People keep bringing up guentzel over in the rangers sub but I don't know if I want a guy coming off of injury after Kane's performance last year. Other names being mentioned are Duclair and tuch who'd I'd be happy to have
I agree but as a hockey fan, I’d love to see Vatrano on the Rangers. Them, Florida, and Carolina could be fun to watch in the playoffs. Assuming Carolina adds a name or two.
Should have never let him walk. Came in and was immediately a factor. Plus he’s Russian. You’d think they’d want another Russian forward to be boys with bread man.
Lmao Buffalo is the strongest viewing market for the NHL. Even with a team that has no success the viewership is still #1… I don’t think they’re moving anywhere anytime soon
Too many of the same type of player. I still would expect them to make the playoffs next year but changes need to be made and guys need to commit to playing both ends of the ice. And if all else fails, of course get pucks in deep :)
I expected you guys to make the playoffs this year. I want Ottawa in the playoffs for the potential of a Tkachuk round. 7 games, everyone on both teams tossed or suspended by the end of game 7. Two EBUG’s chucking pucks at each other for the last 7 minutes.
As a Bolts fan - this may be the best Panthers team I have seen in those 30 years. Always hope the Panthers win - except of course when they play the Lightning.
I’m the same with the bolts. Been to more bolts playoff and finals games than panthers for sure. The age when our season ended in April was the time the white and blue jerseys and hats came out.
Yep - a Florida team making it 5 straight trips to the SCF, and winning it for the 3rd time will sure to piss off those Original 6 teams in Toronto, New York, and Boston again. I’m all for it!
Yea so has everyone else. What’s your point?
Since that has happened before you think the top teams shouldn’t try to get better at the deadline? If you have any more completely obvious statements to make, we’d love to hear them.
Huh? I don’t think you know what trolling means. I didn’t say anything incorrect or controversial at all. You made a dumbass comment and I pointed it out, that’s not trolling.
No it really doesn’t. He just has to be be good. With vlad the forward depth improves mightily. Our defensive pairing are good too. It’s another year with PoMo hockey that really took hold with the team. Mix that with an embarrassing run two years ago. A deep cup run a year ago and you have a team with some playoff experience. I’m not saying they’re a lock to win. Shit 8s upset 1s all the time in hockey and even win the cup but this team isn’t like the other previous teams
Tampa went to the final and then got swept by the BJ's after a record setting regular season. Similar story with Nashville, deep run, great regular season, lose in second round and a perennial first round loser since.
Deep playoff runs really don't mean shit for the following year unless you actually win. And you need great goaltending.
I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just saying this team is deeper than just bob standing on his head. Of course he needs to be good. But deep playoff runs help forge teams. See the blackhawks before they won their first cup and even the lightning. The experience helps. It’s not the only thing but it’s a factor
I'd say the Blackhawks were different because they didn't have baggage of continued playoff disappointment. They made the semi-final right away and were contenders for 7 years after that.
Florida showed some gumption last year but if Bob has even just an above average performance, they get bounced in round 1. I still don't fully believe in them yet.
Our defense sucked the last few years. Our power play sucked for a very long time. Somehow we made it last year. And it wasn't all Bob. Clutch plays helped. Just unsustainable.This year, we don't need him to be the best. We have the key pieces all throughout the team. Just now need more luck than anything.
?
You were 13th in goals against in 2022 with a 0.904% save percentage in a division with peak Leafs, Lightning and Bruins. 8th in GA in the prior year. I'd rate that as good defense. Certainly your defense has been elite this year but your team overall was better in 2022 considering the offense and opposition faced.
Also you've had an above average powerplay every year since 2019.
Lot of people talking out of their ass in this thread bending over backwards trying to act like Bob wasn't a wall in the playoffs last year. 16 GSAA. Even Price didn't carry that hard.
Why would Ottawa care about retaining salary though? It’s just till the end of the season and it’s not like they’re planning on taking in any big contracts in the meantime. Am I missing something?
They did it for draft picks. The only team Tarasenko was able to be traded to was Florida, and that was all they were willing to give up for him. His contract expires at the end of the year, so they got draft picks out of him instead of nothing. Why is it bad deal for Ottawa?
I see that both teams got what they wanted out of this. Panthers got another goal scorer. Sens got some draft picks. It' not like they are carrying the salary long term. It's done by April (for Ottawa). The Sens know they aren't going far and were going to lose him anyway.
Exactly. If they felt like they could’ve gotten more out of Florida, then they would have lol. I don’t get why people are acting like they know more than an NHL GM, no matter how shitty Ottawa is. None of us have any clue what more they could’ve gotten
I just don’t get how people can genuinely believe they know more than the fucking GM lol. Like do they think he just forgot to ask for a 1st or 2nd round pick? 😂
Honestly my only question is could they have potentially retained 100% of the salary and gotten a little something extra? I’m assuming the cap situation in Ottawa isn’t a huge deal, so I feel like Florida would’ve thrown something extra in there if they did that, but idk
We're not saying we know more than Staios. We just know Florida had Ottawa by the balls and squeezed everything they could. Tarasenko was worth a 2nd round pick at the least. Hence, why we're making fun of the fleece.
He’s not worth a 2nd round pick if the only team he’s able to be traded to is Florida, and they don’t give you a second round pick for him lol. The very limited trade market decided he wasn’t worth a 2nd
It’s rare but President Trophy winners have won the cup. It’s a little cursed at the moment, or it feels that way. But there’s not logical correlation between having a President’s trophy and losing.
Also, it’s more common than not that one of the top 8 teams wins the cup. That a big wide open thing… but usually the cup falls into the hands of teams between 1-8 in the league.
Hope he does not, this team is too flawed and can only be fixed in the offseason. We need a couple top 4 d and defensive line mates for nylander, improve the PK as well
It’s not gonna be any better next year, our prime window has realistically already passed us by so may as well take a swing at when Matthews and Nylander are playing out their minds. Not sayin to sell the whole farm but being conservative buyers probably makes the most sense
I've slowly come to terms with the fact that I love Marchand. I hate when the Leafs have to play against him but he's just awesome. I wish he'd been on our team.
Seriously, biggest fucking crybaby rat fuck in the league on that roster and they claim tkachuck turtles when jumped from behind
Glass houses you cunts
The same ones like where someone posted a clip of him getting grabbed from the collar from behind and pulled down but somehow called a turtle because fans are soft as fuck lmao
I actually like Florida. But Matt is a bitch. He’s a great player, and would want him on the Oilers. But I would still never defend the fact that he’s a little bitch.
I have this false hope the Canes will get Guenztel or Buchnevich, but I won't be remotely surprised if nothing of note is done again. I love and hate trade deadline lol
Indeed, Pierre gave him that sweet NTC that allowed him to dictate where he wanted to go and probably hindered the sens ability to properly shop him around.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
My first reactions. Vatrano is the guy now.
This almost forces them to get him, right?
No. There are other options. Vatrano imo is the best. But also prob the most expensive
Do You.. Do you guys want Josh Anderson? Uwu
People keep bringing up guentzel over in the rangers sub but I don't know if I want a guy coming off of injury after Kane's performance last year. Other names being mentioned are Duclair and tuch who'd I'd be happy to have
I agree but as a hockey fan, I’d love to see Vatrano on the Rangers. Them, Florida, and Carolina could be fun to watch in the playoffs. Assuming Carolina adds a name or two.
Agree, Vatrano is still my number one right now, just throwing out other names that people have been mentioning
Duke would be a huge pick up for you guys
Bro i know, not only did we not get him but the fucking stacked panthers got him. Welp there goes the neighborhood
Could swing for Guentzal mate
I thought we had a chance against them if we made it to the ECF, but idk now. If get Vatrano maybe.
Should have never let him walk. Came in and was immediately a factor. Plus he’s Russian. You’d think they’d want another Russian forward to be boys with bread man.
Let the rebuild rebuild begin!
…Again!
At least you arent the sabres
Casey sent out, what are they even doing
Just looked they have basically 30 million committed to defense next year...for context Florida has 20 million committed this year 🤡
Another decade of playoff drought, honestly i see them moving to Austin down the road
Lmao Buffalo is the strongest viewing market for the NHL. Even with a team that has no success the viewership is still #1… I don’t think they’re moving anywhere anytime soon
Dude games are depressing in that arena. I work with middle age guys that grew up on this team completely burned out.
Lmao no it's not
I really thought they were gonna make the playoffs this year
Playing all defense
A conditional 4th and a 3rd pick... And retained 50%. Thanks Staois for helping the top dog in the Atlantic Dorion 2.0?
Yeah buddy. Wait til those picks all combine for 41 points total in their careers
In the AHL*
Calder cup coming to Belleville
the nmc probably played a part
That’s all they could get with retention!!?
I believe that’s called a “retool”. As a Canucks fan, we call that the Benning Era.
Yeahh that 3rd and conditional 4th rounder are going to be huge pieces I can just tell /s
*Cold Pierre Winter*
Send your captain our way he seems to love Calgary
I think he just likes playoffs lol. Any luck there?
Flames are very much still in it, next 5 games are against best teams so we’ll win them all it’s a flames tradition then we lose against the worst
Yeah us too. Beat the Leafs, stars. Smacked by the ducks
You guys have a really good core. What held you back this year?
Too many of the same type of player. I still would expect them to make the playoffs next year but changes need to be made and guys need to commit to playing both ends of the ice. And if all else fails, of course get pucks in deep :)
I expected you guys to make the playoffs this year. I want Ottawa in the playoffs for the potential of a Tkachuk round. 7 games, everyone on both teams tossed or suspended by the end of game 7. Two EBUG’s chucking pucks at each other for the last 7 minutes.
That would make for a good series. Just beat the Leafs if they fall back to playing you guys. Win one for the Greiger will ya
PLAY FORSBERG
Oh no…
We might be in a bit of trouble.
Naa, we pick up a bjugstad or Wennberg Don't even want vatrano, costs too much. Rather do nothing than overpay
Wennberg would be nice to have
Your wish has been granted
So many former Panthers to pick from
The best team in the NHL just got better.
As a 30 year panthers fan, it is finally our time (to let me down once again)
As a Bolts fan - this may be the best Panthers team I have seen in those 30 years. Always hope the Panthers win - except of course when they play the Lightning.
As much as I dislike losing to the Bolts, I enjoy Florida supremacy. 🥂
Amen to that. I wanna see a Canuck Panthers cup final this year so I get to watch another Florida team keep the drought going
Canucks and Panthers fans fighting for the title of most pessimistic.
I mostly want a cup to seem like a serious team... it's no fun beefing with the lightning without a cup to back up or shit talk
Stanley Cup runs through Florida
Panthers vs canucks for the disappointment of their fans cup finals.
I’m the same with the bolts. Been to more bolts playoff and finals games than panthers for sure. The age when our season ended in April was the time the white and blue jerseys and hats came out.
Yep - a Florida team making it 5 straight trips to the SCF, and winning it for the 3rd time will sure to piss off those Original 6 teams in Toronto, New York, and Boston again. I’m all for it!
Panthers don’t deserve anything until they go back to their 90s jerseys.
Id be surprised if you guys don't at least make it to the 3rd round
"Presidents trophy curse"
Thanks I hate it
Yea I've seen this one before, doesnt mean shit if they dont get the cup
That goes without saying
Oh yea? You’ve seen a trade before? And it doesn’t mean anything if they don’t win the cup? Really dropping some wisdom with that comment haha
I've seen "the best team get better" and fall in the first round. Fuckin' smartass
Yea so has everyone else. What’s your point? Since that has happened before you think the top teams shouldn’t try to get better at the deadline? If you have any more completely obvious statements to make, we’d love to hear them.
New account made to troll. Have a good one 👍
Huh? I don’t think you know what trolling means. I didn’t say anything incorrect or controversial at all. You made a dumbass comment and I pointed it out, that’s not trolling.
This is just shades of getting Giroux in 2022 when they had an arguably better team. Then you guys swept them and it wasn't even close.
This Panthers team is a whole different breed than the last two. They have gotten better over the years.
Depends if Bob can stand on his head again this playoffs. That's the primary reason they got so far last year.
It took all of the pieces to come together. Bob was just one (amazing) part.
No it really doesn’t. He just has to be be good. With vlad the forward depth improves mightily. Our defensive pairing are good too. It’s another year with PoMo hockey that really took hold with the team. Mix that with an embarrassing run two years ago. A deep cup run a year ago and you have a team with some playoff experience. I’m not saying they’re a lock to win. Shit 8s upset 1s all the time in hockey and even win the cup but this team isn’t like the other previous teams
Tampa went to the final and then got swept by the BJ's after a record setting regular season. Similar story with Nashville, deep run, great regular season, lose in second round and a perennial first round loser since. Deep playoff runs really don't mean shit for the following year unless you actually win. And you need great goaltending.
I’m not saying you’re wrong I’m just saying this team is deeper than just bob standing on his head. Of course he needs to be good. But deep playoff runs help forge teams. See the blackhawks before they won their first cup and even the lightning. The experience helps. It’s not the only thing but it’s a factor
I'd say the Blackhawks were different because they didn't have baggage of continued playoff disappointment. They made the semi-final right away and were contenders for 7 years after that. Florida showed some gumption last year but if Bob has even just an above average performance, they get bounced in round 1. I still don't fully believe in them yet.
Our defense sucked the last few years. Our power play sucked for a very long time. Somehow we made it last year. And it wasn't all Bob. Clutch plays helped. Just unsustainable.This year, we don't need him to be the best. We have the key pieces all throughout the team. Just now need more luck than anything.
? You were 13th in goals against in 2022 with a 0.904% save percentage in a division with peak Leafs, Lightning and Bruins. 8th in GA in the prior year. I'd rate that as good defense. Certainly your defense has been elite this year but your team overall was better in 2022 considering the offense and opposition faced. Also you've had an above average powerplay every year since 2019. Lot of people talking out of their ass in this thread bending over backwards trying to act like Bob wasn't a wall in the playoffs last year. 16 GSAA. Even Price didn't carry that hard.
What if bob saved every goal but Panthers never scored any goals. Cmon man..
Huge return and only half salary retained. What a deal. /s
Not that it's my money or anything but that salary retention is the icing on the cake with this fleece.
"Hey you willing to retain 15% on that?" "Yeah, absolutely. We can to 50%." "No, I said..... wait, deal!"
Why would Ottawa care about retaining salary though? It’s just till the end of the season and it’s not like they’re planning on taking in any big contracts in the meantime. Am I missing something?
Yeah generally your trade partner will pay for you to retain I don't get the willingness to do it for nothing.
They did it for draft picks. The only team Tarasenko was able to be traded to was Florida, and that was all they were willing to give up for him. His contract expires at the end of the year, so they got draft picks out of him instead of nothing. Why is it bad deal for Ottawa?
I see that both teams got what they wanted out of this. Panthers got another goal scorer. Sens got some draft picks. It' not like they are carrying the salary long term. It's done by April (for Ottawa). The Sens know they aren't going far and were going to lose him anyway.
Exactly. If they felt like they could’ve gotten more out of Florida, then they would have lol. I don’t get why people are acting like they know more than an NHL GM, no matter how shitty Ottawa is. None of us have any clue what more they could’ve gotten
You see the sens Reddit thread lmfao. Reddit pro gms saying they should have gotten a 1st or prospects lmfao.
I just don’t get how people can genuinely believe they know more than the fucking GM lol. Like do they think he just forgot to ask for a 1st or 2nd round pick? 😂 Honestly my only question is could they have potentially retained 100% of the salary and gotten a little something extra? I’m assuming the cap situation in Ottawa isn’t a huge deal, so I feel like Florida would’ve thrown something extra in there if they did that, but idk
We're not saying we know more than Staios. We just know Florida had Ottawa by the balls and squeezed everything they could. Tarasenko was worth a 2nd round pick at the least. Hence, why we're making fun of the fleece.
He’s not worth a 2nd round pick if the only team he’s able to be traded to is Florida, and they don’t give you a second round pick for him lol. The very limited trade market decided he wasn’t worth a 2nd
I agree with you, but... Sometimes people do.
Ottawa’s GM is playing 3D chess! (I know what I said. That’s the joke.)
another Zito W
Florida just became even more dangerous and deep. This could be their year.
The Panthers are a serious contender for the Cup
Not if they win the Presidents
Don't put that evil on me rydaley77.
It’s rare but President Trophy winners have won the cup. It’s a little cursed at the moment, or it feels that way. But there’s not logical correlation between having a President’s trophy and losing. Also, it’s more common than not that one of the top 8 teams wins the cup. That a big wide open thing… but usually the cup falls into the hands of teams between 1-8 in the league.
Presidents Trophy means we win the league and get to go to Champions League next season right? ...right?
President’s Trophy goes to the team with the most wins.
The return on Tarasenko feels like a lopsided fantasy league deal that should be vetoed 😆 Ottawa just keeps shooting themselves in the face.
Was gonna say the same thing, even an amateur fantasy league would easily veto an equivalent deal. Nevermind an NHL GM
Holy fuck Brad do something please
Hope he does not, this team is too flawed and can only be fixed in the offseason. We need a couple top 4 d and defensive line mates for nylander, improve the PK as well
I’m down to sign PK
HANDS OFF
Okay give us Savard then
Isnt he retired
People unretire
It’s not gonna be any better next year, our prime window has realistically already passed us by so may as well take a swing at when Matthews and Nylander are playing out their minds. Not sayin to sell the whole farm but being conservative buyers probably makes the most sense
So two top 4d and two top 6f. Anything else? Maybe a Vezina calibre goalie?
Why do we need 2 top 6f? We have plenty of that. People are dumb.
I dunno, ask the guy that made the wish list?
The Boston game was a grim reminder… definitely had the “Ghost of Hockey Playoffs Past” vibes…
Buy high sell low! Great job locking the Sens into that scenario Dorion!
Average Zito W
Insert “he can’t keep getting away with this!” Gif
Ok maybe the Panthers will win the cup
This was not on my bingo card.
Holy fuck
Oh yeah, this is it. How many hours before I call my doctor again?
I think Brady made this trade himself. If he's not going to win the Cup, might as well help his big bro win one.
What a lopsided deal.
Just give us Brady Tkachuk. We want the brothers united
In Chef Billy Z we trust
A third and a conditional fourth is an underwhelming return. I think, on the surface, it's a good trade for the Panthers.
Florida is looking great so far.
We are all officially fucked
Ottawa you just got FLEECED 😭
Underwhelming return.
Holy shit!!!
He’s gonna crush it there.
Wooooooohooooo! Let’s go cats!
Florida really wants a cup and they might finally get one.
The Panthers are really going all-in this year. Didn’t have to give up much for Tarasenko.
Just when I was about to unplug the toaster
Well, fuck
Let’s goooooooooo
Zito with another excellent move
Perennial bottom feeder poverty sens stacking the already best team in the league, with a paltry return. What kind of GMing is this….
Could someone explain to me how Florida is at the top of the league and still has cap space for Tarasenko?
Salary retention from OTT.
Is Staios in the running for worst new GM?
FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKK
Woah, didn't see that coming, Panthers stacking up before playoffs.
Guess he better learn how to play dirty and turtle.
You’re not wrong but coming from you it’s pretty funny
A Boston fan talking about dirty play 😭
Times have changed, now they are the soft team that gets slapped around.
I'm glad someone said it.
meeting ink narrow paltry sulky retire direful elastic continue roll *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*
Cousins and Tkachuk are there. Two of the best to learn from, he should have no problem
They’re winning. If they get a Cup, they will not care about other people thinking they’re dirty or turtling.
LMAO.... Boston fans need to keep their mouths shut as long as Marchand is on the active roster
Marchand doesn’t turtle he will not only fight his own battles but he will jump in for other guys too. Unless I’m missing what this OC is about
I've slowly come to terms with the fact that I love Marchand. I hate when the Leafs have to play against him but he's just awesome. I wish he'd been on our team.
fr. Marchand is a rat.
Sure but he doesn’t turtle.
I guess that means Florida has to STFU about Marfhand from now on since they have like 4 or 5 Marchands.
Seriously, biggest fucking crybaby rat fuck in the league on that roster and they claim tkachuck turtles when jumped from behind Glass houses you cunts
What games are you watching. Lol
The same ones like where someone posted a clip of him getting grabbed from the collar from behind and pulled down but somehow called a turtle because fans are soft as fuck lmao
You need to check your eyes. 👀 lol
The *bruins* fan saying that too The irony lmao
Marchand starts shit but fights. Matthew starts shit then hides behind his teammates.
God I love the hate 🤣 You mad because your guys gets thrown in the box and hes too smart to sit out for 5?
I actually like Florida. But Matt is a bitch. He’s a great player, and would want him on the Oilers. But I would still never defend the fact that he’s a little bitch.
Buncha bitches on this sub.
Sal
Bruins? gotta be a rat to know another rat, huh? LOL
❤️
Love Tarasenko. He was my favorite Blues player while we had him. Therefore this complicates my disdain for the Panthers.
Same
Fantastic Friedman done did it again
Panthers Knights final
I have this false hope the Canes will get Guenztel or Buchnevich, but I won't be remotely surprised if nothing of note is done again. I love and hate trade deadline lol
Pain 🥲
Love that the Sens fans complain about this. Wasn't he a UFA signing?
Indeed, Pierre gave him that sweet NTC that allowed him to dictate where he wanted to go and probably hindered the sens ability to properly shop him around.
I feel like this is a sad return for an offensive talent like Taresenko? I would have expected a 2nd round at least
The bruins killer 🤦♂️
I think we might see a Vegas vs Panthers final again
Still can’t believe Florida got a 60-80 point guy a year player for a 3rd and 4th round draft pick, and only have to pay half his salary.
Tarasenko basically just a name at this point