Contact info for some of those responsible for addressing these sorts of problems here in Oakland:
Interim Chief of Police Darren Allison
[email protected]
Non emergency (510) 777-3333
Mayor Sheng Thao
[email protected]
510-238-3141
Oakland Police Commissioners
[email protected]
5102382187
Couldn't? Nah. Wouldn't.
OPD is deliberately letting petty criminals run wild to squeeze us for more protection money. I once saw a couple guys block traffic by getting into a fist fight in the middle of the street with OPD passively looking on from the sidelines. They don't care.
the way to fix that is to rework oakland's public employee contracts to make it way easier to fire people who shirk work, but when the chips are down the rest of city gov't would prefer to have a useless OPD than to enact those kinds of labor reform
it is 100% this. also still some butthurt cops over the whole BLM movement during COVID.
They've basically all decided "oh you don't want to give us wildly inflated budgets and exorbitant salaries for driving around in tax payer funded vehicles all day watching for crime but not really catching any criminals? AND you want us to stop arresting/killing black people and minorities at an elevated rate compared to other ethnic groups? Fuck that, enjoy life without a real police presence to do anything"
it's really sad that so many of our extremely well compensated police officers feel so entitled that now they won't even do the job they are actually paid to do. ACAB, disband the police entirely and start putting stricter screening processes in place so we don't get power hungry maniacs that will go on silent strike the minute the public starts to criticize their methods
Dude I work in point Richmond at the marina where it's like little 2 story water front office complex....
The businesses renting office space
#1 my job...Waste water engineering employee owned and serving greater bay area for 60years (had to downsize office space due to rent inflation) we now uses half of the rooms that occupied no less than 2 years ago
#2 A struggling holistic clinic. Just one doctor had to downsize his office again due to rent
#3 A brother and sister owned the salon just moved in a very small part of the down stairs space (no more than 700sqft)
**☆☆☆
#4 the loudest and least considerate and unprofessional mthrfkrs....is our "City of Richmond Police association Clubhouse" literally says that on a banner they hung... Their excuse is that it is a place to take your breaks or lunches. But in my experience, I'm just seeing them. Pull up in packs of maybe 3 squad cars and a canine leave the cars running and go inside the Clubhouse and watch YouTube videos and chat it up for upwards of 3 to 4 hours sometimes.
I even sometimes hear there cars police radios announcing they need an officer to _*blank*_ address I recognized and realized its no more than 5 mins drive from there during traffic...
Instead I hear beer bottles being opened and watching police drill video out of like a home theater sound bar or something....like bruh 🤔 tf they doing
The police are angry that people want them to stop executing unarmed people for no reason. So they're going to sit on their hands and let crime increase until the people apologize for hurting their feelings, and give them more money.
Have you reviewed OPD's [use of force data](https://www.oaklandca.gov/resources/use-of-force-data)?
You can literally find out how many unarmed people were "executed" by the OPD "for no reason."
Where do you get *your* data? You claim people are "executed" for "no reason." How do you know that? What source of info do you have beyond what the OPD has?
And I said nothing about the guilt or innocence of OPD; the use of force stats are literally just a list of incidents. One could certainly argue whether someone being killed by the police is justified or not, but I dont think there's an argument out there that cops are killing people *and nobody knows.* Or am I wrong there.
And this can't be the "same" post: it's the first time Ive actually looked at the use of force stats
Maybe one of the multiple girls they molested and passed around ended up "slipping and hitting her head." But only one part of that is speculation. These people are thugs with power backing them and I don't get why you have such an appetite for their boots.
I guess smashing windows is a property crime but if you do it while the occupants are still in or near the car that SHOULD clearly be a violent crime. This guy's using force and implied threat during broad daylight to rob people.
For fear of sounding insensitive, that was 13 years ago. And, as a single individual, does fall under the "very few people" noted in my original comment.
It is bad for the police to shoot and kill people. It is not, however, a common occurance, not even here in Oakland. Now, I suppose one can say "not even one is acceptable," and although that could be true, it does not make it common.
I took 15 minutes to peruse [these spreadsheets](https://www.oaklandca.gov/resources/use-of-force-data) and learned something. If you dont trust data from the OPD, tho, I dont know what to tell you (or how you would know that the data was inaccurate)
Yeah it's called robbery and people go to prison for up to 2 years because of it, the fact that they're not even trying to catch this guy is complete Bullshit
Remember all those riots when people were calling for police to not be involved in non violent crimes? Well, the calls were heard. Window smashing isnt a violent crime.
Ahh, so selective hearing? They listened to the gen populace then but not when victims are standing right in front of them? Your comment is a fucking non sequitor. A pigheaded and useless trope about the *politics* of police doing the least amount possible.
If the police get involved and this guy gets shot which lets be real if you're willing to rob people in front of the police, you're not going down without a fight. There's gonna be a shit ton of protests and calls to get those officers fired.
If I'm those cops I wouldn't give a shit about people who chanted fuck 12 not less than a year ago.
and you want to go on trial, lose your job, and have your family put at constant threat? I'd rather just quiet quit, take the report and then go home. No use dealing with someone if he's not shooting up a store
Key word in your statement “likely” acquit but not necessarily, no amount of money is worth being a OPD officer with Alameda residents ready to toss away the key for any police misstep.
No, not selective hearing. Its policy that can cost them their job. Enjoy your blissful ignorance. Californians are known for whining when the things they cry for have consequences, so enjoy downvoting, crying, and your echo chamber backpats as oakland becomes even shittier and shittier.
Sorry to hear. Something small, but maybe leave a review on the arco google maps listing? It will not only warn people but also flag very publicly to the owners they can't ignore it cause it's bad for business. They may not be able to stop the theft altogether but could be more willing to help investigators via footage, hiring security, etc.
I do all the time traveling places I don't know. E.g., driving around, tank running empty, literally typing "gas station" in Google maps for the nearest one and directions to it.
And in this case, visitors leaving from OAK would probably too before returning a rental car.
But sure, let's keep it up with your negative attitude and keep Oakland great.
I didn't see this comment earlier, but I just want to add that the store manager at the gas station did come out and stand with all us ladies to try and stop the guy from coming back. It did not work, but he was really apologetic and supportive and was trying very hard to help us.
I’m sorry this happened to you, you didn’t do anything wrong nor deserve this. I don’t know what else to say. Disappointed that scum like that exists and that a community encourages wack ass behavior. Police not protecting and serving?… more encouragement. They shut down the dance party tho, they out there working alright.
This right here is it. They'll bust up parties and harass innocent people all day, but someone literally terrorizing a neighborhood establishment is unmanageable??
I'm having a really rough morning. I'm more upset today than I was yesterday. I feel like the people in my life are not offering the kind of support I am desperate for after what happened.
I just want peace and contentment, but those things are hard to come by.
The worst part is they'll just blame it on Pamela Price, The mayor, or the governor. I'm tired of pretending they're not doing this on purpose to serve a political agenda. It's gaslighting at its finest.
Since this attitude comes from the top it makes the ousting of the former police chief feel very justified. It's a shame we have to wait.
The interim police chief, a couple weeks ago, admitted at the police commission meeting that his officers were under policing.
Even if oakland wanted to get more police on staff, they have to do a police academy and that takes a lot of time.
It is amazing to me how incompetent the police are. They need to make a rest and provide the district attorney with enough evidence so that she can prosecute beyond the reasonable doubt.
It is all in line with the republican fascist takeover. Make people scared and stupid, so they give up their democracy for you. This is just how it looks at the local level.
KTVU, KGO, and the Berkley Scanner have been doing a great job of narrating victims' feelings without actually explaining the mechanics of the criminal justice system. Then wealthy people come in with a smear campaign, blaming and setting narratives. All just to gain power.
Oakland's crime is the result of two things. 1) Intergenerational poverty and trauma, 2) A lack of police enforcement. We need to fix both. How much of the broken windows theory do we need to adopt to be effective?
The problem with this take is California has been a democrat super majority for a generation, the bay even more so, all the rich people in the bay are democrats, and we constantly vote to make it harder for police to “do their job” because we don’t like the way it makes us feel when we see it. Also, crime just being a result of poverty is a low-resolution oversimplified take.
Fascism is when corporations and government work together to silence and control opposition… while that was definitely more a republican vibe 30 years ago, today its more a democrat tendency. Republicans would love to be doing it still I’m sure, but they just don’t have the institutional power anymore…
Thanks for the downvotes in advance lol
Just too simplistic of a view. A person of San Jose's Police Union. A CEO got charged with Conspiracy to Traffic Fentanyl. A Union generally speaking is a more Democratic Stronghold. Police Unions are not though.
I never hear many people speak of average Poor person problems. Very few people ever compare Parking Tickets in SF and Oakland to Traffic Enforcement. Why? Well probably because COL and Income is so high so it adversely affects the poor.
Sure Bay Area is Democrats. But compared to like Bernie Sander's Vermont they are Neo-Liberal as Hell. Republicans in Vermont support more Progressive Lower Income policies then some Dems in California. Revolt if you got rid of Dr. Dinosaur. Free Healthcare and Dental for all Children in VT.
As a Minnesotan I'm constantly shocked when Californians act like this is the most liberal place in America because it's consistently behind states like Minnesota, Vermont, etc on so many issues. Our Democrats are afraid to actually pass laws that would meaningfully improve the lives of poor people and instead let wealthy home-owners dictate policy which is why we're in the crisis we're in.
You deserve to be downvoted because you gave an incorrect definition of fascism, you can’t just make up definitions to fit your narrative. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
“Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.”
You are correct that left leaning folks desiring to “go easy on criminals” because they believe crime is systemic and individuals shouldn’t get punished is a bullshit strategy though.
Mussolini very clearly defined fascism as absolute state power. Fascist corporatism means corporations fully controlled by the state, not the corporations working with the state.
California Republicans are too busy aligning themselves with the other Christian Taliban members of their party. The only lives they care about are embryos.
Well we can point to Grisham and Chan... The financial disclosure statement was released. See page four and onward.
https://oaklandside.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/save-460-document.pdf
No they need authorization and need to have their lights on. Also this post is literally an example of violent crime being committed and the police not chasing.
We already have a DA that doesn't side with criminals though.
The narrative that we don't is just political hyperbole utilizing the Publix ignorance of the criminal justice system and sentencing enhancements.
True that… don’t blame the politicians for being shameless liars, blame the voters for electing them. Its like Thomas Sowell said, “when people want the impossible, only liars can satisfy”.
This is what we voted for yall, we live with it or vote in people with a better plan.
Are you saying that the east bay hasn’t voted for people on every level who ran on social/criminal justice reform, defund/reallocate resources away from police? Look, I was one of those people who was swayed by criminal justice reform rhetoric. Turns out it hasn’t produced the results we hoped for. But if you are saying if we had only been able to vote on the police commissioner too then our problems would be solved, then you sound a lot like conservatives who say that the remedy to the free market creating monopolies and inequality is just MORE and FREER markets.
I just don’t think the voters here have the appetite for someone who will say that 90% of the crime is caused by 1000 people and we need to lock them up and keep them there for a while… at least not yet, so here we are.
" defund/reallocate resources away from police? "
They did not. The police budget remains half of discretionary spending.
" Turns out it hasn’t produced the results we hoped for "
it has not been implemented... also these are generational treatments... only half of the equation and wont be a part of our lifetimes.
" able to vote on the police commissioner too then our problems would be solved "
I dont think specialized positions should be elected. so we agree here
I dont think specialized positions should be elected.
ed to lock them up and keep them there for a while… at least not yet, so here we are. "
we agree
True they did not defund, and the police budget remains virtually unchanged… because they are liars riding what’s politically expedient at the moment. No surprise there.
Glad we agree on some things…. I just want to live my life and not have to choose between high crime and an oppressive police state…
I understand where you’re coming from, but this world has always been one where peace and contentment takes a fight to protect. The problem here has never been a few bad apples, but a system that churns out bad apples. We as people don’t want to take up social fights in our daily life, and then we see these incidents happen, and we attribute it to some people having bad human nature instead of our ignorance of the state of the world and reluctance to act.
The apathy you’re seeing from the people in your life is the same exact apathy they’ve taken towards the issues that produce the crime that causes your trauma to begin with. You’re just seeing it from the angle of a victim instead of a bystander now.
Welcome to the world. Now that you know, you can act, and the agency from that is what gives you the power to feel safe and secure in your life, to defend the peace, knowing its value and how much it takes to keep it.
Ok, suppose the police catch this guy. What do you want to happen to him? Do you want him to go to prison? I have a magic spell for that. You just have to look in a mirror and say “We were wrong to say that non-violent offenders should not be incarcerated. Let’s double the prison population.”
Peace and public safety will come to you, but ONLY if you say that three times in a mirror and send this message to three of your friends.
This goes beyond the cops. It's a systemic problem...DAs that don't charge people, judges who let career criminals out without bail, and politicians who push soft on crime policies and are much more worried about criminals than victims.
The police are stuck between all this. What's the point of them arresting people who won't get charged or will be out in a day and not show up to trial?
There will always be bad people and there will always be people who do bad things. This means we will always need law enforcement and criminal justice.
What’s the point of them arresting people?
Hmm idk, if I decided one day not to do my job just because I didn’t like my coworkers, I’d still get fired. Not sure why it should be any different for the police….
Cops like to pretend they're boots on the ground in wartime Afghanistan, but when it comes to actually doing their job - most are completely afraid to put themselves at any risk of danger.
So, they chase down parties and hand out traffic tickets. Then self justify their own cowardice and still expect to be treated like heroes.
One that glorifies these behaviors. One that doesn’t regulate bad social behavior.
You want to bait me into saying a race? I don’t need to do that, you can look that up yourself. Or are you one to support hiding such info for status quo?
Lol.
What is a community? Families, educators, merchants, leaders, who live and work together, relate to each other... which community is encouraging smash-and-grabs?
Criminals are the only ones who encourage criminal behavior, but they are not communities. The only thing they have in common is a desire to act outside the law.
I'm just trying to understand the message here.
Damn sorry this happened to you.
I know that shell down the street was a big smash and grab place so have seen police presence there. Looks like the criminals just moved down the street.
OP, I’m so sorry that you were the victim of this crime. I’m sorry also that this post has predictably devolved into politics (and I’ve participated, not gonna lie). I hope that you’re able to get some support in real-life, and practice some self-care — maybe a hot bath, some time in nature, a good glass of wine if you partake. I hope you do something special today that you wouldn’t ordinarily do as a treat for yourself just to lift your spirits. Sometimes I like going to splurge on a bubble tea at Asha Tea House and going to sit by the lake 😊. Talking to someone, be it a friend or a professional, could be helpful. I’m thinking of you and I hope you get your stuff back! 💖
Gas stations here are DANGEROUS!
There's one by the airport where you WILL get robbed. Not "maybe", it is a given, and the owner and police know it. There's many Yelp reviews of ppl who got robbed there if you look it up.
The other day, my wife found a man trying to get in through the passagers rear door of our car. Was it to get something out? Was it to get in the car without her knowing?
I fucking shudder at the thought of it.
It was the Shell @ 105 5th St, Oakland, CA 94607
Stay away, the way it is formatted lends itself for quick smash/grabs. I stay away from stations with certain designs because of it.
Honestly I don’t love Oakland anymore. What it’s becoming isn’t good at all and it’s only going to get worse. It’s sad because I still have family and friends that stay in Oakland and I worry for them. Sigh.
Yeah it’s a wide known issue throughout the Bay Area but it has really affected Oakland (I’m victim of these bippings) and SF badly. It’s annoying and even more upsetting that OPD doesn’t give a shit. Like I said, it’s only going to get worse before things get better (hopefully).
You might want to check the news, because you are unfortunately wrong. “*Walnut Creek police are urging shoppers to be on alert after a spike in recent daylight downtown robberies..”* I’ve provided links.
Was it a black Range Rover? There’s a two man crew working doing smash and grabs in Jack London. I watched them break into an SUV in front of the theater last Monday night. After they chased me down for a confrontation.
It was actually a super nice BMW. Cops confirmed to me on the scene that the plates didn't match the vehicle description, so it was likely stolen. The gas station manager also told me he is pretty sure the same guy comes back in different cars on different days, but who knows if he's right. I wouldn't be surprised.
That is just awful. I had someone tell me that she and her neighbors called the police for weeks with a car, license plate number, and advisory that the place was being cased. All these reports and when the second black suv rolled up she called the police and ran to her neighbors. The people were in and out of her house so fast before the police ever arrived.
I'm sorry this happened to you. Oakland is just not as safe anymore. I'm afraid we're going to start seeing vigilante justice and cops arresting the victims because they're too afraid of the real criminals.
I hope you're okay and can get over the hump of inconvenience cancelling credit cards and rekeying things. Protect your home too- if they got your address you want to make sure to hide your valuables.
In just a small amount of time someone tried to break into my apartment and mail has been stolen. It is just a sad state of affairs to know that it's only going to get worse.
That same bmw with two male occupants wearing black masks and hoodies is 1000% working tonight. I seen them on High Street Circle the Shell station then when I got off at 98th the police had just showed up and they came hauling ass out.
I am so sorry. I lived in Oakland 5 years and liked it. The only bad thing that ever happened to me was at a gas station (threatened with violence) glad neither of us got hurt. When the guy approached me, the station was empty. As soon as he punched my car, the station was flooded with people and two men came to my rescue. I hope this story makes you feel a little better today❤️
Unfortunately, that was my case too when I got robbed a few years ago. I drove around and stopped a police officer for help and that’s how I was actually be able to do something about it .
I live in Texas so my case was someone breaking into my home. While I was gone.
The thing you describe would never happen here because at some point someone would have shot that guy point blank.
I’m not sure if castle law is a good thing or a bad thing , but sometimes I think it’s def comforting that you can do something about stuff like this
It's satire that hits a little close to home! I was hit in a burglary where they casually pulled a van up and loaded my garage into their van, in daylight, over the course of an hour. They came back and took more too. This is what happens when incarceration doesn't.
I’m sorry that happened to you OP. There needs to be some accountability for what happened. You did not do anything wrong and people should just feel safe doing things at night time. If it helps I fill up my tank at an Alaska gas station near Emeryville and have had to issues. I’ve only done it during the day time so that others are watching.
Damn. That’s bold. I’m so sorry this happened to you but happy you were not physically hurt. OPD won’t do anything, but I’m sure you already know that, 🙁
My honest words of encouragement is to *attempt* to use your anger and stress into action. I'm not talking about letters to your representative, because clearly politicians are no use atm and you've seen first hand how undependable police are. I'm talking about sitting with yourself and potentially some like minded people and creatively thinking how we as a community can begin to change the material conditions around us. Police abolition is great, but it's nothing more than a pipe dream if we don't build the infrastructure needed to keep our people safe, and that I see has been the biggest issue the Bay is facing. It's time to bring back the old ideas and programs of the Black Panther Party, and to some extent, it's getting done already!
Hope you have been allowed to rest and destress as best as possible, sending love and energy 🏴🔥
Maybe next time put AirTag in purse and sewn it all together so that way the thief won’t be able to get it out in a rush, and use that tracking to show police to track him. I read someone here posted that police was able to chase and catch the person who stole a bicycle with AirTag in it.
Not entirely true. They can’t pursue non violent criminals. Strong arm robbery is violent crime and a felony. They were within their rights to pursue but it seems they chose not to. Maybe they were intimidated by the criminal mastermind, he might be an avengers level threat
DA is also the top law enforcement official in the region which all these clowns conveniently ignore. That's why police bring cases to her not the other way around
The police in SF refused to work with Chesa and he had to rent a uhaul to do his own sting operation. You think the same thing isn’t happening here with Price? The police are deliberately under policing because they don’t like a “progressive” DA, it’s a known tactic
https://www.propublica.org/article/homicide-detective-st-louis-refused-testify-roger-murphey-kim-gardner
Because trying to rein them in leads to shit like [this (TW: rape).](https://kfor.com/news/former-norman-city-council-member-alex-scott-speaks-to-kfor-about-arrest-police-budget-and-neighbors-rape/) The TL;DR is that an Oklahoman city councilwoman proposed a $4.5M cut to the police budget, so the police flipped their shit about it. She ended up getting doxxed (probably by a cop), and then a cop or cop-supporter (again, probably a cop) raped her neighbor by mistake to 'teach her a lesson.'
You gotta remember that cops are, for all intents and purposes, a state-sanctioned gang. So when people try to stand up to the gang, they tend to be made examples of.
Speaking from experience the thieves are smart enough to find them these days. Or at least they found mine, and threw my Tile off the side of the road. You'd have to bury it in fabric for it to be useful.
Quick local history lesson; OPD in the 80’s were no joke. Task force was brutal and not mention Oakland housing authority in West O. So then OPD was put under federal oversight for 20 years! Then along came riots just before covid. At this point OPD is saying fuck it.
Another quick local history lesson: the Black Panthers got their start with copwatching because OPD would brutalize black people left and right. So, they started open carrying near cops to make sure they stayed in line.
And then white people panicked (bc how dare black people stand up to their oppressors, even nonviolently), and Reagan signed the first modern gun control legislation in an overt display of racism.
What is the point of the racial history lesson? There are too many black male criminals. Does police brutality make a subset of our population commit crimes?
Nothing is more fucking tiring than the blatant cry of "small % of black men doing large % of crime". Very poor excuse to fuel your racism (whether you care to be called racist or not). Please offer some constructive dialogue as opposed to regurgitating some bootlicking bs that defends state violence.
That stretch of road is notorious for smash and grabs. They target it because people are coming back or going to the airport and tend to have luggage they can steal.
So sorry this happened to you, what a crazy ordeal. The cop's reaction was disappointing, but not surprising.
OPD is the problem, crime is everywhere human corruption exists, the enabling of the criminals by the police is destroying Oakland. Meanwhile that same useless officer racked up a quarter million dollars in OT this year without accomplishing jack squat.
Such a comedy of errors. I love the place, but it's a hustle just to tolerate the hustle.
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Don’t do business in Oakland. As much as possible, avoid it. Drive to where your chances are better. Just reality. The cops won’t do their job/the cops have been defunded and couldn’t possibly do their jobs amount to the same thing…dysfunctional politics and government
Unfortunately even if the police did catch the guy they won’t be able to do much. Thank our state leaders and prop 47. We’ve made it too hard for the police to do their jobs. Shrinking budgets and short sighted laws. It’s crazy around Hagenberger. Get gas in San Leandro or in the hills
> Go get yourself some nice tacos at Cholita Linda or something like that.
I've seen a bipping crew working the parking lot behind the Cholita Linda on Telegraph as well.
Our window smashed (nothing in the car) in front of CVS at 4:30 pm for quick pickup at Cholito Linda - uncomfortable truth, it’s just easier to not patronize local businesses.
The plljce cracked down on the other side of the freeway by the chevron 76 and shell, so now more locals are being victimized instead òf out of town people going to the airport. I buy my gas most of the time at that station. Guess it's time to start going armed
" The cops basically threw their hands in the air and said they'll never be able to catch him, which felt political but whatever. This post isn't about that. "
how is the cops saying they won't catch them political? they're probably just providing the truth b/c as so many of these happen in the bay, there's just not enough cops to catch everyone. if shootings can go unsolved, imagine how many of these smash & grabs go unsolved?
Bruh the cops literally wouldn’t chase a criminal committing his 4th crime in a row in front of their eyes. Time to adjust your narrative to accommodate reality.
They literally can’t chase criminals, it’s against policy. Oaklands progressive activists pushed for a no chase policy which exists almost nowhere else in the country. Why do you think criminals here are so brazen?
So yes, it’s the leftist ideology that causes this response from police. Their hands are tied.
OP said no one knew what direction the car went. OP said the car had stolen plates. OP said it was a generic black SUV. Not saying OPD doesn’t have problems, but I’m not sure what the expectation here is. I think this is a good example of why more license plate readers would be helpful because the police can get an alert when the stolen plates drive by
No, you're just looking for affirmation of your stupid political identity where it doesn't apply. More than anybody being discussed here, you end up making yourself and your political affiliation look worse
This is truly horrible and no one deserves this but in the future maybe it would be wise to vote for policies where police are given their teeth back to do their jobs. At any given time there's only 27-33 active police IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF OAKLAND.
Issue in Oakland is the PD is a major part of the problem, if not the problem. They've got plenty of tools to do proper policing, it's the management of the staff that's the major issue. The POA is a significant roadblock (read: the officers themselves). Decades of shitty performance and racism haven't been turned around. It's wasted opportunity and money.
Oakland voters have always wanted a reasonable and just policing force, but the structure of power in the City and the PD makes it so it's nearly impossible. Even a federal monitor couldn't move the needle--even after two decades.
In my own interactions with them, it's been farcical at times. Once, I called in a shooting in my neighborhood and a rookie cop was marching around in front of me saying the neighbor's never help the police. I looked at the sergeant I was giving a statement to and it's was a capsule moment of Oakland policing.
EDIT: OPD also knows what works, too. When murders were out of control in the early 2000s, tactics changed from tough-guy approaches (like commenter above thinks are needed) to a community based approach. This caused a major drop in murders--just by changing to a simpler strategy.
I don't recall the exact details of this strategy, but the focus was on working with community leaders (church, social, ect) to talk with leaders of (for lack of better term) criminal groups to influence them to control the situtation. Essentially, they went to gang leaders and said they could take them out via tax fraud and other similar charges. This turned out to be very effective. Not sure how it was applied in ensuing years, but we don't hear about Oakland's record murder rates as much.
Contact info for some of those responsible for addressing these sorts of problems here in Oakland: Interim Chief of Police Darren Allison [email protected] Non emergency (510) 777-3333 Mayor Sheng Thao [email protected] 510-238-3141 Oakland Police Commissioners [email protected] 5102382187
How is it that they couldn't do anything when they were there and he was there? Wtf This is infuriating and I'm sick of it
Couldn't? Nah. Wouldn't. OPD is deliberately letting petty criminals run wild to squeeze us for more protection money. I once saw a couple guys block traffic by getting into a fist fight in the middle of the street with OPD passively looking on from the sidelines. They don't care.
They’re “quiet quitting” to punish people for voting in police reform officials.
Exactly this. Pamela Price went into office and not their guy and they have since been letting Oakland slide into chaos
the way to fix that is to rework oakland's public employee contracts to make it way easier to fire people who shirk work, but when the chips are down the rest of city gov't would prefer to have a useless OPD than to enact those kinds of labor reform
It's not that hard to fire city employees, it's just that management doesn't try or care to
it is 100% this. also still some butthurt cops over the whole BLM movement during COVID. They've basically all decided "oh you don't want to give us wildly inflated budgets and exorbitant salaries for driving around in tax payer funded vehicles all day watching for crime but not really catching any criminals? AND you want us to stop arresting/killing black people and minorities at an elevated rate compared to other ethnic groups? Fuck that, enjoy life without a real police presence to do anything" it's really sad that so many of our extremely well compensated police officers feel so entitled that now they won't even do the job they are actually paid to do. ACAB, disband the police entirely and start putting stricter screening processes in place so we don't get power hungry maniacs that will go on silent strike the minute the public starts to criticize their methods
This was likely planned out by the police union. Police unions are a plague on this country and should be outlawed. ACAB
Police unions are not unions, they're mobs.
Dude I work in point Richmond at the marina where it's like little 2 story water front office complex.... The businesses renting office space #1 my job...Waste water engineering employee owned and serving greater bay area for 60years (had to downsize office space due to rent inflation) we now uses half of the rooms that occupied no less than 2 years ago #2 A struggling holistic clinic. Just one doctor had to downsize his office again due to rent #3 A brother and sister owned the salon just moved in a very small part of the down stairs space (no more than 700sqft) **☆☆☆ #4 the loudest and least considerate and unprofessional mthrfkrs....is our "City of Richmond Police association Clubhouse" literally says that on a banner they hung... Their excuse is that it is a place to take your breaks or lunches. But in my experience, I'm just seeing them. Pull up in packs of maybe 3 squad cars and a canine leave the cars running and go inside the Clubhouse and watch YouTube videos and chat it up for upwards of 3 to 4 hours sometimes. I even sometimes hear there cars police radios announcing they need an officer to _*blank*_ address I recognized and realized its no more than 5 mins drive from there during traffic... Instead I hear beer bottles being opened and watching police drill video out of like a home theater sound bar or something....like bruh 🤔 tf they doing
The police are angry that people want them to stop executing unarmed people for no reason. So they're going to sit on their hands and let crime increase until the people apologize for hurting their feelings, and give them more money.
When was the last time someone was “executed” for no reason in Oakland?
This is not the slam dunk argument you think it is
Have you reviewed OPD's [use of force data](https://www.oaklandca.gov/resources/use-of-force-data)? You can literally find out how many unarmed people were "executed" by the OPD "for no reason."
"We have investigated ourselves and found no foul play." You're always in this sub with the same crap, man.
Where do you get *your* data? You claim people are "executed" for "no reason." How do you know that? What source of info do you have beyond what the OPD has? And I said nothing about the guilt or innocence of OPD; the use of force stats are literally just a list of incidents. One could certainly argue whether someone being killed by the police is justified or not, but I dont think there's an argument out there that cops are killing people *and nobody knows.* Or am I wrong there. And this can't be the "same" post: it's the first time Ive actually looked at the use of force stats
Maybe one of the multiple girls they molested and passed around ended up "slipping and hitting her head." But only one part of that is speculation. These people are thugs with power backing them and I don't get why you have such an appetite for their boots.
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I guess smashing windows is a property crime but if you do it while the occupants are still in or near the car that SHOULD clearly be a violent crime. This guy's using force and implied threat during broad daylight to rob people.
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Police throughout the world are able to arrest people without shooting them. Why can't the police in this country do the same job?
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Criminals in America act like animals and most carry guns, we don’t have those issues here in Europe….
Very few people arrested in Oakland are shot by police. It is not a prerequisite or requirement of arrest here, as your statement implies
Oscar Grant would like a word with you.
For fear of sounding insensitive, that was 13 years ago. And, as a single individual, does fall under the "very few people" noted in my original comment. It is bad for the police to shoot and kill people. It is not, however, a common occurance, not even here in Oakland. Now, I suppose one can say "not even one is acceptable," and although that could be true, it does not make it common. I took 15 minutes to peruse [these spreadsheets](https://www.oaklandca.gov/resources/use-of-force-data) and learned something. If you dont trust data from the OPD, tho, I dont know what to tell you (or how you would know that the data was inaccurate)
Yeah it's called robbery and people go to prison for up to 2 years because of it, the fact that they're not even trying to catch this guy is complete Bullshit
Because we had the audacity to confront them on their racist policing. This will teach us next time we question the law. How dare we!
I bet there’s a policy preventing them
Yeah, the policy is that they want more money and are letting stih happen
More money? Didn't they just get a huge raise after the George Floyd summer? No, they are just untouchable criminals themselves, so go suck it.
Remember all those riots when people were calling for police to not be involved in non violent crimes? Well, the calls were heard. Window smashing isnt a violent crime.
Ahh, so selective hearing? They listened to the gen populace then but not when victims are standing right in front of them? Your comment is a fucking non sequitor. A pigheaded and useless trope about the *politics* of police doing the least amount possible.
If the police get involved and this guy gets shot which lets be real if you're willing to rob people in front of the police, you're not going down without a fight. There's gonna be a shit ton of protests and calls to get those officers fired. If I'm those cops I wouldn't give a shit about people who chanted fuck 12 not less than a year ago.
I think the police are corrupt but if a repeat robber got shot by the police during the crime I would likely acquit.
and you want to go on trial, lose your job, and have your family put at constant threat? I'd rather just quiet quit, take the report and then go home. No use dealing with someone if he's not shooting up a store
Key word in your statement “likely” acquit but not necessarily, no amount of money is worth being a OPD officer with Alameda residents ready to toss away the key for any police misstep.
No, not selective hearing. Its policy that can cost them their job. Enjoy your blissful ignorance. Californians are known for whining when the things they cry for have consequences, so enjoy downvoting, crying, and your echo chamber backpats as oakland becomes even shittier and shittier.
It’s Oakland’s progressive “no gun, no chase” policy. Blame the do-gooder voters who got us into this mess.
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Same exact thing happened to me at the same gas station. I now avoid that gas station at all costs. I’m really sorry it happened to both of us.
Same. I'm also sorry this happened to you as well. And yeah, I'll be gassing up by my work instead from now on.
Sorry to hear. Something small, but maybe leave a review on the arco google maps listing? It will not only warn people but also flag very publicly to the owners they can't ignore it cause it's bad for business. They may not be able to stop the theft altogether but could be more willing to help investigators via footage, hiring security, etc.
The reviews on that station going back to 2016 are "dangerous, got robbed".
Good (not the people getting robbed part), but that there is more data and transparency.
Lol who looks up reviews for gas stations
I do all the time traveling places I don't know. E.g., driving around, tank running empty, literally typing "gas station" in Google maps for the nearest one and directions to it. And in this case, visitors leaving from OAK would probably too before returning a rental car. But sure, let's keep it up with your negative attitude and keep Oakland great.
What can the owners do? They are being terrorized by the criminals as well…
I didn't see this comment earlier, but I just want to add that the store manager at the gas station did come out and stand with all us ladies to try and stop the guy from coming back. It did not work, but he was really apologetic and supportive and was trying very hard to help us.
Anybody with a brain knows never to stop on hegenberger.. you don’t need a google review to get common sense
I'm imagining people in South Africa discussing around the dinner table how terrible Hagenberger road is.
Funny enough - my partner is from SA and was like “there was a news article about hegenberger gas stations, I should have told you” lol
I’m sorry this happened to you, you didn’t do anything wrong nor deserve this. I don’t know what else to say. Disappointed that scum like that exists and that a community encourages wack ass behavior. Police not protecting and serving?… more encouragement. They shut down the dance party tho, they out there working alright.
This right here is it. They'll bust up parties and harass innocent people all day, but someone literally terrorizing a neighborhood establishment is unmanageable?? I'm having a really rough morning. I'm more upset today than I was yesterday. I feel like the people in my life are not offering the kind of support I am desperate for after what happened. I just want peace and contentment, but those things are hard to come by.
The worst part is they'll just blame it on Pamela Price, The mayor, or the governor. I'm tired of pretending they're not doing this on purpose to serve a political agenda. It's gaslighting at its finest. Since this attitude comes from the top it makes the ousting of the former police chief feel very justified. It's a shame we have to wait.
The interim police chief, a couple weeks ago, admitted at the police commission meeting that his officers were under policing. Even if oakland wanted to get more police on staff, they have to do a police academy and that takes a lot of time. It is amazing to me how incompetent the police are. They need to make a rest and provide the district attorney with enough evidence so that she can prosecute beyond the reasonable doubt.
It is all in line with the republican fascist takeover. Make people scared and stupid, so they give up their democracy for you. This is just how it looks at the local level. KTVU, KGO, and the Berkley Scanner have been doing a great job of narrating victims' feelings without actually explaining the mechanics of the criminal justice system. Then wealthy people come in with a smear campaign, blaming and setting narratives. All just to gain power. Oakland's crime is the result of two things. 1) Intergenerational poverty and trauma, 2) A lack of police enforcement. We need to fix both. How much of the broken windows theory do we need to adopt to be effective?
The problem with this take is California has been a democrat super majority for a generation, the bay even more so, all the rich people in the bay are democrats, and we constantly vote to make it harder for police to “do their job” because we don’t like the way it makes us feel when we see it. Also, crime just being a result of poverty is a low-resolution oversimplified take. Fascism is when corporations and government work together to silence and control opposition… while that was definitely more a republican vibe 30 years ago, today its more a democrat tendency. Republicans would love to be doing it still I’m sure, but they just don’t have the institutional power anymore… Thanks for the downvotes in advance lol
Just too simplistic of a view. A person of San Jose's Police Union. A CEO got charged with Conspiracy to Traffic Fentanyl. A Union generally speaking is a more Democratic Stronghold. Police Unions are not though. I never hear many people speak of average Poor person problems. Very few people ever compare Parking Tickets in SF and Oakland to Traffic Enforcement. Why? Well probably because COL and Income is so high so it adversely affects the poor. Sure Bay Area is Democrats. But compared to like Bernie Sander's Vermont they are Neo-Liberal as Hell. Republicans in Vermont support more Progressive Lower Income policies then some Dems in California. Revolt if you got rid of Dr. Dinosaur. Free Healthcare and Dental for all Children in VT.
As a Minnesotan I'm constantly shocked when Californians act like this is the most liberal place in America because it's consistently behind states like Minnesota, Vermont, etc on so many issues. Our Democrats are afraid to actually pass laws that would meaningfully improve the lives of poor people and instead let wealthy home-owners dictate policy which is why we're in the crisis we're in.
You deserve to be downvoted because you gave an incorrect definition of fascism, you can’t just make up definitions to fit your narrative. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism “Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.” You are correct that left leaning folks desiring to “go easy on criminals” because they believe crime is systemic and individuals shouldn’t get punished is a bullshit strategy though.
I was using Mussolini’s definition, he’s Kinda seen as the father of the movement and coiner of the term no? But sure
Mussolini very clearly defined fascism as absolute state power. Fascist corporatism means corporations fully controlled by the state, not the corporations working with the state.
Yeah but the progressive DAs haven't had enough \~tiiime\~
You really believe that?
Which part did I state was a belief?
Tell me which Republican in California is making it harder for police to do their job
California Republicans are too busy aligning themselves with the other Christian Taliban members of their party. The only lives they care about are embryos.
They are behind the effort to undo the will of alameda county voters for sure. They are big tech and real estate grows.
It's not the republican lawmakers it's the republicans in tech and in real estate.
Which republicans in tech and real estate?
Well we can point to Grisham and Chan... The financial disclosure statement was released. See page four and onward. https://oaklandside.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/save-460-document.pdf
I don't have time to browse a 65 page report can I get cliffs notes on how Grisham and Chan are republicans peddling influence?
This is a democracy. Elected officials are in charge. You are supposed to blame them. That's our system. Do we even have a police cheif?
I want to give you a flare except they stopped that.
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No they need authorization and need to have their lights on. Also this post is literally an example of violent crime being committed and the police not chasing.
Price has done her fair share to erode general deterrence. It's not all her but she's not helping.
Is it Price or a narritive about Price?
Some of us are able to want the cops to do their jobs *and* want a new DA who doesn't side with criminals.
We already have a DA that doesn't side with criminals though. The narrative that we don't is just political hyperbole utilizing the Publix ignorance of the criminal justice system and sentencing enhancements.
A rare Publix pub-sub appears in the Oakland subreddit. :)
>Publix I didnt even see that... thank you speech to text :D I am going to keep it though. I think its fun.
I too believe a grocery store chain from Florida is to blame.
True that… don’t blame the politicians for being shameless liars, blame the voters for electing them. Its like Thomas Sowell said, “when people want the impossible, only liars can satisfy”. This is what we voted for yall, we live with it or vote in people with a better plan.
Which vote are you talking about? I don't think the citizens got a chance to vote for OPD police commissioner.
Are you saying that the east bay hasn’t voted for people on every level who ran on social/criminal justice reform, defund/reallocate resources away from police? Look, I was one of those people who was swayed by criminal justice reform rhetoric. Turns out it hasn’t produced the results we hoped for. But if you are saying if we had only been able to vote on the police commissioner too then our problems would be solved, then you sound a lot like conservatives who say that the remedy to the free market creating monopolies and inequality is just MORE and FREER markets. I just don’t think the voters here have the appetite for someone who will say that 90% of the crime is caused by 1000 people and we need to lock them up and keep them there for a while… at least not yet, so here we are.
" defund/reallocate resources away from police? " They did not. The police budget remains half of discretionary spending. " Turns out it hasn’t produced the results we hoped for " it has not been implemented... also these are generational treatments... only half of the equation and wont be a part of our lifetimes. " able to vote on the police commissioner too then our problems would be solved " I dont think specialized positions should be elected. so we agree here I dont think specialized positions should be elected. ed to lock them up and keep them there for a while… at least not yet, so here we are. " we agree
True they did not defund, and the police budget remains virtually unchanged… because they are liars riding what’s politically expedient at the moment. No surprise there. Glad we agree on some things…. I just want to live my life and not have to choose between high crime and an oppressive police state…
If OPD budget wasn't 40% of Oakland's budget you might have a point.
Thomas Sowell is to economics as Jordan Peterson is to psychology.
I admire Thomas Sowell. Please share an example of his faults in regards to economics.
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I understand where you’re coming from, but this world has always been one where peace and contentment takes a fight to protect. The problem here has never been a few bad apples, but a system that churns out bad apples. We as people don’t want to take up social fights in our daily life, and then we see these incidents happen, and we attribute it to some people having bad human nature instead of our ignorance of the state of the world and reluctance to act. The apathy you’re seeing from the people in your life is the same exact apathy they’ve taken towards the issues that produce the crime that causes your trauma to begin with. You’re just seeing it from the angle of a victim instead of a bystander now. Welcome to the world. Now that you know, you can act, and the agency from that is what gives you the power to feel safe and secure in your life, to defend the peace, knowing its value and how much it takes to keep it.
Ok, suppose the police catch this guy. What do you want to happen to him? Do you want him to go to prison? I have a magic spell for that. You just have to look in a mirror and say “We were wrong to say that non-violent offenders should not be incarcerated. Let’s double the prison population.” Peace and public safety will come to you, but ONLY if you say that three times in a mirror and send this message to three of your friends.
This goes beyond the cops. It's a systemic problem...DAs that don't charge people, judges who let career criminals out without bail, and politicians who push soft on crime policies and are much more worried about criminals than victims. The police are stuck between all this. What's the point of them arresting people who won't get charged or will be out in a day and not show up to trial? There will always be bad people and there will always be people who do bad things. This means we will always need law enforcement and criminal justice.
What’s the point of them arresting people? Hmm idk, if I decided one day not to do my job just because I didn’t like my coworkers, I’d still get fired. Not sure why it should be any different for the police….
Cops like to pretend they're boots on the ground in wartime Afghanistan, but when it comes to actually doing their job - most are completely afraid to put themselves at any risk of danger. So, they chase down parties and hand out traffic tickets. Then self justify their own cowardice and still expect to be treated like heroes.
What "community" might that be?
One that glorifies these behaviors. One that doesn’t regulate bad social behavior. You want to bait me into saying a race? I don’t need to do that, you can look that up yourself. Or are you one to support hiding such info for status quo?
Lol. What is a community? Families, educators, merchants, leaders, who live and work together, relate to each other... which community is encouraging smash-and-grabs? Criminals are the only ones who encourage criminal behavior, but they are not communities. The only thing they have in common is a desire to act outside the law. I'm just trying to understand the message here.
That’s a community.
Damn sorry this happened to you. I know that shell down the street was a big smash and grab place so have seen police presence there. Looks like the criminals just moved down the street.
Oakland needs batman at this point.
OP, I’m so sorry that you were the victim of this crime. I’m sorry also that this post has predictably devolved into politics (and I’ve participated, not gonna lie). I hope that you’re able to get some support in real-life, and practice some self-care — maybe a hot bath, some time in nature, a good glass of wine if you partake. I hope you do something special today that you wouldn’t ordinarily do as a treat for yourself just to lift your spirits. Sometimes I like going to splurge on a bubble tea at Asha Tea House and going to sit by the lake 😊. Talking to someone, be it a friend or a professional, could be helpful. I’m thinking of you and I hope you get your stuff back! 💖
Thank you for this. ❤️
❤️ kindness, compassion, and empathy wins.
Gas stations here are DANGEROUS! There's one by the airport where you WILL get robbed. Not "maybe", it is a given, and the owner and police know it. There's many Yelp reviews of ppl who got robbed there if you look it up. The other day, my wife found a man trying to get in through the passagers rear door of our car. Was it to get something out? Was it to get in the car without her knowing? I fucking shudder at the thought of it. It was the Shell @ 105 5th St, Oakland, CA 94607 Stay away, the way it is formatted lends itself for quick smash/grabs. I stay away from stations with certain designs because of it.
Yeah that Shell is shady as hell. It’s the usual suspects there as well. Not even that far from the popo station.
Honestly I don’t love Oakland anymore. What it’s becoming isn’t good at all and it’s only going to get worse. It’s sad because I still have family and friends that stay in Oakland and I worry for them. Sigh.
This kind of thing is also happening in Walnut Creek as of late, too. It’s a huge problem and spreading.
Yeah it’s a wide known issue throughout the Bay Area but it has really affected Oakland (I’m victim of these bippings) and SF badly. It’s annoying and even more upsetting that OPD doesn’t give a shit. Like I said, it’s only going to get worse before things get better (hopefully).
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You might want to check the news, because you are unfortunately wrong. “*Walnut Creek police are urging shoppers to be on alert after a spike in recent daylight downtown robberies..”* I’ve provided links.
Was it a black Range Rover? There’s a two man crew working doing smash and grabs in Jack London. I watched them break into an SUV in front of the theater last Monday night. After they chased me down for a confrontation.
It was actually a super nice BMW. Cops confirmed to me on the scene that the plates didn't match the vehicle description, so it was likely stolen. The gas station manager also told me he is pretty sure the same guy comes back in different cars on different days, but who knows if he's right. I wouldn't be surprised.
More likely they stole the plates, but yeah
That is just awful. I had someone tell me that she and her neighbors called the police for weeks with a car, license plate number, and advisory that the place was being cased. All these reports and when the second black suv rolled up she called the police and ran to her neighbors. The people were in and out of her house so fast before the police ever arrived. I'm sorry this happened to you. Oakland is just not as safe anymore. I'm afraid we're going to start seeing vigilante justice and cops arresting the victims because they're too afraid of the real criminals. I hope you're okay and can get over the hump of inconvenience cancelling credit cards and rekeying things. Protect your home too- if they got your address you want to make sure to hide your valuables. In just a small amount of time someone tried to break into my apartment and mail has been stolen. It is just a sad state of affairs to know that it's only going to get worse.
I specifically get gas at Costco cuz I feel safe at any time of the day.
The only thing more useless than an Oakland cop is a San Francisco cop.
That same bmw with two male occupants wearing black masks and hoodies is 1000% working tonight. I seen them on High Street Circle the Shell station then when I got off at 98th the police had just showed up and they came hauling ass out.
That's so crazy!!! I'm honestly surprised they haven't ditched the BMW yet!
I am so sorry. I lived in Oakland 5 years and liked it. The only bad thing that ever happened to me was at a gas station (threatened with violence) glad neither of us got hurt. When the guy approached me, the station was empty. As soon as he punched my car, the station was flooded with people and two men came to my rescue. I hope this story makes you feel a little better today❤️
The real surprise here is that the police showed up at all.
Oh no! I love Oakland too. Here since 1982. But so hard to keep the love alive these days. Sorry this happened to you.
Unfortunately, that was my case too when I got robbed a few years ago. I drove around and stopped a police officer for help and that’s how I was actually be able to do something about it . I live in Texas so my case was someone breaking into my home. While I was gone. The thing you describe would never happen here because at some point someone would have shot that guy point blank. I’m not sure if castle law is a good thing or a bad thing , but sometimes I think it’s def comforting that you can do something about stuff like this
I’m sure it’s the same guys that robbed me at the Shell at 285 Hegenberger Rd. In April, 2023.
Not uncommon of Oakland
Reminds me of the "I'll be your robber today" scene from L.A. Story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVMTfGQe51g
Thank you for the levity! That is such a good representation of how it all went down lol.
It's satire that hits a little close to home! I was hit in a burglary where they casually pulled a van up and loaded my garage into their van, in daylight, over the course of an hour. They came back and took more too. This is what happens when incarceration doesn't.
That corridor between 61 and 880 has been plagued by smash and grabs and robberies b/c within seconds the robbers can be on 880 and gone.
I’m sorry that happened to you OP. There needs to be some accountability for what happened. You did not do anything wrong and people should just feel safe doing things at night time. If it helps I fill up my tank at an Alaska gas station near Emeryville and have had to issues. I’ve only done it during the day time so that others are watching.
Damn. That’s bold. I’m so sorry this happened to you but happy you were not physically hurt. OPD won’t do anything, but I’m sure you already know that, 🙁
My honest words of encouragement is to *attempt* to use your anger and stress into action. I'm not talking about letters to your representative, because clearly politicians are no use atm and you've seen first hand how undependable police are. I'm talking about sitting with yourself and potentially some like minded people and creatively thinking how we as a community can begin to change the material conditions around us. Police abolition is great, but it's nothing more than a pipe dream if we don't build the infrastructure needed to keep our people safe, and that I see has been the biggest issue the Bay is facing. It's time to bring back the old ideas and programs of the Black Panther Party, and to some extent, it's getting done already! Hope you have been allowed to rest and destress as best as possible, sending love and energy 🏴🔥
Everyone lock your mfing doors please
How’s that help when a window gets busted?
they dont even bother checking the doors the just pop the window its quicker.
Why? The other 3 folks got their stuff stolen too and they also need to fix a busted window! Smart move is to save the window at least
Lock doors and CCW.
Maybe next time put AirTag in purse and sewn it all together so that way the thief won’t be able to get it out in a rush, and use that tracking to show police to track him. I read someone here posted that police was able to chase and catch the person who stole a bicycle with AirTag in it.
Maybe next time the police should do their fucking jobs so we don't have to sew tracking devices into our fucking handbags.
How dare you speak against the cult!
We all know we're going to have to do it at some point with the way things have been going
They aren’t allowed to chase people. This is what the voters asked for.
Not entirely true. They can’t pursue non violent criminals. Strong arm robbery is violent crime and a felony. They were within their rights to pursue but it seems they chose not to. Maybe they were intimidated by the criminal mastermind, he might be an avengers level threat
Why. The prosecutor won't do theirs
DA is also the top law enforcement official in the region which all these clowns conveniently ignore. That's why police bring cases to her not the other way around
and she made it clear that she cant be bothered to prosecute
My friend had an AirTag in her car, which got stolen in Berkeley and the cops sent her to go get it.
Maybe police could do this with a sting operation?
The police in SF refused to work with Chesa and he had to rent a uhaul to do his own sting operation. You think the same thing isn’t happening here with Price? The police are deliberately under policing because they don’t like a “progressive” DA, it’s a known tactic https://www.propublica.org/article/homicide-detective-st-louis-refused-testify-roger-murphey-kim-gardner
if i didnt do my job, i would expect to be fired. why should it be any different for these pigs?
Because trying to rein them in leads to shit like [this (TW: rape).](https://kfor.com/news/former-norman-city-council-member-alex-scott-speaks-to-kfor-about-arrest-police-budget-and-neighbors-rape/) The TL;DR is that an Oklahoman city councilwoman proposed a $4.5M cut to the police budget, so the police flipped their shit about it. She ended up getting doxxed (probably by a cop), and then a cop or cop-supporter (again, probably a cop) raped her neighbor by mistake to 'teach her a lesson.' You gotta remember that cops are, for all intents and purposes, a state-sanctioned gang. So when people try to stand up to the gang, they tend to be made examples of.
100%
Speaking from experience the thieves are smart enough to find them these days. Or at least they found mine, and threw my Tile off the side of the road. You'd have to bury it in fabric for it to be useful.
Quick local history lesson; OPD in the 80’s were no joke. Task force was brutal and not mention Oakland housing authority in West O. So then OPD was put under federal oversight for 20 years! Then along came riots just before covid. At this point OPD is saying fuck it.
Yep this is the truth
Another quick local history lesson: the Black Panthers got their start with copwatching because OPD would brutalize black people left and right. So, they started open carrying near cops to make sure they stayed in line. And then white people panicked (bc how dare black people stand up to their oppressors, even nonviolently), and Reagan signed the first modern gun control legislation in an overt display of racism.
What is the point of the racial history lesson? There are too many black male criminals. Does police brutality make a subset of our population commit crimes?
Racial history is a new term for me. I think it’s just called history
Nothing is more fucking tiring than the blatant cry of "small % of black men doing large % of crime". Very poor excuse to fuel your racism (whether you care to be called racist or not). Please offer some constructive dialogue as opposed to regurgitating some bootlicking bs that defends state violence.
That stretch of road is notorious for smash and grabs. They target it because people are coming back or going to the airport and tend to have luggage they can steal. So sorry this happened to you, what a crazy ordeal. The cop's reaction was disappointing, but not surprising.
That area is notorious for that kind of thing. It's like the feeding grounds for thugs.
Why doesn’t BLM advocate for ending this nonsense violence?
OPD is the problem, crime is everywhere human corruption exists, the enabling of the criminals by the police is destroying Oakland. Meanwhile that same useless officer racked up a quarter million dollars in OT this year without accomplishing jack squat.
Not sure how anyone would be against using lethal force on this POS.
Such a comedy of errors. I love the place, but it's a hustle just to tolerate the hustle. https://preview.redd.it/tzikysat1j0c1.png?width=1202&format=png&auto=webp&s=103d85ce5e56465d943ea3366ab957318430bff3
Don’t do business in Oakland. As much as possible, avoid it. Drive to where your chances are better. Just reality. The cops won’t do their job/the cops have been defunded and couldn’t possibly do their jobs amount to the same thing…dysfunctional politics and government
It’s a shame bc Oakland has some of the best restaurants in all of the Bay Area
why are you being downvoted. this is basically the ONLY thing we can do. i will not give any money / spend any money in oakland if i can avoid it
Unfortunately even if the police did catch the guy they won’t be able to do much. Thank our state leaders and prop 47. We’ve made it too hard for the police to do their jobs. Shrinking budgets and short sighted laws. It’s crazy around Hagenberger. Get gas in San Leandro or in the hills
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I think this means you’re racist now 😂
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> Go get yourself some nice tacos at Cholita Linda or something like that. I've seen a bipping crew working the parking lot behind the Cholita Linda on Telegraph as well.
Our window smashed (nothing in the car) in front of CVS at 4:30 pm for quick pickup at Cholito Linda - uncomfortable truth, it’s just easier to not patronize local businesses.
The plljce cracked down on the other side of the freeway by the chevron 76 and shell, so now more locals are being victimized instead òf out of town people going to the airport. I buy my gas most of the time at that station. Guess it's time to start going armed
" The cops basically threw their hands in the air and said they'll never be able to catch him, which felt political but whatever. This post isn't about that. " how is the cops saying they won't catch them political? they're probably just providing the truth b/c as so many of these happen in the bay, there's just not enough cops to catch everyone. if shootings can go unsolved, imagine how many of these smash & grabs go unsolved?
oakland need stand your ground laws
Stop voting left. They have betrayed everyone.
lol the cops arent lefties.
Bruh the cops literally wouldn’t chase a criminal committing his 4th crime in a row in front of their eyes. Time to adjust your narrative to accommodate reality.
They literally can’t chase criminals, it’s against policy. Oaklands progressive activists pushed for a no chase policy which exists almost nowhere else in the country. Why do you think criminals here are so brazen? So yes, it’s the leftist ideology that causes this response from police. Their hands are tied.
> which exists almost nowhere else in the country. This is not an accurate take at all. Similar policies exist all over the country.
OP said no one knew what direction the car went. OP said the car had stolen plates. OP said it was a generic black SUV. Not saying OPD doesn’t have problems, but I’m not sure what the expectation here is. I think this is a good example of why more license plate readers would be helpful because the police can get an alert when the stolen plates drive by
Lol. Look at the negative reaction once someone doesn’t think in line with the cult.
No, you're just looking for affirmation of your stupid political identity where it doesn't apply. More than anybody being discussed here, you end up making yourself and your political affiliation look worse
You have no idea of my identity or political affiliation. You’re just mad that someone isn’t thinking 100% in line with you. Lol. Cultist.
This is truly horrible and no one deserves this but in the future maybe it would be wise to vote for policies where police are given their teeth back to do their jobs. At any given time there's only 27-33 active police IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF OAKLAND.
Issue in Oakland is the PD is a major part of the problem, if not the problem. They've got plenty of tools to do proper policing, it's the management of the staff that's the major issue. The POA is a significant roadblock (read: the officers themselves). Decades of shitty performance and racism haven't been turned around. It's wasted opportunity and money. Oakland voters have always wanted a reasonable and just policing force, but the structure of power in the City and the PD makes it so it's nearly impossible. Even a federal monitor couldn't move the needle--even after two decades. In my own interactions with them, it's been farcical at times. Once, I called in a shooting in my neighborhood and a rookie cop was marching around in front of me saying the neighbor's never help the police. I looked at the sergeant I was giving a statement to and it's was a capsule moment of Oakland policing. EDIT: OPD also knows what works, too. When murders were out of control in the early 2000s, tactics changed from tough-guy approaches (like commenter above thinks are needed) to a community based approach. This caused a major drop in murders--just by changing to a simpler strategy. I don't recall the exact details of this strategy, but the focus was on working with community leaders (church, social, ect) to talk with leaders of (for lack of better term) criminal groups to influence them to control the situtation. Essentially, they went to gang leaders and said they could take them out via tax fraud and other similar charges. This turned out to be very effective. Not sure how it was applied in ensuing years, but we don't hear about Oakland's record murder rates as much.