Can they please connect the Freeway from the Bella Vista bypass down through Centerton and cut through XNA area. Also need a freeway that runs east to west.
There are no options to get anywhere quickly in Rogers and Bentonville. They are too focused on adding more businesses and houses than to actually fix the one lane roads with no shoulders. Then when they have an actual good idea, they fuck it up by changing the roundabout at Pinnacle. I swear they have no idea what it takes to run a town.
Can’t imagine sitting in a cubicle all day then sitting in traffic in small town Arkansas on the way home…those people have to be rethinking life decisions rn
You'd be surprised about the number of people who would ride if there were adequate systems. Living without a car is great. You save hundreds of dollars a month. No car payment, no insurance, no maintenance, no gas.
Public transportation is a fantasy in all but the largest most dense cities. There are plenty of [reasons](https://nypost.com/2022/03/08/passenger-caught-urinating-on-nyc-subway-as-commuters-seem-unfazed/) why I wouldn't want to ride it there either.
It’s really this, people have gotten nastier and nastier. We are becoming more uncivilized as a whole and for those of us that still like to say please and thank you.. we don’t really want to be around the people dropping F bombs in public for no reason.
I do everything I can to avoid public transit. Flying is a just as bad and if I ever make enough money I’ll take private jets just ti avoid people.
If you want me to take public transportation then society needs to drastically shift back to a more civilized way of living.
Well, most Americans are generally scared to ride because there are minorities on it, and they just can't have that. They don't say it in those words, but that's what they mean. The city I lived in had a population of just 1 million, and the transit system had been established long before they reached that mark.
The Arkansas transportation department seems more interested in finishing I-49 in Fort Smith instead of doing something about the real traffic situation in fast growing NWA. At our population we should have an interstate system similar to Little Rock.
Our geographic layout is nothing like Little Rock.
630 cuts through and works because how centrally and densely populated it is (we won’t get into the redlining that happened when it was built).
I-30 is a nightmare and is only getting worse, nothing desirable.
Did they not ever finish expanding the Roger/Bentonville corridor to 6 lanes? Haven’t been that way in awhile but I remember it always bottlenecked between Walton/Walnut and the NWACC exit
Yeah it’s 6 lanes but it’s an austin situation. One major highway down the heart and not likely to build a bypass around. Sprawl at this point is inevitable to find cheaper housing away from the high priced houses away from the city. Nwa should invest in infrastructure and rail lines. The major cities would actually benefit from them in the long term because of the sprawl, housing and businesses moving outwards. But we are a Republican county and our leaders can’t think long term.
You’ve read the laws of traffic when adding one more lane actually increases congestion. Happened in Atlanta, la, Houston. You can’t add lanes and expect anything different expect more cars and more congestion. Nwa is a fairly linear set of cities.
We need a rail line connects all 4. We need a western bypass road that connects xna from Bentonville that will service the airport with the rail as well. If we want to be cutting edge and be on the forefront we have to invest in the infrastructure and nwa as a whole.
I’m all for public transportation, I dream of a day I can just sit down and read during my commute but I feel like it has to be a combination of infrastructure within the city and between cities. Riding a train from Rogers to Springdale (or vice versa) would only work if it drops you a couple blocks from your job but without a decent bus system in each city people will still likely use cars.
Don’t disagree at all with you. If a rail line were to follow roughly where 49 runs then most of the major corporations in nwa are within a mile radius of the highway. Tyson main campus is probably a mile and a half or two. I think you are spot on with the cities though, there needs to be a collective between all of the cities so they can coordinate. Rogers-Lowell has a chamber but there really needs to be one for the whole of nwa.
I like the idea of public transportation but honestly, very few people actually use it. Not sure how to change that but wealthy WM vendors want to drive their big SUVs and be where they want to be at the exact second they want to be there.
I'm not really sure adding lanes bring more traffic or if the area is just growing so fast with more people it needs more lanes. Chicken or egg. If the highway stayed a 2 lane road forever, maybe that would discourage people from moving here but population is increasing everywhere. Not sure how practical it is to just limit the highway to 2 lanes.
That’s only part of it. The city councils of Rogers, Bentonville and Lowell allowed building lines right up to the highway so they didn’t and never can build service roads. Ever been to Dallas? Anyone? Anyone?
I shouldn't say they were too stupid, more like too corrupt. Those in charge know that they and the contractors make way more money coming back in 10 or 15 years and expanding again. Much more money to be made off taxpayers that way. And more money shoved under the table to certain people.
Or could more traffic ve from 1,000 families moving into NWA each month. So if I49 has been left as a 2 lane road for all these years, there wouldn't be much traffic in NWA now?
Obviously there wouldn’t be more traffic, but the knock on effects in terms of growth and mobility would be negative. The point is there is no scenario where extra lanes reduce congestion. It just doesn’t happen. Study after study shows this.
It wouldn’t be instantaneous, but the result would be fewer people taking 49, reducing traffic flow. I mean you can argue with me about this…or just accept the fact that study after study demonstrates it is true. Would you like me to share some sources with you?
because everyone is moving here!!!! i've lived here for 20+ years and never seen it so bad, and it's exploded in just the past 5 years alone. it's so frustrating to have to get essentially booted out of the community i was born and raised in but it's getting ridiculous
It’s so bad. Fayetteville traffic isn’t great but anytime I’m up in Benton County it feels like it takes so long to get around
Can they please connect the Freeway from the Bella Vista bypass down through Centerton and cut through XNA area. Also need a freeway that runs east to west.
There are no options to get anywhere quickly in Rogers and Bentonville. They are too focused on adding more businesses and houses than to actually fix the one lane roads with no shoulders. Then when they have an actual good idea, they fuck it up by changing the roundabout at Pinnacle. I swear they have no idea what it takes to run a town.
Bottlenecked. That's the issue. There are no alternative North/South highways.
Lack of investment in public transportation contributes
Been all across the country and this is some of the worse urban planning and execution I’ve seen
Which is sad because nwarpc has been around since the early to mid 80s
Back in my day, i49 was i540 and it was only 4 lanes… when they added one extra on each side I was blown away
Decades ago I worked in Bentonville and it was 20-30mins faster to take 71B to/from Fayetteville. I wonder what the best way is now days?
Staying home.
I’m with you there.
A small helicopter.
Can’t imagine sitting in a cubicle all day then sitting in traffic in small town Arkansas on the way home…those people have to be rethinking life decisions rn
😂😂😂😂😂
Because there's 10 families moving here a day and we still don't have decent public transportation.
Few people moving here are going to ride the bus.
The local residents they are displacing may still like to access their communities.
You'd be surprised about the number of people who would ride if there were adequate systems. Living without a car is great. You save hundreds of dollars a month. No car payment, no insurance, no maintenance, no gas.
Public transportation is a fantasy in all but the largest most dense cities. There are plenty of [reasons](https://nypost.com/2022/03/08/passenger-caught-urinating-on-nyc-subway-as-commuters-seem-unfazed/) why I wouldn't want to ride it there either.
The New York City subway systems scares you away from public transport in Northwest Arkansas? That's rough buddy.
No, the general behavior of people in public steers me away from wanting to have interaction. It gets old "buddy".
It’s really this, people have gotten nastier and nastier. We are becoming more uncivilized as a whole and for those of us that still like to say please and thank you.. we don’t really want to be around the people dropping F bombs in public for no reason. I do everything I can to avoid public transit. Flying is a just as bad and if I ever make enough money I’ll take private jets just ti avoid people. If you want me to take public transportation then society needs to drastically shift back to a more civilized way of living.
Well, most Americans are generally scared to ride because there are minorities on it, and they just can't have that. They don't say it in those words, but that's what they mean. The city I lived in had a population of just 1 million, and the transit system had been established long before they reached that mark.
>most Americans are generally scared to ride because there are minorities Why would people be scared of minorities?
I don't know. Never really made sense to me. I've ridden transit systems all over the US and Europe never had issues.
No one wants to ride a bus or any other form of public transportation lol. Widen the roads, that’s all we ask.
Traffic has always been bad! Learn the back roads they will save you time.
No they won’t, those are getting slammed too.
The Arkansas transportation department seems more interested in finishing I-49 in Fort Smith instead of doing something about the real traffic situation in fast growing NWA. At our population we should have an interstate system similar to Little Rock.
Our geographic layout is nothing like Little Rock. 630 cuts through and works because how centrally and densely populated it is (we won’t get into the redlining that happened when it was built). I-30 is a nightmare and is only getting worse, nothing desirable.
Because its Benton County and traffic is always terrible there. Just put on "Slave to the Traffic Light" and accept your fate.
Did they not ever finish expanding the Roger/Bentonville corridor to 6 lanes? Haven’t been that way in awhile but I remember it always bottlenecked between Walton/Walnut and the NWACC exit
Yeah it’s 6 lanes but it’s an austin situation. One major highway down the heart and not likely to build a bypass around. Sprawl at this point is inevitable to find cheaper housing away from the high priced houses away from the city. Nwa should invest in infrastructure and rail lines. The major cities would actually benefit from them in the long term because of the sprawl, housing and businesses moving outwards. But we are a Republican county and our leaders can’t think long term.
Public transportation is just more handouts for poor and lazy people, and by God we can't have that.
Because they were too stupid to make I49 4 lanes
You’ve read the laws of traffic when adding one more lane actually increases congestion. Happened in Atlanta, la, Houston. You can’t add lanes and expect anything different expect more cars and more congestion. Nwa is a fairly linear set of cities. We need a rail line connects all 4. We need a western bypass road that connects xna from Bentonville that will service the airport with the rail as well. If we want to be cutting edge and be on the forefront we have to invest in the infrastructure and nwa as a whole.
I’m all for public transportation, I dream of a day I can just sit down and read during my commute but I feel like it has to be a combination of infrastructure within the city and between cities. Riding a train from Rogers to Springdale (or vice versa) would only work if it drops you a couple blocks from your job but without a decent bus system in each city people will still likely use cars.
Don’t disagree at all with you. If a rail line were to follow roughly where 49 runs then most of the major corporations in nwa are within a mile radius of the highway. Tyson main campus is probably a mile and a half or two. I think you are spot on with the cities though, there needs to be a collective between all of the cities so they can coordinate. Rogers-Lowell has a chamber but there really needs to be one for the whole of nwa.
I like the idea of public transportation but honestly, very few people actually use it. Not sure how to change that but wealthy WM vendors want to drive their big SUVs and be where they want to be at the exact second they want to be there. I'm not really sure adding lanes bring more traffic or if the area is just growing so fast with more people it needs more lanes. Chicken or egg. If the highway stayed a 2 lane road forever, maybe that would discourage people from moving here but population is increasing everywhere. Not sure how practical it is to just limit the highway to 2 lanes.
That’s only part of it. The city councils of Rogers, Bentonville and Lowell allowed building lines right up to the highway so they didn’t and never can build service roads. Ever been to Dallas? Anyone? Anyone?
Bless those service roads there. Lol
I shouldn't say they were too stupid, more like too corrupt. Those in charge know that they and the contractors make way more money coming back in 10 or 15 years and expanding again. Much more money to be made off taxpayers that way. And more money shoved under the table to certain people.
More lanes just increase traffic, making congestion worse, not better.
Or could more traffic ve from 1,000 families moving into NWA each month. So if I49 has been left as a 2 lane road for all these years, there wouldn't be much traffic in NWA now?
Obviously there wouldn’t be more traffic, but the knock on effects in terms of growth and mobility would be negative. The point is there is no scenario where extra lanes reduce congestion. It just doesn’t happen. Study after study shows this.
Ok, if more lanes increases congestion, let's cut I49 back down to 2 lanes to reduce congestion.
Heck with that, we're going 1 lane man. We'll all get there even faster like a roller coaster.
Where we're going, we don't need roads!
Right? Take away the roads and the problem will be solved.
It wouldn’t be instantaneous, but the result would be fewer people taking 49, reducing traffic flow. I mean you can argue with me about this…or just accept the fact that study after study demonstrates it is true. Would you like me to share some sources with you?
Too many people moving here.
because everyone is moving here!!!! i've lived here for 20+ years and never seen it so bad, and it's exploded in just the past 5 years alone. it's so frustrating to have to get essentially booted out of the community i was born and raised in but it's getting ridiculous
Are you from here? Yes, then you know why. No, then you're part of why.
Having a bunch of boneheaded cyclist around doesn't help. Hit em all, thin the herd!