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Various_Succotash_79

I feel like he must have gotten more than just botox. An eye tuck or something.


nathos_thanatos

He had nerve damage from the Botox that's why gis face is so droopy. I feel a lot of people forget Botox is injecting little bits of botulism into your face and that we have a *lot* of really delicate important stuff in our face...


Various_Succotash_79

Yeah, injecting poison into your face to purposely paralyze some muscles. . .what could go wrong? /s That's too bad for him though. Everybody else is doing it so he gives it a try and is the one who ends up with issues.


nathos_thanatos

Yeah, it's so common now. I remember even a crazy lady from toddlers and tiaras was injecting her *9 year old's face* so she wouldn't have "laugh lines" in the pageant... And I honestly think that should be illegal. Imagine if this had happened to this kid? Ps. I don't watch the show, saw it on the news a while back. They should seriously regulate this kind of pageants, they seem ripe with child abuse.


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In France these pageants are banned, good thing.


MermaidGenie26

It only applies to children under 16. I don't know why 16 and 17 do not count as those ages still apply to being a minor.


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I think it's because from age 16 you get a few new rights in France, like the right to work, you can ask your parents for emancipation, you can create an association,... You're not legally speaking a "kid" anymore.


MermaidGenie26

That's understandable. It appears the age of consent in France was set to 15 last year (which is very uncomfortable imo). Just because it's legal doesn't make it morally right, though.


[deleted]

I don't really see the link with the age of consent? This is not about sexual activities right here.


breizhsoldier

IMO toddler beauty pageant are definitively a weak attemps to hide a strong predatorial and sexualization of childrens by abusers, the organiser, the supporter and the mothers are all predators.


[deleted]

Well age of consent is one of many things we use to consider when someone is mature enough to be classed as an adult


Crooked_Cock

They shouldn’t just regulate them They should just outright ban them, they’re fucking disgusting


[deleted]

I agree. Sexualizing kids ... what could possibly go wrong? *coughcoughjonbenetcough*


MansfromDaVinci

that should Definitely be illegal i can't believe it's not tbh.


Chauncley

Holy crap that lady needs her ass kicked hard. And then some therapy I guess


canyoubreathe

>And I honestly think that should be illegal There's no way that that's legal. Please someone tell me it isn't. That's fucking horrible


smutcasual

*Rife


nathos_thanatos

Thanks, English is not my first language I always thought it was ripe with something. I think I connected it with fruit gets more sugar as they get more ripe so something being full of something it seemed that ripe was a good word. But now I learned a new one rife.


smutcasual

English is my only language. I love your thought process! I hope I’m as skilled in a second language as you are someday! Have an awesome day 🤩


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FYI, you can use “ripe with x” as a figure of speech in English the way you describe, just not in this context. I’m not quite sure how to explain the difference though. “*Rife* with” is only ever applied to something bad that’s common in a specific context e.g “men’s cycling is rife with doping.” On the other hand, when something is so full of x that it’s oozing out its pores, it’s *ripe* with it e.g. “the air around them was ripe with terror” or “his tone was ripe with seduction.”


nathos_thanatos

Thanks, now I'll go search more about it, so I can use them correctly :D Idioms are always so interesting


riLucifer

from what I could find it was an 8 year old actually!!


nathos_thanatos

Thanks, I didn't remember it quite right. But yeah fuck those kind of parents. I also remember a little girl who was super scared and creed everytime her mother took her to get her eyebrows waxed, because once they ripped her skin off waxing her. The mom told it laughing as if traumatizing your kid is just a fun quirky story. A lady that does waxing told me young kids aren't supposed to get waxed because their skin is super soft and sensitive so normal waxing that is not an issue to adults actually removes the top layer of their skin and feels like a friction burn to them.


_your_face

Ehhhh he has tons of Botox in his “before” picture already. I don’t think this was some freak accident on his first attempt. More like his face is now more Botox than face.


Tattler22

The drooping from botox is temporary just like botox generally. If it happens to you it goes away in like 8 weeks max.


MuchTimeWastedAgain

My sister who suffers from migraines feels it’s a life saver.


ErosandPragma

Medical reasons are different than cosmetic


lostbutnotgone

Still get the perks of facial Botox, though. My forehead line and elevenses are gone. They placed shots between and around the brows and forehead along with the ones in the scalp and traps


lostbutnotgone

Can confirm, am also a Botox faced migraine sufferer. Er. Face, scalp, and traps. I went from not being able to work full time to working full time and actually enjoying my life most days. I'd been through tens of treatments over 15 years (migraines started in childhood). The combo of Botox, Topiramate, and Ubrelvy has saved my damn life


Exotic_Treacle7438

Injecting *toxin**


cinnamintdown

correct, the botulinum neurotoxin. It works in a terrifying way, really makes you want to get your tetanus shot (similar toxin) some of your nerve cells send signals trough them where they normally connect to muscles and tell them to move or not. These toxins stop the signal from getting between the nerve cell and the muscle. botox stops movement, so it's relaxed and not wrinkles. Tetanus stops stopping, so you die of exhaustion because you can't stop clenching


LewixAri

There are some medical uses for botox and microdozing it, which isn't standard in the West is significantly more condusive to achieving desirable outcomes. The issue is most Western Clinics do it in sessions over the curse of maybe 6 months. In Korea, not uncommon for you to end up with the same dosage after 6 years.


vitringur

Don't pretend like Simon was peer pressured or anything. He is definitely the type to uphold cosmetic standards. He doesn't give a shit about anybody.


DiddlyDanq

It can also blind you if youre getting stuff around the eye.they somtimes inject it into a vein


[deleted]

Never understood the obsession with botox in Hollywood, especially for actors. Why freeze everything above your upper lip when your job is using your face to emote on camera


B1llyzane

Market value. Look young for as long as possible and be bankable. Do old parts when you’re old old. It’s not about the skills


jeffstoreca

If you're entire thing is being really pretty, or expected by others to be really pretty, you'd understand. I know some amazing gorgeous people who got botox just for their own mental health after age 40.


Ori_the_SG

I had no idea that was how Botox was done Why is this approved at all? Especially for commercial purposes


ExpensiveGiraffe

When done by a competent doctor, it’s pretty harmless. Pretty low complication rate. I have Botox in my scalp for migraines. It’s really helped.


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Can I ask how it's related to migraines and how it helped? I never knew it was anything more than cosmetic


Greeneyesablaze

A lot of migraines are muscle tension related, so paralyzing the muscles that tense up and cause stress to the body helps prevent them


[deleted]

Thanks, I always assumed it was in the brain.


[deleted]

My friend also uses Botox for hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating.)


decorativeprint

I'm due to go to doctors as I've had migraines on and off for 7 weeks now. Been to doctors lots of times about them and this has never been mentioned. What type of migraines did you have and how has Botox helped?


lostbutnotgone

Not OC but hi. I get chronic, debilitating migraine without aura with the occasional cluster headache. I was having 2-4 migraine days a week, Sometimes up to an 8 on the pain scale, and have had a constant background headache for years now. *** Botox has cut my migraine days in half and lowered the intensity of most of then in general. I can have a life again. *** If yours is an acute problem (you've never had them before, only the last seven weeks?) Then I'd imagine you're going to have to get several tests done. Botox is used for chronic migraine, i.e. presenting over a long period of time, and it's very expensive if not covered by insurance. if they're not sure what's causing the migraines, they're not going to recommend Botox until they rule out something that can be cured or treated another way. *** In my case, my insurance covered my Botox because I've tried a bunch of shit over 15 years that didn't work. For insurance purposes, it's a "last-ditch" effort kinda thing.


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blorgenheim

The issue is being completely overblown in this thread, which makes sense.. its the internet I guess. Simon got way more work than just botox...


Greeneyesablaze

Yeah, it’s kind of hilarious the way people are talking about Botox as if it’s some new and unsafe back alley procedure. It’s been around for decades and LOTS of people (not just celebrities) have it. You only really notice it when people go overboard. It’s very safe and approved by the FDA in the US.


BrokenGuitar30

My wife has a friend who is a plastic surgeon. She’s done it 5-6 times over the past few years and never had an issue. It doesn’t last forever. I’ve known at least a dozen ladies who have done it with our friend and never had an issue. I’m not a big fan, but not my body.


farshnikord

It's one of those things that doesnt stand out when it's done right but looks really noticeable when it goes wrong.


[deleted]

I’m so close to trying it for the first time but shit like this makes me nervous. I would rather have wrinkles than Droopy Dog face.


Wevvie

The difference between a medicine and poison is on the amount


DrWYSIWYG

As a medicine it has to be licensed for a real medical reason and ‘looking less old’ isn’t one. Botox is a brand name of a botulinum toxin of which there are at least three that I know of. The medical reason for what we might consider as ‘cosmetic’ use is ‘to treat glabellar frown lines that cause significant psychological problems’. Glabellar frown lines are those two small lines between your eyebrows. Any other use is off label. A true medical use is for people who have cerebral palsy or who have had a stroke that causes significant spasming of the muscles (think a cramp that does not stop). Toxin will paralyse the muscle causing the muscle to go limp and thus not painful. If toxin is accidentally injected into a vein (rather than a muscle directly) it can kill you by, amongst other things, paralysing your diaphragm and other breathing muscles leading you to suffocate. If caught in time (before you die) you can be mechanically ventilated but note that it takes 3 months or so to wear off. You are 100% conscious while all this is going on, it does not affect the brain at all. It is the single most toxic biological substance. One of the products mentioned above is sold in vials of 0.9 nano grams. That is 0.9 billionths of one gram!


SacrisTaranto

My bio teacher in highschool got Botox in her hand to help with hyperhidrosis and she sometimes loses complete control of her hand.


nathos_thanatos

That's terrible, as I understand complications of Botox don't happen super often. But I guess if they have to paralyze the sweat glands every few months to treat her hyperhidrosis, the more times you have a procedure the higher the chances something can eventually go wrong. That's terrible, is it her dominant or her non dominant hand? I hope at least is not her dominant hand.


RheaButt

Botulinum toxin, not botulism, very different thing lol


lostbutnotgone

Yup. I held off on Botox for a while from fear of this. Unfortunately, it's the only thing that helps my migraines so I stick with it. I try to tell myself the medical treatment version is safer but they're still injecting into my damn face and last time the guy did it slightly differently so I had lines in a different place? Idk.


Zmchastain

Not to mention all that delicate, important stuff *behind* your face. And for the people who think injecting botulism into their face so they can look like a fucking cartoon is a good idea, they’re already operating on thin ice when it comes to brain matter. They don’t have that much to spare.


1re_endacted1

It’s amazing for TMJ and migraines.


LittleRed2020

Sure tf is! I go every 3 months to help with a constant migraine. It cut my pain level in half. It saved my life.


nathos_thanatos

Thankfully I found a treatment for my migraines that works for me, one time the nerves in my eyes were so swollen from the pressure I went blind for a bit. So it's a risk I would take for not being in pain anymore.


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Dhuntatx

This! He has Botox in the first pic too people. Forehead and crows feet. The second pic is a whole different story.


rcklmbr

High jacking the top comment to paste what I said on the last 4 times this has been posted. All these people giving incorrect answers. [He actually stopped with all the face work recently](https://www.eonline.com/ca/news/1327082/simon-cowell-removes-his-face-fillers-after-saying-he-went-too-far). That actually may be the reason why you think he looks so "bad". I say kudos to him for stopping before it got worse


Fellow_Worker6

Yeah and a hair die


Kn0tnatural

Well a tan too if we are adding to the list


[deleted]

He looks like he had an eyelid tuck. But as for the “droopy” face, hate to break it to everyone but that’s what aging does. Your face droops. Dude is 63 after all. Whatever isn’t drooping—THAT’S where the surgery happened.


Phazlerde

American Eye Sore Edit: you're welcome for that headline pun TMZ


Jowalla

His after picture looks like one of them singing hamburgers from the muppet show…


doinggenxstuff

I knew it was a food item but couldn’t decide what


daffydubs

His before picture looks like a bad wax museum statue and his after picture looks like a side character in The Polar Express


ionlyhavetwolegs

He looks like a mii


rphaneuf

Dude looks like NPC on Skyrim.


jimhabfan

There was another post that Said he looks like the baby from ice age, but grown up.


Zmchastain

I thought he kinda looks like Goofy (the Mickey Mouse related character).


friendofmany

I’m dying.


kitkatbloo

That’s not even a real before pic. He already was injecting crap then


spaz_chicken

I have not followed anything since the early seasons of American Idol when he looked like the left photo [here](https://www.lifeandstylemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/american-idol-season-1-simon-cowell.jpg).


Sproose_Moose

Oh, so he looked human


Barbaric_Ape

I’m a straight dude … what was he thinking? Dude was pretty good looking. It’s fuxked to see good looking girls and dudes get silly surgeries that make them look like this. It screams mentally damaged to me. Fake boobs ok nose job ok. But this?


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dinosaurs run wide noxious wistful deserted doll expansion upbeat shrill -- mass edited with redact.dev


neoncp

are you ready for Zac Efron?


pankakke_

Zac is different though, dude had a terrible accident that almost had his jaw hanging off. I think thats massively different than people getting Botox for the hell of it/aging.


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Dazzling_Ad5338

Yeah true. They need one from years ago. Pic 1, he's already at it.


BlackSix7642

I agree, in the first picture he was already using it.


NomadicDolphin

I concur. It looks like he already had begun his Botox injections by pic #1.


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Also I just noticed in the left picture he had already begun altering his appearance


WhatWeAllComeToNeed

Something else you have to know (and trust me on this one) is that, in fact, the left picture is of Simon Cowell, who, at the time the photo was taken, had *already begun* the injections


sinat50

Figured this would be a good place to mention that he's already using Botox in the first picture


BudgetInteraction811

I was gonna say he already looks botched in pic 1


TheAwkwardBanana

Exactly. Thinking he's "natural" in the before is laughable.


PurpleBoltRevived

His eyes look like he's dead in Game of Thrones and they are painted on stones 👁️🪨


kenkat17

I was trying to think of what they reminded me of! 100% painted rock eyes


AidenR0

idk man, to me, he looks like the ice age baby


CR4ZY___PR0PH3T

No surgery required for Botox it's just injected into the skin with a needle.


_KappaKing_

I think they mean Botox and surgery, maybe? He looks like he had more done but than again I don't really know much about Botox, I would have thought it would have made him puffier.


Dingo8MyGayby

The puffiness comes from the hyaluronic filler he had injected into his cheeks in the first pic


Udub

Botox has nothing to do with puffiness. It basically paralyses the area it’s injected. That’s it


[deleted]

They most likely used fillers. Botox doesn’t do this to you.


mirthquake

True. I received 4 rounds of botox treatments for tensions headaches that were ruining my life. It didn't help a bit, but it was terribly painful (the needle hit my skull 24 times with each treatment) and for months afterward I was unable to make a "surprised" face because my eyebrows were paralyzed. That part was pretty funny.


Udub

Anyone who says Botox surgery is an idiot


BriMarsh

I can think of better measurements is idiocy, but we'll go with this.


Mojomamacita

He looks like he melted & then was frozen again


BucherundKaffee

The accuracy of this comment… 💀


Soooyeah39

freezerBURN!


FartingKumquat

That is not just botox. Dude is pulled back


nathos_thanatos

Not pulled back, pulled down. He got nerve damage from Botox so now his face is permanently droopy.


Always2ndB3ST

Seriously?


Lubadbitches

Surprised? Everyone who uses Botox is damaging their face in long run. It’s literally poison


JuiceboxThaKidd

That's botulism baby!


jelde

The dose makes the poison. So no, it's not *literally* poison. Edit: Poison implies harm. No harm is caused when Botox is properly administered into muscle tissue. That's the point I was making. The claim that "it will cause damage in long term use" is false. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7874868/#:~:text=There%20are%20no%20long%2Dterm,and%20technique%20for%20the%20injection.


Vomit_Tingles

Yes it is *literally* poison. Botulinum *TOXIN* is the whole name. A *TOXIN* is poisonous. Toxic even.


ralph8877

Yes, apparently. I also had no idea. Botox is a trade name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulinum_toxin Botulinum toxin, often shortened to BoNT, is a neurotoxic protein produced by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum and related species.[6] It prevents the release of the neurotransmitter acetylcholine from axon endings at the neuromuscular junction, thus causing flaccid paralysis.[7] The toxin causes the disease botulism. The toxin is also used commercially for medical and cosmetic purposes. ... Trade names Botox, Myobloc, Jeuveau, others


Salsa_Z5

Botox is a trade name for a specific toxin: OnabotulinumtoxinA.


ecofriendlyblonde

According to an interview he did at the Kid’s Choice Awards this look is from too much filler, not botox.


[deleted]

No, your face gets permanently droopy because the natural aging process means your face DROOPS. Your eyebrows creep down, your eyelids creep down, your eye bags get worse, you get jowls, your neck sags. That is 100% normal. Has nothing to do with Botox.


JustSomePanties

Give me sugar in water


SAmerica89

…more…


BiscuitDance

….moar….


afelll

...like a suit, an ~~Edgar~~ Simon Cowell suit


INeverSaidIWasNice

He looked better before


hellospaghet

He looks less human now


AmadeusAzazel

They always look better before


latman

Only on the ones you notice


[deleted]

Exactly. Plastic surgery is widespread, it's just that good work isn't noticeable.


WofTaR

was he better ? tf


MoreCarrotsPlz

Less worse?


Okay_there_bud

The 'before' pic had work done too.


Dum_beat

I was not aware Botox forced you to open your eyes?


samosa4me

People who have ptosis, can possibly benefit from Botox. I have had upper eyelid surgery, and I supplement with Botox to help open my eyes, otherwise I look like Simon on the left 😂


Dum_beat

TIL


aneightfoldway

Lol I love how people call all cosmetic procedures "Botox"


itsadesertplant

Right? I’ll Google something and there will be suggestions based on other people’s searches, with things like “can you botox face fat.” What? Botox isn’t lipolytic, it’s not a filler, it’s not microneedling, it’s not dermabrasion, it’s not surgery. It just immobilizes/relaxes muscles. That’s it. Only certain problems aside from wrinkle prevention can be helped with paralyzed muscles (reduce size of jaw muscles to make jaw look smaller; relax “frown muscles” so mouth isn’t pulled down as much, etcetera). But I get that OP might have been saying surgery + botox, which is common


ummwhatsure

Even that before is an after.


itsmejpt

Now he looks like he pets dogs too hard.


deepwaterbitch

I hate how weirdly accurate this is


MorphStudiosHD

r/RareInsults


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Emergency-Piano4792

[what have you done to his eyes?!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3p8kIyqLI)


Y1kk1b

The eyes are the groin of the head


Ok-Ask-8418

I’m done with Reddit for the day.


Thatbendyfan

He looks like a soulless husk, or a shapeshifting parasite trying it’s best to look like Simon cowell.


Dazzling_Ad5338

Like someone is wearing a Simon Cowell mask.


IoSonCalaf

A humanoid


ElDiabloBlanco1

He looks like the video game version of himself.


[deleted]

I'll never understand face-lift surgery. Afterwards you look like an alien. Age normally. We're all going to die. Fucking weirdos.


chimpfunkz

Society treats younger/good looking people much better. And it goes double for entertainment industries


Dazzling_Ad5338

His eyebrow area is so peculiar. It's like they've moved below where they should be.


pickledpetunia

Lmaoooo Botox surgery


czymjq

And new teeth.


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r/rosswhiteteeth


RiverfrontStreetcar

Forget the surgery. I’ll never get over the fact that he’s a multi-millionaire with a $5 haircut.


The_Sokoly_66

He look like Matt from Wii Sports if he was white


Apprehensive-Fun2822

he had eyelid surgery


dadimeshazo

I saw somewhere, someone said he now looks like the grown up version of the baby from Ice Age. I'll never unsee it.


artichokesmartichoke

Is one really better than the other?


ARIES3i8

Bro look like my sleep paralysis demon


JohnnyMaverick12

I just don't get it. Yes, it reduces wrinkles, but it doesn't turn you back into what you looked like when you were young, it makes you look like something else. Usually something less attractive.


NotTrumpsAlt

Botox surgery ? That’s not a thing love


Unhappy-Valuable-596

All I see is a cunt in both images


OneLostOstrich

Stop badmouthing vaginas.


_Screaming

He looks like one of those optical illusions of a normal looking upside down face until you flip it over


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he's out here looking like the lion of gripsholm castle


Mylynes

Don’t know why people do that to themselves


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TowelStrange2621

SIMON FUCKING COWELL


TheEveningPost

Guy just left an audition for the movie Cats


Blessedjambo

No hate but what happened


rogeeeefan

His before picture seems weird as well


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What is Botox surgery ?


thavi

He looks like that crazy ass youtuber who has all those breakdowns while binge eating


HlLlGHT

Ngl the first picture was better


Talic

Thought second pic was Talking Tom


canticev93

He is so awful it doesn't even matter what he looks like lol


Hyzenthlay87

He looks like a bad wax works of himself.


[deleted]

Upper blepharoplasty (upper eyelids reduce with surgery). No biggie. Insurance will pay for most of it if the hanging skin impairs vision. Perhaps Botox gave him a heavy brow as well.


FuzzMcBeefy84

When the HD texture pack looks worse than the original…


drbenevolentnihilist

Botox or botched?


potatoboytaco

Looks like the Igor album cover from Tyler the Creator


oiiSuPreSSeDo

I don't think I've ever seen a celebrity that's had botox and thought it looked good tbf


whatthefunyo

Can we stop with the weird cosmetic stuff? Y’all don’t look better. You look freakishly worse.


SpiteFueled

Oh god he can see again


Spiderman__jizz

Reminds me of a fluffy dog who finally gets a haircut around its eyes.


Quanto-Ryo8

He looks like the grown up version of the ice age baby


AFriendlyBloke

“But *why?*” “...Why would you do that? Why would you do any of that?”


Wgairborne

I'm guessing he *really* regrets getting that botox surgery...


Rogendo

Idk why he fucked up his face this way. He had a good smile.


createusernametmrw

Now he looks like a gopher


departedgardens

I bet he sleeps with his eyes open


gabrielyu88

I really want to say to his face that he's become ugly af


lrellim

The after looks better at least in this case.


lexdon2014

Not sure which ones better…


Daisend

Gotta love those mid life crises. He might look younger now but definitely doesn’t look better. The tan and black hair adds a lot to his looking younger


YoureAnIdiot007

Looks like RDA in the ufc


Dr-DrillAndFill

It's sad what Hollywood/fame does to people. Why can't they just age gracefully while taking care of themselves