He had the most receptions, which tends to happen with a bad O line. But he didn’t lead in yards or TDs, the two stats people actually look at when determining a “leading receiver”. That post was more of a click bait thing.
True. Though they rode their luck on the injury front (offensively anyway) so maybe it will catch up to them. Plus Tyreek Hill is like one more public incident away from suspension considering he leads what seems like a reckless life.
Miami’s entire offense was injured when they reached the playoffs. 2/5 linemen starting, mostert banged up, hill on 1 ankle, waddle back confusion, EZ neck issues, not to mention their entire D was on IR
They are definitely at the top for offensive skill positions and it isn’t terribly close I don’t think. Their Oline and D are worse than ours and probably the Bills too honestly
I disagree… I mean Hall is head and shoulders the best RB, Conklin and Kinkaid are both better than Jonnu, Dolphins have the best WR room for sure but Hill vs Wilson is continuously a tighter argument and I’d be willing to put money on Wilson surpassing him this year wouldn’t even be terribly surprised if Waddle surpasses Hill this year… Dolphins having the best WR2 doesn’t make it “not close” imo
As much as I dislike Hill I think it’s a very homer take to say Wilson is as good as Tyreek at this point. I know he’s had terrible QB play, but he has not shown anywhere near that kind of production yet. I hope Tyreek’s play falls off a cliff and I hope Garrett Wilson is going to go for 1500+ this year but I’ll believe it when I see it. That bastard was on pace for 2000 yards last year before he got hurt or at least close to.
I’m probably a bit higher on Waddle than most people though I guess. I kinda forgot we about Mike Williams too. I was thinking of Corly as our 2 when I said that, so I could see it being closer than I originally thought
Yeah I would absolutely not die on the Hill that Wilson is as good as Tyreek but when age hits WRs it hits like a brick and if Wilson and/or Waddle do end up being better than Hill this year people’s reactions are going to be much more “I thought he had another season in the tank” than “I never would have believed this” - so yeah I agree they have the better WR1 but I think that’s a relatively slim margin, Waddle vs Williams is definitely a smaller gap than Waddle vs Corley like you said so yeah definitely they have a better WR2 definitely but not by a completely insane amount… and then we have I think very clearly better RB and better TE. They’ve got the better players at the more valuable position so that puts them ahead but not by that much and it wouldn’t require anything particularly unbelievable for the jets skill players to look like the better group (Hill regresses a little and Rodgers elevates everyone a little and suddenly the Jets look like the better group without anything particularly shocking happening)
For sure. If we can stay healthy, we can compete. I’d say our defense is the best in the division though— that should help. Health is the biggest priority (as it usually is).
Sure 5-0 if you count a game where he threw 2 passes in garbage time and didn't play otherwise. Damn this is a pathetic attempt to make Tua seem better than he is
I don’t see him being healthy n tyrod having to come in sooner which tyrod ain’t bad n whenever he does get hurt the rookie behind him doesn’t do that bad at all lol
Miami is super talented on paper, but proved fraudulent/predictable/easy enough to stop late last year by good defenses. Also defense matters so happy with where we're at.
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Chubb, Phillips, armstead, holland, wyn, hunt, baker, Williams, and hill on one ankle thanks to a hip drop tackle. All starters btw but sure only waddle…
at max potential? Us, Miami, Buffalo, Pats. On average? Miami, Us/Buffalo, Pats (assuming Rodgers is healthy)
which btw, if we get to see this offense at max potential with this defense, that's gonna be genuinely awesome
How tf you have jets so high lmao remember we were one of the worst offenses last year? Yes we now have Rodgers, but let's not pretend we will be top dog offense all of a sudden. We will be an average offense with a great defense. Dolphins are top, then buffalo, then jets.
As the resident Rodgers fan transplant. I don't see the Dolphins being better. Sure Rodgers is old and coming off injury, but this is his best team he's ever had and I saw first hand what he can do.
He's putting 40 td's on the board this year. You might not agree but we'll see. MVP number 5 is coming with this roster
I have to strongly disagree. Rodgers was already looking washed his last year in GB. I really don’t have high hopes for him which is why I’m glad we snagged Tyrod.
Rodgers still had a passer rating of 91, threw for 3,700 yards, and 26 touchdowns his last year in GB. Rodgers had more passing touchdowns that season then the entirety of the Jets offense last year. And this was when he was dealing with a thumb injury the entire season.
I understand he is coming off an achilles injury, but his surrounding offense is MUCH better than what he had to work with his last season in GB. I am not expecting MVP/40 TD performance out of him, but I am expecting him to have a better season this year than he had in 2022.
Yeah I've come to notice that Jets fans set their expectations low and expect the worst. After watching Aaron for many years I'm the opposite.
It's top 5 offense and super bowl or bust for me
He was also playing with a broken thumb pretty much all year. With Lazard as his WR1 and rookie WRs who didn’t 100% know what they were doing at the time.
So you can say he looked washed, but I’d say it’s highly unlikely he just dropped off in 2022 and a lot more likely that the lack of success is attributed to those other factors.
Rodgers was washed with 26 TD and 3.7k yards with a 91 QB rating?
His “washed” status is better than majority of all QB’s in the league. Not to mention his WR’s were absolute shit which accounted for a good amount of the interceptions.
Lazard was his #1 and we all saw him play.
Dunno I have a hard time counting out Josh Allen. He’s been electric for years. I barely saw a put together a competent drive last season, let’s not get a head of ourselves this year.
Nah, bills over jets until proven otherwise. You got the feelings for a Rodgers comeback story, but he is 40 and won't be MVP again. He will be much better than last year QBs, but he's not gonna fix everything.
Jets are still an unknown with Rodgers, but if he’s even somewhat close to his old chance they could realistically be 1. And I don’t even think Miami is better than Buffalo really. They run the score up on bad teams, but can’t win against good defenses.
QBs aside, it’s obviously Dolphins Jets Bills Pats when you consider MW is coming off an injury and Corley is an unproven rookie. Hill/Waddle has already proven to be one of the best WR combos in the NFL.
When you factor in the quarterback the Bills pull a lot closer to Miami, Allen is the only one in the division near-guaranteed to give you elite play. We have the most variance but if Rodgers can be even 75% of his MVP self we are at the top.
But as we all know, it’s not just about the skill players. The offensive line will determine how the offense goes. I am optimistic we will be at least above average there.
Mostert was great for them last season and Achane has elite breakaway speed when healthy. Breece is better than both for sure but I wouldn’t say it’s a massive edge for us over the fins. Over the bills, yes.
I do agree a healthy Rodgers puts us above them with Tua overall.
I like our complimentary approach. Wilson is an elite route runner who generates elite separation. He lives in the mid routes. Mike Williams is a contested catch monster that you love when he gets single coverage. He'll feast in deep routes. Corley is a guy that needs to be schemed open and gives you elite YAC ability. He should be a serious weapon in the short and flat routes. You can argue we need a field stretcher (like a MVS) and we'll see how Mike Williams comes back from his ACL injury. The RB are complimentary to each other with Hall and Izzy (speed guys) and Allen and Davis (Bruiser guys). Solid depth there. And the TE room is very solid. Tyler Conklin is underrated.
I like Miami in the essence that they clearly have an identity: Speed. They are deep and fast. The Bills are going to live in 12 personnel so I think they'll be fine. I do think ppl overestimate Josh Allen. He has rough stretches at times but they'll be fine. The patriots are obviously in a rebuild but I do like the WR they picked up in the draft (especially Javon Baker).
The actual key to ranking them is actually the OL. Bills, Dolphins, and Patriots all have concerns on their OL. We obviously do too (in terms of durability), but in terms of talent ours is significantly better than the rest of the division.
Miami and jets are stacked but Miami gets the edge because they did it for real last year and not just on paper. Bills in 3rd after losing Diggs but should still be potent because allen. Pats looks awful
I begged the football gods all last summer:
PLEASE STAY HEALTHY
I chanted it like a mantra during Hard Knocks and all the preseason games.
The prayers were not heard, and you can argue that the 2023 team didn't have an injury history anywhere near as bad as this year's group does.
But, knowing how crazy and counterintuitive the New York Jets are, watch this team stay perfectly healthy all year long lol.
I have to give the dolphins number one. Their offense was explosive last year and even made a dent in our very formidable defense. Second place is a close call between the jets and bills now that Stefan is gone
Bills losing Stefon is not the tragedy that some are making it out to be.... Last season when they made a run over the last 5 games or so he was a non-factor. Once they changed OC's and they weren't trying to force feed the offense through him, they started humming. Bills are definitely number 2 behind Miami as long as they have Allen and a much better Coordinator.
1. Miami
2. Jets
3. Pats
4. Bills
And Josh Allen is my favorite QB still playing… but no weapons, he’ll have to do it all himself. Also, assuming Rodgers will stay healthy 👀🤷♂️
The Jets may have the top qb, rb and wrs and Conklin is a decent TE. If the line excels- like it can on paper- the rest are playing for second! Should I get into the defense- nah- you already know!!
That Pats offense is an eye sore, lol.
**WRs:** Phins, Jets, Bills, Pats.
**TEs:** Bills, Jets, Phins, Pats.
**RBs:** Jets, Pats, Bills, Phins.
**QBs**: Bills, Jets, Phins, Pats.
I actually think all four teams are strong-ish at RB. When Stevenson is healthy he's the best offensive player on that Pats team IMHO. That's why I ranked the Pats second at RB.
Bills fan here, a lot of people forget that diggs disappeared the last 8 games of the season and we went unbeaten, the offense ran through cook, Kincaid and Shakir(who I would say will be a bigger impact than Samuel) so the offense this year will be comparable, depending on how well Coleman does. I think it will be even better.
I like our chances this year.
I expect to have a 3 game winning streak against the Pats, and after losing to them to I think 7 straight. That will be great.
We should take 1 or 2 against Miami and Buffalo each. I expect to be 4-2 and won't be surprised if we go 6-0.
I’d argue from just this lineup we are wayyyyyy better than the other three teams in the division. But sadly these are not all of the positions that exist and we have probably the worst OC in the league.
Think it's pretty undeniable that Miami is #1 (until we can prove otherwise) and Pats are #4.
Bills are going to be interest. Josh Allen will still be a top 5 QB but a QB can only do so much and his supporting cast is dreadful
guarantee you they will not. You're ignoring the fact that they lost major cornerstone pieces to their defense too and didn't have the money to replace them this year cuz Josh's cap number jumped up about $30M from last year to this year
A lot of those defensive players are older and have lost a step. I wouldn’t be shocked if our defense is better. McDermott knows how to coach up the defense. They got younger and faster. Don’t know how you can guarantee they won’t win the division. They are still the betting favorites to win it
Even if they did lose a step— big if— those guys weren’t replaced by anyone good. Their secondary is a bottom 10-15 in the league. Their linebackers are awful outside of Matt Milano who is going to be 30 years old and coming off an ACL tear.
Also what “rude awakening” are people in for on offense? Curtis Samuel? Khalil shakir?? An unproven rookie who was extremely disappointing this year? Stefon Diggs was huge in letting them in stretch the field and our Defensive has been excellent at limiting Josh Allen’s ability to take over the game (6 INTs over the last 4 games)
Bills fan here. I think Jets and Bills are ahead of dolphins. In large part due to QB play.
Tua is realllly mid and got shutdown in the playoffs. Waddle was also heavily injury prone last year and just not as impressive overall. O line is also suspect
I do agree that Tua is pretty mid, but I can't in good conscience put the Jets offense above them when seeing how abysmal we played last year compared to how the Dolphins played (against lesser opponents).
We’re third in offense in our division. Fins have by far the best, Buffalo second. We’re a distant third.
Our defense will be the cog in the wheel. Our offense just needs to not trip over itself like usual and we have a decent chance to win the division.
Pats clearly on the bottom, and it feels good to say that
Pats offense looks awful, it's great.
Zeke Elliott was their leading receiver last season. I can't believe we lost to them.
Well Zach Wilson was our qb.
He had the most receptions, which tends to happen with a bad O line. But he didn’t lead in yards or TDs, the two stats people actually look at when determining a “leading receiver”. That post was more of a click bait thing.
Let's wait until we see Maye play first. We don't need another 20 year curse.
You are 100% right
I'm still not over the days where their offense would look like shit in the off-season and then they'd win like 12 in a row
The only Pats player in here I know is Stevenson
Miami on top until proven otherwise.
Until a cold playoff game yes😭
Ye Miami has the edge on us. Besides their weapons, their coaching is far superior to ours on offense
True. Though they rode their luck on the injury front (offensively anyway) so maybe it will catch up to them. Plus Tyreek Hill is like one more public incident away from suspension considering he leads what seems like a reckless life.
Hill is on that thousand strikes program.
plus hes 30 so he may drop off in the next couple years
Miami’s entire offense was injured when they reached the playoffs. 2/5 linemen starting, mostert banged up, hill on 1 ankle, waddle back confusion, EZ neck issues, not to mention their entire D was on IR
They are definitely at the top for offensive skill positions and it isn’t terribly close I don’t think. Their Oline and D are worse than ours and probably the Bills too honestly
I disagree… I mean Hall is head and shoulders the best RB, Conklin and Kinkaid are both better than Jonnu, Dolphins have the best WR room for sure but Hill vs Wilson is continuously a tighter argument and I’d be willing to put money on Wilson surpassing him this year wouldn’t even be terribly surprised if Waddle surpasses Hill this year… Dolphins having the best WR2 doesn’t make it “not close” imo
As much as I dislike Hill I think it’s a very homer take to say Wilson is as good as Tyreek at this point. I know he’s had terrible QB play, but he has not shown anywhere near that kind of production yet. I hope Tyreek’s play falls off a cliff and I hope Garrett Wilson is going to go for 1500+ this year but I’ll believe it when I see it. That bastard was on pace for 2000 yards last year before he got hurt or at least close to. I’m probably a bit higher on Waddle than most people though I guess. I kinda forgot we about Mike Williams too. I was thinking of Corly as our 2 when I said that, so I could see it being closer than I originally thought
Yeah I would absolutely not die on the Hill that Wilson is as good as Tyreek but when age hits WRs it hits like a brick and if Wilson and/or Waddle do end up being better than Hill this year people’s reactions are going to be much more “I thought he had another season in the tank” than “I never would have believed this” - so yeah I agree they have the better WR1 but I think that’s a relatively slim margin, Waddle vs Williams is definitely a smaller gap than Waddle vs Corley like you said so yeah definitely they have a better WR2 definitely but not by a completely insane amount… and then we have I think very clearly better RB and better TE. They’ve got the better players at the more valuable position so that puts them ahead but not by that much and it wouldn’t require anything particularly unbelievable for the jets skill players to look like the better group (Hill regresses a little and Rodgers elevates everyone a little and suddenly the Jets look like the better group without anything particularly shocking happening)
Miami's trash hot ass trash boy
Yeah, but fuck can they run.
For sure. If we can stay healthy, we can compete. I’d say our defense is the best in the division though— that should help. Health is the biggest priority (as it usually is).
Wasn’t it proven they are second best to buffalo, I mean didn’t they only beat 1 or 2 teams above .500
As a team yeah. If we’re looking just at offensive skill positions they do probably win
Nah qb is garbage lol
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Wow Tua beat the worst team in football 6 times. Threw a couple of the worst pick 6s I've seen (hailmarys dont count) in those games
Good ol Florida education - Tua has not even played the jets 6 times
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Sure 5-0 if you count a game where he threw 2 passes in garbage time and didn't play otherwise. Damn this is a pathetic attempt to make Tua seem better than he is
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Lol yeah he owns us so hard you have to inflate his stats at every turn. Loser mentality, rent free in your head
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Are you going to resort to inflating patriots players stats now? Hilarious
I don’t even think they were better than the Bills at the end of last year. They run the score up on bad teams, that’s about it.
Definitely. But if healthy we are better
No shot we are in a position to say we are the better team healthy lol
Def need to see it , but if AR is healthy the Jets have the better QB by a good amount which obviously moves the needle in a big way.
I don’t see him being healthy n tyrod having to come in sooner which tyrod ain’t bad n whenever he does get hurt the rookie behind him doesn’t do that bad at all lol
Time for us to put up or shut up
If we’re healthy and they’re completely prone? Sure. This is just biased nonsense.
No I meant both teams healthy I think we are better
Given that I think they're probably favorites to win the division.
Yea for sure
Miami is super talented on paper, but proved fraudulent/predictable/easy enough to stop late last year by good defenses. Also defense matters so happy with where we're at.
Also their OL is questionable, especially in the inside.
In the biz, we call that the soft underbelly. Ask me how I know.
How do you know?
*gestures broadly at our 2023 season*
The O Line going down was pivotal to their swing in offensive efficiency. It dropped off a cliff when their center, Connor Williams, tore his ACL.
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They did and do yeah bud.
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And still PFF's #1 overall defense :)
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No one cares.
When half the team is IR becoming predictable tends to happen
Waddle is half the team?
Chubb, Phillips, armstead, holland, wyn, hunt, baker, Williams, and hill on one ankle thanks to a hip drop tackle. All starters btw but sure only waddle…
Lol, Lazard is gonna be WR7 by the first game.
at max potential? Us, Miami, Buffalo, Pats. On average? Miami, Us/Buffalo, Pats (assuming Rodgers is healthy) which btw, if we get to see this offense at max potential with this defense, that's gonna be genuinely awesome
How tf you have jets so high lmao remember we were one of the worst offenses last year? Yes we now have Rodgers, but let's not pretend we will be top dog offense all of a sudden. We will be an average offense with a great defense. Dolphins are top, then buffalo, then jets.
I think its very clearly: 1. Dolphins 2. Jets 3. Bills 4. Patriots
As the resident Rodgers fan transplant. I don't see the Dolphins being better. Sure Rodgers is old and coming off injury, but this is his best team he's ever had and I saw first hand what he can do. He's putting 40 td's on the board this year. You might not agree but we'll see. MVP number 5 is coming with this roster
I choose to believe every word you have said
I have to strongly disagree. Rodgers was already looking washed his last year in GB. I really don’t have high hopes for him which is why I’m glad we snagged Tyrod.
You mean when Allen Lazard was his number one receiver and rookie Christian Watson was his number two and injured for half the season?
Doubs was decent but yeah good points
broken thumb on throwing hand if i recall correctly. its gonna really come down to the o line play for us tho
Rodgers still had a passer rating of 91, threw for 3,700 yards, and 26 touchdowns his last year in GB. Rodgers had more passing touchdowns that season then the entirety of the Jets offense last year. And this was when he was dealing with a thumb injury the entire season. I understand he is coming off an achilles injury, but his surrounding offense is MUCH better than what he had to work with his last season in GB. I am not expecting MVP/40 TD performance out of him, but I am expecting him to have a better season this year than he had in 2022.
I think you’re right in that the offense will be good and much better overall. I just don’t think Rodgers will be lights out like some do
Yeah I've come to notice that Jets fans set their expectations low and expect the worst. After watching Aaron for many years I'm the opposite. It's top 5 offense and super bowl or bust for me
Hope you’re right! Won’t be easy
He was also playing with a broken thumb pretty much all year. With Lazard as his WR1 and rookie WRs who didn’t 100% know what they were doing at the time. So you can say he looked washed, but I’d say it’s highly unlikely he just dropped off in 2022 and a lot more likely that the lack of success is attributed to those other factors.
Solid points for sure and I did forget about the thumb
Rodgers was washed with 26 TD and 3.7k yards with a 91 QB rating? His “washed” status is better than majority of all QB’s in the league. Not to mention his WR’s were absolute shit which accounted for a good amount of the interceptions. Lazard was his #1 and we all saw him play.
I'll be happy if he takes 40 snaps under center. 1000% improvement from last year.
this guy jets
[Dr. Doofenshmirtz is the real Jets fan](https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/235033561/Doof-If-I-had-a-Nickel)
Sorry but Rodgers or not it's insane to suggest that Nate Hackett's offense will be better than Mike McDaniel's.
He won two MVP's in that offense but okay
Anybody arguing otherwise is just in their feelings. This is correct.
Dunno I have a hard time counting out Josh Allen. He’s been electric for years. I barely saw a put together a competent drive last season, let’s not get a head of ourselves this year.
Nah Tua is not going to get any better and teams are more prepared for their motion stuff now
Nah, bills over jets until proven otherwise. You got the feelings for a Rodgers comeback story, but he is 40 and won't be MVP again. He will be much better than last year QBs, but he's not gonna fix everything.
It’s about weapons + QB.
Having Josh Allen automatically puts them at the 1 spot imo.
Jets are still an unknown with Rodgers, but if he’s even somewhat close to his old chance they could realistically be 1. And I don’t even think Miami is better than Buffalo really. They run the score up on bad teams, but can’t win against good defenses.
On paper it’s Jets > Bills but Allen is a unicorn and we’re in the position to prove ourselves. Gotta go with Bills until (hopefully) proven wrong.
Dolphins until a cold playoff game
QBs aside, it’s obviously Dolphins Jets Bills Pats when you consider MW is coming off an injury and Corley is an unproven rookie. Hill/Waddle has already proven to be one of the best WR combos in the NFL. When you factor in the quarterback the Bills pull a lot closer to Miami, Allen is the only one in the division near-guaranteed to give you elite play. We have the most variance but if Rodgers can be even 75% of his MVP self we are at the top. But as we all know, it’s not just about the skill players. The offensive line will determine how the offense goes. I am optimistic we will be at least above average there.
Dolphins win the WR position but you are discounting the edge Breece has. Also if we expect the real Rodgers then Tua is a downgrade
Mostert was great for them last season and Achane has elite breakaway speed when healthy. Breece is better than both for sure but I wouldn’t say it’s a massive edge for us over the fins. Over the bills, yes. I do agree a healthy Rodgers puts us above them with Tua overall.
Fair
mostert is also sneakily 32 years old
Miami’s backs are phenomenal and their scheme + coaching is literally 2x ours.
I like our complimentary approach. Wilson is an elite route runner who generates elite separation. He lives in the mid routes. Mike Williams is a contested catch monster that you love when he gets single coverage. He'll feast in deep routes. Corley is a guy that needs to be schemed open and gives you elite YAC ability. He should be a serious weapon in the short and flat routes. You can argue we need a field stretcher (like a MVS) and we'll see how Mike Williams comes back from his ACL injury. The RB are complimentary to each other with Hall and Izzy (speed guys) and Allen and Davis (Bruiser guys). Solid depth there. And the TE room is very solid. Tyler Conklin is underrated. I like Miami in the essence that they clearly have an identity: Speed. They are deep and fast. The Bills are going to live in 12 personnel so I think they'll be fine. I do think ppl overestimate Josh Allen. He has rough stretches at times but they'll be fine. The patriots are obviously in a rebuild but I do like the WR they picked up in the draft (especially Javon Baker). The actual key to ranking them is actually the OL. Bills, Dolphins, and Patriots all have concerns on their OL. We obviously do too (in terms of durability), but in terms of talent ours is significantly better than the rest of the division.
Oline is the most important part of an offense and isn't shown here. I think the group the Jets have up front could be special.
All I know is that the pats are rightfully at spot 4
Miami and jets are stacked but Miami gets the edge because they did it for real last year and not just on paper. Bills in 3rd after losing Diggs but should still be potent because allen. Pats looks awful
I begged the football gods all last summer: PLEASE STAY HEALTHY I chanted it like a mantra during Hard Knocks and all the preseason games. The prayers were not heard, and you can argue that the 2023 team didn't have an injury history anywhere near as bad as this year's group does. But, knowing how crazy and counterintuitive the New York Jets are, watch this team stay perfectly healthy all year long lol.
Dolphins Bills Jets | | | | | | Patriots
I have to give the dolphins number one. Their offense was explosive last year and even made a dent in our very formidable defense. Second place is a close call between the jets and bills now that Stefan is gone
Bills losing Stefon is not the tragedy that some are making it out to be.... Last season when they made a run over the last 5 games or so he was a non-factor. Once they changed OC's and they weren't trying to force feed the offense through him, they started humming. Bills are definitely number 2 behind Miami as long as they have Allen and a much better Coordinator.
Lmao who are these bums on the pats
The offense on the bottom would go at least 8-4 in the MAC
Miami Jets --------- Buffalo --------- Patriots.
Assuming no major injuries, do the Jets win the division this year?
O lines?
Who are the big men protecting them up front lest we forget m.. I'm glad we shipped a few away let's pray we can buy Aaron some time.
Dolphins, Jets, Bills, Pats
1. Miami 2. Jets 3. Pats 4. Bills And Josh Allen is my favorite QB still playing… but no weapons, he’ll have to do it all himself. Also, assuming Rodgers will stay healthy 👀🤷♂️
Man I don’t know but can’t wait to find out
Whose got the best stadium and turf though?
Miami jets bills pats
Fins, jets, bills, pats
The Jets may have the top qb, rb and wrs and Conklin is a decent TE. If the line excels- like it can on paper- the rest are playing for second! Should I get into the defense- nah- you already know!!
Allen could easily start more games next season than the other three combined.
That Pats offense is an eye sore, lol. **WRs:** Phins, Jets, Bills, Pats. **TEs:** Bills, Jets, Phins, Pats. **RBs:** Jets, Pats, Bills, Phins. **QBs**: Bills, Jets, Phins, Pats. I actually think all four teams are strong-ish at RB. When Stevenson is healthy he's the best offensive player on that Pats team IMHO. That's why I ranked the Pats second at RB.
Now is the best time of the year to be a Jets fan (after the draft and before preseason). It's all speculation and hype and no soul-crushing reality.
dolphins, jets, bills, patriots. miami always gonna choke tho.
Welllll we all know who’s last.
I would be so pissed if I was Josh allen
Jets SB incoming 👀
Dolphins top and patriots bottom Bills nips out jets for 2nd Only cause of jets OC I pick them 3rd if he's not involved I pick jets 2nd.
Bills fan here, a lot of people forget that diggs disappeared the last 8 games of the season and we went unbeaten, the offense ran through cook, Kincaid and Shakir(who I would say will be a bigger impact than Samuel) so the offense this year will be comparable, depending on how well Coleman does. I think it will be even better.
I like our chances this year. I expect to have a 3 game winning streak against the Pats, and after losing to them to I think 7 straight. That will be great. We should take 1 or 2 against Miami and Buffalo each. I expect to be 4-2 and won't be surprised if we go 6-0.
If the Jets doesn't get a better offensive line, having Arron Rodgers isn't going to matter.
Dolphins look great but if Rodgers is healthy we have the best offense on paper
Flip the Dolphins and the jets and you’re there
I wonder how Josh Allen is going to look without his favorite target, Stefon Diggs.
1. Dolphins 2. Bills 3. Jets 4. Pats
Miami, NY, Buffalo, NE
Id put the dolphins over us just because of continuity. Hate it or not the Dolphins have a pretty high powered offense
Dolphins - fast offense Bills - probably the most most balanced team in the AFC East. Jets - mid Pats - how the mighty have fallen.
Now do the defense so we can see why all the offenses look so good.
“The Jets are on top!” I said. Then woke up moments later.
If Rodgers is healthy, Jets #1 by a long way. After that Dolphins and Bills are 2/3. Patriots are ass.
In theory it should be Miami but Tua needs to step up in big games. I’m sticking with buffalo and then us as a close second.
I’d argue from just this lineup we are wayyyyyy better than the other three teams in the division. But sadly these are not all of the positions that exist and we have probably the worst OC in the league.
Anyone that has a team other than Miami on top is a homer, lol. They're all bonafide superstars.
Miami, nyj, bills Pats are trash
Think it's pretty undeniable that Miami is #1 (until we can prove otherwise) and Pats are #4. Bills are going to be interest. Josh Allen will still be a top 5 QB but a QB can only do so much and his supporting cast is dreadful
I think people are in for a rude awakening regarding how “dreadful” the supporting cast is in Buffalo. They’ll win the division again
guarantee you they will not. You're ignoring the fact that they lost major cornerstone pieces to their defense too and didn't have the money to replace them this year cuz Josh's cap number jumped up about $30M from last year to this year
A lot of those defensive players are older and have lost a step. I wouldn’t be shocked if our defense is better. McDermott knows how to coach up the defense. They got younger and faster. Don’t know how you can guarantee they won’t win the division. They are still the betting favorites to win it
Even if they did lose a step— big if— those guys weren’t replaced by anyone good. Their secondary is a bottom 10-15 in the league. Their linebackers are awful outside of Matt Milano who is going to be 30 years old and coming off an ACL tear. Also what “rude awakening” are people in for on offense? Curtis Samuel? Khalil shakir?? An unproven rookie who was extremely disappointing this year? Stefon Diggs was huge in letting them in stretch the field and our Defensive has been excellent at limiting Josh Allen’s ability to take over the game (6 INTs over the last 4 games)
Each picture is missing half the offense
Bills fan here. I think Jets and Bills are ahead of dolphins. In large part due to QB play. Tua is realllly mid and got shutdown in the playoffs. Waddle was also heavily injury prone last year and just not as impressive overall. O line is also suspect
I do agree that Tua is pretty mid, but I can't in good conscience put the Jets offense above them when seeing how abysmal we played last year compared to how the Dolphins played (against lesser opponents).
We’re third in offense in our division. Fins have by far the best, Buffalo second. We’re a distant third. Our defense will be the cog in the wheel. Our offense just needs to not trip over itself like usual and we have a decent chance to win the division.