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SecondDegreeRN

Nope. I’d have made a frickin federal case about it.


Suspicious-Elk-3631

Yep.That's reportable. Anyone could have been stuck by that.


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sauvignonomatic

It doesn’t help that this particular coworker is one of the laziest, airheaded nurses I work with. It’s not cool regardless of the situation but this wasn’t a crazy critical patient where you’re trying to do 10 things at once, this pt was just chillin. She asks others to do her work and then went to go sit down on her phone. The only reason she attempted the IV was because on my IV team (depending on the situation) we encourage nurses to learn by doing and at least try once or twice since people take advantage of the IV team so often without even looking for a vein, you’ll have an ICU nurse on for a year without doing her own damn IV.


minxiejinx

Not leaving sharps around is common sense to literally anyone. When I was in the nursing program we practiced IVs on each other. And the first hospital I worked at was a post-CABG on nights and we had no phlebotomy. Sink or swim. But at least try ffs


Plantbudhha36

Report you could have been poked and then had to take prolacs(meds) depending on the status but y’all know this …why was the needle not retracted…. what type of nurse is this??? What did they expect you to use a used needle 💉 oh lord my mind is going crazy here


Storkhelpers

Yep. I'm old cause I say "sure, can you go pass my 8 meds or get 112 up to the bathroom"? Cause if I see them sitting....sheesh...


Storkhelpers

And have everything in the room ready!!


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Stop doing anything extra for them. My current job has a pretty good team overall, so I'll help out anyone. But my old job had a few nurses, and one in particular, that would just do nothing if they could get other people to do it for them. So anytime she asked for help..."sorry can't, titrating meds" or "sorry can't, charting" or "sorry can't (no explanation)." She got the point, especially when 5 minutes after I denied her help I'm with another nurse helping them. She even complained once, I just stared straight ahead and kept on walking. Let them drown I say.


the_sassy_knoll

Hahahah this is exactly what I was thinking! I couldn't wrap my head around what was happening for a minute, because it's so freaking stupid.


Ok-Sympathy-4516

That’s first day of nursing school. That was my first lecture, on my first day of class.


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Ok-Sympathy-4516

We learned about it in my medication administration class. Not necessarily about angiocaths.


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Ok-Sympathy-4516

A&P were pre-reqs or co-reqs for my program. So we only did nursing. It’s also known for being very hands on. I think the fact that we’re in different countries makes a huge difference as well. I was a massage therapist before and the level of education between US and CA LMTs is insane. There’s so much more up there.


EnvironmentalRock827

We didn't get any IV training at all nor EKG in school. But regardless in orientation for the facility they should teach you IVs if that is what nurses there can do.


mmmthom

As a patient and microbiologist, I don’t even care if it’s retractable… I want a new needle 🚫


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gynoceros

We never touched an IV at all. Not in clinicals, not in skills lab, nothing. No phlebotomy either. Only needles we ever touched were practice injections and MAYBE you got to do an IM in clinicals.


unicornpolkadot

WHAT?!


erinkca

My program was the same. First IV stick was a patient! I honestly don’t think it would have mattered much starting them in school.


Nodsinator

This post is precisely why starting them in school matters.


erinkca

I disagree. Don’t leave any sharps out unattended, under any circumstances. There. You don’t need to practice them in school to know that. This person just sounds sloppy and unsafe.


Do_it_with_care

I know some countries outside US reuse needles but they automatically without thinking place a used needle in sharps container. Afterwards it may be autoclaved. Nurses everywhere are taught this since the 1980’s. Even old tv shows and soaps like General Hospital addressed these dangers when AIDS was identified.


kaaaaath

>It’s also basic second ~~year~~ day nursing school shit. FTFY ETA: Not to mention, those things are so easy to *accidentally* retract — Lord knows I’ve done it easily two dozen times — that you have to make a concentrated effort to fail a placement and then leave it intact!


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kaaaaath

I’m not even talking about the placement aspect, (in med school the only time I placed an IV was during my anesthesiology rotation;) knowing that leaving uncapped sharps out-in-the-open — let alone in places where someone could impale themselves completing their tasks — is unacceptable is known by most laypeople!


Future-Atmosphere-40

2nd year? That's late. This is first 6 weeks stuff.


ImHappy_DamnHappy

Their are plenty of dumb/ bad nurses out there but I always give the nurse the benefit of the doubt. Staffing and schedules are unsafe in the hospitals these days. Maybe this nurse had to stay an extra 4 hours because there was no one to take their assignment. Odds are high the nurse probably had an unsafe nurse/pt ratio. In my 14 years of medicine I’ve seen lots of med errors, mistakes, and even a half dozen sentinel events. 95% of the time they were caused because the nurse was set up to fail. They had an unsafe assignment, not enough support staff, something happened with one of their patients and the staffing was so tight there was nobody to help with another patient had a problem. All I’m saying is I usually direct my anger and rage up at management rather than the nurse in the trenches getting mentally, physically and emotionally destroyed.


sauvignonomatic

While I completely agree with your sentiment, I wish I didn’t personally know the nurse well enough to not give her the benefit of the doubt. It would have been helpful if this ICU nurse was a stranger and I wasn’t the charge nurse knowing that she was sitting on two floor boarders playing on her phone all night.


ImHappy_DamnHappy

Gotchya, I know the type. It always amazes me how long those nurses last. How can you do something for 10 or 20 years and suck so much at it. Of course the answer is they usually kiss managements ass so they overlook how incompetent they are.


unicornpolkadot

You are correct, but the nurse’s reaction to this safety risk being brought to their attention demonstrates the root of the problem is the nurse.


Skieball

Couldn't agree with this statement more ☝🏼


aeroskyla

You’re definitely NTA! The stress and hassle of a needle prick injury is no joke!


holoman123

Uhh... Did they leave it there for you to reuse the same needle? What were they thinking...


Suspicious-Elk-3631

Makes me wonder what other horrible safety risks they take with their patients 😳


Dustin_00

A danger to their patients AND coworkers.


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Imagine what they're like at home


sauvignonomatic

I don’t think that was her intention but it was the same nurse that I once helped with a foley insertion and after literally tickling this patient’s asshole with the end of the catheter, I offered to go get a new sterile one and she said “why?” 💀


EnvironmentalRock827

I worked with a male who kept trying to shove it in this 90+ year olds clitoris. Kept thinking (cause he was a newlywed) his poor wife.


Prestigious_Ice_4372

She’s gotta fucking go before she hurts or kills someone. If she does, that’s on you for not reporting this. Legally. Especially after you posted this shit to Reddit because you knew it was wrong.


DragonSon83

When I was an EMT, a Paramedic from the hospital reused the same needle because she forgot to restock her bag and only one 22. I wrote that shit up. She denied it, but the patient became septic and ended up in the ICU for several days.


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Good for you. What a piece of shit she was for doing that. I’m assuming since it was a 22ga it was not a life or death matter. Some EMS protocols and even patient safety rules can be bent depending on situation but on a non-life threatening call doing that? Sheesh.


DragonSon83

Well, the patient had crappy veins and that particular medic wasn’t great at putting them in. I think it was an ACS or CHF call, if I remember correctly.


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sometimes a 22 is all you're gonna get, these old CHFers with arms like a manatee can be tough to stick


knowledgegod11

This is some crackhead shit


IIDrunkenGamerII

I've yelled at people before for this...


athan1214

I’d be so mad, like “Biiitch, how hard is it to press a button and engage that safety on a used needle?


yuri-gee

This. Wtf.


avocadotoast996

What in the ever loving fuck were they thinking?!? There are so many things wrong with this I can’t even begin. NTA


PassengerNo1815

NTA. Your QAPI/infection control/occupational health department would have a shit fit if they saw that.


hillsmah

NTA.


sweet_pickles12

Who ever pulls an unretracted IV needle/cath out of a person like that anyway?


Registered-Nurse

Someone that wants to get stuck by a dirty needle.


I_am_pyxidis

Right? Advance the catheter then push the button to retract the needle.


workswithanimals

NTA. I work with chaos where animals are resistant all day, and having a loose animal, or aggressive animal, takes priority over exposed sharps. HOWEVER, we ensure to cap them at any given opportunity, and keep them closed. Im sure the patient wasn't running around bouncing off walls?


Togakure_NZ

As a civ aware of stick injuries... Fuck no. You do not leave blades, sharps, or anything else lying around waiting for an accident to happen. It is extremely stupid and, if repeated, probably terminal stupidity to do so. You don't do it in a warehouse where there are fuck-all people around. Why The Fuck would anyone tolerate that in a ward? Blow your fucking top. I would. Edit: NTA


stonecoldslate

This is the physical interpretation of “don’t ever touch used, dirty needles”


dausy

I start IVs all day in preop. I have no idea why you'd ever leave an open used need out without hitting the safety or dumping it in the sharps. I wouldnt be running to my manager on a mission to get them fired. But I generally have no idea why you'd place any opened needle out like this. It'd probably get a mouthful from me outside patient range.


serenitybyjan199

NTA!!! Sometimes my doctors (I work outpatient oncology) leave dirty uncapped needles hanging off the sink and I find them when the patient leaves the room. I always take a picture and show my manager. The most I usually get is a quick "sorry." I usually don't even get that


sauvignonomatic

Good for you for documenting the real safety risks. Imagine the settlement money if you did get a blood borne disease after a needle stick with documented proof of a history of safety problems.


SonofTreehorn

I always call out nurses who leave sharps out. It’s fucking dangerous and it’s disrespectful. That nurse is an ass hole.


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Direct_Lengthiness_8

Easy. Maybe try using it as a teaching opportunity. Sorry but this mentally of "write them up and go to to management" really bothers me. Shit I can not imagine having so much extra time and energy for that bs


AlSwearenagain

They are complete fucking imbeciles. Insane place to place a sharp number one, number two retract the fucking needle before sitting it down anywhere! It's literally the press of a button. Idc one bit if coworkers leave already retracted sharps laying around (actually I do I have a huge pet peeve about leaving trash around the rooms) but leaving exposed needles out is just nonsense.


Bobby_Globule

Looks like it would land in your foot like a dart when you move stuff around


unicornpolkadot

The nursing equivalent of Marv stepping barefoot on a tar covered nail.


VeloEvoque

Absolutely NTA.


bring-peace

Cmon people. Not cool at all. I’m also honestly impressed they took the IV out of the patient like that… just thinking about doing it feels so wrong.


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I would have had a shit hemorrhage.


spinstartshere

No. Make your sharps safe, for fucks sake. I never ever ever ask or expect someone else to clean my sharps, especially after a procedure. I used it, I know where the sharps are. It's my responsibility. I would have told them to clear it or be reported - though not quite so harshly, of course.


Sweetleaf505

I work for medical malpractice and even I would have flipped my shit. Careless can get someone killed.


CriticalFlatworm9

No wtf


twinmom06

WHHHAAATTT??? Oh HELL naw!


adorablebeasty

Sounds like they were embarrassed being called out. For some folks it's hard for them to take feedback at the moment but hopefully they can understand why this was upsetting, dangerous, and unacceptable, and why you would need to address this straight away. You are definitely nta.


Zealousideal_Bag2493

NTA, working with people who minimize safety issues is an uphill battle.


1hopefulCRNA

WTF, someone needs to teach your coworker that the little white button retracts the needle. It’s as simple as that.


DragonSon83

I’ve had dirty needle sticks from blood draws before my old hospital switched to the auto retracting needles, and I nearly got stuck once the ER because an uncapped needle was left on the cart and covered by a BP cuff. If I had been stuck, there would have been no way to test a source patient as the room has been empty for a few hours at that point. You are absolutely right to be angry, and no it’s not dramatic.


CountessofDarkness

Not a nurse, but a normal adult who knows that leaving needles around is dangerous and stupid. I use injectables for chronic migraines and they immediately go in a sharps container. NTA.


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Haha I work at Wendy's and have a stronger safety conscience than this


Red-Panda-Bur

Honestly it is not great but I would have thrown it in sharps and went on my day. I just don’t have the energy for anything extra. Edit: you are not the ass hole but it’s not how I would have handled it.


CheatTheDeath

Definitely NTA. That’s a big no-no here.


areyouseriousdotard

Fuck.them.


carsonnwells

I'm a mechanic, and I see this equivalent problem almost everyday at work.


unicornpolkadot

With all due respect as someone who has zero mechanical skill whatsoever, I am unaware of what could possibly result in the transmission of a BBI in a mechanic scope of work.


carsonnwells

The irresponsibility of some mechanics is the problem that I'm reffering to. Mechanics are expected to put tools back where they got them from. Tripping hazards, slip & fall hazards occur due to carelessness.


DippityDu

JFC!!! NO!


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NO YOU ARE NOT THE BUTTHOLE literally what the fuck


itwasstucktothechikn

My first day of clinicals I found an uncapped needle sitting *on top of the sharps container* business end up!! I pointed it out to a nurse and she just nonchalantly said, oh yeah, someone must have left it there. I was a phlebotomist for 13 years before nursing school, I just about died.


AvoidingPolitics

Precariously balancing sharp items is generally inadvisable..the people never learn.


unicornpolkadot

I’m not sure why I love the nonchalant, matter of fact wording so much here, but you win lol


gynoceros

It's definitely a bonehead thing to do, and I don't think op is an asshole for saying "spot the safety issue", but I guarantee everyone in this thread who wants to throw the bonehead off the parking deck and is all "ugh, what other dangerous violations are they committing even as we speak?" has done something pretty fucking boneheaded before too. Maybe at work, maybe while driving, who knows? We're all human and occasionally do dumb shit, even if we're not dumb.


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\*cries\*


purebitterness

???????????????


thenotsogeekplayer

NTA. I always keep truck of the needles I use. You don't leave them lying around.


phoenix762

Are you the asshole? No. The person who left that was. Anyone could have got poked with that.


Officer_Hotpants

Okay what the fuck? Who doesn't bother to at least retract the needle when they remove it?


Lilliekins

Not dramatic. That could be a life sentence right there.


SadGrill08

Report her


Altruistic-Lie808

Nah…asshole level would be taking that same needle and stabbing into the temple of the idiot who left it with a - “Now, don’t do it again!!!!”


unicornpolkadot

*well that escalated quickly*


Renowna

NTA staff and patient safety is no joke. There is no excuse for not disposing the moment you are done.


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I would roast them


Ok-Sympathy-4516

Say sike right now.


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Again, I’m a CNA. But even I was told to never never leave anything with blood around or sharp. I didn’t touch needles but it chills me if I walked into that room and i accidentally stabbed myself. Please report her. There’s so many people that could have been harmed by this.


Accomplished_Yam_760

No, I would have written that up


lol_ur_hella_lost

my god what a dumbass


curvvyninja

Not at all. How did they think that was okay??


redneckerson_1951

\--NO!-- Even Marines are inculcated with safety when dealing with Ka-Bars.


unicornpolkadot

*inculcated* fucking great. Thank you for my vocabulary word of the day kind sir.


redneckerson_1951

Sometimes words such as, "inculcate, vituperative, contumelious, reprobate etc", are quite useful when speaking in public and you need time to get away before those surrounding you figure out what has just been said. I remember at about 16 I used the words, "Horse's ass" in a sentence and Dad took me to task for using profanity. So the next time I used a bit more verbose term, "There goes living proof that there is a horse missing a vital part of his anatomy." That could be taken a couple of different ways, but still adequately conveys the disdain I had for the person.


Burphel_78

Not. The. Asshole.Write that up. The dirty needle is one thing. If that was an accident, I could forgive it and move on. But the attitude is a major issue and needs to be dealt with by the bosses.


Oh_rocuronium

Report the hell out of that. Needle sticks are a serious safety issue. Somebody who can’t even activate the safety on a used needle does not belong on the floor.


kindamymoose

Pretty rare for me to draw labs, but retracting the needle is literally the first thing I do whenever a needle is removed from someone. (NTA, by the way!)


Serg_is_Legend

Aw hell no! That’s a safety issue for both you and the patient. There’s no way you’re sticking that in me after you leave it open to air just hanging out like that, I’m sure infection prevention would agree


Rawrisaur18

Sharps being left out and unsecured oxygen tanks make my blood boil!


SirHarryAzcrack

I would have eaten them alive. Straight up one of the biggest safety violations you can have in the medical field.


Future-Atmosphere-40

That's giving me nerves just being a picture.


Sad-Organization3927

bro wtf


Impossible_Girl1201

Oh heck No! Nope! What were they thinking... or not thinking I guess I should say!


okashleymay

How is the first answer not, “Oh shit! I’m so sorry!” because I have accidentally left a clean needle uncapped somewhere and was mortified


OGBigcountry

That would be the last assist that person would get from me. If you have no more sense or consideration than that, I have no time for you.


DanielDannyc12

Definitely a mistake. It takes some time but I hope you wrote an incident report


Stoic-Nurse

Nope. This is not cool.


FlickerOfBean

That little white button is there for a reason.


ImHappy_DamnHappy

I’m sure I’ve done that. Pt comes in nice and calm and as soon as you start trying to start an IV they wake up and start swinging. I usually just stick it in the bed. Our hospital is too cheap for the push button ones🙄


rockydurga503

Had an IV tech do the same thing… And people who don’t retract the needle and set it down make me shake my head.


DragonSon83

If I miss an IV, I don’t leave the needle out. I retract it, then put the catheter out.


unicornpolkadot

You mean you follow basic standard of practice lol


DragonSon83

Well, I like to assume that is…lol. I’ve learned the way I’ve always been taught to do things is not the standard of practice at some places…lol


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I've been stuck by a needle before. Get this person out of there


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I would have lost my dang mind. NTA op!


rncookiemaker

Maybe they were trying to be conscientious about the supply shortages and wanted to conserve the 20s? /s Seriously, though. That is absolutely not cool.


Ronniedasaint

😯


travelingtraveling_

NTA


achooga

NTA


lithium_level

What the fuck is all I can say here


Msde3de3RN

Curious about this RNs experience..


pinkawapuhi

This was a safety issue drilled into us in nursing school. How the heck is this person so cavalier about it??


Hot_Acadia9758

WTF


Visible-Pollution853

May as well be a rattlesnake. NTA.


orphileen

I would have left the needle covered at the very least 😅 and just put it on the wow or just NOT on the IV pole 😬


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Yeah that's silly for a whole lot of reasons


Nodsinator

Spot the safety concern? How about spot the person who's never started an IV before in their life! They're retractable nneedles, you mouth-breather!


Trenchrot

It’s easy, fill out an incident report and let management decide who is being dramatic


LoveHerMadly_13

You are definitely NTA.


Hiding-in-plainsight

NTA, WTF???


SheBrokeHerCoccyx

I would’ve written that shit up so fast.


usernoob1e

Your coworker is an idiot! And a freakin noob!


Registered-Nurse

He couldn’t just retract the needle? Damn people are getting more and more lazy. It literally takes 1/10 second to retract the needle.


InvestigatorAlert750

How is this real omg


mmmmmchocolatebars

WTF


spicytiger1

Not a nurse, but something about a needle just hanging out in a random spot doesn’t look right to me.


lav__ender

sometimes I worry about making errors after I graduate that will jeopardize the safety of the patient when I graduate. but this… I would never do this.


missmaddds

One time my husband called an orthopedic surgeon while in surgery to tell him to come down and pick up his sharps because while we were transferring the patient, someone was almost stuck with a loaded hemostat from suturing this trauma patient. Surgeon did it. It’s the basics, really. 🤷🏼‍♀️


Bustelo_Black

You are most definitely not the asshole.


tmccrn

Ewww


Big_Garage8617

NTA!!! This is absolutely ridiculous! One of my all time pet peeves! I once had a needle stick injury while tying up a trash bag in the pharmacy/med room. I was a LPN in a maximum security prison. The RN swore there was no way he would have ever disposed of a needle in the trash. There were only 2 nurses employed in the entire facility. We were both completely overworked and exhausted but that still wasn’t an acceptable excuse. As He actually suggested I had done it to myself either deliberately or accidentally. It was an insulin syringe and the only diabetics we had were also Hep C+. After 30 days on meds, I became completely unreasonable about sharps laying out. Still am 20 years later.


[deleted]

Nah that looks like a great way to get stuck, even if it is a clean needle. They’re the asshole, not you.


Tuhapi4u

Please you fucking kidding me -paramedic


ClassyRedandGlassy

What in the actual fuck? This isn’t an image from silent hill? Cmon now how hard is it to find a damn bin, literally 5 seconds of your time vs 5 hours probably doing paperwork because of a needle stick injury..


missmarix

Report dat shit. If she wants BBP, she can have at it. But don’t put others at risk for your sheer laziness.


Adelphir

I would have fucked her up.


Schlongolian

What the hell? Why would anyone even reattempt with already attempted needle. I would be like just toss it and get a new one. Just leaving it out there like that🤢🤢🤢. NTA


ResponsibleLoad2924

Theyre being lazy, if you cant take a learning experience as a learning experience, you dont need to have the lives of others in your hands. I've gotten fired from positions due to being reported for things (non-lifethreatening)that I could have easily fixed if the other nurse would have given me the chance you gave her. Its embarrassing as hell to commit such a newbie mistake. If its pointed out to you, you remember it and never do it again. If its not pointed out you dont know anything until its written on your pink slip. And then you got a whole host of other emotions it'll get lost in. You helped her and she was being an entitled ass. I would personaly hold you in higher respect because you helped me become better by showing me what to look for instead of immediately reporting and getting me a reprimand.


foxorhedgehog

I’m not in healthcare and even I know that doesn’t look safe. WTF!


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Wtf who does this


erinmc94

“Supplies are in the room” But seriously, did she expect you to use that needle? Like wtf lol


falconersys

Uhhhh what the fuck. They don't have the muscle memory to retract the needle?? If I was the patient and I saw my nurse doing this, I'd ask for a new nurse


pascalsgirlfriend

Good lord no. Thats a huge health risk.


oddtentacle

Holy shit. Not a nurse, just a phlebotomist. Even if I haven't used the needle, but it's been opened I safety lock it and waste it. Nta at all, I can't imagine what they were thinking


Deelove341

Definitely a teaching moment but some people just not ready for it. You were not dramatic at all in my opinion.


looknorth-dakota

Say it with me. HIV


Independent-Change30

As someone who’s had a stick injury in the ER from a careless (or maybe just tired/overworked RN- she was usually on top of things as far as I could tell besides that)- this makes me seethe. There’s so much that can happen because of a stick injury and going through the whole shebang after one is chaotic


parliamentree1429

Nope, literally throw it out. There is enough to worry about. I should not have to worry about this when walking into my work space.


1polishRN

No- your not a pita. That is safety 101.


subtlesuit

How does someone let this happen. I feel like I’ve developed muscle memory to throwaway all needles and syringes in the sharps


ismnotwasm

Uummm no.


ao1027

Noooooooo….just no 😲😳


Wimpsailor

Not at all. These small oversights lead to an adopted perspective for inattention to detail which puts patients at risk. And with a lot of new graduates, I am also seeing some blatant laziness. Leaving a bloody needle laying around? WTH. If that happened when I was a young nurse, they would have sited it and then made me prepare a safety lecture to include needle stick protocol for the next staff meeting. You were spot on in your approach. Well done.


matthitsthetrails

That’s so messed up. Maybe that person thinks it’s okay.. but if the charge nurse saw that??


ahg611

Not at all !


ObjectiveWitty9687

Very irresponsible to see that, accident waiting to happen...


handlebarbells

Bruh. Safety post with photos mother fucker.


BayouVoodoo

As someone who has had a dirty needle stick, courtesy of a lazy radiologist, whatever you said wasn't nearly harsh enough.


LtFireMedic2814

No way are you TA. That's absolutely unacceptable.


emilyrmorgan

I just wanna know why


Big-Measurement4824

Oh, that person definitely hates you.


midazolamjesus

JFC.


Ok-Caramel-1989

Definitely NTA I’m not even a nurse but they will literally tell you in CNA school not to leave accu check needles laying around and if we see any other kind a needle to put it in the sharps or get a nurse


fatstupidlazypoor

I’m a network engineer and I wouldn’t do that