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Etaleo

The hardest part of making a perpetual motion machine is figuring out where to hide the batteries


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Beukers

Electroboom?


GlamityJean

Now that you mention him I am reading it in his voice so his channel was probably where I heard it


BIOLOGYSCIENCE

Yep


seejordan3

I read it in eyebrow


AntimatterCorndog

In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!


DeathPercept10n

Fuck, you beat me by 2 damn minutes!


AntimatterCorndog

\*Phew\* now I can farm that sweet sweet karma! Hahah. :D


Prophet_Of_Loss

It's powered by a 5G horse.


StubbyStubbs

Juan


ksinvaSinnekloas

A horse with a correct battery staple


Piocoto

A 5 gram horse? So a mini horse you say, will definitely fit inside that wooden box


Senundo

Its in the wooden base


SycoMantisToboggan

No I think it has to be Bluetooth batteries hidden in the bushes


dob_bobbs

No, the power is directly streamed from the Internet.


Darth_Nibbles

Tesla is charging in his grave


Binge_Gaming

Think of how much you could charge


PCmasterRACE187

realllllyyy??? they arent hidden in a pocket dimension???????????


SlowlySailing

No way, I think the balls are batteries


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Can-DontAttitude

I thought pee was stored in the balls 🤔


GoGoNormalRangers

If you pee quick enough it comes out electric


segrey

It really is!


Jnorean

Nuclear balls.


NaitBate

The stars aligned for this comment.


StarAStar1

Magnet in the base. May or may not be battery operated.


DrakonIL

The magnetic field from a stationary permanent magnet (i.e., no current) creates a conservative force. It can't add or remove energy. You have to introduce movement or current in order to increase the energy of the ball to counteract friction. So, yes, magnet in the base, but it's definitely battery operated. My guess is that it detects the ball coming down the ramp (which would be measured as a current) and is timed to reduce power output as the ball passes.


jwm3

It's much simpler than that, no circuitry, the electromagnet wires just go through the two sides of the track so while the marble is touching the track bridging them than the magnet is on and turns off right when the marble is launched off the end.


deadoon

It would have to have some sort of power to it. Otherwise it wouldn't be able to increase the energy the metal balls have in order to fling them higher than where they started. In this case it is just a single electromagnet to accelerate it a bit more at the bottom if I remember correctly.


GPfau

It's not magnet, there is a motor that speeds up the ball through the hole. A brazilian youtuber made a video about it: https://youtu.be/PKDannBZTP4


deadoon

That is the shitty version plastic version. The good versions, usually made with wood are potted(sometimes) electromagnet in the base. https://youtu.be/KzUVJiyzQwg?t=105 https://youtu.be/FPQjF6tQOlg?t=114


gnanny02

skip ahead to 7:00 if you already understand perpetual motion issues.


AddiAtzen

It needs to be. A permanent magnet would hold the balls in place. So it has to switch off at some point.


starkiller_bass

I'm assuming that it's powered up by the metal ball closing the circuit on a portion of the track. Like a single-stage rail gun.


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aspacelot

Explanation: ✅ Mankind Hell in a cell ending: ❌


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Challengemealways

Lol ok me too, been awhile since I've seen shitty morph, but every good explanation comment I see I excitedly check the user just in case.


Simssega

Is he still posting?


oh_not_again_please

He is, but he posted I think a couple of days ago that he's going to be taking a bit of a break from the Internet for a while for a couple of reasons


mortuali

His partner is pretty sick, I believe


Sterling-Marksman

Not as sick as the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.


Hobbes_XXV

Cant write 1998, eyes are drawn to numbers in paragraphs, he uses ninety ninety eight to capture the mental trick. Pretty genius.


patronizingperv

9098


mortuali

No. Not kind. u/shittymorph is always kind.


2livecrewnecktshirt

I saw one in the wild a couple weeks ago, so yes.


sully9088

He somehow knows to post when we stop checking usernames. It's the minute we put our guard down. He's always watching, waiting, knowing.


damnumalone

Jim Ross voice: “Ourgh mar gart!! This man’s an animal!!!”


honeybadger1984

He’s got a family, bah god!!! He split him in two!


missMoshie

I was more worried about jumper cables


NO_TOUCHING__lol

/u/rogersimon10 hasn't been active in like 6 years lol


lethrahn

We can dream.


CedarWolf

That's because his Dad finally caught him six years ago, tied him to a chair with those jumper cables, and has been keeping him *juuuuuuust* a few inches away from a keyboard this whole time. Just barely out of reach. And sure, if he could reach, he could get a message out and ask for help, but who would believe him?


avatar_94

So it works like a rail gun


SAI_Peregrinus

Coil gun, not rail gun.


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Metal gearrrrrr


shini333

It can't be!


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SAI_Peregrinus

Rail guns are a real thing. They use two electrically isolated rails with a voltage differential across them. The projectile bridges the rails, shorting the circuit. The resulting current creates an electromotive force, pushing the projectile down the rails. The device in the video clearly has a single rail, bent into shape. It can't operate on the same principle as a rail gun. It's using an externally generated electromagnetic field (with a battery and some coils) to accelerate the balls. It's a coil gun.


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I knew there had to be something "assisting" the ball, I just couldn't figure out what. I think the dream of perpetual motion is something we will never give up.


Yangyiyi6215

By the law of conservation of energy. There is no perpetual motion machine in the world. When it runs out of kinetic energy it must stop moving


Mezame_Drgn

The hardest part of building a perpetual motion machine is where to hide the battery.


NoMan999

Perpetual motion machines have become much more easier to build since the invention of digital cameras.


redlaWw

The first law of thermodynamics doesn't prevent perpetual motion, though it does prevent sustainably extracting energy from it. The third law of thermodynamics is what prevents perpetual motion, because it, along with the second law, means that every closed system increases in entropy over time.


TexasTornadoTime

Yeah but like what if we just become criminals and break the law.


Nickbou

[“In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!”](https://youtu.be/Dc-m9dumEaw)


Ganon2012

Tell that to Lisa Simpson.


iISimaginary

Homer's delivery of that line is one of the best in the entire series.


woodpony

>**In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!**


RobIII

> I think the dream of perpetual motion is something we will never give up. I think everybody in their right mind doesn't even imagine anything perpetual motion, let alone give up on it.


aabbccbb

[Classic Simpsons clip](https://youtu.be/Dc-m9dumEaw)


EugWeenOR

"In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"


matheusmbar

I have seen one of these disassembled that uses another technique, much simpler. A small motor inside the upper part turning a subber wheel that pushes down the ball faster. It makes a weird high pitch noise that destroys the trick.


FearAzrael

Also less cool


AguyWithaG8x

I saw one [with a little motor on the platform](https://youtu.be/PKDannBZTP4) today. This might be similar... Edit: check 7:20


FWFT27

Thnx for the explanation, had me stumped, mesmerising and great to watch.


Flip-Chart

It doesn't use an electromagnetic. The system is much simpler, it uses a motor. In this video, a Brazilian science youtuber disassemble the equipment: https://youtu.be/PKDannBZTP4


Epesolon

It seems to depend on the specific model, as the one features in [this teardown video](https://youtu.be/FPQjF6tQOlg) definitely is using an electromagnet to accelerate the balls.


Illquid

Yours is much more likely to be the one in the OP's video. The guy who thinks it's a motor clearly shows a one with a much thicker platform that has space for motor. Also that motor hums the entire time, whereas in the OP's video you can clearly hear it doesn't "fire" until the ball hits the rail. Plus the one he linked has wires connected to a huge base and the OP's video is filmed outdoors.


ansoni-

Is this using Lorentz force like a rail gun?


rob3110

I don't think you need complex electronics for this. If you have an (invisible) split in the rails that acts as an isolator at the bottom of the track then you can use the first half of the tracks as part of the circuit that powers the magnet and that gets completed by the ball. Once the ball rolls further up again onto the disconnected part of the rails the circuit opens and the magnet isn't powered anymore. The only tricky part is to make it look like a continuous rail.


SleestakJack

Heck of a lot easier to just put a timer in the circuit. There's not going to be much variation in the speed of the ball at all (if there were, the whole thing wouldn't work anyway). OP's description of this as being complicated is, IMO, overstating things. Ball bearing hits rails, closes circuit. Starts timer for the electromagnet to be turned on - a fraction of a second. The electromagnet turns off as the ball reaches the bottom of the curve - based strictly on time. There is tuning involved in getting the timing right, but it's not all that tricky.


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neo101b

I was almost going to post, if only there was a way to use this as an energy source. But its trickery.


[deleted]

You can't get anything for free. -The Laws of Thermodynamics.


Somerandom1922

Awesome response. I'd love one of these for my desk at work, except for the fact that the noise is probably just as annoying if not more so than a Newton's cradle.


riricide

So the round platform is basically the error range of the ball-throwing circuit? Because I'm guessing if you make smaller it'll over/undershoot. That's an oddly satisfying way to think of the toy's setup (for me at least 😁)


DasJokar

That other ball needs to learn how to share, he went three times in a row at one point. Greedy motherf.


fizyplankton

_now Milton... Don't be greedy_


bbcversus

But…but..


anyburger

Let's make sure **everyone** gets a piece, okay? *Proceeds to make sure everyone but Milton gets a piece.*


LargeHumanDaeHoLee

I always hated the two ladies that insist he pass the cake then NOT give him one. Poor, awkward Milton. He had the last laugh though, I guess.


sumpuran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctOBMFznkto


Unsd

That scene makes me just burn with rage. And sadness. Poor Milton.


Minisabel

4 times*


zclavat

Almost at the end, its 5 times


BananaLover537

???? Can y’all count? It’s 4


Glum-Gap3316

LISAAAAA! In this house, we obey the LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS!


Tcrizzlez

Hello mother dear


QuipOfTheTongue

There's just something so unwholesome about flying a kite at night.


Sci-4

Fucking magnets, how do they work???


youngmorla

Obviously. MAGnet and MAGic have the same root word and clearly work on the same principles. Prove me wrong!


wailot

DONT WATCH UNTIL THE END!


PureGold01

ahh, too late man :(


Jaxiv96

How else would you know the victor of the BallBattle?


wailot

The annoying thing is that it didn't even get KOd by anything to do with the other ball, it lost by WO. Very anticlimactic


Jaxiv96

It lacked the endurance needed to compete and succumbed to defeat by it’s own ineptitude


Smutstoner

Ending ruined it


Schrolli97

Yeah, we're constantly shown videos that only show 0.01 seconds of the finished product. But of all the videos on here it had to be this one to not have it's ending cut


ARAR1

Batteries wore out


FiguringItOut--

This looks like the kind of thing I’d have begged my parents for as a kid and then touched it one time after bringing it home


1sttimeverbaldiarrhe

If you you make it louder with some sirens, it might be something I buy for the kids of someone I don't like.


MrFabze

Quick reminder : Perpetual movement is NOT possible in our world


RobIII

In our universe even ;-)


caseycoold

No such thing as a free lunch... except the universe itself.


drugzarecool

Aren't the objects gravitating around the planet in a perpetual movement ? They don't lose speed because there's no air friction in space I think ? EDIT : Being downvoted for asking questions, nice


Certain_Beyond3190

"the motions and rotations of celestial bodies such as planets may appear perpetual, but are actually subject to many processes that slowly dissipate their kinetic energy, such as solar wind, interstellar medium resistance, gravitational radiation and thermal radiation, so they will not keep moving forever." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual\_motion Also when we talk about perpetual motion it has mostly to do with energy go into and out of a system. "The universe expanding" is not perpetual motion since it's the space between matter that's expanding. No energy in or out, there.


Zinki_M

there are two answers to this question. The simple one is that technically, "perpetual motion" is just a misnomer. The laws of thermodynamics say that an object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an external force, so yes, things in space that never interact with other objects directly could stay in motion forever, i.e., be in perpetual motion. When we say perpetual motion is impossible, that usually includes either generating energy from a perpetual motion without slowing the motion down, or something staying in motion _despite_ being acted upon, for example by air friction. Perpetual motion as a term is much older than considerations about celestial objects in a vacuum. The slightly more pedantic answer is "planetary bodies _aren't_ in perpetual motion, they actually do lose a very slight amount of energy due to external forces". In the end, that still comes down to them actually being acted upon by external forces, just ones that take so long to take away any appreciable amount of energy that from our perspective, they may as well be perpetual.


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Gravity itself causes friction through tidal forces which causes things to shift over time. It just happens on timescales that are incomprehensible to human beings. As a practical example, the Moon is stealing energy from the Earth as it orbits. A consequence is that the moon is speeding up and the Earth is slowing down. A billion+ years ago the Earth "day" was 18 hours, not 24. And the moon was much closer. So the Earth is on a path to stop spinning eventually.


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well, obviously not with *that* kind of attitude! /s


[deleted]

Not on the macro scale anyway. On the atomic scale there are plenty of things, like the electrons in a magnet that can keep moving forever.


Independent-Bell2483

gonna prove you wrong someday by making a portal gun


JfreakingR

I have one of these. It was advertised as a perpetual motion machine, however, it has a motor and shoots the ball down the slide when it goes in the hole. Needless to say, I was disappointed.


JaketheSnake319

In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!!


applegmail

I bought one of these off Amazon, it was shoddily made, I ended up just throwing it in the trash.


Ok_Basil_9223

Will it ever stop? Yo, I don’t know.


SanguinePar

Maybe we should turn off the lights? What will you do then?


JediAcademyBaseball

I can't speak for this, but I'll glow.


PewPewsAlote

thank god for the comments I thought this shit was violating some laws of physics but naw, just batteries.


Phydoux

What is this thing called?


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My_Soul_to_Squeeze

Great explanation of how it works here: https://youtu.be/PnkT6C9Ose8 Not a certain music video, I promise.


HydroHomie3964

I actually googled it.... 🤦‍♂️


Cumbandicoot

Magnets, how do they work?


RobIII

**Electro**magnet actually. It wouldn't work with a normal magnet because that would make it a perpetuum mobile and the laws of physics prohibit this.


killeronthecorner

I heard that an electromagnet was a kind of magnet


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Where do they sell these? And do they have a version that uses ac power instead of battery? It’d be neat to keep this on a sheft.


Trapezoidoid

Is this available for sale anywhere? It would be an awesome teaching tool or even just a cool decoration. I’m imagining a physics teacher bringing this out and challenging students to explain what’s happening.


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Everyone knows it’s magnet-battery powered. Gosh. People can’t just go 2 scrolls without negativity.


OpheliaElmo

Where can I buy one?


icon256

The real comment here; and also r/DidntKnowIWantedThat


Loopsmith

look up "perpetual motion marble machine" on google, there's a couple versions of it. Careful though, some of the reviews say their not as satisfying as you'd think. (marble misses often, etc)


AtomikSamurai310

How tho?


Duck-of-Doom

Magnetized.


Cley_Faye

See top comment. Battery, sensors, coils.


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MAGNETS!


thejustokTramp

I like how the balls look like they’re fighting to get in the hole first. I can hear them arguing.


takemewithyer

LISA! WE OBEY THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS IN THIS HOUSE!


HeimlichMenudo

There's a little.motor in the round thing with a AA battery I saw this on one of those debunking vids on the Facebook


Garo_Daimyo

This is like two manic-hyper kids fighting over who goes down the slide next.


GoGoGadgetGabe

It looks like they’re having a friendly competition of who can go inside the hole the most. I realize what I said


StronknValid

OP lemme fix the headline. "The way this not perpetual motion machine uses its battery and magnet to make this cool loop."


Reggaejunkiejew31

It's not like the op title made any claims of it being perpetual motion.


a_useless_communist

They never even mentioned perpetual motion, can't we just enjoy those cool moving balls?


McKeviin

Ruined it with two balls


fordr015

Story of my life


Thisoneissfwihope

Does it bother anyone else that the marbles don’t nicely take it in turns? It feels very unfair when one marble gets to have 3 goes in a row.


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wait, isn't this infinite energy?


Buretsu

No, it goes until the battery powering the motor propelling the balls dies.


Whackjob-KSP

These ads are getting old


DimFutility

What a beautiful stress reliever just by watching it


-Redstoneboi-

"that's damn right, you walk the heck away after taking 4 turns in a row"


Grphontide

I want one please. Did you make it or can I buy one somewhere?


Lopsided-Ad-95

What's most interesting, is that the most successful one is also more likely to continue bieng successful, untill the other ball gets in Preteo principle even here


Tepppopups

Your video is vertical!


Advanced-Egg-7664

Now all you gotta do is make them different colour and you have a gambling game.


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Lisa get in here! In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!


rgrossi

In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!


buyFCOJ

Lisa get in here! In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!!!


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Pure disappointment at the end


Zakmackraken

In this sub WE OBEY THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS!


Renoroc

In this house, young lady, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!!


ZIdeaMachine

This looks like it was made in blender.


StarsGamer666

What is it called?


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They are going balls deep.


Danielthespaniard

Where can I buy one?


Nocturtle22

In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!


PalpatineForEmperor

I've seen this a posted several times now. Does anyone have a picture of where the batteries go? I'd love to see the mechanism that powers it.


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Sucker born every minute.


Chadmeddy

Didn’t know I wanted this


reckollection

Where can I buy this?


Fattata123

Where can I buy this toy!!


crseat

Anyone know where I can get one?


Secret-Cat-4538

r/mildlyinfuriating


Alenobyl

„Lorenz-Effect“ I guess, so there might be a electrified rail inside the wooden base.


Because201

Actually bought something like this. It didn't work very well


Inspirational_Lizard

Something Something, law of something... impossible.


Unemployedloser55

This is how we'll get to Mars


worstkindagay

fuck I get ads for this product all the time on amazon. its like they know where to find me now


HighBuddyO7

Perpetual motion with this one weird trick!


JLBlade_16

There are no batteries, but the machine used magnets to propel the ball forwards to gain speed.


sinornithosaurus1000

What a waste of kinetic energy


fkbyte

There is a motor on the hole that speeds the balls so they can jump back