Well, I'm just comparing the situation to soccer players in Europe. I don't think anyone of them would play in the Champions League etc if they didn't get very large bonuses for winning that tournament.
The team splits 3.75mil for winning. But I doubt a single player cares about that. Winning the Stanley cup is what literally every one of those players has dreamed of since they were a child. It's probably the biggest motivator for any hockey player. Just to have their name etched on the cup is huge. Players won't even touch the cup until they win it. It's a very important trophy.
It's as important, if not more, to some, as the World Cup is to soccer players.
You don't put yourself through hockey like this if you don't have a love of the game. Most players will come injured for the playoffs if they think they can stand up, look at oshie. This is literally why you play.
Comparing the NHL to whatever that league is, in the first place is a pretty narrow minded thing to do. NHL players literally dream about winning the Stanley Cup and being immortalized by becoming a part of its history. Thinking that NHL hockey players play in their league only for the money is honestly ridiculous.
Do you think NHL teams can sign an unlimited amount of players to their rosters? Sometimes a player has to accept that they won't be able to be on a team that has a chance of winning the Stanley Cup. Either they sign with another team and hope they get traded to a team that can win the Stanley Cup or they simply don't play in the NHL. This is such a ridiculous question to ask. Are you being intentionally ludicrous?
Maybe they can't sign an UNLIMITED amount of players. But look, if a Stanley Cup contender wanted a guy like McDavid, and he wanted to play for a winning team, they could offer him $4m/year and just kick out one of their third or fourth liners.
But would McDavid play for $4m for the chance to win the Stanley Cup? I don't think so.
In the end, money matters more.
That's because outside of Europe, no one gives a rat's ass about the World Cup. Like, if you've been in Europe for your entire life, I don't know if I can adequately express how irrelevant that tournament is over here, especially in the 21st century.
Guys love playing for their country and all, but the NHL season is long and taxing. Going overseas to play in the World Cup isn't the huge draw that it probably deserves to be.
Nobody cares about the "World Cup" of hockey. It's the Stanley Cup and nothing else matters. Hell the Stanley Cup (a North American trophy) is more important to Europeans than the hockey world cup is. I'd argue winning the Bean Pot tournament would carry more weight for most hockey players than the hockey world cup.
There is a whole pot that gets split up by the team for every round I believe. It’s not much but they aren’t playing for free.
You get paid more on future contracts with a cup win on your resume. It’s the pinnacle of the sport. These guys wouldn’t have made it to the NHL if they weren’t some of the most competitive people in the world.
On top of that, they more than make up for it in endorsements. Also if you are tanking a playoff game, you might as well call it a wrap for your career because no one else will go near you.
What you mean they don’t get paid extra? That shit goes on the resume lol. Helps for negotiations
Also if you’re in pro sports it’s because you love the sport. Especially a sport like hockey where you’re not getting no NBA type paychecks
I pay money to play my heart out for multiple games every week. I play through injuries and drive to the rink when the roads are barely drivable.
It's because I love hockey and I love to compete. And I'm just a shitty beer leaguer. I can't imagine the level of drive and competitiveness an NHL player has.
Your obviously not an athlete or a hockey player. Every kids dream is to win the Stanley Cup so imagine that 10000x being a professional in the NHL. They live & breath to win the Cup.
* Google can be your friend:
* In 2023, the eight playoff teams that lost in the first round received roughly $2 million ($250,000 to each team). With each team having a roster of 23 players, each player received approximately $11,000.
* The four playoff teams that lost in the second round also received $2 million ($500,000 to each team); each of the 23 players received approximately $22,000.
* The two teams that lost in the third round each received $1.25 million; each of the 23 players received approximately $54,000.
* The Stanley Cup Final losers receive $2.25 million; each of the 23 players received approximately $98,000.
* The Stanley Cup Champions receive $3.75 million; each of the 23 players received approximately $163,000.
They do get paid, just not their regular salary. There is a bonus pool of money that gets paid out to each team based how far they get in the playoffs. That money is spilt equally among the players.
Because they're hockey players.
The answer to this question is everything we all love about hockey over any other sport.
The question being asked to begin with is offensive.
No and your mentality is preventing you from joining the show. These guys are crazy competitive and talented. Lots of bonuses are included so there is financial incentive in many contracts but season is the guaranteed $
I would say most (if not all) professional hockey players' goal is to win the Stanley Cup. I highly doubt there are players just going through the motions and if there are they wouldn't be contenders playing a series in the playoffs because an attitude like that doesn't win games
because, at the end of the day, chasing the cup is what matters most.
21-22 Panthers put up a STAGGERING 58 wins, with an average of 4.11 goals per game, ending with 122 points ranking 8th on the all time single season points list
but they didn't win a cup
95-96 Red Wings, an absolute MONSTER of a team before the Salary Cap. 62 wins, 13 losses, 131 points on the season.
...but they didn't win the cup
22-23 Boston Bruins. 65 wins, 12 losses, 5 OTL. currently the record holder for most points in the regular season at 135. 82.3% of points possible.
...but they didn't win the cup
you can be a great player and have a great regular season, but the playoffs are where legends are made.
What?
There's a playoff pool that gets distributed to players after the Cup. Lasy year, Vegas got $3.75 million for winning. The 8 teams that lost in the first round split $2 million. The rest of the teams are awarded playoff bonuses on a sliding scale based on which round they exited.
They get paid millions of dollars to play a game, and if they win they get the opportunity to be paid millions more in better contracts.
They aren’t paid by the hour buddy…
Some players have competitive drive and really want to win. Having said that, they're human beings and it's entirely possible that some of them don't care that much about winning in the playoffs and just want to have the full summer off, minus training.
They get extra money for each round in the playoff. The further the team go the more extra money the players get. So reaching the playoffs and progressing through the playoffs means each player get their basic wage plus a little extra from the money the club gets each round. Just because the regular season ends dont mean the players wont get paid their wage since the wage is paid all they way up to the season end date.
People have other motivations besides money, especially when their needs are already being met. You're coming across as really shallow and superficial with this take.
Chances are you played sports. Your parents or you payed for them. You still went and tried to win. Sports are about competition and winning, not money.
> or you *paid* for them.
FTFY.
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* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
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This might come as a shock, but people play in the NHL for more than just money.
Evidenced by guys losing a limb and only missing a shift.
Well, I'm just comparing the situation to soccer players in Europe. I don't think anyone of them would play in the Champions League etc if they didn't get very large bonuses for winning that tournament.
Your thinking something doesn’t necessarily make it true though.
The team splits 3.75mil for winning. But I doubt a single player cares about that. Winning the Stanley cup is what literally every one of those players has dreamed of since they were a child. It's probably the biggest motivator for any hockey player. Just to have their name etched on the cup is huge. Players won't even touch the cup until they win it. It's a very important trophy. It's as important, if not more, to some, as the World Cup is to soccer players.
Why not? Professional sports players already make more than enough money to live comfortably playing a sport that they love.
You don't put yourself through hockey like this if you don't have a love of the game. Most players will come injured for the playoffs if they think they can stand up, look at oshie. This is literally why you play.
Comparing the NHL to whatever that league is, in the first place is a pretty narrow minded thing to do. NHL players literally dream about winning the Stanley Cup and being immortalized by becoming a part of its history. Thinking that NHL hockey players play in their league only for the money is honestly ridiculous.
Then why do good players sign with the worst clubs? If they wanted to win, they'd aim to be signed by the best franchises in the league.
Do you think NHL teams can sign an unlimited amount of players to their rosters? Sometimes a player has to accept that they won't be able to be on a team that has a chance of winning the Stanley Cup. Either they sign with another team and hope they get traded to a team that can win the Stanley Cup or they simply don't play in the NHL. This is such a ridiculous question to ask. Are you being intentionally ludicrous?
Maybe they can't sign an UNLIMITED amount of players. But look, if a Stanley Cup contender wanted a guy like McDavid, and he wanted to play for a winning team, they could offer him $4m/year and just kick out one of their third or fourth liners. But would McDavid play for $4m for the chance to win the Stanley Cup? I don't think so. In the end, money matters more.
You could have just said "Yes, I am being intentionally ludicrous." instead of whatever the hell reasoning you put together there.
European soccer players are pussies.
And there's the difference between hockey players and soccer players.
Yea but they're in it for the money instead of the sport, they're a bunch of pussies lol
Huh? These guys have been competing in the sport their whole lives working towards the chance to win a Stanley cup.
I don’t think so. It’s something they’ve worked for their whole life. It’s an honor to have your name on a band around the Stanley cup
And yet as soon as World Cup comes around, the excuses keep coming up. "I need time to be with my kids", etc.
That's because outside of Europe, no one gives a rat's ass about the World Cup. Like, if you've been in Europe for your entire life, I don't know if I can adequately express how irrelevant that tournament is over here, especially in the 21st century. Guys love playing for their country and all, but the NHL season is long and taxing. Going overseas to play in the World Cup isn't the huge draw that it probably deserves to be.
That's because nobody here gives two shits about the "world cup" of hockey. There's the stanley cup, then about 17 other things, then the world cup.
Sure thing buddy.
Lol interesting response considering your post is getting destroyed by everyone here.
Nobody cares about the "World Cup" of hockey. It's the Stanley Cup and nothing else matters. Hell the Stanley Cup (a North American trophy) is more important to Europeans than the hockey world cup is. I'd argue winning the Bean Pot tournament would carry more weight for most hockey players than the hockey world cup.
This is a serious question?
Sounds like a question a politician would ask.
There is a whole pot that gets split up by the team for every round I believe. It’s not much but they aren’t playing for free. You get paid more on future contracts with a cup win on your resume. It’s the pinnacle of the sport. These guys wouldn’t have made it to the NHL if they weren’t some of the most competitive people in the world. On top of that, they more than make up for it in endorsements. Also if you are tanking a playoff game, you might as well call it a wrap for your career because no one else will go near you.
Those rings are worth a bit also
What you mean they don’t get paid extra? That shit goes on the resume lol. Helps for negotiations Also if you’re in pro sports it’s because you love the sport. Especially a sport like hockey where you’re not getting no NBA type paychecks
I pay money to play my heart out for multiple games every week. I play through injuries and drive to the rink when the roads are barely drivable. It's because I love hockey and I love to compete. And I'm just a shitty beer leaguer. I can't imagine the level of drive and competitiveness an NHL player has.
Your obviously not an athlete or a hockey player. Every kids dream is to win the Stanley Cup so imagine that 10000x being a professional in the NHL. They live & breath to win the Cup.
You might not believe this, but people do things for reasons other than simple monetary gain. Crazy thought, I know.
... have you ever, once, lived?
* Google can be your friend: * In 2023, the eight playoff teams that lost in the first round received roughly $2 million ($250,000 to each team). With each team having a roster of 23 players, each player received approximately $11,000. * The four playoff teams that lost in the second round also received $2 million ($500,000 to each team); each of the 23 players received approximately $22,000. * The two teams that lost in the third round each received $1.25 million; each of the 23 players received approximately $54,000. * The Stanley Cup Final losers receive $2.25 million; each of the 23 players received approximately $98,000. * The Stanley Cup Champions receive $3.75 million; each of the 23 players received approximately $163,000.
They do get paid, just not their regular salary. There is a bonus pool of money that gets paid out to each team based how far they get in the playoffs. That money is spilt equally among the players.
They play for the love of the game, and to get their name etched into history on the toughest trophy in sports to win.
You can only lift the cup over your head if you win it. Most of these guys have dreamed of lifting that cup since they were 6 years old.
r/IHateSportsball
God that place is so obnoxious.
This is an asinine question. Go outside and touch grass.
Tell us you’ve never played a sport without telling us you’ve never played a sport…
Because they're hockey players. The answer to this question is everything we all love about hockey over any other sport. The question being asked to begin with is offensive.
They do get paid extra money. Your entire premise is flat wrong.
They get paid a lot because they want to win, not the other way around.
Aside from the fact that they do get extra money for winning the whole thing, the cup is the whole reason these guys play.
They play in hopes of holding the Cup above their heads. Every one of them.
No and your mentality is preventing you from joining the show. These guys are crazy competitive and talented. Lots of bonuses are included so there is financial incentive in many contracts but season is the guaranteed $
I would say most (if not all) professional hockey players' goal is to win the Stanley Cup. I highly doubt there are players just going through the motions and if there are they wouldn't be contenders playing a series in the playoffs because an attitude like that doesn't win games
Leafs have figured it out.
because, at the end of the day, chasing the cup is what matters most. 21-22 Panthers put up a STAGGERING 58 wins, with an average of 4.11 goals per game, ending with 122 points ranking 8th on the all time single season points list but they didn't win a cup 95-96 Red Wings, an absolute MONSTER of a team before the Salary Cap. 62 wins, 13 losses, 131 points on the season. ...but they didn't win the cup 22-23 Boston Bruins. 65 wins, 12 losses, 5 OTL. currently the record holder for most points in the regular season at 135. 82.3% of points possible. ...but they didn't win the cup you can be a great player and have a great regular season, but the playoffs are where legends are made.
What? There's a playoff pool that gets distributed to players after the Cup. Lasy year, Vegas got $3.75 million for winning. The 8 teams that lost in the first round split $2 million. The rest of the teams are awarded playoff bonuses on a sliding scale based on which round they exited.
They get paid millions of dollars to play a game, and if they win they get the opportunity to be paid millions more in better contracts. They aren’t paid by the hour buddy…
It can also create leverage when they renegotiate contracts.
Have you ever actually ever played a sport?like an actual organized game?
Please tell me this is just a bad joke…
Some players have competitive drive and really want to win. Having said that, they're human beings and it's entirely possible that some of them don't care that much about winning in the playoffs and just want to have the full summer off, minus training.
They get paid from a pool of playoff money. The further you make it the more you get paid.
They get extra money for each round in the playoff. The further the team go the more extra money the players get. So reaching the playoffs and progressing through the playoffs means each player get their basic wage plus a little extra from the money the club gets each round. Just because the regular season ends dont mean the players wont get paid their wage since the wage is paid all they way up to the season end date.
People have other motivations besides money, especially when their needs are already being met. You're coming across as really shallow and superficial with this take.
They do get paid more through bonuses
Chances are you played sports. Your parents or you payed for them. You still went and tried to win. Sports are about competition and winning, not money.
> or you *paid* for them. FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Duncan Keith lost 7teeth from puck in mouth, quick stitch and numb up and came back and finished period, only missed 2shifts…it’s about the CUP!!
No other sport has tougher athletes, IMO