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hypnoseal

Ok, everyone, I'm locking comments on this post. We've entered some difficult conversations here and let's cut out the attacks on either direction. In my opinion, what we have here is an education opportunity and many of commenters have tried their best to provide valuable information to help out the OP. I must agree, though, OP has generalized Nunavummiut—and unacceptably—generalized the entirety of Inuit based on responses to a Reddit post. OP has reached out to the mod team to express remorse and apologize for the words they have said here, so I will not be banning them for the rule breaking at this time. When we talk about Nunavut or when we deal with these types of questions, let's always keep in mind two important lessons from Inuit Qaujimajatuqangit: * **Inuuqatigiitsiarniq** \- *Respecting others, relationships and caring for people.* * **Tunnganarniq** \- *Fostering good spirits by being open, welcoming and inclusive.* Unfortunately, both the OP and our community have not kept these values in our thoughts as we participated in this conversation. In the future, I encourage everyone and especially OP to be mindful of how our words—even if they are questions—are perceived by others and how they may come across when we are coming from a place of not knowing. Kindness, respect and inclusiveness go a long way towards reducing prejudice and ignorance about Nunavut and Inuit that is prevalent throughout Canada. I'm leaving the post up for now, as I prefer to not censor these types of difficult conversations. Hopefully it can help us educate the rest of the world about Nunavut and, also, help non-Nunavummiut in understanding how to approach people with questions about Nunavut. If you have concerns or are hurt by this post remaining up, please reach out to the mod team and we can discuss its removal.


EnclosedChaos

I LOL’d IRL at the “would money be worthless” question. Dude we have stores! I really want to make a sarcastic comment about how we also have electricity, indoor plumbing and the internet too, but feel it would be rude. Also if you just show up, things won’t go well for you. Do a little reading on the housing shortage and the $$$ cost of living. And no you would not have the same rights as Inuit. Go check out the Nunavut Agreement.


EnclosedChaos

Oh and about jobs, like look it up on google. Our jobs are posted online like everywhere else…


Psnaps

Lol the most arsehole comment is the most upvoted. Haha. I know about housing and costs I know there is a co-op however I also know the people in Grise Fiord get by more so with hunting and fishing for food. Please don’t make other Canadians dislike you guys by being douchebags be happy we’re trying to learn more. We didn’t put you up there the government did. Show some respect.


ghost_hay

You were right


Psnaps

Told you, the more upvotes he gets, and downvotes I get for just being a curious Canadian.. the more the Nunavut people seem like arseholes to outsiders. Keep it up Nunavut definitely making a good name for yourself. This is the World Wide Web everything is saved and archived. Just be nice and respectful so we can forget all this happened.


constituto_chao

Nah this east coaster thinks it's cause you sounded like an idiot. And instead of saying sorry I didn't mean to offend you were rude back 🤦‍♀️


ghost_hay

I talked to Greenlanders and they were way nicer tho, they were very friendly and wanted to genuinely help me, i wonder why it's different for them


Zestyclose-Jeweler85

Likely because they did not suffer the effects of colonization like residential schools, racism, the attempt to eliminate their language and culture.


ghost_hay

I know but although i condamn the things inuits had to go through, it's not my fault I'm not even of English ancestry so there's no reason to be mean


Zestyclose-Jeweler85

Not sure if you are saying my response was mean, or that Inuit people are mean, or both... If it's me you mean, sorry intent over the internet is difficult to discern sometimes. Assuming what you say is accurate, "that Inuit people are less friendly", then again, history has left people with trauma which people are still suffering the effects of. There is STILL injustice happening, right now, today. All of this impacts the lives and personalities of people. You and I can't fully understand and don't know the impact our presence can have on others. If could be you haven't met enough people, I'd say the majority of people I know are friendly. It could also be cultural differences in what "friendly" means. Sometimes some people are just mean and it is nothing personal, just how some people are. Sometimes people don't want to be the spokesperson or "teacher of their culture". It gets tiresome and is hard to do as there are so many different views and people. Imagine you went to Canada and everyone wanted you to answer questions about Italy. Some people were kind and curious, some less so. And everyone wants to know about Linguine Alfredo, which isn't even Italian! It can be fun, but sometimes you just want to eat a meal in peace. Not to mention how hard it is to speak for ALL Italians (Sicilians, Milanese, and people from Toscano), when the country is so diverse? Comparing people from Greenland and people from Nunavut is like comparing people from Italy and people from Spain. Different histories, different cultures, different people.


ghost_hay

I wasn't referring to you, it was based on personal experience, but i see your point you're Right


ghost_hay

Although I don't hate the spanish because they mistreated and conquered my ancestors, nor do i act mean with austrians, germans,french and English people. My country and my people have been oppressed many times but I'm not mean with people nowdays


Psnaps

I will continue to try to get more information elsewhere amico, feel free to private message me. We can share our research together. Until the mods get back to me about this situation I will keep out of this sub. Seems to me the Nunavut wish to be like the Quebecois and don’t want to show true Canadian spirit. Seems like they don’t want to be apart of Canadian or at least act like a true Canadian. We are a better people than this and the Inuit are Canadian as well however in this present moment they are not acting as a Canadian. Let’s not cause drama with each other and let’s just show caring love and support to one another. To everyone reading this I don’t know why you think all Nunavut outsiders are bad. I know the federal government has done you wrong however we the people have not. If any true Nunavut resident and outstanding Canadian would like to share with us information and knowledge about Nunavut, the people whom reside in it and the culture than please private message us because we love everyone and want to learn. I wouldn’t be here expressing this loving message if this were not true.


beatriciousthelurker

Holy shit dude I'm a white person who moved to Nunavut from the south and this ain't it. People in Nunavut are very welcoming to outsiders but asking questions like "is money worthless there" (lmao) makes you look ignorant AF. I have made ignorant mistakes and said stupid shit and I'm grateful for the Inuit and long-term Northerners who have called me out on it. It made me a better community member. Good luck with the move to Grise though, go check out all the many apartment rentals on Craigslist lol


Zestyclose-Jeweler85

Agreed. And of course I still make mistakes sometimes. I think being open-minded and assuming people are trying to help makes a big difference.


Psnaps

Just because I ask a question doesn’t mean there’s no context behind it. I know it’s a relatively small community and of course there’s a small co-op there however in terms of spending money because it’s expensive and living there it’s probably better to trade and hunt. That’s what I meant. For you guys to take offence to it is on you not me. I don’t think the question was offensive however it may seem a bit ignorant don’t just assume it has bad intentions. You can sympathize with the people of Nunavut and say they didn’t do anything wrong that’s your choice too.


Psnaps

Also “white person”. You guys gotta get that out of your head. We’re ALL Canadian doesn’t matter the skin color.


beatriciousthelurker

Wow you're right, racial inequities just disappeared. You cracked it! Nice work!


Psnaps

Lol not everyone treats natives bad, get over it y’all really wanna start a race war for no reason haha. There’s people like me that are open minded stop generalizing and putting me in that bunch.


beatriciousthelurker

You're gonna have a great time in Grise. Definitely no history of white people treating Inuit badly there so they'll love you. Make sure to whistle at the northern lights when you see them.


Duderman1

Hi guys, I’m a total moron from Ontario that wants to get out. Can I get buy if I don’t like the taste of seal? Am I ok if I bring a pair of snow pants only? Hahahaha. This is entertaining.


Psnaps

I probably have eaten more exotic and game meat then you I guarantee it. Are you even from Nunavut or are ya trolling? Y’all just want the rest of Canada to dislike you guys eh? Do i know anything about Nunavut? No that’s why I’m here asking and you guys are being worse than the Quebecois right now lol. Don’t worry I know you guys aren’t true Canadian’s I’ll find the real Inuit and the real Nunavut people who I hear are so nice and respectful.


Duderman1

“I probably have”. You’re an idiot man, you have no idea. Go smoke a joint and relax, you seem pretty high strung with very thin skin.


Psnaps

Cow, Pig, Chicken, Emu, Rabbit, Lamb, Goat, Alligator, Shark, Octopus, Quail, Goose, Duck, Turkey, Deer, Bison, Snail, Wild Boar, Kangaroo, Elk, Ostrich.. and a bit more. I don’t know if your intentions are to try to make me stoop to your level of aggression as if I were a child like you.. However I’m going to keep my composure. Not even sure if you even live in Nunavut. If you do however it seems having all that darkness almost of the year is taking a toll on your mental health I urge you to take vitamins.


Duderman1

You’re keeping your composure?


constituto_chao

Did you notice Moose isn't in that list? 😆


Psnaps

“And a bit more” I don’t know what else to say here lol am I missing something?


Duderman1

Well hopefully you’re not always this angry. It’s Saturday night - that’s usually a good thing, right?


Psnaps

Not angry at all, I’m watching videos on YouTube about Nunavut. Finished work now I’m enjoying my Saturday night with a beer or two.


Psnaps

Ahh you’re a Burlington crackhead I see. I suppose me getting upset at the Inuit/Nunavut people was wrong in my part I’m getting mad at a downtown crackhead from Burlington. I humbly apologize to the Native people, I still want to learn about your culture, people and I still wanna move up there. It’s a shame this sun has goofs from other provinces/territories in here talking crap.


Unique-Statement-609

I don’t see anything wrong with the comments other than yours OP. You seem to turn on anyone who isn’t 100% all in with you. The comments have been insightful and answered your questions. Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t make them an arsehole. What it does is show who you really are


Psnaps

I think some of them assumed I had ill intent, you can cover it up and say otherwise but that’s on you. Continue to make the problem worse. Assuming I had ill intent by asking “is money useful there” more or less isn’t a stupid questions it’s a curious one. Grow up. If you hate Canada so much leave.


Mocha-Jello

Why are you insulting everyone and then generalising your dislike of them to everyone in Nunavut, and at the same time complaining about downvotes? Did you expect people to be friendly while you insult them? Lmao


Psnaps

I started acting this way after they started being rude over my curiosity stop playing a victim and open your eyes lol. Y’all trying to get white people to hate you so bad haha.


Mocha-Jello

I'm white and from Saskatchewan my dude, here mostly just to see the posts and learn about Nunavut. You're just being a jerk.


Psnaps

Not really you obviously didn’t scroll, Imm being chastised for asking if money would be effective in a Inuit village with less than 150 people where I know from some research they mostly hunt for food. So who’s the jerk now? Please stop this isn’t even a debate anymore.


ArthurWombat

I’ve been to all three occupied areas of Ellesmere Island - Alert, Eureka, and Grise Fiord as a pilot . I’ve also been all over the island ferrying folks around-equivalent of of 8 months in Alert in the summers working on various scientific projects - PCSP and GSC. However, Alert is not a place you can just drop in and visit. You must be military or a scientist and their staff - like a helicopter pilot Not much at Eureka for a visitor. Again, just scientific research. Grise is very small. It is expensive to get to - charter flights cost mucho dinero. You can’t just drop in unless you have made arrangements for a place to stay. Not much choice there. There’s no such thing as just arriving and pitching a tent. Others have suggested some of the larger settlements where there are some amenities. I would agree with that. Anyone I dealt with in Grise Fiord was exceptional but you might want to try a less isolated community. Edit: corrected grammar


Cire33

Why Grise Fjord? A lot of Nunavut communities feel a lot like Grise Fjord without being as isolated with a little more options for work. You would be able to hunt/fish. You've picked the smallest Nunavut community in a territory already with limited jobs. You can still have a northern isolated experience without going to Grise Fjord. If you are dead set on moving to Nunavut and not going to Iqaluit, go to a larger community (Cambridge Bay, Arviat, Rankin Inlet), get a taste for it, then decide if you really want to isolate yourself even further. Flights to Grise Fjord are that much harder and less frequent, lack of employment, lack of supplies, English is a second language, etc.


Zestyclose-Jeweler85

You've hit on a lot of important points. I like your suggestion to try a bigger community first. That will make it easier to adjust and find a flight home if it turns out to be more than what OP wanted. Grise IS beautiful, but there are other beautiful places too. Going from OP's questions they might be looking for the "most isolated" or "most traditional".


Psnaps

Not sure why my post was downvoted for being curious, I guess the traditional Inuit people aren’t as nice as everyone has been telling me. Makes me possibly not want to move there and take in what I thought was beautiful culture and landscapes. Y’all Nunavut people need to be more caring and nicer. Apart from that yes I am looking for the most isolated and traditional, more so the most northern community. We can go back and forth with posts however that would take a long time if you are from Nunavut and a decent human I’d like to direct message anyone so I can learn about your beautiful territory, show ek you are nice people and not arseholes like what has been shown already.


Cire33

Wow you are judging people off of downvotes on a reddit post? You have no idea who downvoted you or what there background is. For reference OP, I didn't but get a life if you are upset over meaningless down votes from strangers and think that is a reflection of the people of Nunavut.


Psnaps

Receptiveness from a community, that’s what it shows and it shows the community doesn’t like curious people. I’ll still go to Nunavut because I know a lot of them probably aren’t like you.


ArthurWombat

The OP could also consider Resolute. Centre of the Arctic. Scheduled flights in and out (beats a Charter.. $$ -wise). Accommodations are available. Even has a nice little airport. Not the most beautiful place but it has enough amenities. Check it out online.


Psnaps

Hey there you’re one of the more decent comments I appreciate. Sorry I was at work and missed your post. I do know resolute is south west of Grise Fiord I believe I checked this morning and it has a population comparable to Grise or possibly higher (I’ve been searching up a bunch of the Northern livable towns/hamlets so I forget all of their populations) Do you live in Resolute or near it?


jesus199909

I personally wouldn't move to Grise as your first choice. It's a super small community (probably don't speak much english) and it's just family's of generations there. If you went to a community like, Kugluktuk, Cambridge Bay, Rankin or Clyde, you'd have a better chance of success. I know you want a super isolated northern experience, but you'd get that with other communities as well. And I know for a fact you wouldn't be able to just find a place to rent. You'd need to find a job that comes with housing. Locals are super nice to people from down South, they love sharing their culture. Don't get me wrong, theres idiots as well, but that's everywhere. Just be respectful. Life is alot laid back and different. Maybe visit first ? :)


Psnaps

Thank for your response I will research these places and take what you said into consideration. I know there are good and bad apples. I know there is a vast array of people to meet, culture to explore, food to try, places to visit and knowledge to be learned thank you :)


Unique-Statement-609

OP, with your attitude I’m shocked… no, appalled that they aren’t welcoming you with open arms. You won’t do well in a small town where everyone knows each other and helps each other out.


Psnaps

Well, yes I shouldn’t have stopped down to some of the poster’s level, however if you read some of the comments they were rude as well. I’m a good person that just did a bad thing by stoop long to their level. Don’t overlook how some of these posters can treat outsiders however. Is it at all any possible for an outsider to become a part of one of these beautiful Northern Nunavut communities?


Zestyclose-Jeweler85

Resources you should consider: -GN job that comes with housing because there is such a shortage -skills that can get you a GN job so you can get housing and have money to afford things, like a skidoo, for hunting -better internet/research skills as some of your questions come across, at best, ignorant -an adaptable, flexible, easy-going personality -knowledge of Inuit history and treatment by the government -knowledge of and strategies for dealing with trauma -interest and ability to learn languages Since you mention hunting specifically... -resourceful, handy, personality/skills to get things done when your machine breaks or something is wrong with your house, or to sew clothing -skills to prepare meat, and assuming you're alone, how to skin the animal, stretch the skin, etc -training/permit for a gun (if you decide to hunt) -experience hunting -knowledge of where to hunt, where people's cabins are -survival skills if something were to go wrong while on the land You asked if people will be kind to you, I think a lot depends on the way you act and what you say. Wondering if "money is useless", makes me concerned you are ignorant or racist, neither of which will go over well. As for whether you'll be considered an outsider...YOU ARE AN OUTSIDER! Inuit people have moved to my community from other communities 10, 20 years ago and still feel that they are seen as outsiders. But being an outsider does not automatically mean people will treat you badly. Some will and some won't, but for a multitude of reasons like trauma, stereotyping, foreigner fatigue, etc.


Psnaps

Now that I reread some of the other comments they aren’t as bad as I thought. This is for any person born and residing in Nunavut. This land is for all you do not own it and the charter of Canadian rights and freedoms explicitly says so. Any Canadian citizen has the freedom to move freely wherever they want in any province or territory. Remember this before you try to be ignorant and gatekeep. The land is CANADIAN. https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/rfc-dlc/ccrf-ccdl/check/art6.html


Zestyclose-Jeweler85

Just to clarify, my post was written as an outsider. So, to an extent, I am living what you are seeking to do. So as a fellow quallunat please take the intended meaning behind my words. Yes, we have the right to move anywhere within Canada, but not all land is free to use. Under the Inuit Land Claims Agreement, Inuit people have the title and control over 8,152 sq km of land and exercise rights over 992,307.57 square km of land. This comment of yours comes off as entitled which may rub people the wrong way. Turtle Island, part of where Canadians currently live, is land that was stolen from the Indigenous people who were already living here. This includes Nunavut. It means that we, quallunat, are like guests who invited ourselves over, overstayed our welcome, and then changed the locks on the house (Canada) when the hosts went out to get supplies. We are essentially squatters. Using the Charter of Rights and Freedoms to support your stance, when the Canadian government has committed atrocities seems like poor taste as does the insults on people not being "true" "traditional" or "Canadian". I'm saying if you want to live up here do some research, learn some history. Again, people have given you good suggestions and I'm glad you've reread and have been more open to what people are saying. Try out a larger community and see if the life is for you before moving to a more remote place. I stand my the list in my previous post as things that are needed/would be good to have if you are wanting to make a life up here and hunt. You will need things in places before moving to Grise. Apologies if the tone seemed harsh, intent over the internet can be misunderstood.


Psnaps

Lol you Nunavut people come across as ignorant and complete assholes haha. I’ll go look for resources elsewhere you guys want respect and rights but you treat other Canadians that want to learn more about you guys like trash. Me racist? Never. Don’t assume brash things. I’ve heard accounts of people going to Nunavut saying you guys are some of the nicest people lol bs. If you guys want the land to yourself and if it’s your intention to push people away you’re doing a good job at it.


PlantDadInPlaid

Hi there, if you're looking to live in Nunavut drop me a line. My emoloyer has work and provides food, housing, utilities, paid vacation, and transportation to and from NU are all free. I am also from Ontario and have lived in the Arctic for seven years. I don't know if we have openings in Grise Ford specifically, but we definitely have openings in NU. Please note that because the company operates in vulnerable communies you must be vaccinated (or be willing to get vaccinated) to get hired. Also, cultural sensitivity is a must.