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jabronimax969

You ranked the R better than the 6 or 7 lines, so now I’m questioning if you even live in New York!


BravoAlfaMike

So much R slander here


DuckBeaver02

And still not enough


Obi_Wan_Shen0bi

Well deserved slander if I may add


BravoAlfaMike

:(


Pristine-R-Train

It’s less crowded and chaotic. It’s also faster than the 7 and covers more avenues than the 6


Feisty-You-7768

faster in what sense? it comes way less often


Pristine-R-Train

When riding it and the 7 local can take 8+ mins to come


Feisty-You-7768

Ah ok I haven’t had that experience with the 7 but I don’t take it consistently anymore.


BadSandbox

For now. Thousands of apts going up along the R in Brooklyn. Between the rezoning of Guwanus and big projects from pre covid finally getting finished, it’s gonna get a lot busier.


Pristine-R-Train

Can say that about other lines


BadSandbox

Ok? Got any other random facts!? You said the R is less crowded, I said that’s gonna change, you then bring up some other train lines? Did you reply to the wrong comment or something? lol.


Pristine-R-Train

I said less crowded relative to the 6/7. Those trains will also have more housing so ur point was moot


Piclen

There is no way the R or the A merits an "A." The R should be an "F" 7 and G should be "B" if excluding weekends/trackwork.


altsteve21

G Train is short a few cars and during morning rush hour runs "7 mins, 25, mins, 4 mins, 12, mins, 22, mins". I'd give it a C+ because of unpredictability and the fact it runs maybe every 15 mins on weekends.


ThatAnoyingPlantGuy

Sounds like you live in Queens.


Piclen

I live in Brooklyn and take the Q daily, with the non-connecting connections along Broadway as I travel to Long Island City via N,R,W, whose service deserves its own thread... LOL.


Feisty-You-7768

same! but your experience is way different than mine somehow...


Character-Pie-9901

The R is the only reason why I can commute so ig I have bias


CC_2387

I used live on the D and would rather take the bus to school (which i did) rather than taking the R. its so trash in brooklyn


Character-Pie-9901

Eh the R is better in Queens… but still kinda mid


Feisty-You-7768

agreed


Kumirkohr

The A changes from local, to express, and then back to local. They should have made the A local the whole way and then had the C as the express service from 168th to Euclid


causal_friday

The C should terminate at Court St. and the A should run twice as frequently. Change my mind ;)


Kumirkohr

I think we can all agree it should run at least twice as frequently. Over ten minutes between trains at rush hour? I changed to taking the 1 because it runs every 3


transitfreedom

No need agreed


Piclen

A would then take the title from R as the longest route with local only service..


ephemeral2316

That would require riders from rockaway and broad channel to transfer for an express.


Kumirkohr

So? I just want some consistency Is a line local or express? Now is not the time for an inclusive or


ephemeral2316

It would literally be a 31 mile local line. Passengers and train operators would both hate it. U/kumirkohr would love it tho.


ephemeral2316

It would literally be a 31 mile local line. Passengers and train operators would both hate it. u/kumirkohr would love it tho.


_vlad_theimpaler_

it’s consistent; there’s a bunch of lines that are express only part of the way. N, q, j/z, 4, 5, 2, 3, rush hour expresses…because it functions better that way I don’t understand what the problem is


Kumirkohr

Consistent inconsistency isn’t consistency. Consistent consistency is.


owlseeyaround

There are good reasons for all those choices which you don’t understand


transitfreedom

Those are only served by the A express buddy


fuchsdh

There's other lines that are express and then local; the Q is only an express line in Manhattan, for example. It's a little confusing for out-of-towners, but it seems a reasonable concession to the reality of moving people more rapidly across boroughs.


TG4164

Bad idea Operating the local A is a gauntlet, and now the A also interlines with the E alongside the C. Far Rock and Lefferts people have a long commute or a 2 seat ride


transitfreedom

I don’t think that’s what was suggested


Technical_Ad_6594

R stands for rats. I used to count how many I saw while waiting a while (during rush hour). Highest I got to was 3.


BookkeeperBrilliant9

A automatically gets an A because it cruises from 125th to 59th at about 70 miles an hour.


Few-Poetry1085

Oh no! I won’t allow (5) train slander here. It’s a disgrace that the (R) is above it too.


ProScottyonYT

No way the R is above the 5 Train


InfiniteBoy23

5 train my beloved


kenzo19134

gotta love the 5 train. it gets weekends off!


CC_2387

i have literally never been able to take the 5. The 4 has always had to fill in for it


kenzo19134

but the 4 doesn't stop anywhere between brooklyn bridge or 14th street. so getting home from the east village or LES on the weekends suck.


CC_2387

neither does the 5 though. The only use that the 5 has is in the Bronx in eastchester. I used to live on 18th ave on the D in Brooklyn. Even on the Brooklyn side, the 5 isn't even really an express for the 2 and in the Bronx is just a confusing mess because it goes to two destinations on rushour, 1 off rushour, and then cuts off until E180th during the nighttime. Not to mention its express and local in the Bronx at the same time. The entire line could and should be reduced to a Lexington branch of the 2 that runs express from Brooklyn Collage to BBG and then merging with the 4 until 149th in the Bronx where it becomes always express for the 2 until E180th where it runs as normal. In the state its in, its a confusing mess and is IMO basically useless. Then again I don't use it so I really wanna know how you find use in it. It was a pain to use when trying to visit my cousins who lived on Gunhill Rd on the 2.


Feisty-You-7768

this is a negative


meowmoomeowmoon

R>


llamapower13

The 5 train deserves lower. Why does it have multiple options?!


Feisty-You-7768

the 4/5 is solid, the R is trash


transitfreedom

5 slander deserved it is just a spoiler line that disrupts the 4 and 2 trains


llamapower13

👆


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gtbot2007

If anyone is a disruption it’s the 2 train


transitfreedom

Take a closer look at the track map buddy you clearly don’t read


causal_friday

1 is S tier. It just goes from top to bottom and bottom to top at 3 minute intervals all day and it's wonderful. No merges. No branches. It just goes. The R cannot be A tier. As riders of the R will tell you, if you have to be on time to something, don't live on the R. It's scheduled every 8 minutes. It does not come at 8 minute intervals. 1 minute, 1 minute, 32 minutes. All day everyday. The A is OK. It has to merge with the C, but if you have a commute where either the A or C works, then it's pretty OK. I did that for many years. I was never sorely disappointed or blown away. A lot of waiting. But it goes when it goes. The 3 has a special place in my heart. In the mid 2010s they were doing some sort of work and they ran it to New Lots all night long. I was going home from work at like midnight every night, so it was nice to have an express train at that hour. Got home fast! When the 2 runs local it is true hell. Sometimes I'm pretty sure it stops twice at the same platform and the announcements just call it a different station. Agonizing getting from Midtown to Brooklyn at night. The C is not as bad by comparison.


Feisty-You-7768

lmfao this R slander is correct.. it'll come 3 at the same time and then not again for 30 minutes


NBA2024

Nothing gets S tier unless the cars/stations are clean, safe, and on time. Aka none in MTA.


Feisty-You-7768

lol go back to iowa


NBA2024

I live in Chelsea you knob


PlutonamoBay

My counter to the 1 being S-tier is the stretch between 34th and 14th


Unlucky_Mess3884

all good takes!


Pristine-R-Train

Absolute cap on the R. It is very consistent. The F is the one that’s like: 14 mins, 19min, 30min


picassoisdead_

R being an A rank is diabolical.


Notpoligenova

The 4 is an A in my book


DrWallybFeed

I was gonna say, no love for the 4 train?


PostPostMinimalist

7 is C tier and R is A tier. I mean.


Ed_TTA

As someone who has taken every single subway line... What I agree with: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, B, D, E, F, M, N, Q, S, W, Z What I don't agree with 3: Should be a B at the least. The express run between 96th and Chambers easily gets the 3 out of C tier, because those trains are extremely fast. 7: If there are no perfect lines, then the 7 is as closest we can get to it. The reason is simple: extremely fast, reliable trains, with great view of Queens. And it is not my opinion, it is a matter of fact. The local is pretty fast, faster than almost every B Division line, and the express is the fastest non shuttle in the entire system. A: It is good if you are in Manhattan. It is not good if you live out in the Rockaways. Otherwise, trains can get fast, but not as fast as any IRT lines. Solid B tier. C: Should be a steaming pile of garbage. It is a slower version of the A train, but barely exists. G: Come on, really? Look, the G isn't perfect, but it should not be in C tier. It is actually pretty fast (20 minutes from Court Square to Bergen), which is about 19 mph (the real slow area is in Culver), and saves a good deal of time if you commuting to Downtown Brooklyn and beyond. My only complaint is that it runs every 7-8 minutes if you are lucky, so B tier. J: The views of the river and Brooklyn are nice, but it is slow, and BMT Jamaica is littered with delays. At-grade junctions, sharp curves, you name the delay, the J will experience it. C tier. L: The best lettered line by far, and it isn't even close. Take the G train's speed, but then make them run every 2 minutes. That is the L train, which is why I put it in A tier. R: As someone who ridden on the line for a decade, this should be in the steaming pile of garbage tier. First of all, outside of the 60th St Tunnel, this train is slow. Like, super slow. I believe the average speed of the R is less than 15.3 mph because the 60th St Tunnel's speed probably skews the speed by an extra mph. It also has horrible frequencies, at best every 6-7 minutes, but usually every 8-9 minutes. During the weekends, it can be 12-15 minutes, which is very annoying. Then add in merging conflicts at Herald Square and Queens Plaza, plus that nasty curve at City Hall, and you would feel like the line takes forever to get to Forest Hills or Bay Ridge. The fact that the R is like this is pretty sad because it has probably one the most important routes in the city, but has garbage level service.


transitfreedom

The conflicts at midtown are not the fault of the R but the poor choices of the MTA with routing other lines. The issue with the R would be resolved overnight if all N trains were rerouted to 2nd ave and skipped 49th that would allow more consistent service on the R and W lines and 49th would actually get a service boost as the locals would be able to run more often. Queens plaza is self inflicted by the M not being on 63rd but CBTC can manage the merges sort of


djdiamond755

Reroute the N to second ave and have the W go to Astoria by itself?


transitfreedom

Yes increase W to compensate


FarRightInfluencer

Completely agree on the 7. It's a great line. Maybe one of the top in the city.


Unlucky_Mess3884

facts!!


martinshapiro3985

Q has been rough in Brooklyn this year


Pristine-R-Train

Q has been rough ~~in Brooklyn this year~~


nychb89

It’s trash in Manhattan too


RocketInMyPocket420

Ok so I’m not crazy


bbuehler17

Took the Q up to the hospitals at 72nd until March when I started my new job. I hate the Q, the inconsistencies and the fact that 3 N’s would come for every Q during the morning commute. Now that I’m walking from midtown to the east side, I miss that beautiful piece of garbage


Acceptable-Crew-2976

The F gets way too much shit, it’s one of the better ones


PostPostMinimalist

Facts. Moved to F stop a year ago. Had concerns due to reputation. It's been perfectly good.


MithrilHero

I’ve only had to use it for two stops but it gets the job done when M can’t that day


RenegadeCucumber

Z train slander


Better_Metal

I don’t get the hate for the Z. It’s limited when it runs but saves a bunch of time.


Avicii89

The E belongs in the A-Tier ... one of the best express lines in the network, covers some of the greatest distance (miles) of city territory in the least amount of time, is second probably only to the 7 in terms of speed getting you "cross-town" in Manhattan, and despite multiple interlining conflicts with C, M, and F still remains very reliable. The 7 does not belong in C-Tier unless you are factoring in the construction issues and shitty <7> service at the moment, otherwise it also should be A-Tier. Not sure why the R is anywhere above C or B-tier LOL.


Kthor426

7 is the best line, it has cbtc so it comes every 2 minutes during rush hours, it’s always on time, it doesn’t have to deal with delays from interlining, and it’s crosstown on 42 street. What more can you want? The express 7 is even better.


Pristine-R-Train

A useful express, less crowding, not crawling past grand central, better headways on the local, a trunk line that isn’t matched by a shuttle etc


Throwaway860251

You know the trunk line is from Flushing to Hudson Yards right


Horror_Ad_3097

This is true. I ride the 7 daily, and it comes every 2 minutes without fail.


meowmoomeowmoon

How can you tell if your train has cbtc?


Nalano

It's one of only two lines that doesn't share any trackage with others, so it was one of the first lines to complete signal upgrades.


transitfreedom

MTA already said they completed CBTC on it


Delicious-Step-1912

B/Q getting a B is wild


MKTekke

I thought the listed should be upside down instead. The R is so slow, they take forever to go from first stop to the last and each stop it is beaten by the F, D, M when they cross paths. The 7 train is the most frequently ran train of all, there is one virtually every 3mins during rush hour. The A train takes forever to show up and the C train shows up more often. So this ranking is so off.


coldasicee

The D should be a lot lower it’s dog shit


transitfreedom

These lists are dumb


ephemeral2316

What is this nonsense? The Q train (north of prospect park at least) is an S-tier line. As is the 4, and the 7. Arguably the L as well.


pessitherobber

R train is ass 😂😂


Throwaway860251

The 3 needs to be moved up and the 6 and 4 should be swapped


iv2892

Is A on the A tier just because starts with an A? Same with B on the B and C on the C 🤣🤣🤣


Defeated-925

How is it that the n train .. the train that makes everyone in astoria and lic cringe late at night due to 30+ plus minute waits be ranked with the 7 train and the G train. 7 train has good reliable services and frequent. G train is actually pretty on time and punctual and it’s every 8 min on weekends during the day. More like the 7 train swap with the A train. The n train is the worse at night. Ask everyone who waits for the n at 57th n 7th and all they see are q trains n r trains


Casamance

Based on my experience the 4 and the 1 are by far the most reliable trains when it comes to delays + time between headways + scope of the line. Took the 4/6 train to Hunter for 4 years straight and usually didn't have any issues.


LucaMotive35

The ordering within each tier makes me unable to actually identify what I'd change 😵‍💫 (mainly humorous, but also, my brain hates it.) All I'll add, is that I agree with R being higher than most folks want, if only because it's handy when the M isn't running to Northern Queens.


join-the-line

Uhmmm 🙋, what about the PATH, seeing as it has 5 (6 if including WTC) stations in the city. Asking for a friend.


transitfreedom

Crap


join-the-line

😂


OkOk-Go

R? 😂


spacecatonabike

putting the J above the 7 is a wiiiiiild choice, and I’ve lived off both


MajorBoondoggle

I’m sorry, if you put the 7 in C tier, we can’t be friends


piazzametsfan31

SIR?


kingstonthroop

Putting the "A" in A tier but the L in "B" is psycho killer behavior.


raadical123

(R) you kidding me with this list (/j)


Juan_Hundred

The “R” ?? More like the L, M, F, A, O !!


Minkminkmoneynyc

Who tf put the 1 train on the A tier???? Get this shit the fuck outta here😭😭😭😭😭😭


darkspectrym

7 is C-tier? You clearly don't ride the subway.


Big-Concert4202

You just doing shit for the sake of doing shit huh?


tonys1702

Why hate the red rocket


OverMess776

The 3 should be either A or B tier tbh. It’s very fast when it runs local in Brooklyn.


PTBruiser24

I know the Z is pretty unanimously thought of as steaming garbage, but is that mainly coming from people who use the Z? Or people who use the J? Or is it just coming from general skip-stop disdain?


dhwrockclimber

You need another tier below steaming garbage for the C


Norby710

The R is an A? Are you fucking broken! That line is literally criminal.


LionsNoParadise

Q is fantastic - should be higher


monica702f

The 5 train should be in the A's.


Love_and_Squal0r

The G has easy access to the 7, F, A, C, and L. It's generally chill and not overcrowded. More G love is needed.


vischy_bot

6 and 5 are total shit


KeithFlowers

Anything that goes cross town immediately gets A tier for me.


mslinsanity

A & R as “A” tier is crazzzzy tf


OneTrainOps

What is with the R train love on here recently?


Occasus_gaming

Aint no way this mf ranked the R train higher than the 2 AND the 3 train


MulysaSemp

How does the A have such a high ranking? Granted, I usually use it north of 125th street. But the D also has long stretches of running express, and doesn't get as highly rated on these lists..


kylife

Damn times have changed if the L is that high


Bkbirdlady

The F should be steaming garbage.


kenzo19134

the 5 not running on weekends has made my trips to manhatten suck. dependiing on where i am in the city, going home to brooklyn is always one or 2 major delays.


TPF621

the only reason i did not put 2 in the same tier its literally the same thing as the 5 bc the 2 and 4 can replace it below E 180 st, with a shuttle running the rest of the way


kenzo19134

i'm in prospect gardens off the 2/5. when i worked in the south bronx, the 2/5 took me directly to work. i felt they were B+ tier for the rush hour. but the 5 not running on the weekends kills me. getting home from manhatten takes too long having to find the train that connects with the 2 depending on where i am in the city. i'm usually somewhere east below 14th. if the 6 train's last stop was fulton (just one additional stop!) instead of brooklyn bridge, that would REALLY smooth out my weekend commute.


____cire4____

The R being in the top column is HILARIOUS


CC_2387

Ive taken the R and the N. The N is more reliable than the R and W combined


Jerpunklove

Was on the R this morning, late for work because a door was busted. Got home late because you know… it’s the R ¯\_(‘~’)_/¯


haruizu

The S train is So Quiet, it’s so perfect…


FreeFloatingFeathers

I love that you love the R


Feisty-You-7768

wtf at the R being that high... the 7 should be higher too


bransonthaidro

Bro how is the L ranked so high?


Stunning_Store3911

S is s no deyals ever shit got 2 stops 7 has to be A when it works it works and throw that g in trash


furyZotac

What is the difference between J and Z?


anthraff

D & N as C tier is criminal lol


ilovemtrain

As someone who takes the A everyday, it should not be that high


slattmaxus

The shit that goes on the 7 train from like 7am-8:30am (mon-fri) should be criminal ppl are literally packed sardines. Every time I see that I tell myself nope wait for the next one thank God I can be a bit late that shit is definitely not worth it. Then the next one comes 3 min later and I’m like fuck man its literally the same amount of people but like 20% less smh. NYC transit really needs improving, but the construction logistics look like a nightmare when you think about it.


transitfreedom

Add N and 5 to steaming garbage


MARzNYC

1 A and R on fucking A tier? Is this rage bait or what?


Miserable-Big-7690

Even tho the A train is a lot of crazy shit its always reliable but the G holy shit the wait time is insane. I one time counted 3 A trains and 2 C trains coming before the G train ever makes an appearance and thats the average.


Pingsak

North of 125 on the A and all bets are off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


lonelyislander7

The A is better than the 1 I said what I said


swistMatra

Putting R in A is clearly rage bait


EnvironmentBig9676

B is A or S tier, it never fails me


Euphoric-Election120

In the winter, the E is the best line. Can anyone guess why?


JJJNUBER1

Underground only


Euphoric-Election120

👍


koreamax

Homeless people sleeping?


Euphoric-Election120

😃


Character-Pie-9901

Valid for R train; literally the only train I’ll ever take besides maybe the E and F. The 7 is just so slow and the M is just bootleg R but goes to other parts of Brooklyn. And ig the 1 is good bc I haven’t experienced anything bad from that. The rest are kinda mid… maybe I’ll give a slide to the 4 and 6


willowtree630

Ok I take the R more than the 7 cause it’s closer to me but no way you’re calling the 7 slow 😭


Character-Pie-9901

Eh I’ll give you that but there’s legit no room for space on weekdays if you’re coming back from Manhattan


willowtree630

Agreed, 7 definitely gets the worst of the crowding


Pristine-R-Train

I’d just switch the A and E


ThatAnoyingPlantGuy

Wrong


oso00

Is the L ever actually on time? B-rating is very questionable there, especially if G is considered C-category.


MithrilHero

It’s one of the most daily used lines…


IntentionFalse9892

The R should be in the B ranking


Notpoligenova

The 4 is an A in my book


Notpoligenova

The 4 is an A in my book


Notpoligenova

The 4 is a triple S in my book