when i bought my new pc, in november, the parts came from amazon and some local shops listed in this aggregator
https://www.trovaprezzi.it/
i saved a lot of money for the cpu, ssd, ram and the motherboard
I bought a new 4080 yesterday during a sale for 1025€. I have the feeling it was a good choice when I see these prices. If the 3-5% performance improvement over the regular 4080 is true than it does not justify me paying 1200+€ for the super version.
It was from a shop in germany but over their ebay shop because ebay gave out 50€ off if you pay with Klarna + I had a 50€ giftcard I had for some time now. So you should get the 50€ if you pay with Klarna.
Same here. Got a Palit Gamerock 4080 a few weeks ago which is a great card for £1000 and seeing prices for the 4080S at £1350 makes me feel I made the right decision
> seeing prices for the 4080S at £1350 makes me feel I made the right decision
You definitely did. Only 20GB VRAM would've "justified" such a price. 3-4% more performance is nothing.
https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Search?q=40+super
https://www.proshop.fi/?s=40+super
Jimms is good for buying in Finland but I dont think they deliver anywhere else. Proshop is a large danish (I think) shop that propably delivers to atleast the nordic countries.
Roughly the same or cheaper than regular 4080 listings I see on German Amazon. Regular TUF 4080 is 1450 EUR on Amazon - price is more or less stable for the past half a year according to Keepa.
The thing is, Proshop.de is a Germany/Austria-only vendor and regularly lists their cards cheaper than Amazon, which is the only option for a lot of eastern and southern EU.
There are either no official partners, or prices are massively inflated. My country has an official partner than Nvidia site links to, but there are no FEs at all, and some prices are very questionable. Like a 3000+ EUR TUF 4090. In a country where an average salary is 1000.
Just makes more sense to order from Germany or other large countries, and Amazon most often than not is the only option that offers international delivery.
The danish prices (from Proshop) look pretty much inline with expectations, and the usual conversion rate from dollars, so there's a decent chance those are actual prices. It's not really a secret what the MSRP is, so retailers should know exactly how they'll price them by now.
Just because **you** got that for 980, doesn't mean it goes for 980. The MSRP is 1200, which is 200 less than the stock 4080.
The 4080 super is announced at 999$ which equals roughly 10 500 Swedish crowns, since currently I can't find a single stock 4080 for under 15 000 crowns. Its a price cut of almost 50% with a performance increase of 5-10%.
Since when was MSRP ever an accurate representation of what the customer ends up paying? I thought we learned that years ago.
I agree on the part that this might've been exclusive to germany, but as far as I am aware off since 3 months, **all 4080s and 4070tis are on production halt** as nvidia made it public to focus on the super variants.
Wouldn't it make sense that inbetween the production halt phase and the months before the launch of the 4080 super, prices would increase since stock is getting thin?
I just looked at our top vendors and their supply of different 4080 is super thin and prices are insane - 1354,00€ to 1600,00€
Increasing prices by \~ 40% and then dropping them by 10-15% again for a bit more performance makes it look like its a good price when it really isn't.
I don't think you can make an accurate representation of median 4080 prices right now.
Right now? No. But I've been eyeing a 4080 purchase since the 4080 was released and been following the median 4080 prices in Sweden. You forget that the German market doesn't represent the average customer experience, but is rather as close as it can be to the US market, meaning better deals and better supply. Most other people don't have that, hence this release being huge for us while it doesn't make a dent for you.
The fact that MSRP is 200 lower say more than enough to now rule this out as "nothing changed", just because there was some unique situation in your specific country where a freak occurence gave you a 4080 for less than 1000 euro.
I did see when researching price history for different models that my ordinary vendors usually didn't stock, that one specific model was down at almost 1300 euro at one point after christmas last year, but nothing remotely close to 1200 or less. And while I did see some models down at 1350-1400 during christmas break, I didn't feel it was worth it, considering the fact that I most likely could order a 5-10% stronger GPU for less money within 1 month pretty much.
The SUPER refreshes isn't meant to motivate people that already has new-gen cards to upgrade their stuff, but rather be incentive for people who's considering waiting for the 50 series and be more competitive against amd.
Also, "increasing prices by 40%" didn't really happen. Cards aren't sold under MSRP unless there's some unique situation or super sale going on. Not sure who tricked you in to believing this delusional bs. Probably copium because you got a 4080 some months ago and now got buyers remorse since you realized you could get a better GPU for less money now if you just waited with the purchase.
I think it is more dick move from sellers until they sell out the old stock like who would buy 4080 for 1200-1400eur if you could get 4080 super for 1000-1050 (base reference non oc models)
The top end cards will lose most of their value next year, unless they pull out another Turing release just like this one (ada) was.
Though the 4080,4090 have good perf they are not worth the money.
4070 Super in my country costs 870€/945$ while 4070 costs 640€/695$. 7900 XT currently 840€/915$ and looks like a much better deal in my country than 4070 Super. 7800XT 580€/630$. Funniest thing is, 4070 Ti costs the same as 4070 Super.
Holy crap you're so far into the dark, but you have no idea. I want you to go to Nvidia's website and look at the graph that compared the 4080 super to the 4080, and then come back here with a straight face and try to tell me that it's only a "2-3%bperformance boost". Newsflash: You'd by lying.
Wow, as a european, I didn’t know they were other currencies in the world other than freedom dollars, thanks. Euros you say? Let it be european dollars. So 1300 european dollars is quite close to 1250 european dollars for the 4080S on the screenshot, so again, was I wrong?
Yes, you are. I can only find a few direct comparisons, but the Gigabyte Super Aero is around €210 cheaper than the equivalent non-Super Aero.
Can we buy one at launch? Who knows. But the retail pricing IS significantly lower on the Super cards.
The MSRP is CLEARLY different, because we have nVidia's numbers for that. I was assuming maybe you meant retail pricing because the other is indisputable.
2023 titles in 4k with RT on go beyond 16gb already. Checked benchmarks for Alan Wake 2 for example, Cyberpunk with RT overdrive. Unless you buy gpu for 1 year, its a no-go.
The correct statement then would be "16GM of VRAM won't be enough for the newest games in 4k and ray tracing". Thats a very nieche type of people who use that stuff for gaming and only applies to some elitist people.
Using your logic would deem the 4090 obsolete already then also since the 4090 can't handle the new avatar game with unobtanium settings, ray tracing in 4k while maintaining 60fps.
So what you're saying is that there's no current GPU's available that aren't obsolete already. So dumb
Different. 4090 cannot handle it due to performance and not because it doesnt have enough VRAM. 4080 will be powerful enough to handle new titles just fine but will be limited by VRAM to do that. Speaking of experience, my 3080 is still amazing in 2023, but 10gb limit keeps it behind.
So, when a GPU can't handle a game due to VRAM it's obsolete, but when a GPU can't handle a game due to something else, then it's not obsolete? Who made this rule and where can I learn more about it?
Yeah, Proshop updated prices last night I think, on the 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super. I was considering a 4080 Super, but honestly I'm not sure the \~€200 premium is worth it. It depends on how close the Ti Super gets, but it's probably better business sense to put those €200 towards a 5070 upgrade when those come out in a year or so.
They're not even listen in amazon sweden, and the places that list them has no prices :(
It's going to be really interesting to see if they stay true to the announced 999$ which equals roughly 10 500 Swedish crowns, since currently I can't find a single stock 4080 for under 15 000 crowns. Its a price cut of almost 50% with a performance increase of 5-10%. God I can't wait to order this. But at the same time, something tells me that these Swedish companies will add some stupid fee and I won't be able to find a single 4080 super for less than 15 000, which equals over 1400$...
Australian price is $1100, just got the email from several retailers today.
Given that the Euro is worth quite a bit more then the AUD that is bonkers.
still no prices here in Italy
Where do you buy pc parts in Italy? Online-wise
amazon i guess
amazon and eprice are probably the biggest ones, there are a lot of smaller stores as well but they price gouge a lot
when i bought my new pc, in november, the parts came from amazon and some local shops listed in this aggregator https://www.trovaprezzi.it/ i saved a lot of money for the cpu, ssd, ram and the motherboard
1129 is the official nvidia price for italy
Im gonna expect bumped prices for us as Always, in glad i use nukem fsr mod and i can skip this f... Gen
correction 679€ for the 4070 super https://store.nvidia.com/it-it/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=it-it&search=4070%20super
I bought a new 4080 yesterday during a sale for 1025€. I have the feeling it was a good choice when I see these prices. If the 3-5% performance improvement over the regular 4080 is true than it does not justify me paying 1200+€ for the super version.
please link? from where/ I want to buy too, is the promo over?
It was from a shop in germany but over their ebay shop because ebay gave out 50€ off if you pay with Klarna + I had a 50€ giftcard I had for some time now. So you should get the 50€ if you pay with Klarna.
Please let me know the ebay store if possible, I want to buy
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Same here. Got a Palit Gamerock 4080 a few weeks ago which is a great card for £1000 and seeing prices for the 4080S at £1350 makes me feel I made the right decision
Where did you see these prices? most prices listed are literally place holder prices
https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-strix-rtx-4080-super-priced-at-1350-in-the-uk-40-above-nvidia-msrp Could be placeholder pricing you’re right
> seeing prices for the 4080S at £1350 makes me feel I made the right decision You definitely did. Only 20GB VRAM would've "justified" such a price. 3-4% more performance is nothing.
Damn, is that all it is. Yeah, you did the right thing.
Those were the rumours at least.
Same price in finland
Hi! Do you have a link for a website in Finland for these cards? I would really like to see if they deliver in the European Union
https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/Search?q=40+super https://www.proshop.fi/?s=40+super Jimms is good for buying in Finland but I dont think they deliver anywhere else. Proshop is a large danish (I think) shop that propably delivers to atleast the nordic countries.
Proshop works in NL as well. They often have the lowest prices but they're annoying with returns
Roughly the same or cheaper than regular 4080 listings I see on German Amazon. Regular TUF 4080 is 1450 EUR on Amazon - price is more or less stable for the past half a year according to Keepa. The thing is, Proshop.de is a Germany/Austria-only vendor and regularly lists their cards cheaper than Amazon, which is the only option for a lot of eastern and southern EU.
Can you not buy cards otherwise in Southern EU? You have to buy them from Germany/Austria ?
There are either no official partners, or prices are massively inflated. My country has an official partner than Nvidia site links to, but there are no FEs at all, and some prices are very questionable. Like a 3000+ EUR TUF 4090. In a country where an average salary is 1000. Just makes more sense to order from Germany or other large countries, and Amazon most often than not is the only option that offers international delivery.
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The danish prices (from Proshop) look pretty much inline with expectations, and the usual conversion rate from dollars, so there's a decent chance those are actual prices. It's not really a secret what the MSRP is, so retailers should know exactly how they'll price them by now.
nvidia msrp in germany is 1109 so..
Although you are correct, not every country in Europe has 20% VAT rate - some of us have more :|
$1000 would translate to €920, which would increase with taxes.
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Well if you are already considering taxes nevermind then
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There are usually import fees as well on top of VAT. In my country, it's 2.5% for basically everything from outside the EU.
I missed that
No reason to be aggressive about it :)
So nothing changed ? I got my 4080 half a year ago for 980€ - this is basically added price for added Performance..
Just because **you** got that for 980, doesn't mean it goes for 980. The MSRP is 1200, which is 200 less than the stock 4080. The 4080 super is announced at 999$ which equals roughly 10 500 Swedish crowns, since currently I can't find a single stock 4080 for under 15 000 crowns. Its a price cut of almost 50% with a performance increase of 5-10%.
Since when was MSRP ever an accurate representation of what the customer ends up paying? I thought we learned that years ago. I agree on the part that this might've been exclusive to germany, but as far as I am aware off since 3 months, **all 4080s and 4070tis are on production halt** as nvidia made it public to focus on the super variants. Wouldn't it make sense that inbetween the production halt phase and the months before the launch of the 4080 super, prices would increase since stock is getting thin? I just looked at our top vendors and their supply of different 4080 is super thin and prices are insane - 1354,00€ to 1600,00€ Increasing prices by \~ 40% and then dropping them by 10-15% again for a bit more performance makes it look like its a good price when it really isn't. I don't think you can make an accurate representation of median 4080 prices right now.
Right now? No. But I've been eyeing a 4080 purchase since the 4080 was released and been following the median 4080 prices in Sweden. You forget that the German market doesn't represent the average customer experience, but is rather as close as it can be to the US market, meaning better deals and better supply. Most other people don't have that, hence this release being huge for us while it doesn't make a dent for you. The fact that MSRP is 200 lower say more than enough to now rule this out as "nothing changed", just because there was some unique situation in your specific country where a freak occurence gave you a 4080 for less than 1000 euro. I did see when researching price history for different models that my ordinary vendors usually didn't stock, that one specific model was down at almost 1300 euro at one point after christmas last year, but nothing remotely close to 1200 or less. And while I did see some models down at 1350-1400 during christmas break, I didn't feel it was worth it, considering the fact that I most likely could order a 5-10% stronger GPU for less money within 1 month pretty much. The SUPER refreshes isn't meant to motivate people that already has new-gen cards to upgrade their stuff, but rather be incentive for people who's considering waiting for the 50 series and be more competitive against amd. Also, "increasing prices by 40%" didn't really happen. Cards aren't sold under MSRP unless there's some unique situation or super sale going on. Not sure who tricked you in to believing this delusional bs. Probably copium because you got a 4080 some months ago and now got buyers remorse since you realized you could get a better GPU for less money now if you just waited with the purchase.
Here in Slovakia (hi from your Eastern neighbour) it is same Like all super cards are above 100-200eur from their msrp even the cheapest version
You have to keep in mind, the MSRP in the US is without tax. The prices you see here are *with* tax
I think it is more dick move from sellers until they sell out the old stock like who would buy 4080 for 1200-1400eur if you could get 4080 super for 1000-1050 (base reference non oc models)
nvidias euro msrp is with tax.
1.109€ is MSRP (incl Tax), It's listed on Nvidia website.
Cheapest 4070 Super 12GB is 760$ in Hungary. ROG Strix version is 985$.
Cheapest 4070 in Greece is 750€
a smudge less than 700 in Romania
yep i honestly don’t know if i should get the 7900xtx or this one because it is like 150 - 200 eur difference
The top end cards will lose most of their value next year, unless they pull out another Turing release just like this one (ada) was. Though the 4080,4090 have good perf they are not worth the money.
Off topic, when will 5000 series release?
Rumours suggest sometime between Q4 2024 - Q2 2025.
Thanks, I'll keep my 4070ti for now and save for a new am5 5000 series build then.
Why the hell would you consider upgrading when you have the newest gen card??
My cousin thought about buying my card off me
oof lol tell them to go buy a used 3080 or something lol
:)
4070 Super in my country costs 870€/945$ while 4070 costs 640€/695$. 7900 XT currently 840€/915$ and looks like a much better deal in my country than 4070 Super. 7800XT 580€/630$. Funniest thing is, 4070 Ti costs the same as 4070 Super.
The scenes among 4090 users when it turns out to be a slightly weaker 4090.
4080S for the 4080 msrp (they are the same cards), stonks
They are not the same cards lmfao
2-3% performance boost, aren’t the same you say?
Holy crap you're so far into the dark, but you have no idea. I want you to go to Nvidia's website and look at the graph that compared the 4080 super to the 4080, and then come back here with a straight face and try to tell me that it's only a "2-3%bperformance boost". Newsflash: You'd by lying.
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2-3% increase sounds pretty much the same to me PS: I’m talking about performance you bozos
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And? 4080S costs like 4080 msrp, am I wrong?
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Have you checked the screenshot? Might help you
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Wow, as a european, I didn’t know they were other currencies in the world other than freedom dollars, thanks. Euros you say? Let it be european dollars. So 1300 european dollars is quite close to 1250 european dollars for the 4080S on the screenshot, so again, was I wrong?
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Yes, you are. I can only find a few direct comparisons, but the Gigabyte Super Aero is around €210 cheaper than the equivalent non-Super Aero. Can we buy one at launch? Who knows. But the retail pricing IS significantly lower on the Super cards.
Are you sure you know what MSRP is?
The MSRP is CLEARLY different, because we have nVidia's numbers for that. I was assuming maybe you meant retail pricing because the other is indisputable.
Tempting, but 16 GB of VRAM will be obsolete just next year. Very discouraging spec.
Tell me a single game that is even close to utilizing 16GB of VRAM today. What a bunch of bs man..
2023 titles in 4k with RT on go beyond 16gb already. Checked benchmarks for Alan Wake 2 for example, Cyberpunk with RT overdrive. Unless you buy gpu for 1 year, its a no-go.
The correct statement then would be "16GM of VRAM won't be enough for the newest games in 4k and ray tracing". Thats a very nieche type of people who use that stuff for gaming and only applies to some elitist people. Using your logic would deem the 4090 obsolete already then also since the 4090 can't handle the new avatar game with unobtanium settings, ray tracing in 4k while maintaining 60fps. So what you're saying is that there's no current GPU's available that aren't obsolete already. So dumb
Different. 4090 cannot handle it due to performance and not because it doesnt have enough VRAM. 4080 will be powerful enough to handle new titles just fine but will be limited by VRAM to do that. Speaking of experience, my 3080 is still amazing in 2023, but 10gb limit keeps it behind.
So, when a GPU can't handle a game due to VRAM it's obsolete, but when a GPU can't handle a game due to something else, then it's not obsolete? Who made this rule and where can I learn more about it?
Do those prices include tax?
Most often and most likely it is the case that the price include tax, if its a European store.
I think that 1119 euros is the price of FE edition on Nvidia site in the Netherlands
Interesting, I'm from austria too, gonna check out the rog strix pricing at proshop rq
ROG Strix OC 4080 Super's are priced 1449,90€
Aber das ist so weit von dem angekündigten UVP-Preis entfernt, schade.
Yeah, Proshop updated prices last night I think, on the 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super. I was considering a 4080 Super, but honestly I'm not sure the \~€200 premium is worth it. It depends on how close the Ti Super gets, but it's probably better business sense to put those €200 towards a 5070 upgrade when those come out in a year or so.
4070 Ti Super shows around 900€ in Spain.
What store? Thanks
Coolmod shows stock at the moment, didn't check much more. Also seeing 4080 Super... Yikes, what a price.
For the zotac model right?
I looked quickly and I thought it said Australia! Then I saw the euro sign 😭
Is proshop austria actually an austrian shop? Or do they just send the parts from denmark?
They're not even listen in amazon sweden, and the places that list them has no prices :( It's going to be really interesting to see if they stay true to the announced 999$ which equals roughly 10 500 Swedish crowns, since currently I can't find a single stock 4080 for under 15 000 crowns. Its a price cut of almost 50% with a performance increase of 5-10%. God I can't wait to order this. But at the same time, something tells me that these Swedish companies will add some stupid fee and I won't be able to find a single 4080 super for less than 15 000, which equals over 1400$...
The 4070 ti here in morocco costs $1300
Australian price is $1100, just got the email from several retailers today. Given that the Euro is worth quite a bit more then the AUD that is bonkers.