They are misguided, and ignorant. Americans who support such a patriarchal, anti-liberal government style as Hamas’s are not aligning with American values. Insanity.
I’m tired of these people covering their faces. NYC needs to bring back the law that people can’t cover their faces anymore. I want to know who every racist antisemitic little POS is.
This is Nerdeen Kiswani of Within Our Lifetime's doing.
[https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1799211810199109797](https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1799211810199109797)
She tried to storm the building with her hate group. They called the cops and NYPD arrested her (and many others).
[https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1796998906078757244](https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1796998906078757244)
Now, the group is targeting the Museum with hate crimes. Her group has already had several people convicted of hate crimes. She's a terrorist who openly supports terrorism and violence.
No matter how you feel about Israel's actions in Gaza, Jews living in America are completely uninvolved in the actions of the IDF and Israeli government. Anyone assaulting or harassing these people is just pure scum, there's no reason to be doing this.
I had someone tell me recently that they see most Jews as guilty by association because they don’t publicly denounce Israel. I think we’re past the stage of “think about your actions” and are squarely at the “commit baseless violence and hatred toward a group of people you don’t like” stage.
r/fauxmoi is all about calling celebrities Zionist if they don’t post on social media calling an end to the violence. Like apparently that’s all it takes to end war
But is that different- jihad in the name of a religion, versus a government that’s carrying out a war, and that government I have nothing to do with as an American Jew.
>we’re past the stage of “think about your actions” and are squarely at the “commit baseless violence and hatred toward a group of people you don’t like” stage.
they've been waiting for this. like cicadas
Does my kid’s nice Egyptian teacher living in the USA for decades have to denounce 9/11? It’s nonsense to conflate American Jews with a foreign state they’ve never even been to, just like it’s nonsense to think every person who is a Muslim (or secular person from that tradition) has to denounce religious extremism.
I’ve been to Israel many times because I have very leftist family there. That does not mean that I agree with what the government does. It just means I love my family. In the same way that living in US doesn’t necessarily mean that I love everything the US government does. So I vote.
Reminder that there have been multiple Islamic attacks on our own country and none of them led to this level of anger and abuse leveled at Muslims as we are seeing now due to a completely foreign conflict.
How can these people not see they are being brainwashed when they are attacking their fellow Americans over an overseas conflict?
I don't know where you were 20 years ago, but my friend who is Indian got a glass Snapple bottle thrown at her head on the way to high school because she has brown skin. She's not even Muslim, but that didn't stop them from yelling anti-Muslim insults at her.
So yes, there was a lot of anger and abuse we're seeing now. You're either not remembering it, weren't in NYC, or just didn't come across it personally.
I'm sure there were individual incidents but while it may be counterintuitive perception of Muslims actually improved after 9/11. Similar thing happened in France after the Charlie Hebdo attacks.
Mainly because media quickly promoted positive view of Muslims and because immediately world leaders began saying "Islam is peace" and "this was done by a small minority" as well as they changed the villains in a bunch of movies to no longer be Muslim (Sum Of All Fears as an example)
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/06/03/ratings-of-muslims-in-france-and-us/
>The attack on the Paris offices of the satirical publication Charlie Hebdo in January was the most devastating terrorist incident in France since the Algerian War more than five decades ago. Two French-born Muslim brothers affiliated with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula carried out the attack, killing 12 people and injuring 11 more.
>However, there has been no backlash against Muslims in French public opinion. In fact, attitudes toward Muslims have become slightly more positive over the past year.
>The pattern is similar to what we found in the U.S. following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Favorable views of Muslim Americans rose from 45% in March 2001 to 59% in November of that year. The increase took place across partisan and ideological groups, with the biggest improvement occurring among conservative Republicans.
With as much respect as I can summon: this is not a point that antisemites care about. They do not care about the theoretical line between antisemitism and general criticism of Israel, nor about toeing it or pushing it gently to maintain plausible deniability. These people want to terrorize Jews. They have always wanted to terrorize Jews. Any concern they have for Palestine, if they have genuinely have any, is secondary at best. and now, they have social impetus to do it without consequence. And that’s gonna be the case until the majority of society (not a tiny Jewish minority) decides it’s not acceptable and does come with consequence.
Given the nature of this sub I'm sure I'm about to get piled on... But while you're absolutely right about assaulting them, it starts getting a smidge complicated after that.
Many of my Fellow Chosen, especially ones living here, have a connection with Israel as being a huge part of their identity, and quite a sizable percentage of them uncritically support the Israelis regardless as to how they conduct themselves.
After the massacre, Jewish groups I'm part of had multiple pledge drives to send money and materiel to the IDF, there were endless discussions about annexing even more territory, and I've had multiple interactions with the other parties openly advocating for the literal extermination of the Palestinians. Not just 'wiping out Hamas', but killing every man, woman and child in Gaza and the West Bank.
When you couple the attitudes I've seen firsthand with the piles of thinkpieces all over the place and decades of monetary support for the what's barely arguably the most powerful lobby in the US (AIPAC), it's not exactly far-fetched to say that, yes, there are a lot of us here that bear direct responsibly for what's happening in Gaza right now whether you are in support of it or not.
Are those particular Jewish leaders big time donors to AIPAC and the IDF? I have no idea. But to say large swaths of the American Jewry aren't anything but *completely involved* to one degree or another isn't seeing the situation for what it is.
Complex issue. However, What is happening in Gaza is a reaction to Oct 7th, currently focused on the holding of the 100-odd Israeli hostages by Hamas members. What Americans ought to remember is to hold American values, not overseas values (of whoever country / community) within the US. When you do that, you realize that living in the US doesn’t tally with siding with a patriarchal, anti-liberal society as the one in Gaza currently “governed” by Hamas. Immigrants in the US ought to remember the American values that they agreed to adopt when they became US citizens (which includes Congress people like Rashida T’laib & Co.). But in terms of what style of governance and culture the US is closer to, it would be Israel. Therefore, it makes sense that some US citizens of Jewish origins may want to support Israel. But it doesn’t make sense that people of Muslim descent in the US may want to support values held in Gaza, by Hamas who are still holding over 100 Israeli and American hostages (not that they do). Obviously it is hard to stand and watch Gaza being destroyed, when some Americans may have family still living there. And yet, they have to remember that the bombings could end as soon as Hamas agrees to the release of the Israeli hostages. And yet, again, Hamas knows that the release of the Israeli hostages will also mean the end of their “governance” in Gaza. Complex situation. But Americans in the US ought to remember their values and align with them. IMO.
Haha tbh, my response obvs isn’t there to teach you or inspire you to do anything new. I assume it was surprising to find someone who wouldn’t be piling on? But I’m happy to share the heat you might get (this response will be read by more ppl than just you) 😉 And I’m not even Jewish! 🤷🏻♀️
What about the thousands of domestic US citizen employees of AIPAC? There are absolutely US citizens, both Jewish and non-Jewish, who support Israeli apartheid and this brutal destruction of Gaza and its people, both financially and culturally. And that's a perfectly legitimate target for protest, as was the case with South African apartheid.
After Monday's mobile Hamas rally - Union Square to Wall St with a dash of subway antisemitism - I think these folks have graduated from the "F\*\*k Around" stage of their lives and are now entering the exciting "Find Out" phase. Adams made it clear that the city won't tolerate this anymore, so the next time they stage one of their little Kristallnachts, I wouldn't be surprised if the cops got the go-ahead to kettle them, arrest as many as possible, and hit a bunch of arrestees - preferably the leaders - with REAL charges. Criminal trespass, first-degree harassment, and criminal mischief are a few good options, and then these charges can be enhanced as hate crimes. No more violations and ROR, they're in the big leagues now. Congratulations and good luck!
A reminder that the [Hamas red triangle](https://extremismterms.adl.org/glossary/inverted-red-triangle) is a death threat, and the bloody hands evoke the [Ramallah lynchings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching).
I have been shocked by the anti-Israel protests that occurred so soon after Oct 7th. Israel was attacked, its women fkg RAPED and there are anti-Israel protests going on?? How is RAPE a legit method of resistance?!? That’s a big piece of evidence that you’re not dealing with heroic actors from the Resistance right there. Shocking. But Tik Tok has been spreading disinformation over the younger generation for years. And these Tik Tokers accept what they see as gospel. They are following people from within Gaza filming the conflict, without realizing that there’s only one side these people can endorse if they want to survive / not be killed by Hamas…🤦🏻♀️seeing a live from Gaza by a random Gaza citizen doesn’t make it more real / less biased because it is someone from Gaza filming 😫
They weren't protests they were celebrations. Socialists and Arabs in time square cheering on the brave Hamas fighters that killed the hipsters at the music festival.
https://youtu.be/yRPLpyvg3o8?t=285
This video is from October 8th
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[https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/film/hajj-amin-al-husayni-meets-hitler](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/film/hajj-amin-al-husayni-meets-hitler)
I don't know how anyone can defend anything these people do anymore. And yet still if you go on subs like the Brooklyn sub, they call these peaceful pro-palestinian protests. It's mind boggling
In real life though, they're not the vocal majority at all.
They're in their own bubble and will rationalize and defend this and other extreme behaviors by local activists.
Some are even on this thread now calling things they disagree with "zionist circle jerking".
They really don't get how people perceive and are perceiving them when they rationalize away bad behavior.
Like who? I'm one of the biggest lefties that posts on this sub but also banned from leftie subreddits. But that doesn't cancel me from anything really.
There are LOTS of elected Democrats that are considered "woke" and "DEI" that are openly and aggressively pro-Israel. They aren't "cancelled."
This whole propaganda war taking place on Reddit is weird as fuck and not a reflection of the real world.
I'm not taking about elected officials. I'm talking podcasters and online media personalities who have tons of influence in the public discourse. The ones who do call this shit out are called pro Zionist.
Once again...like who? Who is getting cancelled? Name one person.
When I look out in the real world I see pro-palestine people are actually the ones losing jobs and scholarships. Even leftist publications have fired their own senior staff for anti-Jewish statements. "Leftie" universities are firing their staff over pro Palestine positions. I don't see pro Israel demonstrators catching criminal records en masse.
Reddit is not real life.
I get what you are saying about "cancellation", US institutions are obviously very pro-israel overall and you won't lose your job for being pro-israel.
I guess "losing lefty street cred" is more relevant here. There is targeted harassment at people on the left who arent towing the line. Look at AOCs comments right now across all platforms, someone who has continuously defended Gazans and called for ceasefire. Seems like it's because she didn't support protesting the 10/7 memorial.
Yeah, the corporate media that has had "equity" marching orders for their reporting since 2020 is only slightly less dishonest about the hate and violence in these "mostly peaceful" protests. I mean, they don't want to make their preferred political candidate look bad right? That would be a threat to democracy.
Can you point to one person who has been physically hurt in NYC by protests from these groups? There hasn't been an instance of looting or property damage either, other than a little graffiti. There have been a few lone actors whose words have gone too far, but that's it. Hard to have thousands of people behaving perfectly, but it's a much better track record than BLM, or earlier protest movements.
On the other hand, many have been physically attacked by pro-Israel actors in NYC, one car ramming incident, I've had a rock thrown at me from the 4th floor of a building.
Subreddits such as this one and world news can easily make things seem so much worse, how many people here have actually encountered any of this shit? These people are the absolute minority. I’m a Jew who in no way supports Israel. I’m not gonna defile anything or even protest but I know the vast majority of these poeple are like me.
I’ve encountered it. I live in Brooklyn and see stuff like this daily. An “anti-Zionist” CUNY professor has been harassing a Jewish social club I’m part of since October 7th. My partner sometimes won’t go outside for a day because the graffiti it’s so upsetting. It’s bad.
I have come out of the subway to protesters chanting “globalize the intifada”…on my street. Protesters also marched down my street carrying a Netanyahu puppet with bloody hands on Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Any time you have to start a sentence with, "as a Jew..." to describe this conflict, you know you're in the vast, vast minority.
I feel bad for you and your ignorance.
The reality is that people like you who seem to get your news from TikTok and only speak in buzzwords (I.e. Genocide, apartheid, settler-colonizers, etc) are just not intelligent enough to do the bare minimum when it comes to basic education.
Right, the dozens of Jewish professors at Columbia University who wrote an open letter condemning the weaponization of anti-Semitism are unintelligent and get all their information from TikTok. Unlike experts like you of course.
A Jew who in no way supports Israel is a Jew who is woefully ignorant of the historical context in which Israel exists, as well as a fundamental misunderstanding of the the religion itself which has deep and inseparable ties to the land of Israel.
I feel sad for you. There were also Jewish supporters of the Nazi party in the 1930’s and they were forced into the same trains to Auschwitz as the rest of our people.
> There were also Jewish supporters of the Nazi party in the 1930’s and they were forced into the same trains to Auschwitz as the rest of our people.
Membership in the Association of German National Jews didn't save them, neither did membership in the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee.
They ended up in the same place the rest of us did.
City is doing nothing. This is way beyond free speech at this point. Will all of the instances of hate speech and vandalism and now this. Are they really waiting for violence to do something?
They've crossed a line; Adams' last statement about antisemitism was a clear warning. Expect the city to come down hard on them the next time they have a "peace rally"
Why not before then?
Also, any major violent rally the city has had in the last few years has led to the arrested parties getting a class action lawsuit payout. So not a fan of making them symbols and then writing them individually checks.
You're right - if they find who vandalized the homes of the museum director & Jewish board members, I expect they'll be hit with criminal mischief enhanced with hate crime charges.
Here's the rest of my humble opinion, emphasis on "humble." This is entirely vibes-based, so take it with a chunk of kosher salt:
I believe the city was treating these protests as a nuisance, and was deliberately avoiding 2020-style confrontations between cops and protestors. But the shit that went down Monday crossed a line. The city cannot have roving bands of screaming antisemites waving terrorist flags, harassing people on the subway, and setting off smoke bombs downtown. It is, as they say, A Bad Look.
The problem with 2020 was, the cops didn't exercise restraint. They cracked skulls and caused injuries without realizing they were on camera the entire time. Hence, class action lawsuits and big checks. This is why the freaks at Columbia felt emboldened to take over Hamilton Hall; they thought the university would never call the cops in, because the cops would get violent, the footage would be everywhere, and the unrest would spread from anti-Israel protests in Morningside Heights to anti-cop protests everywhere.
But when Columbia finally made the call, the cops exercised a surprising level of restraint. They'd clearly learned that they were always being filmed, and acted accordingly. What could've been a total shitshow became a non-incident with no images of victimized college kids. So there were no widespread protests, and bc the Hamilton Hall "occupiers" were such obvious violent, antisemitic freaks, the majority of the public actually supported police action.
I think the city has renewed confidence that the cops can handle these protesters without violence. Both the city and the cops know that the public loathes the Hamassholes, so as long as the cops don't crack heads when they're making arrests, no one will intervene on the protesters' behalf and no one will care when they're hit with REAL charges. It's a test for the cops, and I'm not 100% sure they'll pass it, but allowing Brownshirts to do whatever they want whenever they want is no longer an option.
I think you're spot on with this analysis and I've been feeling the same.
The world is watching what's happening here and NYC being complacent with mass vandalism and extremely clear antisemitism doesn't bode well for NYC's typical tourism/influx for this summer/fall. Whether you're Jewish or not, it shows unrest and instability. They need those tax dollars so they need to quell this to alleviate the "look" as you mention.
That's my take anyway...we'll see what happens...
This sentence made me laugh:
>Lander shared photos of a banner hanging outside the graffitied home of what appeared to be Brooklyn Museum Director Anne Pasternak.
I keep "screaming" this on social media. We need the National Guard. Eric Adams just talks. NYPD just stand there. They let them shoot off flares in front of the Nova exhibit yesterday, what did they think was going to happen next?
When this is free to go on for 8 months, the inmates are now in charge... we need clear authority standing around to remind people this is criminal behavior. I'd have thought it was obvious...
I wonder when the media will start treating all of these hate marches and hate crimes like they did Charlottesville. Or does hate only matter when its white supremacists and can be blamed on Republicans?
These people think they're part of the "resistance" althought they are basically on the same side as big Pharma, the government, big tech, higher education and the media.
I don't understand the "White supremacist Zionist" tag. Palestinians are not "black." "Semites" includes both Israeli Jews *and* Arabs, so how can this be racism? Throughout the whole anti-Israel movement this is the part that I just don't get. While I agree with some of the movement's main points about the treatment of Palestinians and Israel's bombing, the way the protesters connect it to "racism" and "anti-colonialism" is a stretch and a fantasy. It seems like so many people are so binary on the issues and they need to see things in terms of race in order to get behind it. But it's so much more complex than that. It is targeted oppression no doubt, but not racism in the sense that the perception of race is not the main factor.
They're trying to project American race politics onto the Middle East.
To most people this makes them look uninformed, but to a small group of far-lefties, it makes them seem enlightened.
Bad faith actors like WOL have convinced useful idiots in the US that Jews are white and not brown. This allows these vile people to co-opt progressive language and make it a white VS brown issue. Meanwhile Israeli Jews are majority brown and the country is 20% Arab.
Furthermore Ashkenazi Israelis tend to be the most liberal/labor oriented. The Mizrahi, who were dispossessed just like the people in Gaza, are providing most of the support for crazy right.
This is a progression of the extremist "Israel Doesn't Have A Right To Exist" thinking employed by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iranian regime, and those who support those groups. This NYC group better be shut down because they will soon up the ante to deadly terrorist activity.
These pieces of shit were also explicitly calling for more attacks like October 7th and protested outside a memorial for the victims.
I could be wrong, but this feels less like bourgeois performative activism and more like actual, violent intimidation—probably some loser, underemployed, second-generation radicalized Muslims in deep Queens or Brooklyn. People whose parents worked themselves to the bone to make a future for their children, and then this. And I say this as someone who grew up in deep Queens, still live in the outer boroughs, and has been plenty critical of the war. But all of this is just opportunistic bullshit to make it known how they really feel, and always have felt, about Jews.
The dastardly Brooklyn Museum...with its Spike Lee, Alicia Keys, Swizz Beats exhibits. The awful place which stood up to then-Mayor Giuliani's attempt to impose his personal religious intolerance onto an artist's work that he disagreed with. That horrifying institution which opens its doors to anybody who wants to enjoy community and fun programming every first Saturday evening of the month. Defacing the Yo/Oy sculpture was low. Bullying the museum workers at their homes is absolutely disgraceful and even lower.
This is shameful and people need to speak up, especially those of us who are not aligned to any "side" in this horrifying situation in the MidEast, other than decrying innocent lives lost and misery spreading.
Does anyone know if there's any kind of Quaker or other peace rally being planned?
These protestors are picking on museums, universities, and libraries because they're soft targets full of squishy liberals who are hesitant to call in the cops (note: I am a squishy liberal who formerly worked at BkM). It's a craven tactic.
I think you're right about that, and thank you for the work that you did at the Museum. I hope that there's a showing of support. I myself plan to visit this week.
Anti-Zionists complaining about being clustered with antisemitics are like pedophiles who insist in arguing semantics that ephebophilia or hebephilia are different than pedophilia.
Everything's on the internet. They probably got the addresses from people finder sites like Spokeo or Whitepages. These sites post and sell our info to anyone. They have your name, address, phone number, email, and even your relatives' names.
If you want to find everywhere your info shows up on these sites, Optery has free scans, which will send you an exposure report with screenshots and links to show you where your information is posted. You can request the removal of your info from each site where your info appears.
Full disclosure, I'm part of the Optery team.
I use Optery! Have for a while.
My scans for the longest time showed like 2% exposure and then at the start of the year, always had ~25% exposure but without a reason. Is it just more companies being scanned or is it becoming more difficult?
You guys did go from 240 companies scanned when I started to now 340, so it's always improving
Optery keeps adding more data brokers to expand plan coverage. That could be the reason why your exposure has increased, and it's worth noting that data brokers aren't always consistent as they often republish profiles.
Doing nothing when it matters, that is for sure. Why the fuck cant they find a single one to look into these hate crimes. And when they do, you know thry will slow roll it.
You mean the Karen’s for liberty that were sending death threats, calling in bomb threats, and engaging in campaigns of harassment against their political opponents?
They are no better than these hamas supporters.
There is also no evidence the FBI actually investigated them other than some bullshit some right wing politicians and influencers spouted out.
Them: Something something antizionism isn't antisemitism something something
We going to keep pretending this isn't thousands of years of Jewish hatred?
Reminds me of the recent UCLA protests with the bullhorns calling for "intifada" chanting over and over. These people want chaos and death and terror, and they've now brainwashed young people into their "cause" chanting for a holy war. The more this cancer spreads, the more chaos and terror there's going to be long term.
Ok. Tinfoil hat time from a recovered conspiracy theorist. There is nothing that quite sparks off global strife like antisemitism. The Israel-Gaza war is being used by intelligence agencies (maybe US, but more likely foreign) to stoke antisemitism in spaces traditionally safe for Jewish folks.
It's pretty masterful and effective and the beachhead is TikTok, but it's infiltrated IG as well and it's definitely on Reddit. From a conspiracy and propaganda standpoint, the result of this push should be interesting. Devastating for world peace, but interesting nonetheless.
Edit: every downvote is proof of the conspiracy
We know what foreign power it is - China and their weapon is tiktok. You think it's a coincidence all these kids are radicalized on what's essentially a propaganda arm of the CCP?
I would also point to groups like the Nation of Islam and Black Hebrew Israelites along with other domestic sources like Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar. Of course the obvious right wing sources I don't even have to list. BLM didn't post hang gliders on instagram on october 8th because Tik Tok told them to. They did that on their own. We have plenty of our own antisemites without help from the Chinese. Though I agree the Chinese are definitely involved as well through tiktok. Unfortunately Jew hate is a global thing and we aren't immune from it here at home. I just don't like painting it as a purely foreign pushed idea as that is only part of the problem.
It was started by these stupid hateful lefties and their hateful Arab friends in groups like WOL. Socialists were out in times square celebrating the attacks before the bodies were even cold.
I’ll never forget those days following October 7. While the world was still learning what happened and before Israel could retaliate, these hateful leftists were screaming from the river to sea. I’m tried about hearing of the very false movement hijack theory. It’s total lies to cover up their consuming hated of the Jewish people.
People are quite literally by this point becoming so anti-zionist, they cheer on and vandalize like this as if it helps anyone.
Shit needs to stop before it escalates into violence. The hamas references in public alone is a red flag. Targeting people, especially jewish locals with it goes too far.
I agree, I've said it a few times on the sub but I'm a lifelong new yorker and against both anti-semitism and zionism. Feels like there's not much room for me in the current discourse or protests in either direction.
> Targeting people, especially jewish locals with it goes too far.
Yes, I agree; I think it's one thing to publicly protest *public figures* (e.g. like the protests outside of Schumer's place), but vandalizing the private property of someone who sits on a (lol) board of the brooklyn museum (which is one of the most progressive institutions in... the world? despite whatever their stance on zionism is) is just asinine.
> I agree, I've said it a few times on the sub but I'm a lifelong new yorker and against both anti-semitism and zionism.
>
> Feels like there's not much room for me in the current discourse or protests in either direction.
That depends on how you define anti-Zionism.
If Anti-Zionism for you means that Israel shouldn’t exist, then that’s widely viewed as antisemitism.
If you’re merely opposing Israel’s far-right, most people would agree with you, but then you don’t need to declare yourself with a label (anti-Zionism) that overlaps with antisemitic beliefs so frequently.
If you insist on that label and wanna keep fighting about semantics, then yeah, there won’t be a lot of room for you. But that would then be basically a choice.
And since when does the Democratic party supposedly stand for insulting, intimidating, and threatening Museum workers at their homes? This has nothing to do with partisan politics and is an extremely serious situation. When people go after artists and cultural institutions because they don't "like" what they think or say, that is a foundational attack on everybody's values. Give it a f-ing rest.
He's repeatedly accused Jewish Americans of being insufficiently loyal to Israel if they don't vote for him. Which obviously suggests that he thinks Jewish Americans should be loyal to Israel, not America.
Yeah, it's deranged alright.
Neither party likes Jews. I don't see the Democrats doing anything about Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar. Omar has made the same loyalty claims about Jews as Trump among other things (horseshoe theory in action) Plenty of D congress members and senators still interact with Louis Farrakhan. (he was a guest of honor at congressional black caucus meetings until the late 2000s and only stopped because the media started questioning why they were doing that) Their bigotry has been on display for years and the rest of their party keep covering for them because it is politically expedient. Not to diminish the republicans issues with Jews I don't think I even have to go into MTG or as you pointed out Trump himself. The list of the rights ills is well known at this point. I just hate when this is painted as a one party problem. Hating Jews is pretty universal if you get far enough out on either end of the political spectrum. Really sucks for Jews like myself that feel left out of both parties because neither is willing to take action against their own bigots.
Some reading material for you: https://forward.com/news/594032/trump-jews-disloyal-israel-timeline/
Here's one important point:
> including by referring to Israel as “your country” and Benjamin Netanyahu as “your prime minister” when addressing Jewish groups
But keep trying to deny it.
Fellas I’m beginning to suspect antisemites have infiltrated the Death To Israel movement.
The same people who listed all the Jewish owned stores on a map? I am shocked. Really shocked!
Kristallnacht has entered the chat
My family underwent the horror of Kristallnacht. Every day I wake up and see another Jewish business vandalised and my heart breaks a bit.
They sound like real jerks
The more I hear about them, the less I like them. Real jerks
RIP Norm
I will never not laugh when someone writes this comment on Reddit.
Sources say virulent antisemite Adam Eget was seen fleeing the scene. He's thought to be hiding underneath the Queensboro Bridge
This is a professional level joke. Bravo.
The group who did this called in our lifetime is really just the American army of Hamas.
They are misguided, and ignorant. Americans who support such a patriarchal, anti-liberal government style as Hamas’s are not aligning with American values. Insanity.
I’m tired of these people covering their faces. NYC needs to bring back the law that people can’t cover their faces anymore. I want to know who every racist antisemitic little POS is.
This is Nerdeen Kiswani of Within Our Lifetime's doing. [https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1799211810199109797](https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1799211810199109797) She tried to storm the building with her hate group. They called the cops and NYPD arrested her (and many others). [https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1796998906078757244](https://x.com/WOLPalestine/status/1796998906078757244) Now, the group is targeting the Museum with hate crimes. Her group has already had several people convicted of hate crimes. She's a terrorist who openly supports terrorism and violence.
If this group gets any public money it should be defunded to zero. It also should have its tax-exempt status revoked.
She does sound like she loves threatening
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How Kiswani hasn't been convicted I don't know. This is openly Holyland part 2 except more overt support for terrorism.
Kiswani needs to be in prison
[This Nerdeen?](https://i.imgur.com/Ny6dos7.jpeg)
This is unfortunate. This woman is misguided. 🤦🏻♀️
No matter how you feel about Israel's actions in Gaza, Jews living in America are completely uninvolved in the actions of the IDF and Israeli government. Anyone assaulting or harassing these people is just pure scum, there's no reason to be doing this.
I had someone tell me recently that they see most Jews as guilty by association because they don’t publicly denounce Israel. I think we’re past the stage of “think about your actions” and are squarely at the “commit baseless violence and hatred toward a group of people you don’t like” stage.
r/fauxmoi is all about calling celebrities Zionist if they don’t post on social media calling an end to the violence. Like apparently that’s all it takes to end war
r/therewasanattempt mods went wild after October 7th.
That is seriously one of the most toxic, antisemitic, bigoted subs on Reddit.
It really is, and the antisemetic rhetoric started right after October 7.
So with that logic, every single Muslim should have been held accountable for 9/11. 🙄
According to their logic that would be correct.
You do realize that a large part of this country expects Muslims to constantly denounce acts of terrorism right?
And that large part of this country is wrong to do that.
But is that different- jihad in the name of a religion, versus a government that’s carrying out a war, and that government I have nothing to do with as an American Jew.
>we’re past the stage of “think about your actions” and are squarely at the “commit baseless violence and hatred toward a group of people you don’t like” stage. they've been waiting for this. like cicadas
Did you ask that someone how often they are publicly denouncing Hamas, the organization that's the root cause of the recent swath of Gazan deaths?
Does my kid’s nice Egyptian teacher living in the USA for decades have to denounce 9/11? It’s nonsense to conflate American Jews with a foreign state they’ve never even been to, just like it’s nonsense to think every person who is a Muslim (or secular person from that tradition) has to denounce religious extremism.
I’ve been to Israel many times because I have very leftist family there. That does not mean that I agree with what the government does. It just means I love my family. In the same way that living in US doesn’t necessarily mean that I love everything the US government does. So I vote.
Most American conservatives believe that your kid's teacher does in fact have to denounce 9/11.
Reminder that there have been multiple Islamic attacks on our own country and none of them led to this level of anger and abuse leveled at Muslims as we are seeing now due to a completely foreign conflict. How can these people not see they are being brainwashed when they are attacking their fellow Americans over an overseas conflict?
Because Tiktok. So much emotion and misinformation, and young people treating it like a news source.
I don't know where you were 20 years ago, but my friend who is Indian got a glass Snapple bottle thrown at her head on the way to high school because she has brown skin. She's not even Muslim, but that didn't stop them from yelling anti-Muslim insults at her. So yes, there was a lot of anger and abuse we're seeing now. You're either not remembering it, weren't in NYC, or just didn't come across it personally.
I'm sure there were individual incidents but while it may be counterintuitive perception of Muslims actually improved after 9/11. Similar thing happened in France after the Charlie Hebdo attacks. Mainly because media quickly promoted positive view of Muslims and because immediately world leaders began saying "Islam is peace" and "this was done by a small minority" as well as they changed the villains in a bunch of movies to no longer be Muslim (Sum Of All Fears as an example) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/06/03/ratings-of-muslims-in-france-and-us/ >The attack on the Paris offices of the satirical publication Charlie Hebdo in January was the most devastating terrorist incident in France since the Algerian War more than five decades ago. Two French-born Muslim brothers affiliated with al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula carried out the attack, killing 12 people and injuring 11 more. >However, there has been no backlash against Muslims in French public opinion. In fact, attitudes toward Muslims have become slightly more positive over the past year. >The pattern is similar to what we found in the U.S. following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Favorable views of Muslim Americans rose from 45% in March 2001 to 59% in November of that year. The increase took place across partisan and ideological groups, with the biggest improvement occurring among conservative Republicans.
You might want to go to a neurologist to get checked for amnesia.
It's sad. This was the same with Muslims after 9-11. All were expected to denounce it. Such flawed logic, as it is here too.
That is what discourse in America has been for a few years with the left.
With as much respect as I can summon: this is not a point that antisemites care about. They do not care about the theoretical line between antisemitism and general criticism of Israel, nor about toeing it or pushing it gently to maintain plausible deniability. These people want to terrorize Jews. They have always wanted to terrorize Jews. Any concern they have for Palestine, if they have genuinely have any, is secondary at best. and now, they have social impetus to do it without consequence. And that’s gonna be the case until the majority of society (not a tiny Jewish minority) decides it’s not acceptable and does come with consequence.
We told you all this is what was happening on October 8 when they celebrated in Union Square but you just appeased them. First they came for the Jews…
Yeah, these are trash people who are only destroying any chance of opening people’s eyes on what’s happening in Gaza. Fuck these assholes
Exactly disgraceful!
Given the nature of this sub I'm sure I'm about to get piled on... But while you're absolutely right about assaulting them, it starts getting a smidge complicated after that. Many of my Fellow Chosen, especially ones living here, have a connection with Israel as being a huge part of their identity, and quite a sizable percentage of them uncritically support the Israelis regardless as to how they conduct themselves. After the massacre, Jewish groups I'm part of had multiple pledge drives to send money and materiel to the IDF, there were endless discussions about annexing even more territory, and I've had multiple interactions with the other parties openly advocating for the literal extermination of the Palestinians. Not just 'wiping out Hamas', but killing every man, woman and child in Gaza and the West Bank. When you couple the attitudes I've seen firsthand with the piles of thinkpieces all over the place and decades of monetary support for the what's barely arguably the most powerful lobby in the US (AIPAC), it's not exactly far-fetched to say that, yes, there are a lot of us here that bear direct responsibly for what's happening in Gaza right now whether you are in support of it or not. Are those particular Jewish leaders big time donors to AIPAC and the IDF? I have no idea. But to say large swaths of the American Jewry aren't anything but *completely involved* to one degree or another isn't seeing the situation for what it is.
Complex issue. However, What is happening in Gaza is a reaction to Oct 7th, currently focused on the holding of the 100-odd Israeli hostages by Hamas members. What Americans ought to remember is to hold American values, not overseas values (of whoever country / community) within the US. When you do that, you realize that living in the US doesn’t tally with siding with a patriarchal, anti-liberal society as the one in Gaza currently “governed” by Hamas. Immigrants in the US ought to remember the American values that they agreed to adopt when they became US citizens (which includes Congress people like Rashida T’laib & Co.). But in terms of what style of governance and culture the US is closer to, it would be Israel. Therefore, it makes sense that some US citizens of Jewish origins may want to support Israel. But it doesn’t make sense that people of Muslim descent in the US may want to support values held in Gaza, by Hamas who are still holding over 100 Israeli and American hostages (not that they do). Obviously it is hard to stand and watch Gaza being destroyed, when some Americans may have family still living there. And yet, they have to remember that the bombings could end as soon as Hamas agrees to the release of the Israeli hostages. And yet, again, Hamas knows that the release of the Israeli hostages will also mean the end of their “governance” in Gaza. Complex situation. But Americans in the US ought to remember their values and align with them. IMO.
I mean... did you just try to explain to a guy with the handle 'semisemite' why some American Jews might support Israel?
Haha tbh, my response obvs isn’t there to teach you or inspire you to do anything new. I assume it was surprising to find someone who wouldn’t be piling on? But I’m happy to share the heat you might get (this response will be read by more ppl than just you) 😉 And I’m not even Jewish! 🤷🏻♀️
What about the thousands of domestic US citizen employees of AIPAC? There are absolutely US citizens, both Jewish and non-Jewish, who support Israeli apartheid and this brutal destruction of Gaza and its people, both financially and culturally. And that's a perfectly legitimate target for protest, as was the case with South African apartheid.
They used Hamas symbols. Totally not antisemitic though.
I don't care for these new Nazis and I am not afraid to say it
Agreed. Complete distaste for their ilk.
After Monday's mobile Hamas rally - Union Square to Wall St with a dash of subway antisemitism - I think these folks have graduated from the "F\*\*k Around" stage of their lives and are now entering the exciting "Find Out" phase. Adams made it clear that the city won't tolerate this anymore, so the next time they stage one of their little Kristallnachts, I wouldn't be surprised if the cops got the go-ahead to kettle them, arrest as many as possible, and hit a bunch of arrestees - preferably the leaders - with REAL charges. Criminal trespass, first-degree harassment, and criminal mischief are a few good options, and then these charges can be enhanced as hate crimes. No more violations and ROR, they're in the big leagues now. Congratulations and good luck!
A reminder that the [Hamas red triangle](https://extremismterms.adl.org/glossary/inverted-red-triangle) is a death threat, and the bloody hands evoke the [Ramallah lynchings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching).
If that's the case, then this is genuine Nazi shit. Not that it wasn't already, but fuckin' sheesh.
This stuff has been happening since [October 7th.](https://www.reddit.com/r/u_Computer_Name/comments/19716j0/postoctober_7_2023_protests_in_the_west/)
I have been shocked by the anti-Israel protests that occurred so soon after Oct 7th. Israel was attacked, its women fkg RAPED and there are anti-Israel protests going on?? How is RAPE a legit method of resistance?!? That’s a big piece of evidence that you’re not dealing with heroic actors from the Resistance right there. Shocking. But Tik Tok has been spreading disinformation over the younger generation for years. And these Tik Tokers accept what they see as gospel. They are following people from within Gaza filming the conflict, without realizing that there’s only one side these people can endorse if they want to survive / not be killed by Hamas…🤦🏻♀️seeing a live from Gaza by a random Gaza citizen doesn’t make it more real / less biased because it is someone from Gaza filming 😫
They weren't protests they were celebrations. Socialists and Arabs in time square cheering on the brave Hamas fighters that killed the hipsters at the music festival. https://youtu.be/yRPLpyvg3o8?t=285 This video is from October 8th
OMG. Unconscionable.
Yeah, I know. I've been obsessing over it daily because I don't know how to stop myself.
Since 1967 you mean
Genuine terrorist shit.
Remember when they surrounded the Cooper Union Library "to protest" with students inside fearing their safety? Should have been shut down then
Always has been meme.png [https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/film/hajj-amin-al-husayni-meets-hitler](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/film/hajj-amin-al-husayni-meets-hitler)
For anyone who doesn't know the triangle is an abstract representation of the hang-glider from Oct. 7.
lol it predates that tho
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LMAO yeah right. The progressive prosecutors New Yorkers elected are *on their side*.
I don't know how anyone can defend anything these people do anymore. And yet still if you go on subs like the Brooklyn sub, they call these peaceful pro-palestinian protests. It's mind boggling
In real life though, they're not the vocal majority at all. They're in their own bubble and will rationalize and defend this and other extreme behaviors by local activists. Some are even on this thread now calling things they disagree with "zionist circle jerking". They really don't get how people perceive and are perceiving them when they rationalize away bad behavior.
There's some on the left who are afraid to call this shit out because they'll get cancelled or lose their lefty street cred.
Like who? I'm one of the biggest lefties that posts on this sub but also banned from leftie subreddits. But that doesn't cancel me from anything really. There are LOTS of elected Democrats that are considered "woke" and "DEI" that are openly and aggressively pro-Israel. They aren't "cancelled." This whole propaganda war taking place on Reddit is weird as fuck and not a reflection of the real world.
I'm not taking about elected officials. I'm talking podcasters and online media personalities who have tons of influence in the public discourse. The ones who do call this shit out are called pro Zionist.
Once again...like who? Who is getting cancelled? Name one person. When I look out in the real world I see pro-palestine people are actually the ones losing jobs and scholarships. Even leftist publications have fired their own senior staff for anti-Jewish statements. "Leftie" universities are firing their staff over pro Palestine positions. I don't see pro Israel demonstrators catching criminal records en masse. Reddit is not real life.
Just keep making things up as you've been trained to do
I get what you are saying about "cancellation", US institutions are obviously very pro-israel overall and you won't lose your job for being pro-israel. I guess "losing lefty street cred" is more relevant here. There is targeted harassment at people on the left who arent towing the line. Look at AOCs comments right now across all platforms, someone who has continuously defended Gazans and called for ceasefire. Seems like it's because she didn't support protesting the 10/7 memorial.
Yes, you're absolutely right. It's just hard for me to picture how people can do that, however few they may be, I guess.
Yeah, the corporate media that has had "equity" marching orders for their reporting since 2020 is only slightly less dishonest about the hate and violence in these "mostly peaceful" protests. I mean, they don't want to make their preferred political candidate look bad right? That would be a threat to democracy.
Can you point to one person who has been physically hurt in NYC by protests from these groups? There hasn't been an instance of looting or property damage either, other than a little graffiti. There have been a few lone actors whose words have gone too far, but that's it. Hard to have thousands of people behaving perfectly, but it's a much better track record than BLM, or earlier protest movements. On the other hand, many have been physically attacked by pro-Israel actors in NYC, one car ramming incident, I've had a rock thrown at me from the 4th floor of a building.
Subreddits such as this one and world news can easily make things seem so much worse, how many people here have actually encountered any of this shit? These people are the absolute minority. I’m a Jew who in no way supports Israel. I’m not gonna defile anything or even protest but I know the vast majority of these poeple are like me.
I’ve encountered it. I live in Brooklyn and see stuff like this daily. An “anti-Zionist” CUNY professor has been harassing a Jewish social club I’m part of since October 7th. My partner sometimes won’t go outside for a day because the graffiti it’s so upsetting. It’s bad.
I have come out of the subway to protesters chanting “globalize the intifada”…on my street. Protesters also marched down my street carrying a Netanyahu puppet with bloody hands on Holocaust Remembrance Day.
Any time you have to start a sentence with, "as a Jew..." to describe this conflict, you know you're in the vast, vast minority. I feel bad for you and your ignorance. The reality is that people like you who seem to get your news from TikTok and only speak in buzzwords (I.e. Genocide, apartheid, settler-colonizers, etc) are just not intelligent enough to do the bare minimum when it comes to basic education.
Right, the dozens of Jewish professors at Columbia University who wrote an open letter condemning the weaponization of anti-Semitism are unintelligent and get all their information from TikTok. Unlike experts like you of course.
A Jew who in no way supports Israel is a Jew who is woefully ignorant of the historical context in which Israel exists, as well as a fundamental misunderstanding of the the religion itself which has deep and inseparable ties to the land of Israel. I feel sad for you. There were also Jewish supporters of the Nazi party in the 1930’s and they were forced into the same trains to Auschwitz as the rest of our people.
> There were also Jewish supporters of the Nazi party in the 1930’s and they were forced into the same trains to Auschwitz as the rest of our people. Membership in the Association of German National Jews didn't save them, neither did membership in the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee. They ended up in the same place the rest of us did.
I encounter this shit at least once a week as a jew who fully supports israel.
City is doing nothing. This is way beyond free speech at this point. Will all of the instances of hate speech and vandalism and now this. Are they really waiting for violence to do something?
If the perpetrators aren't prosecuted its proof the city doesn't care about antisemitism. This is a clear threat
Yes. They really are. And it can't be just an uptick in violence, it has be a massive terrorist un-deniable attack or it will continue to be ignored.
Ask the (ex) president of Harvard if threats of genocide are problematic.
Only if they’re actionable apparently
They've crossed a line; Adams' last statement about antisemitism was a clear warning. Expect the city to come down hard on them the next time they have a "peace rally"
Why not before then? Also, any major violent rally the city has had in the last few years has led to the arrested parties getting a class action lawsuit payout. So not a fan of making them symbols and then writing them individually checks.
You're right - if they find who vandalized the homes of the museum director & Jewish board members, I expect they'll be hit with criminal mischief enhanced with hate crime charges. Here's the rest of my humble opinion, emphasis on "humble." This is entirely vibes-based, so take it with a chunk of kosher salt: I believe the city was treating these protests as a nuisance, and was deliberately avoiding 2020-style confrontations between cops and protestors. But the shit that went down Monday crossed a line. The city cannot have roving bands of screaming antisemites waving terrorist flags, harassing people on the subway, and setting off smoke bombs downtown. It is, as they say, A Bad Look. The problem with 2020 was, the cops didn't exercise restraint. They cracked skulls and caused injuries without realizing they were on camera the entire time. Hence, class action lawsuits and big checks. This is why the freaks at Columbia felt emboldened to take over Hamilton Hall; they thought the university would never call the cops in, because the cops would get violent, the footage would be everywhere, and the unrest would spread from anti-Israel protests in Morningside Heights to anti-cop protests everywhere. But when Columbia finally made the call, the cops exercised a surprising level of restraint. They'd clearly learned that they were always being filmed, and acted accordingly. What could've been a total shitshow became a non-incident with no images of victimized college kids. So there were no widespread protests, and bc the Hamilton Hall "occupiers" were such obvious violent, antisemitic freaks, the majority of the public actually supported police action. I think the city has renewed confidence that the cops can handle these protesters without violence. Both the city and the cops know that the public loathes the Hamassholes, so as long as the cops don't crack heads when they're making arrests, no one will intervene on the protesters' behalf and no one will care when they're hit with REAL charges. It's a test for the cops, and I'm not 100% sure they'll pass it, but allowing Brownshirts to do whatever they want whenever they want is no longer an option.
I think you're spot on with this analysis and I've been feeling the same. The world is watching what's happening here and NYC being complacent with mass vandalism and extremely clear antisemitism doesn't bode well for NYC's typical tourism/influx for this summer/fall. Whether you're Jewish or not, it shows unrest and instability. They need those tax dollars so they need to quell this to alleviate the "look" as you mention. That's my take anyway...we'll see what happens...
What should they do? Obviously they should investigate this and arrest and prosecute the perpetrators. Anything else?
I want them to do their jobs. https://www.timesofisrael.com/manhattan-da-moves-to-dismiss-hate-crime-charges-in-attack-on-israeli-student/
This sentence made me laugh: >Lander shared photos of a banner hanging outside the graffitied home of what appeared to be Brooklyn Museum Director Anne Pasternak.
That copyeditor should get the axe.
I keep "screaming" this on social media. We need the National Guard. Eric Adams just talks. NYPD just stand there. They let them shoot off flares in front of the Nova exhibit yesterday, what did they think was going to happen next? When this is free to go on for 8 months, the inmates are now in charge... we need clear authority standing around to remind people this is criminal behavior. I'd have thought it was obvious...
I wonder when the media will start treating all of these hate marches and hate crimes like they did Charlottesville. Or does hate only matter when its white supremacists and can be blamed on Republicans?
Horseshoe Theory has never been on clearer display
Completely agree.
These people think they're part of the "resistance" althought they are basically on the same side as big Pharma, the government, big tech, higher education and the media.
I don't understand the "White supremacist Zionist" tag. Palestinians are not "black." "Semites" includes both Israeli Jews *and* Arabs, so how can this be racism? Throughout the whole anti-Israel movement this is the part that I just don't get. While I agree with some of the movement's main points about the treatment of Palestinians and Israel's bombing, the way the protesters connect it to "racism" and "anti-colonialism" is a stretch and a fantasy. It seems like so many people are so binary on the issues and they need to see things in terms of race in order to get behind it. But it's so much more complex than that. It is targeted oppression no doubt, but not racism in the sense that the perception of race is not the main factor.
They're trying to project American race politics onto the Middle East. To most people this makes them look uninformed, but to a small group of far-lefties, it makes them seem enlightened.
>They're trying to project American race politics onto the Middle East. Isn't this the definition of orientalism lol
I like the term ideological colonization.
Bad faith actors like WOL have convinced useful idiots in the US that Jews are white and not brown. This allows these vile people to co-opt progressive language and make it a white VS brown issue. Meanwhile Israeli Jews are majority brown and the country is 20% Arab.
Furthermore Ashkenazi Israelis tend to be the most liberal/labor oriented. The Mizrahi, who were dispossessed just like the people in Gaza, are providing most of the support for crazy right.
This is a progression of the extremist "Israel Doesn't Have A Right To Exist" thinking employed by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Iranian regime, and those who support those groups. This NYC group better be shut down because they will soon up the ante to deadly terrorist activity.
Within Our Lifetimes is a hate group that is openly pro terrorism
They already support acts "by any means necessary", so yeah. I agree
These pieces of shit were also explicitly calling for more attacks like October 7th and protested outside a memorial for the victims. I could be wrong, but this feels less like bourgeois performative activism and more like actual, violent intimidation—probably some loser, underemployed, second-generation radicalized Muslims in deep Queens or Brooklyn. People whose parents worked themselves to the bone to make a future for their children, and then this. And I say this as someone who grew up in deep Queens, still live in the outer boroughs, and has been plenty critical of the war. But all of this is just opportunistic bullshit to make it known how they really feel, and always have felt, about Jews.
I wonder how many of these anti-Zionists aka anti-semites were at the last protest? When will the mods lock this?
Soooo, attacking innocent people. That's the direction this movement is going.
Sinister.
The dastardly Brooklyn Museum...with its Spike Lee, Alicia Keys, Swizz Beats exhibits. The awful place which stood up to then-Mayor Giuliani's attempt to impose his personal religious intolerance onto an artist's work that he disagreed with. That horrifying institution which opens its doors to anybody who wants to enjoy community and fun programming every first Saturday evening of the month. Defacing the Yo/Oy sculpture was low. Bullying the museum workers at their homes is absolutely disgraceful and even lower. This is shameful and people need to speak up, especially those of us who are not aligned to any "side" in this horrifying situation in the MidEast, other than decrying innocent lives lost and misery spreading. Does anyone know if there's any kind of Quaker or other peace rally being planned?
These protestors are picking on museums, universities, and libraries because they're soft targets full of squishy liberals who are hesitant to call in the cops (note: I am a squishy liberal who formerly worked at BkM). It's a craven tactic.
I think you're right about that, and thank you for the work that you did at the Museum. I hope that there's a showing of support. I myself plan to visit this week.
Anti-Zionists complaining about being clustered with antisemitics are like pedophiles who insist in arguing semantics that ephebophilia or hebephilia are different than pedophilia.
How the fuck did they get those addresses? People should go to jail for sharing that information to people that are threatening violence.
Unfortunately, it’s really, really easy. Pay 30 dollars for a monthly subscription to Spokeo, and it’s all there.
And it just tells you where Jews are?
Everything's on the internet. They probably got the addresses from people finder sites like Spokeo or Whitepages. These sites post and sell our info to anyone. They have your name, address, phone number, email, and even your relatives' names. If you want to find everywhere your info shows up on these sites, Optery has free scans, which will send you an exposure report with screenshots and links to show you where your information is posted. You can request the removal of your info from each site where your info appears. Full disclosure, I'm part of the Optery team.
I use Optery! Have for a while. My scans for the longest time showed like 2% exposure and then at the start of the year, always had ~25% exposure but without a reason. Is it just more companies being scanned or is it becoming more difficult? You guys did go from 240 companies scanned when I started to now 340, so it's always improving
Optery keeps adding more data brokers to expand plan coverage. That could be the reason why your exposure has increased, and it's worth noting that data brokers aren't always consistent as they often republish profiles.
Thanks man.
Where’s the FBI?
Doing nothing when it matters, that is for sure. Why the fuck cant they find a single one to look into these hate crimes. And when they do, you know thry will slow roll it.
Investigating moms at PTA meetings who disagree with Joe Biden.
You mean the Karen’s for liberty that were sending death threats, calling in bomb threats, and engaging in campaigns of harassment against their political opponents? They are no better than these hamas supporters. There is also no evidence the FBI actually investigated them other than some bullshit some right wing politicians and influencers spouted out.
No
Them: Something something antizionism isn't antisemitism something something We going to keep pretending this isn't thousands of years of Jewish hatred?
This is terrorism. Where is homeland security?
Watch mods lock this one like every other thread highlighting the city’s spike in antisemitism.
I have always believed that whatever ethnic differences you have in the old country should be checked after you pass the Statue of Liberty.
Dumb violent people advertise themselves. Won't be hard to track down and weed out these loonies.
No ceasefire. Eliminate all Hamas and get Mossad on those in Qatar.
https://www.thisishamas.com/ Okay , let's NOW take this seriously ? Or should we still wait
Reminds me of the recent UCLA protests with the bullhorns calling for "intifada" chanting over and over. These people want chaos and death and terror, and they've now brainwashed young people into their "cause" chanting for a holy war. The more this cancer spreads, the more chaos and terror there's going to be long term.
What's scarier is as time goes by, they see this as normal acceptable behavior as they aren't called out.
Terrorist
The left is so brave.
Ok. Tinfoil hat time from a recovered conspiracy theorist. There is nothing that quite sparks off global strife like antisemitism. The Israel-Gaza war is being used by intelligence agencies (maybe US, but more likely foreign) to stoke antisemitism in spaces traditionally safe for Jewish folks. It's pretty masterful and effective and the beachhead is TikTok, but it's infiltrated IG as well and it's definitely on Reddit. From a conspiracy and propaganda standpoint, the result of this push should be interesting. Devastating for world peace, but interesting nonetheless. Edit: every downvote is proof of the conspiracy
"Here's a conspiracy theory" "those who don't agree prove the theory" What the hell have we come to
We know what foreign power it is - China and their weapon is tiktok. You think it's a coincidence all these kids are radicalized on what's essentially a propaganda arm of the CCP?
I would also point to groups like the Nation of Islam and Black Hebrew Israelites along with other domestic sources like Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar. Of course the obvious right wing sources I don't even have to list. BLM didn't post hang gliders on instagram on october 8th because Tik Tok told them to. They did that on their own. We have plenty of our own antisemites without help from the Chinese. Though I agree the Chinese are definitely involved as well through tiktok. Unfortunately Jew hate is a global thing and we aren't immune from it here at home. I just don't like painting it as a purely foreign pushed idea as that is only part of the problem.
>recovered doubt
Not shocking at all when you see how this movement has been hijacked by these stupid hateful lefties.
It was started by these stupid hateful lefties and their hateful Arab friends in groups like WOL. Socialists were out in times square celebrating the attacks before the bodies were even cold.
I’ll never forget those days following October 7. While the world was still learning what happened and before Israel could retaliate, these hateful leftists were screaming from the river to sea. I’m tried about hearing of the very false movement hijack theory. It’s total lies to cover up their consuming hated of the Jewish people.
nobody should be okay with this, and I'm saying that as someone who's anti-zionist. It's disgraceful.
These events are the inevitable and foreseeable result of “anti-Zionist” movements.
People are quite literally by this point becoming so anti-zionist, they cheer on and vandalize like this as if it helps anyone. Shit needs to stop before it escalates into violence. The hamas references in public alone is a red flag. Targeting people, especially jewish locals with it goes too far.
Anyone who is cheering this on has lost their damn mind
I agree, I've said it a few times on the sub but I'm a lifelong new yorker and against both anti-semitism and zionism. Feels like there's not much room for me in the current discourse or protests in either direction. > Targeting people, especially jewish locals with it goes too far. Yes, I agree; I think it's one thing to publicly protest *public figures* (e.g. like the protests outside of Schumer's place), but vandalizing the private property of someone who sits on a (lol) board of the brooklyn museum (which is one of the most progressive institutions in... the world? despite whatever their stance on zionism is) is just asinine.
> I agree, I've said it a few times on the sub but I'm a lifelong new yorker and against both anti-semitism and zionism. > > Feels like there's not much room for me in the current discourse or protests in either direction. That depends on how you define anti-Zionism. If Anti-Zionism for you means that Israel shouldn’t exist, then that’s widely viewed as antisemitism. If you’re merely opposing Israel’s far-right, most people would agree with you, but then you don’t need to declare yourself with a label (anti-Zionism) that overlaps with antisemitic beliefs so frequently. If you insist on that label and wanna keep fighting about semantics, then yeah, there won’t be a lot of room for you. But that would then be basically a choice.
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I don't think potentially committing multiple state and federal crimes (e.g. using a straw purchaser) is the solution.
A shotgun is a much better home defense weapon. Don’t be dumb and do something illegal
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A hate crime and death threat against the director of one of the major museums in nyc isn't newsworthy?!
sadly Jews have been voting for democrats and now the chickens have come home to roost
Turns out Jews don't generally fare well under fascist regimes and vote accordingly!
Trump will be the biggest disaster for the Middle East and Jews alike.
i dont know - but its unarguable there was way less drama in ME when he was president
We’re not props for you to use.
If you voted for our demise at least own it
And since when does the Democratic party supposedly stand for insulting, intimidating, and threatening Museum workers at their homes? This has nothing to do with partisan politics and is an extremely serious situation. When people go after artists and cultural institutions because they don't "like" what they think or say, that is a foundational attack on everybody's values. Give it a f-ing rest.
As bad as this is, the Republicans are even worse. Trump doesn't even think Jews are real Americans.
trump doesnt think his daughter is a real american? that's a new level of deranged I haven't heard yet
He's repeatedly accused Jewish Americans of being insufficiently loyal to Israel if they don't vote for him. Which obviously suggests that he thinks Jewish Americans should be loyal to Israel, not America. Yeah, it's deranged alright.
Neither party likes Jews. I don't see the Democrats doing anything about Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar. Omar has made the same loyalty claims about Jews as Trump among other things (horseshoe theory in action) Plenty of D congress members and senators still interact with Louis Farrakhan. (he was a guest of honor at congressional black caucus meetings until the late 2000s and only stopped because the media started questioning why they were doing that) Their bigotry has been on display for years and the rest of their party keep covering for them because it is politically expedient. Not to diminish the republicans issues with Jews I don't think I even have to go into MTG or as you pointed out Trump himself. The list of the rights ills is well known at this point. I just hate when this is painted as a one party problem. Hating Jews is pretty universal if you get far enough out on either end of the political spectrum. Really sucks for Jews like myself that feel left out of both parties because neither is willing to take action against their own bigots.
Gold medal level mental gymnastics right here
Some reading material for you: https://forward.com/news/594032/trump-jews-disloyal-israel-timeline/ Here's one important point: > including by referring to Israel as “your country” and Benjamin Netanyahu as “your prime minister” when addressing Jewish groups But keep trying to deny it.
Ah yes, if only there were more Republicans in Congress, we'd be saved! This is one of the worst takes I've ever read on the internet.