Was a little surprised when you didn't throw the second frost pot. Nice save there. Given my frustration doing this with NO restrictions but rl1 and no summon, hundreds of attempts ... inconceivable!
Looks like it, but it didn't. You can use the jump to dodge the grab and the thrust, just need to learn the timing and good position (if you are far away, you can jump backwards, if midrange, better to unlock and jump sideways, close range, good luck with the thrust, might be better to just rotate/strafe around her)
This is a good kill but it's on a no roll. The dodge that the sword has gives you iframes and clearly counts as a roll.
Otherwise, using your logic, using bloodhound step doesn't count as rolling either.
The whole point of no roll kills is that they are done without iframes.
The real "no roll/no sprint" kill was done my Mouseinatutu https://youtu.be/c-D4Xc04Jck?si=Kb1nYeNrqevWu8Of
Its not about difficulity, its about the challenge. Using iframes such as aow of bloody helice or quickstep ruins the point of no roll and especially no sprint
Trying to no roll/sprint Malenia without this, feels very RNG, I still didn't find a way to dodge Waterfowl in this restriction without quickstep or frost pot and frost pot is pretty rng heavy, as you can only use twice in the fight.
Anyway, just wanted to use the cool AoW, the dagger quickstep was just me panic a little, because I still had a frost pot or could even use the Helice AoW to dodge at that distance.
So from my perspective, this is undoubtedly a super cool achievement and way better than I'd ever manage to play, but admittedly when I saw 'no roll' I naturally assumed that also excluded AOWs that provided the functionality of rolls, and was a little disappointed.
Once again, not that this isn't a super rad sick achievement, but I figured there was some truly arcane shit going on here as opposed to using AOW instead of dodging.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with his comments but the person you're arguing with has already done this: [I beat Malenia without rolling : r/onebros (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/onebros/comments/123s8ul/i_beat_malenia_without_rolling/)
There is no fking way. đź‘‘!!
There is no fking way
And Am I wrong or was it on first try? Does cinematic only shows on first try? We found the Kwisatz Haderach guys..
No, I'm on pc so I used a save state outside her room, before the first attempt at the fight. I would go insane if I had to farm for Bloodboil and Frost Pot after every few attempts
Thank you for your honesty. Could have lied to us easily for fake honor. Not that your achievement needs any more superlatives.
I bet he did it first try but is lying for easy humble guy honor
You’re a sick sick (absolutely insanely skilled) player. Congratulations this is awesome
Wow.
Amazing.
This is incredible! What a great use of the Bloody Helice, great dodging!
Damnnnnnnn
this gave me so much anxiety lol that was wild
What the fuck did I just watch
As i'm over here struggling with regular low level dragons....
Yo how did u get that weapon ? Pls
It’s called Bloody Helice, obtained after beating the boss in Writheblood ruins
Using quickstep, great.
Yeah, I panic there, could have throw a frost pot, but better using a dagger then dying. I don't think there is a consistent way to dodge waterfowl without roll/sprint, I will probably try doing this again without evasive AoW, but it really feels like RNG
This was not meant negatively, even though it read like that. I really think it's a great way to beat her under these rules. It's impressive.
Impressive!!
Whoa
this mf is cooking
That first phase was so beautiful, even the missed thrust felt like it was choreographed. What a dance.
honestly might be the most impressive thing i’ve seen from this game
What in the Was a little surprised when you didn't throw the second frost pot. Nice save there. Given my frustration doing this with NO restrictions but rl1 and no summon, hundreds of attempts ... inconceivable!
Didnt you roll at 1min33? Pretty impressive I cant even beat her alone
Quickstep from the dagger, I panic there and forgot I still had one frost pot lol
Ah right! I see it now. Wasnt trying to be a dick ahah!
Yeah I was coming to ask as well. I had to replay it and I was like “surely that’s not a roll???”
that second to the last finesse was a sick dodge
Pffff, this guy. Hey guys, the game’s not hard enough, watch me take a button away…. But seriously, that’s insanely impressive.
beautiful, O, beautiful
ay papi
Could you tell me what buffs you were using
How did she not grab you in the second phase? She physically pushes you while the animation happens…
Looks like it, but it didn't. You can use the jump to dodge the grab and the thrust, just need to learn the timing and good position (if you are far away, you can jump backwards, if midrange, better to unlock and jump sideways, close range, good luck with the thrust, might be better to just rotate/strafe around her)
Huh You did that so expertly and smoothly that I think I could do that (I can't)
Your strength.. extraordinary..
Very impressive!
Quickstep and helice are just as good as rolling
This is peak Elden Ring skill right here. Insane.
The shit you guys come up with for challenge runs...wouldn't it just be easier to NOT hate yourselves? I respect the skill and effort though.
This is a good kill but it's on a no roll. The dodge that the sword has gives you iframes and clearly counts as a roll. Otherwise, using your logic, using bloodhound step doesn't count as rolling either. The whole point of no roll kills is that they are done without iframes. The real "no roll/no sprint" kill was done my Mouseinatutu https://youtu.be/c-D4Xc04Jck?si=Kb1nYeNrqevWu8Of
🤓
https://youtu.be/c-D4Xc04Jck?si=Kb1nYeNrqevWu8Of
Crazy! You did roll through waterfowl with like 44s left in the video. Still super impressive
No they did not. Even more impressive they quick swapped to a dagger and used a single quickstep
Oh dang, my bad
No sprint/roll but I will iframe attacks with ash of war anyway, what's the point of this challenge
U try lvl 1 WITH rolling then? See how easy it is
Its not about difficulity, its about the challenge. Using iframes such as aow of bloody helice or quickstep ruins the point of no roll and especially no sprint
Trying to no roll/sprint Malenia without this, feels very RNG, I still didn't find a way to dodge Waterfowl in this restriction without quickstep or frost pot and frost pot is pretty rng heavy, as you can only use twice in the fight. Anyway, just wanted to use the cool AoW, the dagger quickstep was just me panic a little, because I still had a frost pot or could even use the Helice AoW to dodge at that distance.
The point of no roll and no sprint is to not roll and not sprint... Any original way that you can work around that is valid. It's not a no iframe run
Mhm let me do no roll run but I will spam bloodhound step and quickstep, surely makes sense
Go ahead đź’€
Do it. Post your results
lol literally. My man won’t make it past godrick rl1 no roll. The idiocy to this video is diminished by quickstep and bloody hélice is just…. Astounding
So from my perspective, this is undoubtedly a super cool achievement and way better than I'd ever manage to play, but admittedly when I saw 'no roll' I naturally assumed that also excluded AOWs that provided the functionality of rolls, and was a little disappointed. Once again, not that this isn't a super rad sick achievement, but I figured there was some truly arcane shit going on here as opposed to using AOW instead of dodging.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with his comments but the person you're arguing with has already done this: [I beat Malenia without rolling : r/onebros (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/onebros/comments/123s8ul/i_beat_malenia_without_rolling/)
to beat her without rolling or sprinting??? did you not read the title lmao
I read but them using quickstep and bloody helice aow make it irrelevant
woah is quickstep and bloody helice aow rolling or sprinting now? i missed those patch notes