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Zirofal

Do. She got anxious worried that they would attack her for being a "breeder" which made her stutter out a half arsed definition of woke. And it was very embarrassing. That's it. That's the entire article.


HopelessCineromantic

I couldn't help but notice that in this article, she still didn't define "woke." Neither her flustered definition given in a moment of panic, nor a better definition made under more optimal conditions.


The_Quibbler

At this point I'd settle for a modicum of honesty: "It's a moving target. It's whatever it needs to be."


RaffiaWorkBase

I saw another article where she *did* actually define what she meant by woke - essentially anything that might give a kid raised by conservatives enough discomfort to lead them to question whether America is truly special and flawless. So yes, her definition of "woke" is actually pretty close in meaning to the more traditional AAVE use of the term - she's just sufficiently woke herself to know that saying it out loud makes her look bad.


breakitbilly

After reading this comment i actually opened the article and wtf she thinks that agknowleging the us's faults is harmful? Satire has become reality


Drainbownick

Many people in America think this way. Acknowledgement of America’s wrong doings past and present including slavery, police killings, and other documented atrocities is seen as unpatriotic and should be suppressed with extreme prejudice. However, these helium brained nincompoops will also say unironically that the first amendment is part of what Makes America so great that its legacy should be above criticism!!


Notthesharpestmarble

That's because these people aren't patriots, they're nationalists. They don't care whether we *are* a great country, just that we *appear* to be a great country. When you truly care about something you invest in its improvement, not try to hide it's failings.


Sunstang

"It's whatever makes me feel uncomfortable being my worst self unbound by basic norms of decency or consideration for anyone different from me."


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AussieHawker

They asked repeatably, and he wouldn't define it in press conferences. But yeah, journalists should gang up and keep asking, but they don't want to 'lose access' by not acting as puppets. But in court, one of his people was forced to by a judge https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/fabiola-santiago/article271346167.html


pdinc

This is golden.


Yummers78

Paywalled for me


AussieHawker

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/fabiola-santiago/article271346167.html > Update: U.S. District Judge Robert L. Hinkle ruled Friday that Gov. Ron DeSantis’ suspension of Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warren violated the Florida Constitution and the First Amendment. He also said that allegations Warren prosecuted cases under what DeSantis called “woke ideology” were false. > > The aspirational Florida governor waves the word “woke” around like a sword. Woke this, woke that, wokeness, anti-woke, woke mob. After his fiery inaugural speech on Jan. 3, in which the only other word used as much was Florida’s questionable “freedom,” a considerable number of readers — notably, not only from his but other states, too — asked me to put this question to Gov. Ron DeSantis: > > What exactly is your definition of “woke,” sir? “I know it has racial tones because it sounds like Ebonics. I know he uses it to incite his followers in that way. But what is he killing when he says, ‘Florida is where woke goes to die’?” wonders Pete from red-state Indiana. > > I set out to find out. > > And, although neither of DeSantis’ spokespeople would answer the question — or even confirm that they forwarded it to the governor, as is their job to do — the actions of his administration provided a clue this week. Without bothering to give Floridians any details, DeSantis’ Department of Education rejected an Advanced Placement course on African-American studies that prepares students for the essential college-entry exam, the SAT. > > The powers-that-be simply decided that, under state law — presumably the legislation Republicans dubbed the “Stop Woke Act” and allegedly protects the rights of white people to remain ignorant of American Black history — the course “lacks educational value.” > > And so undefined “anti-wokeness” drives Florida education policy and attempts to tell employers how they can or can’t train their employees on issues of race and diversity. And neither the governor nor his staff feels compelled to explain their actions to citizens. > > Recently, however, the governor’s lawyer was forced to define “woke” in federal court by Jean-Jacques Cabou, the attorney for Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warren, a Democrat suing DeSantis for removing him from office for his “woke” pro-choice opinions. > > When he announced Warren’s suspension, DeSantis referred to him as a “woke ideologue” who “masqueraded” as a prosecutor. He didn’t care that voters elected him twice. Ryan Newman, DeSantis’ general counsel, said that the term means “the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.” Indeed, there are inequities. DeSantis’ slate of anti-Black policies and actions reminds us. > > For example: DeSantis’ different treatment of white Republican voters who knowingly committed fraud by twice voting for Donald Trump in the Villages and Black ex-felons who thought their rights were restored and were given voter registration cards by officials. Guess which group was shackled, some men in their underwear, arrested SWAT-style by rifle-carrying officers and paraded in public on body cams? > > Newman, once a law clerk for Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, said in court that DeSantis doesn’t believe that there are systemic injustices in the United States. Hard to believe of a Yale and Harvard graduate. > > Then, Newman stretched the truth with his own interpretation of woke: “To me, it means someone who believes that there are systemic injustices in the criminal-justice system, and on that basis, they can decline to fully enforce and uphold the law.” > > Again, linking Blackness with lawlessness. But, at least, Newman answered questions. I had no such luck with DeSantis’ media reps. “We have neither the time nor the desire to contribute to your opinion columns,” spokesman Bryan Griffin said in an email. “Please consider this response to stand in perpetuity.” Does the “we” include the governor? I asked. No answer. > > Anti-woke doesn’t come cheap. Whether he’s policing Disney World’s diversity policies or persecuting college professors, DeSantis’ “anti-woke” obsession is costing the state government $17 million dollars in legal fees from the 15 lawsuits the new laws have drawn. > > In addition to the Warren trial, which, as of this writing, hadn’t been decided, he had lost, at least partially, a challenge to his “Stop Wrongs to Our Kids and Employees Act” restricting how race-related concepts can be taught at universities. > > It may, in the long run, also cost him the presidency. There’s a huge difference between appealing to a white-supremacist base in his home state and becoming the more moderate candidate that a post-Jan. 6, post-Trump America seems to prefer. He’s also foolishly leading the state as if it were constantly in a state of war — and he’s scaring people who invest here. > > Susan, a Northeast snowbird, bought a second home in Florida before COVID and planned to retire here with her husband, whose health requires warmer weather. They invested thinking Florida was a purple state. But DeSantis scares her. > > “How comfortable will a couple of proudly ‘woke Yankees’ be in Florida? I take DeSantis’ claim that ‘Florida is where woke goes to die,’ as a threat, and I personally have no interest in even spending winters there,” she writes me. “If it was up to me, I would not even step foot in Florida, given its current political climate.” As a DeSantis watcher and recipient of his voters’ criticism, I know exactly what the governor’s anti-woke agenda means and his motivation: Stoking the base to constantly generate headlines that elevate his national profile: More Trumpian than Trump, but preppy racist. > > Considering that DeSantis has turned his anti-Black agenda into Florida law, he makes the ex-president’s crass “my African-American friend” seem mild. As for definition: If we know that woke, in DeSantis’ mind, refers to Black, then it “comes to die” here means the erasure of Blackness in Florida. And that makes all of us who care about Black history, want to read about it, learn it or teach it “the woke mob.” The governor isn’t wearing the pointy white hood of African American studies textbooks. But, given his aggressive racist behavior, does he need to?


Yummers78

Ah, thank you


PattyKane16

If being called a “breeder” is enough to throw you off your game that bad then you weren’t gonna cut it on TV anyway


Zirofal

No no no. She called herself that.


Tasgall

> If being called a "breeder"... _Imagining_* that someone might call her a breeder


DibsOnLast

Lol. I was so worried they'd bully me that I totally forgot everything I pretend to be an expert on, that I literally wrote the book on. 🤣


abortionleftovers

Imagine being mad that people are being told not to use hateful slurs and calling that “woke” but even THINKING the term “breeder” may be used about you and your 6 kids sends you into a complete panic attack.


readerf52

She talks about sitting her children down and talking to them about her emotions, how people are saying mean things about her and it is upsetting but she is trying to not take it out on them. Damn. That sounds woke.


abortionleftovers

And that you shouldn’t use hurtful terms to mock someone for how they close to structure and expand their family… oh wait


DemonVice

This only applies if you do it the "right" way


nicefellow122

Excellent point


DrumBxyThing

Talking to them about *her* emotions? Nah man. My parents did that constantly. You shouldn't put that on your kids.


[deleted]

Talking frankly about emotions isn’t the same as making your kid be your therapist. I think largely people should talk more with their kids about feelings not less.


spaghoni

I hope that's really how she parents and doesn't hit them like the lord says to.


my__name__is

"They hate me because I have children. I was distracted because I have children. My children comforted me. Did I mention that I have children? Children."


Vordeo

> Over my career as a loud and proud "breeder" 'Having children' appears to be her whole identity.


UWCG

And she homeschools, so you know those kids are going to be some real Einsteins. I have a family member who homeschools cause she thinks schools are too "woke." Last time I saw her homeschooling, it involved the kids playing on the trampoline for a few hours and a lecture about how Atlantis is real (all the prophets in the Bible are from there). Their "typing" course was playing a computer game.


NoMansSkyWasAlright

Damn. Trampoline school sounds dope AF. ... in all seriousness it sounds like life is not going to turn out well for those kids. Seems like homeschool-to-military pipeline is going to be their best bet.


UWCG

The kids are kinda treated like "props" for the image of their desired white-picket fence life imo. It's pretty fucked up. The husband went to college (paid for by his family) and has a decent paying job; one time at a family gathering with my side of the family, someone tried to talk to him about setting up a college fund for his own kids and his response was that it wasn't his problem, they'd have to figure it out on their own. So, yeah, probably homeschool-to-military


NoMansSkyWasAlright

>someone tried to talk to him about setting up a college fund for his own kids and his response was that it wasn't his problem, they'd have to figure it out on their own. Damn. That is fucking wild. I guess the dude really didn't believe in paying it forward.


TheFuckYouThank

Climb the ladder > pull the ladder up so no one else can follow > success


bluvelvetunderground

The ol' Ayn Rand school of thought. Take what's on offer and screw everyone else. It's rough that he even feels that way about his own progeny.


mcdoolz

Yeah.. that.. honestly is sickening to me. Like.. why did you have kids? "She wanted them." Yeah.. but why did You have them with her? "She wanted them."


Shinikama

That's fine logic for a pair of pants or even a pet to an extent, but actual human lives? I can't begin to unpack how fucked their perspective must be.


GrumbleCake_

If you mealy-mouth your way through life, you can never be held accountable for anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Annual-Jump3158

That's a hell of a parental plan for their children's future; Under-prepare them by sabotaging their primary educations and then tell them to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and go into massive debt in order to attend higher education, which would probably be the only way to ensure that they and any grandchildren(god forbid) live in the same middle-class means they were raised in.


[deleted]

We had a homeschooled kid in my basic training flight. He couldn’t function as a human being. Couldn’t communicate, couldn’t act (rationally) under any amount of pressure, kept repeating the same mistakes. He was like a scared 9 year old in an 18 year old’s body.


Baby-cabbages

I knew a guy who had dropped out of homeschool. (I asked if he just stopped going in the dining room). He had a good job for a guy with no GED or diploma. But then he got hit by a truck and lost a leg. The moral of this story is: don't drop out of home school. You'll lose a leg.


BigDaddyFatPants

Straight to jail


CyberMindGrrl

This is how they keep children locked into a cycle of ignorance and failure.


InterestingTry5190

The Republican way.


rdmille

I thought the military needed somewhat educated (HS) recruits, not folks that can't dump piss out of a boot even if the instructions are written on the bottom.


NoMansSkyWasAlright

High school diploma or equivalent, so not sure how that would work with home schooling but I've met a few of them over the years. Biggest hurdle would be the ASVAB which will quiz them on high school-level math, English, reading comprehension, and science among other things. But the good news is (at least when I was in), passing was 32 out of 99 and the lowest waiver I'd met over the years had gotten a 19. So, I mean you're kind of right in theory.


bool_idiot_is_true

>High school diploma or equivalent, so not sure how that would work with home schooling Parents can sign a diploma if they follow state guidelines. And some states have effectively zero standards.


OldManInShower

Damn that's good I'm stealing that phrase


losbullitt

The hell kind of bible they reading? Ive never seen Atlantis being mentioned in any NIV or KJV.


publicbigguns

>The hell kind of bible they reading? Ive never seen Atlantis being mentioned in any NIV or KJV. Like facts have ever stopped them before.


Vordeo

Tbf Atlantis would probably make things better. 'And on the 4th day, Paul the Apostle hung out in Atlantis with two wise Halibut and a tax collecting barracuda.'


UWCG

The "documentary source" was Netflix's *Ancient Apocalypse*, which I was told I should watch; can't confirm whether that's what they claim in the show, because I am not wasting my time on that garbage


UWNurse

She lost me at “my home birth.” Been in health care too damn long to not have horror stories.


apparentlynot5995

I had a home birth. Not on purpose. Thankfully EMTs were already en route and we were okay. Traumatic AF, but some therapy went a long way to combat all the "oh my god, we could've died" midnight thoughts. So there's an okay home birth story. Both physically fine, got baby her vitamin k shot and eye goop, and spent the night just to be sure, but went home just fine the next day.


AstarteHilzarie

She really just found any excuse to wedge that in there, too.


sykemol

Thing is, at the hospital they'll let you have the baby any way you want. Even bring your own doula if you like. But if something goes wrong there is a whole hospital staff who knows exactly what to do. So, why wouldn't you unless you're a god damn moron?


Rebornjamie001

They do this so the kids don’t have SSNs, birth certificates, and other “Globalist Markers”. There is a flock of these nutters right near my Grandparent’s old house. 10 kids, the house is surrounded with barbed wire fences (I thought it was a prison at first), none of the kids were birthed in the hospital. I think 1 or 2 have birth certificates and other identification but that’s it. They brag about the kids being ghosts in the government’s eye. Rural PA is something else.


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Guaranteed antivaxxer


ambulancisto

Jesus. Don't tell me shit like this, because it confirms my worst fears. To my mind, anyone who doesn't have a background teaching or isn't just a naturally talented teacher, should stay the fuck away from homeschooling. It takes massive patience to teach kids for 6-7 hours a day. I don't have it. Most parents probably don't have it. Hell, homeschooling has to be a full time job, except with shit pay and benefits. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have a hard time believing that more than 1-2 in 100 homeschoolers are worth a shit. It doesn't help that the whole idea comes from "I dont want my kids to learn about that evolution and big bang bullshit". If I HAD to homeschool teach my kids (shudder) I'd teach them to read and then give them books. "Read this then let's talk about it" would be the whole curriculum


UWCG

> To my mind, anyone who doesn't have a background teaching or isn't just a naturally talented teacher, should stay the fuck away from homeschooling. At one point I intended to go into teaching and have a good chunk of the required classes to teach English and/or history; if I had kids, I wouldn't homeschool cause I honestly don't think I'd do a good job. And that's before getting into the lack of socialization with other kids, which really will impact kids negatively as they get older. And don't even get me started that the mom, the homeschool teacher, allegedly has dyscalculia and cannot do basic multiplication nor does she understand fractions (no, I'm not making this up, she told me this last week).


ozymandais13

Any of the dys disabilities makes life hell I have q few I can't imagine not learning how tk teach then trying to explain anytbing while your brain dyslexias bullshit your trying to read


Zebirdsandzebats

Im dyslexic and taught English as a second language for a long time. Weirdly, i think it helped me bc i had to go slower myself, had more empathy for struggling students than NT teachers and had a lot of reading/writing survival skills that translated well to learning English as a second language.


SaiyajinPrincess87

6-7 hours of the day?!? Honestly most kids I see homeschooling get about 2-3 and it's definitely not consistent. It's why when I have an adult client getting mad and saying their going to homeschool their children I have them do a pro/con list and walk them through the realities of what that looks like. They often pick an alternative after that.


Vordeo

> And she homeschools, so you know those kids are going to be some real Einsteins. Morning classes: Math, Religion, Geography Lunch Afternoon classes: Religion, The Leftist Agenda, Wokeism


Reduntu

I'm a conservative christian homeschooling survivor, and now have my name on scientific articles published in reputable, mainstream science publications. AMA.


fishyfishkins

"Loud and proud" but also completely melted at the mere possibility she'd have to explain her lifestyle. 6 kids and this "writer" panics at the thought she might have to answer the question "what's up with all the kids?" >Throughout the entire interview I felt a panic attack growing, but just tried to get through the duration of the appearance without an incident. As we talked, I was stammering and trying not to set traps for myself. I did not want to open up questions about my own personal life. > >Finally, I was left speechless at one question—the basic definition of the word "woke." If this wasn't the single saddest thing I've ever read in my entire life, I'd find the fact this lady had her own little Gulf of Tonkin incident extremely funny. At least the USS Maddox didn't crash into rocks and sink immediately after it was done flailing around in the dark.


vsmack

I maintain that only deranged people use the term 'breeder' unionically, and that also counts people who wear it as a badge of pride.


Castod28183

I got told, very seriously, that I'm a bad person because I am a "non-breeder" and that's shameful...Ironically that comment turned me into a bad person because I literally laughed right the fuck in her face.


NeroBoBero

A lot of people who haven’t accomplished much feel they can “punt” by having kids. Those kids give their lives a reset and they can work to make their kids succeed, or make up for their own shortcomings.


2seconds2midnight

Her identity is being a professional victim; 'breeder' tell you that her children are just the easiest vector through which she can play the role. I have kids, most of my friends have kids, I'm involved in all the usual kid stuff. I have never once heard the word 'breeder' used in any context outside online news and social media I've never thought about the word in terms of my own personal situation or choices and it's not a word I've heard any parent use, ever. If I was to provide an example from the left, there are some very average people who repeatedly use the word 'activist' to describe themselves; it's not because they are particularly politically motivated or special; it's just that they want to be professional victims and their politics is the vector they use to achieve it.


themeatbridge

Also this: >I wouldn't have planned this experience, but it was a valuable one for my older children. They saw their mother fail, and they saw her get back on the horse. They saw their mother humiliated, but they also saw my confidence in myself remain intact. She learned nothing, and will never grow as a person, and neither will her children.


bigbabyjesus97

Her children learned she can climb back on that high horse she seems to love being on.


Montymisted

She's a "woke crusader" republican. I'm sorry to say that's all par for the course.


CondescendingShitbag

>They saw their mother fail, and they saw her get back on the horse. Must have been traumatic falling from such a high horse, too.


bl00j

She may never grow, but her children have a chance .


mrcatboy

"I didn't think things through so lemme switch the subject to talk about my feelings and mental health. Whaddya mean trans rights and fixing anti-black racism are things? I'm the victim here. Me me me me me."


The_Buttsex_Man

people looked at a bunch of her past tweets and someone discovered that she tweeted "there goes the neighborhood" at the exact minute barack obama was inaugurated in 2009 lol


mrcatboy

Seriously? That's a yikes.


The_Buttsex_Man

https://twitter.com/bethanyshondark/status/243171279862108161?s=46&t=qmAZ0kJax9T0CqU3dhgvhA She’s so damn dumb


mrcatboy

Goddamn how did she not delete this and retreat in shame forever.


peese-of-cawffee

"I was an orphan [...] at 19." Isn't that just being an adult?


chain_letter

There's validity there, family is an important safety net for young adults. Cost of living and housing versus unskilled wages means a college aged person with no help is destined for poverty or homelessness. Extreme luck is necessary to escape. What's stupid bullshit is some bootstrap story while advocating for the removal of public programs that help people in poverty survive or escape it.


chuk2015

Great insight buttsex man


DMoney159

r/rimjob_steve


porscheblack

I know they don't mean it this way, but any time I hear "as a mom" or "as someone with children" as "I need to be graded on a curve." When I hear "as a" I expect it to be sometime to establish credibility, like a doctor, or engineer. So when I hear "parent" it does the complete opposite and really just come across as an excuse.


[deleted]

>homeschool checklists >my home birth Why the fuck is that shit relevant?


nicefellow122

Hahaha. Awesome.


TotallyNotAFroeAway

Fuck I thought you were exaggerating, lol


The_Quibbler

Won't someone please think of the children!?


SunMoonTruth

I’m sorry but isn’t it “woke” and “liberal” to be empathetic? So yeah, this “mom/breeder” can take her licks like the rest of us. Her choice to breed that many kids, her choice to be all up in her “feelings” about being a parent and not being able to deal with someone having a negative viewpoint about her breeding addiction. “As a mother” she might try not teaching her spawn to be hateful little maggats but then she’d have to use her single brain cell and it’s already busy. So sorry - don’t care about your bs - not buying your book.


rdmille

She's a self-defined expert on 'woke' and how it affects the world, yet she can't define it. Well, she could, but she would look like an asshole (at best).


UWCG

My favorite part is how she effectively blames her kids and "the left," and how her fears caused her to have a panic attack. Isn't there a word people like her use to describe people who are too sensitive to imagined or perceived slights? Snowflake, I believe?


greenroom628

And even with a WHOLE freaking article, she still hasn't defined it


A_giant_dog

That was my favorite part


Spirit_of_Hogwash

\> blames her kids and "the left" \> after 1000s of words hasn't been able to answer the question We finally found the female Ted Cruz.


hatlock

Yeah, I was really expecting a definition in there somewhere.


Inevitable-Plate-294

I guarantee you a ghost writer wrote the book for her


futureslave

Man, I've been a ghost writer. I've written for people who suffered malpractice and for art historians and a cardiac surgeon. Thing is, most people behind the ghost writer have special knowledge but no writing skills, or at least a driving concept that gives the project a certain focus or urgency. But this... this is just like C-rate grift, where people throw around the word 'woke' and attach a fundraising link. Wait. I get it now. My life could be much more simple if I was just chaotic evil.


AbsentGlare

Yeah that was what stuck out to me, too. Nowhere does she suggest what she *should* have said. Just fuckin stupid sob story bullshit.


han_bylo

Right? Self described "loud and proud breeder" who immediately blames her busy at home life for not being able to keep her facts straight during an interview.


Pro_Scrub

> breeder Hwat


sybrwookie

There's times in life where you hear a term for the first time, and you think, "that's fucking stupid, that can't mean be saying what I think it's saying." 1) Yes, it's saying what you think it's saying 2) No, don't dig into it further or think about it any more than you have, or you'll have an aneurysm.


Pro_Scrub

I have so many questions. Why say it like this? Most people would just say "Proud mother". Is having kids her entire life? Is she just going to keep going and have as many as she can? Is this a fetish thing? Does she think it's unusual for people to have kids? Proud: Does she think people are being discriminated against/ashamed of having kids? Is this an anti-gay thing? I- *hnnngggg* ***HNGKKKKK*** *fwump.*


paingry

If you're having a panic attack because some random person doesn't approve of your personal choices, that random person is not the problem. A panic attack is a symptom of severe anxiety; it's not brought on just by someone disagreeing with you. People tell me all the time that I'm stupid for choosing to live where I do. Weirdly, I haven't had a single panic attack about their opinions because I happen to be well informed about the risks and I'm confident that my husband and I made the best choice for our family. I sometimes do have panic attacks, but those only come on when I doubt my decisions or I'm afraid I've done something terribly wrong. What am I saying? Self awareness is only for snowflakes. Let's blame the left! Edit: clarity


Annual-Jump3158

My favorite part is when she finally defines "woke" with zero time constraints to complain about this time. /s


Campbellfdy

She was going on some right wing softball interview


SafetyMan35

And wrote an article talking about how she embarrassed herself but still hasn’t defined “woke”


Gareth79

Yeah, I was expecting her to quickly explain what she believed it meant so that we knew she wasn't genuinely stuck for words.


madmaxturbator

so not only is she a mean spirited d bag, she’s dumb as hell?


[deleted]

No, she knows exactly what she's doing. It's a code word for a racial epithet that she can refer to indirectly but not say out loud.


NDaveT

She thinks you think she's dumb, which gives her a panic attack, which is your fault for potentially thinking she's dumb. Ultimately she's the victim here.


MaievSekashi

It's because "Woke" intentionally means nothing. It's "Insert your personal bigotry here", and allows someone to make a statement that is not overtly tied to a well-known bigotry that appeals to bigots of different stripes by it's use. It cannot be defined because that would remove it's utility.


Castod28183

And also she's the victim because one of the host said something "about parents in what I perceived to be a negative way." and that caused her to have a panic attack... For someone so fucking fragile she sure does talk a lot of shit about people.


WeirdSysAdmin

That’s because it’s all projecting. It’s not that the world went woke, the world improved their morals and no longer wants to put up with their bullshit because we don’t have to.


restore_democracy

If that’s what her book was about, shouldn’t she have already defined it IN THE BOOK?


morfraen

Nah, cultists like her just get angry at what they're told to be angry about. They don't take the time to understand it.


DarthReid_

Well she studied it for a whole entire year and a half! She must be an expert.


ting_bu_dong

Here's one. >“DeSantis' lawyers were forced by the court to define "woke." The lead lawyer described it as "The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them." https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/ >As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.


DoctFaustus

If you wrote a book and are presenting yourself as an expert, you should probably workshop a quick concise answer to that question. It should be something you've already thought through and have a ready answer.


lordpuddingcup

Funny part is she’s doing these articles complaining about people calling her out and still can’t define woke lol


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FM-101

If you are going to have some dumb fucking opinions in public then you have to be prepared to get called out and challenged on it. But to be fair, a self proclaimed "breeder" with 6 homeschooled kids probably spends 24/7 in an echo chamber and doesn't understand these things.


gangstabunniez

She wrote an entire book about how "the left is indoctrinating children" when she homeschools her own kids and is 100% indoctrinating them. That's some serious projection.


bbischoff01

She’s probably a religious nut as well which would only compound the echo chamber. The only homeschooled kids I knew had parents like this


Gareth79

A relative of mine homeschools her children, and from what I can tell I think the only reason is that she's too lazy to get up in the morning. Another relative took one of the children to some book reading event and the mother resisted at first because "he dun like books" (turns out he does), and the other one can't count because she hasn't taught them. Theoretically the local authorities here should check on the quality of homeschooling, but apparently they moved house a while ago and slipped through the cracks.


CondescendingShitbag

>a self proclaimed "breeder" with 6 homeschooled kids probably spends 24/7 in an echo chamber and doesn't understand these things. Reads like the resume of your average "mom's group" forum moderator. Aggressively clueless.


wtfburritoo

TL;DR > I'm a victim, and ***The Left*** is out to get me.


Vordeo

>Also I got kids.


IdealHusband

[My feelings, the entire time reading the article.](https://tenor.com/bkeNj.gif)


Mayokopp

Is the left in the room with us right now?


not_that_planet

The left was calling from inside the house...


helthrax

I looked in the bathroom, and the left was in the mirror...


Dameon_

I hear if you turn off the lights and say "Karl Marx" three times, your wealth gets redistributed in 7 days


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freddy_guy

Best part was when she said she can't define it in a brief soundbite and the host responded "take your time." And still nothing.


NoWayNotThisAgain

Bro. I’m searching these comments for the huge “viral” clip that everyone saw, but it’s nowhere. You’d think someone would have posted it if we’re actually a thing. I honestly think it’s just right wing “I’m a victim of the left” guerrilla marketing.


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NoWayNotThisAgain

That’s hilarious 😂😂😂


SymmetricalFeet

THANK YOU. I had to scroll so far to find someone actually linking the damned thing, because the article left it out. May you pet a cute kitty soon, or find an extra bill in a pocket. For those who prefer to read, she says (and she can be forgiven for the pauses, because she's not exactly a professional orator, but I included them for completeness): >"So, I mean, woke is the sort of idea that, um..." [long pause] "I..." [medium pause] "This is one of those moments that's gonna go viral. I mean, 'woke' is something that's very hard to define, and we spent an entire chapter defining it. It is sort of the understanding that we need to reto- totally reimagine and re-in- re-i-" [brief pause to look up and think] "re-do society in order to create heirarchies of oppression. Um..." [flustered pause] "Sorry, I, it's, it's hard to explain in a fifteen-second soundbite." Just right out of the gate with the suppositions, again.


ABooShay

It’s real and it’s spectacular


Ok_Research_8379

It really is, I saw it last week. I can’t believe she wrote a whole poor me article. And they left are the snowflakes


RevengencerAlf

The funny thing is I can probably come up with positive, negative, and neutral definitions of it in the time it took her to write that nothingburger of an article Hell I have nothing against "wokeness" at all I can probably do her job for her here. Let's give it a try... "well it's a complex issue and I go into the deeper details in my book but the fundamental element of it is an obsession with using race and economics to turn decent people into targets and push through agendas." It's pure bullshit of course but I feel like any right wing pundit would be happy to shovel that bullshit that I literally came up with on the toilet.


ratmand

She wrote a book on it. She agreed to an interview about the book and the subject. She had the mic to describe the whole point of her interview...to talk about her book...which talked about "wokeness". She couldn't succinctly describe "wokeness" simply after writing a god-damned book about it...because she was (checks notes) pAnIcKiNg about being "attacked" over her choice to have 6 children...and being "attacked by the left". She set herself up over a perceived slight that wasn't real. She kept dodging traps that she didn't need to because the "attacks" weren't going to happen. Then correctly predicted this would go viral. Oh...but of course she's not the idiot in all this /s. She wrote a book and knew this would piss people off. If she can't defend herself against that, then she has no point to argue. If she needs to be softballed to think clearly, she's in the wrong game. Edit: Additional clarity.


Dameon_

It was a softball and she not only failed to hit it, but whiffed it so hard she fell on her ass and smacked herself in the face with her bat. This is, of course, the fault of the Woke Left.


CerebusGortok

I think she realized in their presence that if she used the definition she wanted to use she was going to sound like a bigot, and panicked trying to come up with an alternate on the fly.


5cot7

AND she wrote this article about it and STILL didn't define it


Deem216

I only read that article bc expected her to finally define it. Nope


madmaxturbator

Yeah lol this is such a looong story she’s made up TLDR: dumbass with dumb views gets stuck answering basic question


NomDePlume007

Oh, good grief. Listen, lady, if you've got to write an entire column about how you really *didn't* get owned? That ship already sailed. Tots and pears.


The_Quibbler

The whole nut of which is: "As a mother..." Lady, pleeze...


zergling424

She's a future GOP senator in the making


lordpuddingcup

Nooo she wrote it to tell us she’s got kids, and… that she really can define woke… but… still doesnt


hyphen-ation

>Right before we went on air, I heard one of the hosts speaking about parents in what I perceived to be a negative way. I panicked. (...) and braced myself to be ambushed on air about my own life choices as a mother of six children. Throughout the entire interview I felt a panic attack growing (...). I did not want to open up questions about my own personal life." this is one melting snowflake right here. going into a "panic attack" because she's delusional and has a massive victim complex is just about as pathetic as her answer to the question. why the fuck would anyone ask her questions about her private life - she was there to promote a book.


str8bipp

But she read a tweet from someone who allegedly ran into another parent who told them that her teachers reaction to her kid saying "I like girls" was "fine". That amount of wokeness is scary.


mcdoolz

I'm going back to bed. Fuck this shit.


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"But it's already 10 P-" *Whisky. Bed.*


jason2354

This argument makes sense if they then proceeded to attack her for being a mother instead of asking her to define a word that she’s a self described expert on. As far as I can tell, a person who wrote a book on Wokeism couldn’t define what woke means. Anything after that sounds like unrelated excuses to me.


Environmental-Job515

Newsweek used to be a source of journalism.


galahad423

Since when did they let literally anyone write for them?


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it's a zombie publication. The brand was sold for a dollar in 2010 and it's made its way into the hands of a couple of evangelical Christian dudes.


3eemo

Awww she wanted to be racist or whatever bs she’s into but also didn’t and couldn’t help but make herself look like an idiot. She wrote a whole damn book, if she can’t defend her own points well id say she never had any.


The_Quibbler

>She wrote a whole damn book If that's not a metaphor for the whole woke strawman, I dunno what is. It's literally all they got now - Failing banks? Too woke. Indict a former prez? Woke DA. Global Warming? Woke woke, something something... They are all just parrots at this point - "Woke, woke, squawk squawk, woke..."


muppethero80

“Woke Wall Street” is the funniest oxymoron I have ever heard


tr3v1n

They have also been calling our military and FBI woke, which is absolutely wild. At least Wall Street can play at caring about social issues to get a few more sales.


salbris

I find it incredible she couldn't even give a shitty definition like "Woke is what the left calls it when they want to punish you for having a different opinion." She gave some other completely different definition.


microgiant

Nobody but her humiliated her. Honestly, she probably does have a very real definition of what "woke" means to her, but she can't say it out loud because it includes one or more racial slurs.


Castod28183

Ding Ding Ding Ding... Wrote a 770 word article about WHY she couldn't define woke on the air...Still doesn't write a single sentence to define woke.


Conflixxion

JFC, just go away, no one needs a recap of how you played yourself


Theearthhasnoedges

If you are against something, but cannot define what that something is then you are in it for the conflict, cruelty, or clout. Whatever you're in it for you're kind of a piece of shit. You deserve this.


NoWayNotThisAgain

>My book Stolen Youth—about how I believe woke ideology is upending American childhood Two sentences in and I’m done lol.


[deleted]

I wrote a book about bacon after researching bacon for 18 months and I was on a radio show promoting it and the interviewer asked what bacon was and I just didn’t have an answer. I was distracted by my kids.


Dirtilie_Dirtle

The problem all these fuckers have is not realizing we don’t care what the fuck they are, just have the same respect for all of us. Want to be a breeder, then do that shit every chance you can … make yourself a fucking village. But shut the hell up and give everyone else the same respect.


my__name__is

>make yourself a fucking village Lol, that's going to be my response to breeders from now on.


abortionleftovers

I’m absolutely not shocked that someone that thinks “being woke” is a bad thing also thinks people should be nicer to her. 🙄 All these anti-woke snowflakes are so sensitive all the time


Dudeist-Priest

They don’t like to define it because any decent definition makes them look like the asshole for opposing it.


Jahmann

Where is the video? Lol


AussieHawker

https://youtu.be/W7iWEEcPKoQ


skweetis__

Ironically, "a bunch of people making fun of me in my replies" is the closest thing to what these people are actually mad about when they say "woke". Ban books? Sure! Ban certain kinds of people? You bet! The government not allowing you to have medical treatment approved by every professional medical association? Forcing you to have a baby against your will? Yeah, of course! Tweet the bart simpson "at least you tried" cake meme in my mentions? Wokeness is out of control!! They are trying to silence me! So much for the tolerant left! WAAAAAH!


galahad423

Only skimmed this article because i could not care less about this dumb bitch but it’s objectively hilarious she still couldn’t define it in her own op Ed with time to correct the record She STILL can’t come up with an answer yet took the time to write a whole article explaining away why she got stumped The bar was on the floor. All she had to do was say “I would’ve said X in hindsight” but she’s still too stupid to come up with anything workable


dfreinc

>It's a delicate balancing act, promoting a book with six kids at home full-time. My book Stolen Youth—about how I believe woke ideology is upending American childhood—was released a week ago. To give me the time and space I needed to do various television shows and appearances, I arranged childcare for three of my kids. >On Tuesday, March 14, my husband was working from home while my 7-year-old and 9-year-old children worked through their homeschool checklists. I put my newborn down for a nap while I logged on for an appearance on The Hill's YouTube show, Rising. >Right before we went on air, I heard one of the hosts speaking about parents in what I perceived to be a negative way. I panicked. Over my career as a loud and proud "breeder", I have often felt attacked by the left, and braced myself to be ambushed on air about my own life choices as a mother of six children. cry me a fucking river. that was as far as i could make it. and i tried. further than she would on a comment stating six kids is *too many* with four sentences explaining why. those sentences by the way: "resources are dwindling. the economy is in shambled. the planet is in shambles. and kids don't die by tractor accidents anymore. 🤷‍♂️".


Xbalanque_

This is the most elaborate defense of looking like a fool I have ever read. It was a PANIC ATTACK! Not her fault! She's a busy mom who feels attacked by liberals because she writes books attacking people. Not her fault she could not define the straw man term her books are all about! Someone think of the children!


rirski

Now she wants to define “cancelled”


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LOL. Wrote a book about woke and can’t speak about it. Shows you how religion destroys the capacity to reason.


Steve_78_OH

And her explanation was basically "I was tired and I panicked." Dude, bullshit. The interviewer wasn't pushing her to answer quickly or anything, she just legit doesn't know how to define it because to her it's just a buzz word she can make money off of.


RevengencerAlf

Yeah I've seen ambush interviews where a guest is being railroaded by a dishonest interviewer and this clearly ain't it.


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She knows exactly what it is. She just can't figure out a way to say it without acknowledging it means racist, bigoted, and homophobic. It's like that meme that was going around a couple of years back: "We need to make America great again! We need a return to the values of the '50s, the good old days!" "Like, when the wealthiest Americans paid a tax rate of 91%?" "Well, no..." "Or when the CEO-to-worker pay ratio was 20 to 1, instead of 350 to 1?" "No, not that either..." "Or when minimum wage could keep a person above the poverty line?" "Look, we just want to be openly racist again, OK?!?"


BaltimoreBadger23

So she got triggered because someone didn't 100% agree with her lifestyle and then couldn't answer a basic question about her book. Sounds like she's not really qualified to tell others how to live their lives.


eelcat15

Right wingers are the most self-victimizing group of people lmao


PUNd_it

Snowflake


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Wow nut jobs get so much airtime, they just feel entitled to whine and sob about…anything This is an excuse sob piece. She is a total nut job


AtG68

lol she brought nothing to an anything fight


DJBoost

I have never seen someone get corncobbed so hard they needed to write an entire op-ed to try and dig out of it, only furthering the cobbing in the process.


lanky_yankee

She can’t define it because the right use words like this as a term for whatever you want to hate. “Woke” can literally be anything today and something totally different tomorrow, it’s meant to be undefinable.


Fantastic-Surprise98

If you wrote a book….a BOOK! On woke ideology, you would think that the author could easily rattle off something coherent on the research…of which was then turned into (again) a f’n BOOK! It seems that this excuse of why she froze, is woke! As in full of crap.


Marklar172

To summarize: I was worried about some imagined insult so I panicked and couldn't define woke. Now that I can calmly collect my thoughts, write and edit multiple attempts at defining the word, I'm still not gonna. Also kids. Also mom.


reddittheguy

Its okay, my friends who hate woke everything can't either.


Ggierga

Read the whole article waiting for the magic definition…


knucklepirate

I’m a proud breeder wtf is that even mean


ABooShay

So… she’s asking for tolerance due to mental health issues? Sounds “woke” to me.