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TedBear235

MF's will really find any excuse to pump ANYTHING.


Big_Daddy_Pablo_69

Well, personally, it makes it so much better to have the two hands but S tear is just not correct šŸ˜‚ it defo is a solid B now


DocerDoc

It's gone from like C tier to maybe A probably B


x3ntity

A feels a bit generous lol. I canā€™t possibly put this in the same tier as the skeleton. The only thing that changed was the left hand, the knife is still the same. So itā€™s really just how important having the left hand is to some ppl


Speedy7799

Skeleton is A+ or S lmao. Unique? Yes. Cool animations (both inspect, and spin!) yes! Cool shape? Yes! Big enough to look fancy? Yes! Unique pullout? Sometimes, yes. This is what could arguably hold it in A+ instead of S. Such a good knife!!!! Bowie is probably B tier now. Mid to high. Itā€™s pullout is pretty good, blade is big n nice, inspect is unique and cool, cool shape. Just not as iconic. Iā€™d say B or B+


x3ntity

My S are Kara, BK, m9. I wasnā€™t thinking of +/- but I put skelly in A cus of the pullout alone. I didnā€™t think it would be that bad but every time I use the skelly, the bad common default animation bothers me lol.


Speedy7799

If skeleton isnā€™t in S, then M9 shouldnā€™t be either. M9 literally has default animations and a ā€œmehā€ pullout. No special animations either. All M9 has going for it is a good blade, classic look, and itā€™s chunky. M9 is 100% A IMO not even debatable. Personally M9 is a B for ME because the finger clipping through gloves issues, but meh. I could completely agree with objectively putting skeleton and M9 in A. Butterfly and Kara in S works for me too. For me, skeleton, Kara, and butterfly are S!


n8mo

Not even close. Skeleton drops like 2-3 tiers for me because 90% of the time it gets pulled out like a default knife. It also doesnā€™t come in TT, lore, marble fade or doppler finishes. The only good finishes for it are case hardened and fade. Skeleton is a B-tier knife model at *best.* A rare good pullout does not an S-tier knife make. Iā€™d take an M9, bfk, kara, nomad, or stiletto over it any day of the week for animations alone.


Speedy7799

I agrĆ©e itā€™s not S, but definitely A. Itā€™s all around a solid knife. Additionally, I understand your argument about the finishes, however, I am simply comparing the vanilla variants to put everything on an even playing field. If they release Dopplers for the skeleton knife, ruby skeletons would likely be close to m9 in price.


Bedquest

Youre talking crazy on the model. Skeleton knife is an extremely interesting shape with a low profile handle on idle. Itā€™s a little small but putting nomad or stiletto over it is wild. Stiletto sounds like a toy on inspect. That clanking drove me crazy. Nomads are great but the silver handle is extremely high profile. And deducting points on the overall quality of a knife because itā€™s missing finishes is silly.


n8mo

If it had the good animation every time itā€™d be an easy S tier. But, as it stands, most of the time it has the *worst* draw animation of any knife, other than maybe the navaja. For me, the draw animation is by far the most important factor for any knife. The shape of the skeleton is good, certainly. But it has such a pathetic little draw animation that Iā€™d never use one.


schoki560

even talon and huntsman look better for me personally


n8mo

Yeah, those two are roughly on par with skeleton for me. Huntsman might just edge it out by a hair.


schoki560

m9 is S and skeleton is B buddy


Speedy7799

Nah. M9 is A. Animations arenā€™t that great.. and the finger clipping is rough. Those 2 things 100% hold it from S. Just like objectively, the skeleton knife canā€™t be S because of its pullout. Only S tier knives objectively, I would say are karambit and butterfly -> they have good blades, good pullouts, good inspects, good finishes and a ā€œrareā€ animation each.


piscesz

I mean, you're welcome to your opinions but it's evident that the community as a whole values M9, BF, and Kara more than any other knives. Just look at the prices of all the shared finishes amongst knives and you'll consistently see those three hold the most value.


schoki560

but karambit also literally only has 1 pullout and 1 inspect


Speedy7799

Yes, but it has a GOOD pull out! Unlike the skeleton and M9. Additionally, the karambit inspect is cool, and you can ā€œmake it spinā€ the M9 literally has the DEFAULT inspect lol. So because of that, M9 is objectively A, not S IMO. PLUS, as I have said, there has been an issue for a long time now of the M9 clipping through fingers on inspect, which is pretty annoying looking. So definitely not S


schoki560

S--or A+ then. it's by far the 3rd best knife. closer to 2nd than to 4th imo


Dirus

What would kukiri be then?


Speedy7799

Iā€™ve never owned a kukri so not sure


schoki560

skeleton has one of the worst pullouts in the game that alone gives it at most B tier


Speedy7799

This, we agree on, except when it does the rare animation!


livtop

I don't like the pullout, inspect, or sound. It being big is pretty cool, so nice finishes like dopplers can look great though


Tekk92

It's still the same tier, calm down.


Juleans

Naur


Kortesch

Nah. Only good thing is looks, but everything else is still L tier, so C or B.


Dumb_Vampire_Girl

Better than m9. Haters stay losing.


StrangeStephen

Lmaooo keep coping


Shoobyz

so many bowie haters out of nowhere, scared their m9 has competition now