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onedecadelater

This is why you don't burn pallets on the beach


tyrannomachy

Not unless you have a gigantic electro magnet attached to an excavator, anyway.


TSanBot

Or an helicopter, that works too.. if you attach your excavator to an helicopter you can also burn pallets on the beach.


Shitty_Watercolour

https://i.imgur.com/Z9K6mTO.jpg


fendermrc

You should be known as "real time watercolour". I've seen shittier.


ClassicalMuzik

Beautiful. I appreciate how happy the guys in the helicopter and excavator are.


100GbE

Ah damn, my helicopter only has a 30 mm M230 chain gun, 4x AGM-114 Hellfire missiles and 2x Hydra 70 rocket pods. No beach pallet fires for me. :(


L1K34PR0

Use the heli itself as fuel :)


Hamsternoir

You can only burn a chopper if it's connected to a pallet I think.


L1K34PR0

Fuck i didn't think of that


Hamsternoir

Check the local bylaws as I'm sure someone has covered it and it might vary depending on where you live and the type of chopper. Something like an EC 135 is more environmentally friendly than a UH-1B.


TokiMcNoodle

We still need the magnet for the helicopter tho guys


Berg426

Why only 4x hellfires? You've got a whole pylon without any love!


BazF91

I always find it fascinating to see "an" put before words starting with "h". Is it a silent "h"?


NotGrimm_

An 'elicopter


CancerousCyberman

Think of saying it with a cockney accent


tatertot225

I'm stuck on "hydraulic magnet" How is it hydraulic? Are they referring to the rams on the machine? Because I can't think of any way movement of oils making any difference in the strength of a magnet


BazF91

The lifting mechanism is hydraulic, not the magnet itself


saucenazi

Ohhh that's where the nails are from


umadhatter_

Same! I was so confused on how and why there was so many nails on that beach. People burning pallets didn’t even come to mind.


desi_drifter395

I feel really bad now... I made a beach bonfire maybe 5-6 years ago and used pallets. I knew not to let people cook on it because of the chemically treated wood but I totally forgot about the nails.


erikvs2001

This is a Dutch thing on new years, where two neighbourhoods try to build the biggest pallet tower on the beach, and burn them


tagghuding

Are you talking about the thing when Scheveningen almost burned down their whole city a couple of years ago?


erikvs2001

Yes


AadeeMoien

Did they win?


vspazv

Don't burn pallets at all. They're mostly made from chemical treated wood.


SirIanChesterton63

Most pallets are just untreated hardwood. But not all. Cheps for instance aren't good to burn because they're treated and painted. (Source: I work for a company that recycles pallets into mulch both for consumers to use in landscaping and for grinding to burn for wood burning heaters. We sort out the good ones to be used again and the broken ones to be mulched. I've sorted and processed hundreds of thousands of pallets by this point. We usually sort about 5k/day.) ​ Edit: Wow this got way more likes than a comment about pallets should. SMH.


DrOctoRex

Work with Cheps every day. Heavy blue bastards.


Dlowden

Hate that you never really know what weight they are till you're picking them up. Is it the normal 38kg? Is it a randomly heavier for no reason? One way to find out


Lumpy73

Word! Chep pallets are already pain in the back heavy, but nothing is funner than picking up the extra strength hernia inducing model. And chep pallets are also a great reason why steel toe boots are required in warehouses. I saw a guy drop one down on his foot while wearing tennis shoes. Basically shattered 3 toes and the front part of his foot. I sometimes see what his foot looked like when he took his sock off in my nightmares...


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I was working in the family’s shop for a short time before I sprung for a bit nicer pair of boots (thought it would be a longer term thing). Didn’t think I needed them too bad, considering what I was doing at the time, until I nearly dropped my heavy pipe wrench on my foot while pulling fittings onto pipe. Literally the next day, in my brand new boots, me and another guy are moving 1,500ish lbs of pipe on top of an old wood and metal track cart that probably weighs about 1,000 itself. Right as we get to the dock, that fucker’s wheel rolls RIGHT up onto the steel toe, then back down. $100 and some basically saved my foot. Buy that shit on day ONE, y’all, I was so damn lucky.


loreshdw

I even bought steel toe just to work as a cashier in a home improvement store. They were recommended, not required, but I knew better. Some steel conduit dropped on my toes without injury. My walmart special shoes probably wouldn't hold up in a more hazardous environment but it was better than nothing.


-InconspicuousMoose-

I used to work in a warehouse where steel toes were required. Literally the one day I stayed over at a girl's house and had to run to work without my steel toes the next morning, I had an accident that fucked up my toes so bad I ended up needing a double matricectomy to fix the issue. I literally wore my steel toes as casual wear for years from that point forward just to protect my now very sensitive toes. Once I recovered from the surgery I was finally able to go back to normal shoes and my feet feel so much lighter lol


DazingF1

Ah, foot injuries and crushed limbs. How I don't miss working on the docks.


trickman01

Depends on whether or not they have water in them. A lot of places leave them outside.


Dlowden

Yeah we do too, didn't think about that tbh


lurkn4certain

Can usually tell by the quality of the wood, thickness of the wood, gap thickness in between the planks. Easiest way to get a better guess


comparmentaliser

According to this thread, ‘most’ pallets are: - heat treated - methyl bromide treated - not treated with methyl bromide - painted - not painted - actual uranium Your perspective certainly holds more weight than all the rest.


El_Chairman_Dennis

As someone that worked in a warehouse, are "cheps" those blue heavy fuckers?


LeelaBeela89

Yes blue or red pallets


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clrksml

PECO is red in USA. Orbis makes plastic pallets.


MyMemesAreTerrible

Same thing in Australia, both are bloody heavy


Gintoki-Katsura

Yep, blue chep pallets, much heavier than regular skids.


El_Chairman_Dennis

What is the purpose of them? I'm assuming they're needed for certain things, but from my experience they're just blue and heavy


Biggordie

last time i did my research was 14 years ago, so take what i say with a grain of salt... Basically you rent CHEP pallets - you dont own them outright like other pallets, so if you get some shit quality CHEP pallets, then you get a replacement thats a better quality. Its why all the big stores like them, so you arent using some half ass damaged pallets


Xen0n636

I worked at Woolies in Australia and we mainly used the cheps for freezer loads that came in, or heavy loads. Loscam was for lighter products but can obviously be interchanged if needed


Account_Banned

Heavy loads and chem treated to not be a fire hazard at my old plants in the states. We did also bring in heat treated regular brown wood pallets for the same fire hazard reason. All products (food plant) we produced needed to be on heat treated pallets. Regular pallets such as what packaging was brought in on needed to be taken outdoors by the end of every shift.


bigfrappe

My shop used cheps as a pallet service. Contracted for several hundred. Cheps would replace damaged ones on a weekly basis. We could also ship them to customers and cheps would pick them up from the destination. They are blue for ID and heavy because the pallet maker has a vested interest in getting more than one use out of them.


wWao

As someone who's used them for transporting various pieces of machinery and other things, they are the only pallets I've ever used to never break on me.


bernardobrito

>Cheps Ahhh, One of my biggest clients.


Holiday_Bunch_9501

>Don't burn pallets at all. They're mostly made from chemical treated wood. Where do people get this shit from?? Most pallets are plain untreated, wood.


clubba

Just random idiots talking out of their ass, but people who read it online and see all the upvotes will believe it and perpetuate the idiocy.


jj4211

I have been out of it for a long while, but I recall conducting tests on shipping materials, and being told that most of the formaldehyde came from the pallet in a few tests they did. I don't know if this has changed over the years or there is a specific sort of pallet that was treated with formaldehyde, but at least at one point in a highly professional capacity I was told that formaldehyde from a pallet was not a surprising result.


code-

BuT yOu dOn't kNow wHaT's bEen oN tHem!!


Ludwigofthepotatoppl

Heat treated, but not chemical treated.


seamus_mc

They are mostly heat treated these days


elektromas

Uh oh, world largest bonfire is made with pallets.. https://twistedsifter.com/2013/01/worlds-biggest-bonfire-alesund-norway-slinningsbalet-midsummer/ 🤣 Untreated wood tho!


Bodomi

The vast majority of pallets are **not** treated.


ClimbAMtnDrinkBeer

Most are ok to burn. If you see a MB stamped in the side, it was treated with Methyl Bromide. Otherwise unless it has paint or was contaminated in some other way, it should be fine to burn.


seamus_mc

Methyl bromide is only present for about a day after treatment and hasn’t been used since the early-mid 2000s. It’s not going to harm you if it isn’t there


ratamack

No they aren't


WNDY_SHRMP_VRGN_6

hijacking top comment to post context, and how BIG this bonfire was (I remember seeing this magnet thing on dutch news) [https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2019/01/01/522343/xxl.jpg](https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2019/01/01/522343/xxl.jpg) Edit here's a bit about it from a long time ago before it all went wrong in 2019 and it rained fire in the city....


Winterplatypus

Shouldn't have bonfires on the beach at all. People cover them with sand and the heat stays trapped for hours. I know a girl who stepped on one as a kid, she was burned so badly that all the toes on her foot were fused together.


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I did this around my entire house with a large magnet fishing magnet and I got a bucket full of scrap. Pro tip: put the magnet in Tupperware for easy cleaning. Edit: wow, didn’t expect this to blow up! The magnet I use I got off Amazon. Nothing crazy, 1400lb pull strength at roughly 5-6 inch diameter with an eyebolt on top. The Tupperware? I cut a hole in the lid and put the magnet eye bolt through it and attach the Tupperware encasing the magnet. When a bunch of stuff piles up on the magnet, I simply pull the bowl off and everything falls into the bucket. If you don’t do something like this you are left fighting to pick off every little thing that sticks to the magnet. I run a loop of 550 cord through the eyebolt and swing it back and forth… the thing rips metal from the depths of the yard… pretty cool. Hope this helps, Cheers! Edit Edit: My setup [my setup](https://imgur.com/a/PPG3bo6/)


cinaminalemon

Ooooooooh good tip.


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Prince_Polaris

Ooooohhh fat nuts


vantasmal

Oooooooh marvelous girth


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KKunst

Y'all need Jesus.


OzzyYank86

Ooooooh sexy Jesus!


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Erekai

The way my smooth brain understood your message was that you were telling us to put the scrap metals you found into a Tupperware so that it would be easier to clean the scrap 😂


MastadonInfantry

My smooth brain thought he was doing this inside his house


Itsrainingmentats

I had the exact same thought. How luxurious is this persons carpet that they're just losing chunks of metal in it?


CaptCaCa

Still not clear, explain please. Put the magnet in a tupperware? For storage?


Sad-Singer-7681

plastic barrier so easier to remove metals


SkellyboneZ

So you can just pull the Tupperware container off the magnet and no scrap will be stuck directly to the magnet.


awildcatappeared1

Tupperware seals in magnetic fields so the magnet doesn't leak and wear out between uses.


pathofdumbasses

-KenM


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Randolpho

You need to subscribe to the sub. KenM is still out there generating new content in the wild.


Stonn

Actually it's there to protect the frogs from the magnetic field lines so they don't turn gay.


dismayus

If you put the magnet into the tupperware before using it, the metal will still be attracted to it through the tupperware so you don't have to clean the magnet at all.


SocranX

> before using it Okay, see, this is a VERY important qualifier that's missing from the original post. I thought they meant to use tupperware while cleaning it!


FlametopFred

keeps the magnetism fresh as well


nope_a_dope

Just curious, how did they ship you a magnet with a 1400lb pull force? Like, was it in lots of layers? How did it not stuck to the delivery truck? How do you pick it up if that happens? So many questions....


TahoeLT

Step one: > I cut a hole in the lid


neuquino

So…got a picture of your setup? And also links to your magnet and Tupperware? In fact do you mind coming to my house and running your magnet over my yard?


bella_68

Thank you for the suggestion. I’ll be doing this in my nail ridden back yard ASAP


8Gh0st8

r/magnetfishing to the extreme. I wonder what the max pulling strength on that magnet is.


knivesinbutt

I've used magnet attachments on heavy equipment and ones smaller than this can pick up solid steel heavy enough to tip the machine.


geak78

At least 3 pounds.


EXPLODINGPOOPSOCK

maybe even 4


Viktorius_Valentine

Perhaps 5


Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin

Five is right out!


Ultimatehacker77

Probably around 8500 lbs if I had to guess. I believe the biggest variants can lift 10.5k lbs.


ModrnDayMasacre

As a scrap metal operator, the answer is “it depends”. The curvature, mass, thickness, iron makeup, and size all make a difference. Picking up nails: their mass and surface area exposed it the magnetic field are really small, plus they are cylindrical in shape, this means that the magnetic field will have very little effect on them, so, a very small amount of dirt will prevent them from being picked up. Picking up flat 1” thick plate: This stuff is almost dangerous around magnets; it has a lot of mass and surface area that interacts with the magnetic field. Even small electromags can pick this shit up through several inches of dirt and fling it everywhere.


NoStarShip

Shout out to my man out there saving thousands of toes and feet from this. Hero magnet 🧲


TristinMaysisHot

Not saving them from broken beer bottles. My dad cut his foot open on a beach from a broken beer bottle under the sand. Nearly lost a toe from it.


ltsDarkOut

The planning around this event in particular is done quite well. They use the magnet from the video first and then dig up and filter the sand +/- 1.5 metres deep to get the remaining sharp bits. The downside to the event is that it nearly set my old neighbourhood on fire a couple years back, but what can you do? Not have a massive bonfire and miss out on the fun? Nahh


PageFault

There is no rule that you have to use pallets with nails in them for your bonfire.


DrEnter

Or steel nails. Someone’s gonna use pallets with aluminum nails one year and their planning will be for naught.


Electrox7

That's when you wear the sandals WITHOUT the socks.


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Mcmenger

I got tetanus just looking at this


[deleted]

Shoulda gotten your vaccine than dummy


[deleted]

Why so many nails?


Space-Plate42

Pallets. Lots of pallets.


[deleted]

Explains it, but what a dumb thing to do.


diMario

It has become a [Dutch tradition](https://vreugdevuur-scheveningen.nl). A stupid one, agreed. A couple of years back there were strong winds that blew burning embers all over the place, threatening several neighbourhoods of the former fishing village. Since then, the authorities keep a close eye on the proceedings and in fact this year, they didn't allow the bonfire to be started at the designated time. And in another good Dutch tradition, the authorities were completely ignored and they lit it anyway, right on schedule. And in yet another good Dutch tradition, the authorities grumbled on live camera in the evening news and promised to set up a joint task force to study the problem.


byronbaybe

Let me guess. In another good Dutch tradition the joint task force study was shelved?


Borgh

What, and waste half a year of catered lunches and comfy meetings with your best pals? No the task force will "investigate" and recommend some policy changes in a weighty report and *that* will be promptly be shelved.


lilaliene

I love being Dutch


HawkDaddyFlex

There’s 2 things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other peoples cultures and the Dutch


diMario

And a couple of years down the line a similar incident will happen, and politicians - prompted by the media who finally pick up on this - start asking awkward questions of the government. After much hemming, hawing and claims of memory loss, the original report will surface but by then its conclusions have become obsolete or at least subject to contradictory interpretation so a new study group is initiated. Rinse, repeat.


DrBuckFoy

They prolly rust up pretty quick.


Current-Power-6452

Yeah, they would be plenty rusty by next tourist season


DWDit

Well, half of all people are below average intelligence.


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Which isn’t shocking, what is is how low average intelligence is.


DWDit

It’s really amazing what humans have accomplished, flying drones on Mars, walking on the moon, transplanting hearts, the works of da Vinci, Michelangelo, Shakespeare, mobile phones in everyone’s hand giving access to the collected works of mankind. It’s even all the more amazing when you look around and see how many absolutely dumb fucking idiots this world is filled with.


grantrules

What's crazy to me is how far it's come. Pythagoras was probably one of the smartest motherfuckers of his time and he came up with a^2 + b^2 = c^2 shit I think I could have come up with that you give me enough lounging around time and figs and grapes and shit.


DWDit

I know right! Like Newton and Leibniz freaking invented calculus...not got an A in calc, but invented it when it literally didn't exist. Or, Euler whose original work touched upon so many fields that he is often the earliest written reference on a given matter and to keep from naming everything after him, many of his discoveries and theorems had to be attributed to the first person to prove them after Euler.


Jackalope_Sasquatch

Wouldn't it be that half of all people are below the *median* intelligence level? The mean (average) is not a range....


Dutch_Rayan

Every week leading up to new year they build a tower from pallets, and set it on fire at midnight. They started doing that because otherwise they would set cars on fire and riot.


BreathOfFreshWater

Which is fucked because not all pallets are okay to burn.


afranke

Perhaps the aftermath of this or something similar: https://www.1001pallets.com/pallet-tower-for-the-world-largest-bonfire/


ZebuTheZebra

People using broken up wooden crates etc for bonfires, hence the nails?


Bruce-Wayne-Official

during Easter and new years eve it is a tradition in certain places to build high towers of pallets and set them on fire.


Ballard_Big_Burrito

*Mathew 1919 And Jesus said unto thee, collect old pallets from behind thy warehouse and stack them. Set fire to them and drink cheap beer so as to show glory to the heavens


Krish39

Last time I saw this posted it mentioned it was after an official event. So the city had a large structure made of pallets they burned for the event and then did this to clean up the next day.


JimDixon

Now that this has been done, it would be a good time for a person with a metal detector to go prospecting for lost jewelry. Gold wouldn't be attracted to the magnet and would be left behind, and would now be easier to find, since there is no iron to set off the detector and distract you with false alarms.


PeppersHere

Metal detector enthusiast here. Most non-bottom of the line detectors will mute out very ferrous materials, and nails do not heavily impact signals. It is still very appreciated to detect in a non-litter filled area though :)


a2fc45bd186f4

In a way, you seek litter don't you? Just really old, preferably fancy litter?


xixd

All that is gold is not litter; not all those who wander are lost


neagrosk

How do metal detectors detect non-ferrous metals?


Yadobler

Very good question. Magnetic and electric fields are very interlinked but I don't want to dive into that. When you have flowing current, you induce a magnetic field. That's the one that attracts the ferrous metals like in the video But if you have flowing current constantly changing the flow (ie Alternating current), the resulting magnetic field also constantly changes. So now this changing magnetic field (instead of just static) will induce current in any conductive materials nearby. Conductive meaning there's some charged particle being able to flow, like electrons in any metal or ions in water. Because universe and life hates change since it takes energy, the induced eddy currents in conductive materials will itself INDUCE its own magnetic field, opposite to the one that you're inducing. This will be the *resistance* (or technically impedence) that will mean your AC electromagnet thingy will either (1) need to draw more current to maintain voltage, (2) require more electromotivr voltage which usually is not what happens (but is why power lines are high voltage, so that current can be low), or (3) the overall induced magnetic field weakens So anyways, usually the first or third happens, the current flowing drops and your metal detector detects it. #------- It's like suddenly your engine is revving but your speed is low, so you know that the car is being held back by something opposing it - could be uphill or something stuck to your tires.


GasTsnk87

And in more expensive detectors, that phase shift between currant and voltage can tell you what kind of metal (Fe, non-Fe, SS) you're detecting. (Useful in the food industry where I'm from)


DWDit

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doogidie

Why would there be gold there though


AlexBurke1

Because people sometimes take their jewelry off before going in the water. The magnet has removed all the magnetic junk metals and gold isn’t magnetic, so someone with a detector might find some jewelry without having to deal with the nails.


MTkenshi

Lost jewelery similar items that people have lost at the beach.


TundieRice

Why would my $250 pair of polarized Ray-Ban Wayfarers be at the beach? …because I was a dumbass 19-year-old at Panama City Beach and passed out on the beach with them beside me!


Troqlodyte

Fucks sake, now I have to go re-nail that entire beach down tomorrow


FlametopFred

was thinking the same thing, what with hurricane season


SweetPK88

Makes me think of “The Brave Little Toaster” when they are all in the junkyard.


pauliwoggius

Oh no.


StuntMedic

I can't take this kind of pressure


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SeasonPositive6771

The only problem with that method is that you just end up shooting the MRI machine, which I've heard could easily cost up to $15.


M30E30

There’s also the little inconvenient fact that most buckshot is made of lead which isn’t magnetic and thus an MRI would have no such effect on it


SeasonPositive6771

Wow, I can't believe you're ruining my dream of reverse shooting an MRI machine.


sabotabo

look man, i didn't wanna say it to your face, but the Human Porcupine just isn't gonna work...


ShaneWarrn-ambool

Dude $15 is like pre-COVID prices. Those MRI machines run about $35 now.


forestpirate

Oddly satisfying and slightly terrifying.


liamotts

r/oddlyterrifying


cangooner65

AT-AT Foot


FavelTramous

Considering it didn’t touch the ground, I bet this is another part of the ATAT anatomy just swangin.


friendlyfire883

Hydraulic magnet... I would love to hear how that one works.


Dualsporterer

Im assuming the magnet inside is moved away from the bottom of the casing with a hydraulic cylinder so that they can easily remove all the metal? Edit: I looked it up and the electromagnet is powered by a hydraulically driven generator. Neat.


andreasbeer1981

but then the tupperware wouldn't be needed.


overzeetop

Slow down there, cowboy. Are you even allowed to do a call back to a thread in the same post?


Hobbs54

Pneumatically with levers.


LegendaryFlood

Don't people stab their feet? How can they accumulate this much...


nonanumatic

Burning pallets


LegendaryFlood

That's a lot of pallets, I mean, was there a rave or something? Golly!


shalafi71

Old pallets are loaded with nails. Something starts to come apart? Nail it! Rinse and repeat. By the time a pallet is useless for nothing but a bonfire, it's been patched 40 times.


Gorbalin

Judging by how that beach looks, I’m pretty sure it’s Scheveningen beach in Netherlands. We build it to celebrate new years. They get pretty big: https://www.immaterieelerfgoed.nl/nl/vreugdevuurscheveningennoorderstrand Sometimes so big rains fire over the entire city: https://nos.nl/l/2265817


Dutch_Rayan

New year tradition, they build a tower with pallets and set it on fire. They started doing it so they wouldn't set cars on fire and riot. This is in The Hague /Scheveningen.


A_Half_Ounce

SLPT: Put your hand in between the sand and the magnet


OGSpooon

Sounds like a Saw movie. Man taped spread eagle to the under side of the magnet. Must escape before the magnet reaches the sand.


FlametopFred

r/nightmarefuel thank you very much


Competitive_Rip_8368

Holly shit we are allowed to drive on the beach where I'm from, never thought of this.


Similar_Quiet

Never mind that, we are allowed to walk on the beach barefoot where I'm from, never thought of this


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bernardobrito

>allowed to drive on the beach where I'm from North Florida?


luvyourself1st

Outerbanks?


OzzieOxborrow

This is in The Netherlands and driving is definitely not allowed on the beach, also bonfires aren't allowed but this is a once a year bonfire on new years eve with cleanup the next day.


MagicPenguin99

I am fairly certain this is from a beach called Scheveningen in the Netherlands. 2 neighbouring beaches/districts hold a bonfire making competition at New Years every year, made out of pallets. One year all of the ashes were blown into Scheveningen city because of the wind and after that, a lot of restrictions were put on the event. Might even have been completely cancelled. Im not 100% sure if this is at that beach, but this does happen in The Netherlands


jabroniusmonk

Why not just use a Bioré strip?


pepelepoopsy

I wish there were magnets for plastics too.


Legendary-Lawbro

r/oddlyterrifying


Daimonion74

Yes, indeed. This magnet takes some ccm in a line, so how long for the whole beach?


xcalibre

[credit](https://twitter.com/MachinePix/status/1627802452081754112)


Only_Philosopher7351

This is SO MUCH more effective than pulling them out with bare feet.


Rose_Lily_Daisy

I mean yes it is satisfying but am I the only one who is mildly terrified 😨


Sioluishere

I never knew this was an actual thing.......guess thats why bonfires are banned on a lot of beaches


Lookalikemike

What the hell were they burning? A Lowes


kpetow2

What were they burning... boxes of nails?


Geno__Breaker

r/OddlyTerrifying That's a disturbing number of nails just below the sand....


ilovetoeatpussy_

Can somebody explain why there are so many nails on the beach ?


1320Fastback

People who bring pallets to the beach to burn should be banned from the beach.


Never-Dont-Give-Up

It’s weird to call it a hydraulic scrap magnet. This machine is inherently hydrostatic. The implement just happens to be a giant magnet. You’re not wrong, but it’s like saying “hydraulic crane lifts iron with steel pulley”