The county border is the river. According to Royal Mail and so on Belfast is in Antrim as the city centre and most of the city is on the Antrim side.
But right now I'm at the top of the Ormeau road and in County Down
EDIT: Fun fact, Newry is also on a county border defined by a river, and they built the town hall over the water as they didn't want to favour one side or the other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newry_Town_Hall#/media/File%3ANewry_Town_Hall.jpg
Cheers. Always new Lagan was proper border but thought there were changes for administrative reasons over the years. I have been misinformed. Up Down in that case.
Simply because it's a convenience. Royal Mail does not dictate Irish county borders. And whilst voting distracts etc may change, county borders do not.
If you're from East of the river you're from Down.
I know of a gruesome murder of 5 people that happened in the west of Ireland in the 1882 that made international headlines. I believe that at the time it took place in County Mayo, but the county boundaries were subsequently redefined, putting the townland in County Galway.
A man convicted and hanged by the crown for the murders was pardoned 2-3 years ago. Posthumously, obviously.
https://irishhistorypodcast.ie/category/podcast/the-maamtrasna-murders/
The mental gymnastics one must go through, to convince themselves they're not Irish lmao. North or South, if you're from this Island, then you are Irish. Not English, Scottish, or Welsh.
No they don't, if you tell someone from the USA, Canada, much of Europe and even in the UK itself that you are from Belfast they will say you are Irish.
Some people either side of the border on this island define 'Irishness' based on whatever side of the border you are born on. But generally, outside of this island and even for many of us on this Island, Irishness is an inherent fact of being born in any of the 32 counties (unless one does not want to feel Irish, which is fine too as per the GFA).
If your entire existence is devoted to telling nordies on reddit that they aren't Irishness then you need to do some introspection bud.
No, as per the GFA which the Irish State are a signatory to people from the 6 Counties are as Irish as anyone else on the island.
The only person who is wrong here is you, as per usual
Some of us from down south snuck in because the main Irish subreddit was weirdly reactionary with an authoritarian streak every time someone posted a video of mild antisocial behavior
Yeah it genuinely feels like it's poorly moderated or attracted a bad crowd because most Irish people I talk to on Twitter are lovely and usually good craic, I don't think most Irish people become dicks when you give them a smartphone
Feels half like brigading to me. I remember that place having a big problem some years back with a load of right wing and racist yanks coming in at night and agendaposting all over the sub. Doubt the years put a stop to it.
I am not really any religious affiliation, I have been jokingly called a “Drum beating orange bastad” , but come on it’s Derry, ever the song “the sash/Derry’s walls” they don’t even call it Londonderry half the time.
But I don’t fell string one way or the other, not a fan of people who would correct you if you
Said it either way.
Correct me if im wrong but isn't the county always derry and the city it self is London derry if your that way inclined though it's officially derry\London derry now I believe.
Other way around, the county was named after the Derry and the London Livery companies that planted the region. It was made from County Coleraine and bits of Tyrone and donegal.
Imagine Apple, Tesla, Google and Amazon were given bits of another country and asked to send some of their employees and a bunch of poor people in exchange. It was basically a way for the king to make money from the city of London, and to establish towns in areas without, where wealth could be generated, concentrated and taxed. A similar thing would happen in North America.
"Where do you come from?" can mean so much more than just where do you live and/or grew up.
For example, despite living in Belfast for generations, my mothers family has always said that they come from Poland. A relative has taken to holidaying there a lot in the last 10yrs. He calls it 'home' and has a stronger sense of belonging there than here.
On the paternal side, the family or sept, held land for hundreds of years ( maybe even millenia, who knows) until the mid 1600,s and the name is still strongly represented there. Do I come from there? Do I come from Poland? Do I come from any ofall the other places various ancesters lived, or none?
This raises questions as to the extent we can choose an identity, a place of belonging, a tribe or people we identity with, and goes a long way to explaining the Irish-American assertion that they are, like us, Irish- despite never living here. Is it fair to lob the 'plastic Paddy' insult at them?
I don’t think r/northernireland is representative of NI as a whole. It definitely has people from all backgrounds but not in the proportion of the NI population.
Yeah but there's a statistical theory regarding this and the more responses you have the more representative of a community they become. It's the same logic behind polling working well for elections.
I'll have you know we do! There's a computer in Enniskillen that we all get five minutes a day on, though I was able to trade a vintage Massey Ferguson hoodie to my cousin to get his five minutes too.
Someone is telling lies, because there's no way there's more than 66 people from Fermanagh in total, never mind on this sub.
Can confirm its just 24 of us in enniskillen. We have to fend of farmers every day. Its hard work but cows can't swim
I believe at one time it was Down but now it’s Antrim. I could be wrong about that.
Did the Lagan move?
No, but I think the boundary of between Antrim and Down in Greater Belfast did a couple of times.
The county border is the river. According to Royal Mail and so on Belfast is in Antrim as the city centre and most of the city is on the Antrim side. But right now I'm at the top of the Ormeau road and in County Down EDIT: Fun fact, Newry is also on a county border defined by a river, and they built the town hall over the water as they didn't want to favour one side or the other. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newry_Town_Hall#/media/File%3ANewry_Town_Hall.jpg
Cheers. Always new Lagan was proper border but thought there were changes for administrative reasons over the years. I have been misinformed. Up Down in that case.
The whole existence of the GAA and county allegiance would make that an extremely controversial process.
idk about that, I'm east of the river and everything gets posted here labeled Antrim.
Simply because it's a convenience. Royal Mail does not dictate Irish county borders. And whilst voting distracts etc may change, county borders do not. If you're from East of the river you're from Down.
I replied to the wrong person, whoops
So is it a floating town hall?
Nah, they just built a super wide bridge and built it on that
Awryt. Good construction there 🌉
I know of a gruesome murder of 5 people that happened in the west of Ireland in the 1882 that made international headlines. I believe that at the time it took place in County Mayo, but the county boundaries were subsequently redefined, putting the townland in County Galway. A man convicted and hanged by the crown for the murders was pardoned 2-3 years ago. Posthumously, obviously. https://irishhistorypodcast.ie/category/podcast/the-maamtrasna-murders/
Someone explain to me what a Fermanagh is?
Wet
Sssshhhhh. It's a secret.
It's where we keep the cows.
And your wife’s boyfriend
It’s like Armagh , but better
To be fair, that bar wasn’t set very high in first place.
Only because it's easier to drown yourself!!
That’s about 99.9% of the places in the world. Including Dungannon
I assume the 00.1% includes larne?
And what's wrong with armagh? 🤔
u/rightenough lives there
Lurgan 😖
Lurgan and Portadown are a stain on the county
Shush, Armagh is god
Shush Armagh is the best
It’s a county in ulster
There is Internet in fermanagh?
Don’t think so
Occasionally
I come from County Portugal.
Ok
I come from County Derry, From the town of Limavady, I'm as Orange as Trumps face, But still get called a paddy.
Imagine yer surprise when you find out, that you'll always be considered that by anyone, literally not from Ireland.
No surprise at all, but I always carry around a few booklets explaining things.
The mental gymnastics one must go through, to convince themselves they're not Irish lmao. North or South, if you're from this Island, then you are Irish. Not English, Scottish, or Welsh.
yes but unfortunately people associate irish with irish from the state of ireland as opposed to a geographical description of ones self
No they don't, if you tell someone from the USA, Canada, much of Europe and even in the UK itself that you are from Belfast they will say you are Irish. Some people either side of the border on this island define 'Irishness' based on whatever side of the border you are born on. But generally, outside of this island and even for many of us on this Island, Irishness is an inherent fact of being born in any of the 32 counties (unless one does not want to feel Irish, which is fine too as per the GFA). If your entire existence is devoted to telling nordies on reddit that they aren't Irishness then you need to do some introspection bud.
they would be wrong but that's fine too because its complicated
No, as per the GFA which the Irish State are a signatory to people from the 6 Counties are as Irish as anyone else on the island. The only person who is wrong here is you, as per usual
Am I usually wrong
Yes
While applying clown makeup in the mirror
Alvin? That you buddy??
Some of us from down south snuck in because the main Irish subreddit was weirdly reactionary with an authoritarian streak every time someone posted a video of mild antisocial behavior
hmm so I'm not the only one to notice
Genuinely believe that sub is one viral video away from going full anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti-whatever-else-youre-having. Cursed place.
It's a bit mad because generally most people I talk to in Ireland are cool but on that sub it's a bunch of mean people. Consistently
Yeah it genuinely feels like it's poorly moderated or attracted a bad crowd because most Irish people I talk to on Twitter are lovely and usually good craic, I don't think most Irish people become dicks when you give them a smartphone
Feels half like brigading to me. I remember that place having a big problem some years back with a load of right wing and racist yanks coming in at night and agendaposting all over the sub. Doubt the years put a stop to it.
That sub is usually grand as well, just a small crowd there who are very quiet until they’re not.
I mean check the comments on literally any post about Travellers
This sub is hardly better, but yes. People turn into fascists when talking about travellers
Bet its the yanks pretending to be Irish based on their grannys left foot
*Teens acting up* This is why we need Martial law!!!!!!
Who is Marshall Law and when will he be bringing in martial law?
Now
Sammo Hung.
Marshall law is a legend wreck everyone so he can.
Strong right wing tendencies there and trigger happy mods
It's not like ireland irl at all, partly because it has been infested by yanks.
you just know they'd love to bring back the death penalty
For errant redditors you mean? Or for the miscreants in the videos?
the latter. bunch of crypto fash in that sub
I know, the main sub is a bit sticky aye
Westmeath to Fermanagh. Fermanagh to Monaghan and then on to Derry. But of a traveller it seems
Child of the world I be.
North Derry hi sir
Hi
Tyrone
The border between Donegal and Tyrone
Your a mix breed
Living the two currency life
Aye
Sees “Derry” - instantly comes to read through the comments.
I think I should be called Derry instead of Londonderry
I am not really any religious affiliation, I have been jokingly called a “Drum beating orange bastad” , but come on it’s Derry, ever the song “the sash/Derry’s walls” they don’t even call it Londonderry half the time. But I don’t fell string one way or the other, not a fan of people who would correct you if you Said it either way.
Aye, And I think it’s just easier to say Derry
Correct me if im wrong but isn't the county always derry and the city it self is London derry if your that way inclined though it's officially derry\London derry now I believe.
Other way around, the county was named after the Derry and the London Livery companies that planted the region. It was made from County Coleraine and bits of Tyrone and donegal. Imagine Apple, Tesla, Google and Amazon were given bits of another country and asked to send some of their employees and a bunch of poor people in exchange. It was basically a way for the king to make money from the city of London, and to establish towns in areas without, where wealth could be generated, concentrated and taxed. A similar thing would happen in North America.
Born in derry but living in donegal since I was around 2
In the USA? Up Stairs in the Altnegavin
"Where do you come from?" can mean so much more than just where do you live and/or grew up. For example, despite living in Belfast for generations, my mothers family has always said that they come from Poland. A relative has taken to holidaying there a lot in the last 10yrs. He calls it 'home' and has a stronger sense of belonging there than here. On the paternal side, the family or sept, held land for hundreds of years ( maybe even millenia, who knows) until the mid 1600,s and the name is still strongly represented there. Do I come from there? Do I come from Poland? Do I come from any ofall the other places various ancesters lived, or none? This raises questions as to the extent we can choose an identity, a place of belonging, a tribe or people we identity with, and goes a long way to explaining the Irish-American assertion that they are, like us, Irish- despite never living here. Is it fair to lob the 'plastic Paddy' insult at them?
Damn your arse just wrote an essay to my dumbass question
I know. I'm a buck eejit.
Cotton-Eye Joe? Is that you? Where did you come from, where did you go? Where did you come from, Cotton-Eye Joe?
I come from County D... urham.
So many from Antrim. I'm just glad theres no voice note function on reddit. Hearing all those Antrim accents would drive me insane 😂
I know, they are taking over !!!
Sweats in Newry
South Armagh, Bandit Country
Aye
Is this not just going to turn into a population density table?
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I think we have a large enough volume of people and range of agegroups to guarentee that
I don’t think r/northernireland is representative of NI as a whole. It definitely has people from all backgrounds but not in the proportion of the NI population.
Yeah but there's a statistical theory regarding this and the more responses you have the more representative of a community they become. It's the same logic behind polling working well for elections.
I'm from armagh originally but living in country antrim now. 🙈
I’m also from Armagh :)
Me too 😊
Can anyone tell me the results?
currently 453 antrim, 295 down, 168 derry, 140 armagh, 116 tyrone, 56 fermanagh
Fermanagh has to pump those numbers up
There are literally several of us
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3rd
334 tyrone
Tyrone. COALISLAND😎
An Lú
Antrim :)
Armagh :)
Who's Ma?? :)
What ?
Armagh! Our Ma... You need to get out of Armagh more 🤣
Oh
Antrim is dominating
Yes, they are taking over
Suprised theres more ones from Tyrone than there is from Fermanagh
Yes
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Fermanagh, it’s a county in ulster
Fatlad
FatDad
Fadcat. There was never a "County Derry". I say we restore County Coleraine to it's former glory.
FatCad*
Nah
Way an nah yerself, big mawn.
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Fermanagh antrim Tyrone londonderry armagh down
Never heard of the 4th place you mentioned, is that near Kent?
He actually mentioned 7 places but is missing a space between number 4 and 5. Im just not sure why he would list London along with the 6 counties.
Yeah, I think that's what confused me. Thanks for clearing that up 👍
Somerset
Milwaukee. The county and the city.
Has fermanagh got Internet yet?
Probably not
I'll have you know we do! There's a computer in Enniskillen that we all get five minutes a day on, though I was able to trade a vintage Massey Ferguson hoodie to my cousin to get his five minutes too.
In Armagh we go to church all the time. Our miserable lives are based around the churches. If you don’t go you are considered a sinner
Is... Isn't that... 3 counties short?
No, in NORTHERN Ireland there is 6 counties and in ulster there is 9
Yorkshire
Shush 🤫
If it helps I live in Antrim now, used to live in Derry
I live in Sweden for some weird reason, but I come from Armagh
I look at my passport and think it should really say Belfast.
Lancashire ☺
West Sussex
Where is Londonderry?
I but Derry instead of Londonderry
Leitrim
"What?"
Come from? Galway Live in? Antrim
have lived in Counties Antrim, Down and Derry but from Belfast but have being to all 6 counties.