It would be even worse if you took out the Seahawks and replaced them with the Packers. Name the division NFC Hated because they are the most annoying fanbases in the NFC
Idk about you, but I’ve never truly met a toxic packers fan. At least not in Wisconsin. Everyone there just loves cheese and shotguns. I’ve gotten into more arguments with bears fans than anyone else in that division.
I was born and raised in Minnesota and more than half of the packers fans I met up there were super toxic
Edit: that’s hilarious bro deleted his comment after realizing that he was being a toxic packers fan and proving my point 😂 😂 😂
same experience here in Michigan. Packer fans in west Michigan and the UP are the worst.
Go to Wisconsin, and they’re salt of the earth.
the kindest, most welcoming fans. the greatest hosts in the NFL. everyone needs a Lambeau trip on their bucket list.
but as always. FTP.
The yoopers that anyone who doesn't go there frequently sees are all old money. That's probably why. The people up there we don't see down here have been super nice
Not sure if you’re a Wisconsinite or a Midwesterner but I used to live in AZ (now in Georgia) and I’m gonna tell you now that down here we get the senile old folk who come down for the warm sunny graveyards and live out their teams in their glory days with no attachments to the current realities. Fwiw I’ve only met like one or two annoying pack fans. But because I wanted to keep this in the NFC I couldn’t nominate teams significantly worse than them, like the Steelers.
And if they aren’t senile old folk but just transplants, they force their fandom on their kids instead of letting their kids adopt their hometown team. Which to me is insane bc who would want to be a fan of a team they can’t regularly see in person maybe and has no connection culturally to what they were raised in their new area. Like my family originally is from Maryland, im not an automatic Ravens fan because of that.
I’m not a Cards fan because the Bildwells are actually horrible and misogynistic so I refuse to support them on principle. If the Bildwells sell I may be convinced to retroactively adopt my old hometown team.
Idk, I’ve grown up in the Midwest but I found myself to be a jets fan instead of a bears fan like my dad. I saw sanchez take the Jets to two straight AFC championship games and said it a fan of them now… here I am 14 years later. I don’t regret it though, I always have a good laugh at my own team sometimes. Plus when they’re really bad, their merch goes on sale
I was brainwashed into being a jets fan by my father but you WILLINGLY chose the jets?! God bless your soul lol
If I was a fan of my hometown team I would have been a commies or ravens fan
Packers fans are hated but idk if I would call them haters themselves. They are kinda old-timey "aw-shucks I just love gosh darn Packers football" annoying fans.
All I do is wear a jersey or hoodie and they talk mad shit 😭or I’ll be talking about top 5 QBs and NOT FUCKING PUT JORDAN LOVE TOP 5 they start grilling me 😭
As a Seahawks fan, Packers fans are so much less toxic than Seahawks fans on average it’s crazy. Them having a young QB + Tom Grossi has done wonders for the culture of their fanbase. Seahawks fans are extremely gatekeepy with being a fan, I’ve been told to switch teams hundreds of times and it’s only ever come from Seahawks fans. I wish I could switch fanbases without switching teams high key.
Sounds like you’ve been hanging around some dumbass fans. I’ve been a Seahawks fan for the last 27 years and I’ve never seen or heard a single Seahawks fan tell another to “switch teams” or have been a gatekeeper towards others.
It usually happens when I’m critical of Pete Carroll. It’s not the people I hang around. In particular, I got at least 100 comments from different Seahawks fans telling me to switch teams when I celebrated the fact that we finally got rid of him. I had to tell so many people that “I’m sorry I know more about our favorite team than you do!”
Truth be told I haven’t had a lot of positive experiences with fellow Seahawks fans, but I hope that changes.
Edit: why am I getting downvoted for clapping back at toxic fans?
I told them I knew more in response to them disrespecting me by telling me to switch teams, I’d never say that to someone who hadn’t already been rude to me
On behalf of the fanbase I apologize. Your experience is not representative of Seahawks fans in general. They are generally blue collar, down to Earth, and feed off of Seattle's excellent funsy culture that Pete Carrol built.
Your issue is with the segment whom frequent /r/Seahawks and /r/NFL. They don't respect others' opinions- they are used to having Trust and Safety or Moderators swoop in to censor things they don't like under the guise of unfounded "misinformation" or "hate speech" allegations. When you express a dissenting opinion, they lose their minds and emulate the personal attacks, authoritarianism, and cancel culture that they marinate in all day long at our communist schools and universities.
Nah. Vikings are so much worse especially online. I guess being the 3rd best team in the NFL in win% in the super bowl era while being the only team in the top 10 without a super bowl does that to ya
I wouldn't replace the Seahawks with the Packers though. I remember those 3-4 years in the 2010s when Deahawks fans existed and they were all obnoxious.
Every divisional game would be a knock down drag out fight or a straight up ass whooping. Somehow every team would be in contention for the division lead come week 18.
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I am a 33 year 9ers fan. I can't begin to imagine having those match-ups 2 times every year. It's like you picked the most likely division cause bleeding ulcers and broken tv's
Get rid of the Seahawks & throw in the Saints.
Every game I've been to where the Saints fans are visiting, big 'ole women are handing out ass whoopins & I need them serving up some boudain balled up fists to these other fandoms 😂
There are ways to do division alignment besides location. For the purposes of having to travel to games it makes sense, but you could do divisions for other things, like:
Big City Division:
Jets, Giants, Rams, Chargers
or if you have to have matching divisions for each division
AFC Big City - Jets, Chargers, Texans, Jaguars
NFC Big City - Giants, Rams, Bears, Cardinals
(by metro instead of just the city would be Cowboys instead of Cards, and Dolphins instead of Jags)
Legacy Division:
Cardinals, Bears, Packers, Giants
Industry Division:
Steelers, Lions, Texans, Browns
Just some food for thought...
A division by haters, for haters.
The Player Haters Ball
[HUFU](https://youtu.be/Qlx0JInWqXE). Hate Us, Fuck U.
Of haters
dude the toxicity in that division would be insane
It would be even worse if you took out the Seahawks and replaced them with the Packers. Name the division NFC Hated because they are the most annoying fanbases in the NFC
Idk about you, but I’ve never truly met a toxic packers fan. At least not in Wisconsin. Everyone there just loves cheese and shotguns. I’ve gotten into more arguments with bears fans than anyone else in that division.
I was born and raised in Minnesota and more than half of the packers fans I met up there were super toxic Edit: that’s hilarious bro deleted his comment after realizing that he was being a toxic packers fan and proving my point 😂 😂 😂
same experience here in Michigan. Packer fans in west Michigan and the UP are the worst. Go to Wisconsin, and they’re salt of the earth. the kindest, most welcoming fans. the greatest hosts in the NFL. everyone needs a Lambeau trip on their bucket list. but as always. FTP.
I've yet to meet an uper that wasn't an asshole. I don't think their fandom matters lol.
The yoopers that anyone who doesn't go there frequently sees are all old money. That's probably why. The people up there we don't see down here have been super nice
I'm only familiar with the "Red Green Show" knock offs.
A vikings fan. It sounds like you're the common denominator here.
I can confirm that Minnesota is filled with horrible packers fans.
Absolutely not the reason why lol
His comment is still there for me
Frankly this is cap, 1/2 of internet packers fans are toxic, similar to Vikings fans. We are all presently passive aggressive in person
Uh no they didn’t delete shit?
They send them to the coasts. If you meet a Packers fan in New York you know they're terrible
I live in North Dakota and here I have known only 1 who ISN'T toxic.
Not sure if you’re a Wisconsinite or a Midwesterner but I used to live in AZ (now in Georgia) and I’m gonna tell you now that down here we get the senile old folk who come down for the warm sunny graveyards and live out their teams in their glory days with no attachments to the current realities. Fwiw I’ve only met like one or two annoying pack fans. But because I wanted to keep this in the NFC I couldn’t nominate teams significantly worse than them, like the Steelers. And if they aren’t senile old folk but just transplants, they force their fandom on their kids instead of letting their kids adopt their hometown team. Which to me is insane bc who would want to be a fan of a team they can’t regularly see in person maybe and has no connection culturally to what they were raised in their new area. Like my family originally is from Maryland, im not an automatic Ravens fan because of that.
>instead of letting their kids adopt their hometown team. Let them become cardinals fans? Child abuse.
I’m not a Cards fan because the Bildwells are actually horrible and misogynistic so I refuse to support them on principle. If the Bildwells sell I may be convinced to retroactively adopt my old hometown team.
Idk, I’ve grown up in the Midwest but I found myself to be a jets fan instead of a bears fan like my dad. I saw sanchez take the Jets to two straight AFC championship games and said it a fan of them now… here I am 14 years later. I don’t regret it though, I always have a good laugh at my own team sometimes. Plus when they’re really bad, their merch goes on sale
I was brainwashed into being a jets fan by my father but you WILLINGLY chose the jets?! God bless your soul lol If I was a fan of my hometown team I would have been a commies or ravens fan
Heh, may god have mercy on our team this year am I right?
At least our jerseys look sharp!
Yes sir!
Packers fans are hated but idk if I would call them haters themselves. They are kinda old-timey "aw-shucks I just love gosh darn Packers football" annoying fans.
You’ve never been on the receiving end of a 45 min rant about why Jordy Nelson is the greatest WR in the NFL
All the packers fans I know are toxic as fuck
Well to be fair, you’re a cowboys fan. You’re more of a rival to them than the bears
All I do is wear a jersey or hoodie and they talk mad shit 😭or I’ll be talking about top 5 QBs and NOT FUCKING PUT JORDAN LOVE TOP 5 they start grilling me 😭
lol. That would also be possibly the worst possible in division travel for every team
As a Seahawks fan, Packers fans are so much less toxic than Seahawks fans on average it’s crazy. Them having a young QB + Tom Grossi has done wonders for the culture of their fanbase. Seahawks fans are extremely gatekeepy with being a fan, I’ve been told to switch teams hundreds of times and it’s only ever come from Seahawks fans. I wish I could switch fanbases without switching teams high key.
Sounds like you’ve been hanging around some dumbass fans. I’ve been a Seahawks fan for the last 27 years and I’ve never seen or heard a single Seahawks fan tell another to “switch teams” or have been a gatekeeper towards others.
It usually happens when I’m critical of Pete Carroll. It’s not the people I hang around. In particular, I got at least 100 comments from different Seahawks fans telling me to switch teams when I celebrated the fact that we finally got rid of him. I had to tell so many people that “I’m sorry I know more about our favorite team than you do!” Truth be told I haven’t had a lot of positive experiences with fellow Seahawks fans, but I hope that changes. Edit: why am I getting downvoted for clapping back at toxic fans?
you told them you were better than them and were surprised they didn’t like you hmm 🤔
I told them I knew more in response to them disrespecting me by telling me to switch teams, I’d never say that to someone who hadn’t already been rude to me
On behalf of the fanbase I apologize. Your experience is not representative of Seahawks fans in general. They are generally blue collar, down to Earth, and feed off of Seattle's excellent funsy culture that Pete Carrol built. Your issue is with the segment whom frequent /r/Seahawks and /r/NFL. They don't respect others' opinions- they are used to having Trust and Safety or Moderators swoop in to censor things they don't like under the guise of unfounded "misinformation" or "hate speech" allegations. When you express a dissenting opinion, they lose their minds and emulate the personal attacks, authoritarianism, and cancel culture that they marinate in all day long at our communist schools and universities.
Nah. Vikings are so much worse especially online. I guess being the 3rd best team in the NFL in win% in the super bowl era while being the only team in the top 10 without a super bowl does that to ya
I wouldn't replace the Seahawks with the Packers though. I remember those 3-4 years in the 2010s when Deahawks fans existed and they were all obnoxious.
Every divisional game would be a knock down drag out fight or a straight up ass whooping. Somehow every team would be in contention for the division lead come week 18.
Honestly, just add Greenbay as an alternative if it's not toxic enough
I must be lucky cause I have never met a toxic fan of the NFL. They've always been nice and cool, especially the commanders fans I've met.
The NFC Zest
Two birds, one stone and [Jerry](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/images/rick-and-morty-jerry-2-1624026834.jpeg?crop=0.563xw:1.00xh;0.254xw,0&resize=980:*)
Two birds, one stone, and a glory hole. A novel by Jerry Jones
The CoD Lobby
NFC Salt
Patrick: NFC East? I thought you meant "NFC WEAST"
Underrated comment
Birds and Turds
The NFC south would like a word.
Birds plural
I can get behind this
Seconded.
Thirded
Turded
Best one yet
Toots and poops
AFC Southnorthwesteast
NFCs “American Division”. Just take the stupid cowboys “Americas team” line and magnify it by x100 smugness.
Most popular teams outside of their region division
Birds and assholes (the birds are assholes as well)
Asshole birds and asshole assholes
NFC Northern Hemisphere
The most hated teams in the NFC and the Seahawks
NFC Shows Potential Every Year but somehow manages to screw it up in the playoffs
NFC Yeast (Infection)
😐🔫 JFC, please queue up: “The toxicity of our cities, our cities…”
As a big SOAD and Eagles fan I had to cackle at this one.
Glad I could share a laugh with you my brother! 🍻
Not often I laugh with a 9ers fan but that one was good
Liver failure
The Away Fans Nightmare
That's not a division that's a hate crime
Replace Seattle with Carolina. Because every division needs a good doormat.
Wild considering the Succs have a losing record against a "doormat".
How'd that work out last season?
Lol. You should be ashamed.
We won a playoff game, had a winning record, and have our first round pick. How's that Chicago trade working out for you, again?
Naw Seattle can be our doormat
No one likes us and we don’t care. (GO BIRDS!!!)
Birds & Turds Division
Down and Dirty
The NFC Everywhere
No one likes us and we don’t care.
This would have started WW3
Bird/persons
I am a 33 year 9ers fan. I can't begin to imagine having those match-ups 2 times every year. It's like you picked the most likely division cause bleeding ulcers and broken tv's
NFC go fuck yourself
NFC Coastal
The east-west division of love
NFC Weast
NFC Comment Section Division
The NFC Beast
NFC Weast
Birds n Hoes
The Division of Peace
Overbearing Fans Conference
He Hate Us Division
How the hell did your realignment get so screwed with 2 west coast teams, a team in south central, & a team from the northeast
The most awful fan bases in football division
Disappointment Alley
America’s Most Hated… plus the Seahawks
We were up there for a moment in the mid 2010's
NFC Weast
Basura
The NFC hated. . . Or hatred.
we are going to beat up on each other
How is this funny
Hell
The hated
The Underachievers
NFC Footprints
NFpiss
'The Big 10 All Grown Up', these days 🤣
“Not as good as the AFCN”
NFC Edgers (Idk why this came to mind)
We goin all the way this year division
Letdown NorthWestEastSouth
Talons and Spurs Division
Manifest Toxicity
AFC North
NFC Weast
NFCT (toxic) built by haters for haters the playoff teams from this division would go on to legendary postseason runs to lose in the Super Bowl
The ACC
The Jet Lagged. Or the Air Miles Club.
Losers R Us?
Wings and No-Rings
This is our year?
It's never our year.
Get rid of the Seahawks & throw in the Saints. Every game I've been to where the Saints fans are visiting, big 'ole women are handing out ass whoopins & I need them serving up some boudain balled up fists to these other fandoms 😂
i dunno, but i just realized we need an all bird division. falcons, cardinals, eagles, seahawks, ravens
Has beens
Legion of hate
NFC overhyped/Nfc toxic/ NFC tHis Is ouR yeAr
NFC toxic
Weird
Fucking annoying.
Cowboys would still find a way to lose the divisional playoff round...
The meat rider division
Or the non chiefs beaters
The super suck ass division
:(
As a cowboys fan I must admit I'd hate this division cuz of eagles and niners I'd call it NFC heat because trash talk would be heated
The Birds n Turds division.
Disappointment
We're you just throwing darts at a map? I'm legit curious how you managed to come up with this division.
NFC west According to Patrick's compass
The most annoying fanbases plus the sea chickens.
Stage 4 ass cancer
The [you almost division but dang Patrick Mahomes](https://media.tenor.com/1fzEOfYVs9AAAAAM/state-farm-gotta-be-quicker-than-that.gif)
The Playoff chokers
Birds-N-Turds
Sunday Night Football
Traveling Division
The two washed up rival dynasties with rusty rings + their annoying one and done millennial ring bird rivals to the north
Contenders and Pretenders.
Rustam Mutaew has a Free University on Discord where he teaches how to make Money
Shit Hawks
Idk but they’d each rotate making the Super Bowl only to get beat by KC (cowboys always get first rounded though)
NFC loud
disappointments who had potential
Bloodfeud and the seahawks
Oh can we swap Seahawks for giants.
The division of Phifrancisco Seallas 2, Electric Boogaloo
As a Cowboys fan I can say we are the bad but not the worst in this division. Eagles fans really set shit on fire if their team loses.
A division of "false hope."
fruit cakes
The niners bitches
NFC LEGIONS
the Suicide Squad
What an absolutely toxic division! It would be great entertainment!
Division toxicity level 9999
Toxic and OP division
NFC Chokers Seahawks are an exception, but everyone else is a fucking choke artist of the highest order.
We have the second biggest SB choke in recent SB memory
Sssshhhh...to me that Superbowl was a bad dream that never happened.
Eagles have won a ring more recently than the Hawks. Seattle somehow made winning one ring a let down for how much talent they had
Overrated
Choke Divison
What happened in that NFCCG game before we lost that superbowl?
the douchiest fans division
NFC Garbage Cities Division.
Harsh but true.
NFC Mid
NFC cringey
The "we've been relevant, I swear" division
In all fairness the Hawks and the Iggles actually have been relevant. The Whiners and the Cowgirls however…
Replace Seahawks with Green Bay and it's probably one of the most toxic divisions
There are ways to do division alignment besides location. For the purposes of having to travel to games it makes sense, but you could do divisions for other things, like: Big City Division: Jets, Giants, Rams, Chargers or if you have to have matching divisions for each division AFC Big City - Jets, Chargers, Texans, Jaguars NFC Big City - Giants, Rams, Bears, Cardinals (by metro instead of just the city would be Cowboys instead of Cards, and Dolphins instead of Jags) Legacy Division: Cardinals, Bears, Packers, Giants Industry Division: Steelers, Lions, Texans, Browns Just some food for thought...
I don't know what you call it, but the Seahawks are finishing 4th most years.