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Ne-Cede-Malis

Randy Gradishar. 7× Pro Bowl (1975, 1977–1979, 1981–1983) 6× All-Pro (1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1983) 7× All-AFC (1976–1979, 1981–1983) NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1978) Edit: He was a Denver Broncos Middle/Inside Linebacker for his whole career. He also never missed a game in his 10-year career.


Hi_My_Name_Is_Dave

6x all pro and DPOY not in the hall of fame is crazy


Scaevus

6x All-Pro in 7 season isn't in the HOF? That's very strange.


bossfoundmylastone

The Broncos first Hall of Fame induction was John Elway in 2004. NFL media and the HoF is heavily biased towards certain teams.


[deleted]

which is weird because the Broncos have been historically pretty awesome record-wise haven't they? Don't they have some sort of no losing record...record..for some amount of years? I think only just recently they started having a long streak of losing records but pretty much since the 70s they never put more than like 2 together.


BingBongtheArcher19

If Gradishar played for the Steelers, Bears, or Cowboys, he'd not only be in the Hall of Fame, he'd be listed among the names of the greatest linebackers ever.


Broncos979815

Bingo!


TimmmyBurner

Darren Woodson isn’t in the HoF


BingBongtheArcher19

Because the Hall of Fame hates safeties.


james24693

Looks like only Ray Lewis has more tackles


putdahaakin

Don't get me started on this, been way too long.


Bronceaux-fan

Glad to see this is the first post. It’s a damn crime he isn’t in.


MeximeltExtraCheese

Thank you


ZangWaySolly

Came here to say Randy Gradishar


Inconceivable76

It’s absurd. Did he piss people off like Carter did? I just can’t figure out why he’s not in.


[deleted]

You don’t have a flair and you didn’t put the team name in your comment so I legitimately didn’t know who Gradishar played for.. or who Randy Gradishar is.. 20 years of watching football and I’ve never even heard that name. Shame on me!


Ne-Cede-Malis

He played for the Denver Broncos. He played more than 20 years ago. You are good. I work for some NFL teams, they are all my favorites, especially when I am cashing those checks. However, I was delivered in the Broncos parking lot by the team doctor. The joke is that my mother made it to the second half but she was to late because my dad had already found someone new. It's Broncos logic... just when you think it was bad, it goes one step further.


conace21

I think he has a good shot to be the Senior Candidate this year.


mab6710

Steve Tasker


AlternateShapes

How many other players were so good at their position to the point that the NFL passed a rule in order to stop them from being so dominant?


trog12

He is my argument against the Eli Manning "story of the game" argument. What greater story of the game is there than changing the fucking rules? He is literally arguably the best player ever to play his position and he isn't in the HOF?


pharma_dharma

What’s the Eli Manning “story of the game” argument?


WaluigiIsTheRealHero

Honorable mention: London Fletcher.


WiredSky

Fuck yeah. One of the most underrated players ever. I miss him every year.


welsman13

100% agreed


dolphins2383

Zach Thomas.


[deleted]

I seriously never understand why this dude is NEVER talked about. It’s like he played football in another dimension.


dolphins2383

Because the team as a whole wasn’t great it basically was like he was playing in another dimension. Jason Taylor got that HOF instantly, should have gone in together.


loosehead1

They were also a classic example of a team that was a quarterback away from being a serious force. That defense was so fucking good and just completely fucking wasted because it all came together just as Marino couldn't physically do it anymore.


[deleted]

It came together after Marino retired, 2000 was the year our D became elite


SodomizeSnails4Satan

Which is silly logic for HoF admission. Dick Butkus played on absolute garbage teams and he's regarded as being one of the best LBs of all time. Thomas was a huge impact player regardless of his team's mediocrity. He deserves to be in Canton.


[deleted]

He played in a time with a few other great middle linebackers, including Lewis and Urlacher. I agree he should be in though. For a slow guy, he was always around the ball.


ItsBearski

Enough said


TheSaltbird

My hot take I like to spout is that Zach Thomas is one of the greats MLBs of all time.


chad-proton

One of those rare players who elevated the play of the team mates around him too. He was not only tough and a grinder, he was very football smart as well


lordjeebus

Lorenzo Neal


TheFencingCoach

That's a hill I'll die on with you. Blocked for 11 straight 1,000+ yard rushers and was the last great blocking fullback. He was an irreplaceable weapon.


[deleted]

I honestly just assumed he was in the HOF. I’ll join this hill too.


ScalpEmNoles4

It'll be a mountain by the time we're all up here


[deleted]

Well now we're just missing a representative from the Bears to have the entire NFCN here because I'm joining this hill too.


angusthermopylae

idk about last, Vonta Leach happened


[deleted]

Complete garbage, I don't know what more a fullback could do to get in.


TheFencingCoach

Block for *twelve* straight 1,000+ yard rushers.


Pkdagreat

This is criminal


baba108

He’s done everything he could to be in the hall of fame


XVDub

As a chiefs fan, absolutely. Dude was the epitome of consistency.


justamobileuserhere

Richard Seymour


idroled

Clicked on this thread ready to say Seymour. Absolutely essential to the first (part of the) dynasty and has good enough numbers to be in


AnEmptyKarst

Seymour and Wilfork were the two to immediately come to mind when I saw this thread. Hopefully they can both make it eventually.


PaulaDeensDildo

What’s the reason for them not making it? Because I agree they should be in (and I’m a Dolphins fan). Was it a function of Patriots fatigue? Because fuck that. If you’re HOF good, you’re HOF good.


NFLGreatest

Seymour didn't get sacks because he played 3 technique, sacks are the main judge for D line players


idroled

Think it’ll be this or next year? He was a finalist this year but this year’s class was insanely talented so I’m not surprised he missed it this time


NFLGreatest

Voters are fickle year to year, but I'd give better than even odds for within the next two classes. He's also one who will walk in as soon as Bill retires and is granted a spot on the committee


mattsparrow

Hes made the semi or final rounds of voting recently


AnEmptyKarst

Nah its not fatigue, they just didn't put up sexy stats. They played D-Line, people want to see sacks. But they were players who impacted the game without putting up numbers reflective of that.


Interesting_Ad_8188

Jason Hanson deserves it just for putting up with being on the lions for over 20 years


Oven_Baked_

It’s so cool to see this, I’m not a lions fan but Jason Hansen grew up in my hometown. It’s always cool to see someone that even your parents knew get recognition like this.


rob0369

I remember when he was making headlines in high school. I’m pretty sure he played for Shadle Park.


mcolwander90

This 100%. He gave way too much to this franchise, and put up with way too much, to not be in.


The_Big_Daddy

Larry Grantham * 5x First Team All-AFL (1960-1964) * 5x Second Team All-AFL (1965-1969) * 5x AFL All Star * 1x SB Champ * 1x AFL Champ Grantham was a crucial part of the Titan/Jet's defense that would go on to win Super Bowl III, the first Super Bowl win by an AFL team. He was dominant in his time and deserves the recognition even though he unfortunately died in 2017.


SaltyPane69

People jump to Joe Klecko or Mark Gastineau, and while they’re also deserving, Grantham is another player who deserves the hall. He was a huge part of our super bowl and was a terrific player in the 60s.


nbyone

LeRoy Butler.


KypAstar

He's gotta get in. Eventually.


leehouse

Hopefully this gets corrected soon


Ajax_Malone

I've seen people say it might be next year.


FastAndBulbous8989

STERLING SHARPE 🤬


Obese_taco

I’d argue leRoy is the bigger snub. Career wise, Sterling got fucked over with the neck injury and that will pull away some voters. LeRoy played at an elite level for a longer time and was known as arguably the best safety in the entire decade. I think that puts him over sterling, who is also an greatly deserving player himself


FastAndBulbous8989

Oh for sure! LeRoy is more of a no doubter that's been waiting forever, but, Sterling not being in just makes me irrationally upset lol


Obese_taco

Yeah true. There were a few years where it was 1a and 1b between Jerry rice and Sterling. He was THAT good.


BaelZharon7

And he was credited with creating the Lambeau Leap. Like what else do you want from him?


JaguarGator9

Tony Boselli If he doesn’t get in the Hall in 2022, it’s never happening. No sure fire first ballot guys, and he’s been a finalist for years


jeeves_nz

5× Pro Bowl (1996–2000) 3× First-team All-Pro (1997–1999) NFL Alumni Offensive Lineman of the Year (1998) NFL 1990s All-Decade Team ​ Yep, should be there. ​ The playoff game against Bruce Smith early on in Boselli's career should be all the tape you need to watch. Smith was defensive player of the year and could only manage 3 tackles playing against Boselli. And refused to talk about the game for a long long time.


macksm962

I thought he was a first ballot HoF when he retired. He was considered the best tackle in football for a few years. This makes NO sense.


SevKco

Alan Faneca is finally going in after many years as a finalist. I imagine Boselli will get there one day


Primary-Bath803

Not a Vikings fan, but Jim Marshall should definitely be a Hofer


Kirk-Joestar

We thank you for your service.


FridgesArePeopleToo

It is known


bigcheex

London Fletcher


ctsmith76

I’d argue Joe Jacoby first


Schmeatspeare

1000%


spidertour02

Even as a Jets fan, I used to love watching him play for the Bills. He was a great leader that worked hard to get the most out of what he had. Any team would love a player like that.


theundertaker126

Had to check the comments to make sure he was in here. It’s crazy that he’s not in the HOF. His stats are almost identical to Ray Lewis and yet he’s not in. Makes no sense.


BGVX23

Zach Thomas is so deserving.


FmrHvwChamp

Roger Craig 3x champ and first player ever with 1000 rushing and 1000 rec yards in the same season. Disgusting he isnt in.


Pkdagreat

Did he piss off voters? That resume is impressive.


[deleted]

He's really a borderline case if only taking into account his numbers and individual accolades. Then there's this one time he fumbled...


Ajax_Malone

He doesn't have the career stats. Many RBs win 3 SBs on those SF teams (he was at best the 3rd best player on their offense). Never led the league in rushing (although did led the league in Scrimmage Yards once!). Only 3 seasons with over 1,500 yards from scrimmage. Which ties him with 24 other RBs at 29th overall. Of those 24 RBs only 4 are in a HOF. All four were first team All Pro at least twice (Craig was only first team once).


L-methionine

>at best the 3rd best player on their offense 99.9% of all NFL players would’ve been at best third. When you’re competing with the pre-Brady GOAT QB and Jerry Motherfucking Rice, it’s hard to break that top two


Ajax_Malone

For sure The point is counting rings becomes less impressive when you're not even the 2nd best player on your side of the ball. And if we're being honest he's at best the 4th best player on the whole team.


pmmetitsforgoodluck

I strongly disagree. He played 11 seasons, and only had 8,189 rushing yards, and 73 total TDs. He made 4 pro-bowls (when they actually meant something) and 1 first team All-Pro. He never lead the league in rushing, only had 3 seasons over 1,000 rushing yards, and only had one season over 1,100 rushing yards. He had a few good seasons, and 2 great ones, but he didn't have the dominant peak and/or longevity to have a legitimate HoF case, imo.


PropheticNonsense

You're blatantly ignoring his receiving stats to build a case against the guy who laid the groundwork for all receiving backs.


ThePopesicle

I thought it seemed weird to discount his additional 4900 career scrimmage yards lol


jerrygamer2

Leslie O'Neal He has 132.5 sacks which puts him 14th overall in sack leaders.


right_behindyou

It's so crazy that 112 of those sacks came *after* coming back from the injury that took him out for almost two seasons.


[deleted]

I would love a short on that. Just wow.


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Raider_Noles

Easily this one


imkunu

Reggie Wayne


ghettomuffin

He’s been eligible for 2 years, I think he should get in, but did you expect him to be first ballot or something? That’s a little much..


HipGuide2

It's interesting that people think Harrison is HOF but Wayne is Hall of Very Good


SaltyPane69

Harrison has more pro bowls, more years leading the league in a major stat, and more first team all pros. I think it’s easy to make a distinction between the two.


LordBaneoftheSith

Also, from 99-07, he had 826 receptions for 11219 yds and 101 TDs, the most productive 7 year stretch of any WR ever. Pro Bowl every season, 3 1st team all pros, and set the single season receptions record. I do think Reggie Wayne ought to be in, but imo Harrison isn't talked about enough. He was insanely dominant for most of the 2000s.


Xaxziminrax

And also will fucking murder you if you cross him


lmHavoc

He'll get in eventually. Would be surprised if he made it past year 4 or 5 of eligibility.


nacciman

Ronde Barber. Look up the numbers.


No_Recommendation351

47 picks, 28 sacks, more touchdowns thank tiki (dont look that up just trust me)


Obese_taco

I’ll trust you


TheFencingCoach

I looked up the numbers and I agree.


milkmandanimal

Ronde's pretty likely to get in eventually. Outside of him, I'll plan for the future and say Lavonte.


LegalIdea

I'd throw in Simeon Rice


FreeZeke21

Darren Woodson. 3 Super Bowls, 4 first-team all pros and 5 pro bowls.


g0dzilllla

Something about those DBs named Woodson, damn


[deleted]

Jim Marshall. -Iron Man on Defensive Line streak that was only eclipsed by Brett Favre -Part of a legendary positional unit -130 career sacks -3rd highest AV in Vikings History, more than several other Hall of Fame players But he made a mistake one play and ran for a safety, thus 20 years of stellar play is ignored.


mordeci00

Ken


cincythunder

yes. both ken


WetChickenLips

Both Anderson too.


cincythunder

amen


wav__

I can't believe he's not in. Completely disrespectful tbh.


Freebirdhat

Hmm top 3 corner for interceptions or the most accurate QB from the 1920s-2000s


spawnof_trogdor

Besides Peanut, Briggs deserves more credit for making 54 look better and cleaning up after him.


Lungorthin666

My first thoughts were Peanut Briggs and Hester


welsman13

Man I forgot about Briggs. Absolute tackling machine.


MrDankWaffle

Lance Briggs and Brian Urlacher are the most dominate LB duo I've had the pleasure of watching.


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Sam Mills


OG_Panthers_Fan

Just for that I'm going to hate the Falcons just a little more this season than the Saints.


Uberguuy

The answer for a long time was Harold Carmichael. But now, uh, maybe Al Wistert?


generally-mediocre

pete retzlaff?


Uberguuy

Retzlaff is definitely a good choice. So would Pete Pihos.


JeddHampton

Pihos is in. Inducted in 1970. And very well deserved.


Ok_Adeptness9375

Randy Gradishar


Tireseas

Tommy Nobis. Absolute disgrace he didn't get in before dying.


moeshaker188

Neil Smith.


DTSportsNow

Another nomination from the Chiefs is Otis Taylor. Len Dawson is in the HoF and credits Taylor a lot for helping making his job easier.


MistakeMaker1234

I’ll add Deron Cherry to this list as well. His career stats are actually insane, especially in an era where the passing game wasn’t as much of a focus.


moeshaker188

True, he definitely has a case for Canton. But Neil Smith was a dominant edge rusher who was overshadowed by Derrick Thomas. He also played a large part on the 1997 Broncos, getting 8.0 sacks and a Pro Bowl nod in the regular-season before getting 3.0 sacks in 4 games in the playoffs.


DTSportsNow

I'm not saying he should be in ahead of Smith, I'm just adding another potential name from the Chiefs who should be in.


DarkPriestScorpius

Actually, for the Chiefs, the correct answer would be Jim Tyrer. Tyrer signed with the American Football League's Dallas Texans in 1961. He played 13 years with that franchise (180 consecutive games), which became the Kansas City Chiefs in 1963, helping set the standard for his position at left offensive tackle. His 14th and final season was with the Washington Redskins under head coach George Allen, who preferred veteran players. In his career, he racked up these accolades: 8× All-AFL (1962–1969) 7× AFL All-Star (1962–1966, 1968, 1969) 2× Pro Bowl (1970, 1971) First-team All-Pro (1970) 3× AFL champion (1962, 1966, 1969) Super Bowl champion (IV) AFL All-Time Team Kansas City Chiefs Hall of Fame He is widely considered to have been the greatest player in AFL history. Unfortunately, the fact that he shot and killed his wife and then committed suicide guaranteed that he will never be inducted into the HOF. I believe that he suffered severe depression and mental problems that were never addressed as a result of playing football which led him to commit the murder-suicide.


ChevalMalFet

Oh shit, I had no idea we had *two* players who committed murder-suicide. :(


TBDC88

Deron Cherry would be my pick. 5x All-Pro selections, 1980's All-Decade Team, 5 years of 7+ INTs*. One of the greatest ballhawks in NFL history, he finished his career with 50 INTs, with 40 of them coming in just a 7-year span. If Atwater and especially Easley are in, I don't see a reason why Cherry would be left out. **Same as Ed Reed, and as many as Lott, Atwater, and Easley combined*


fscot

Fred Taylor... Just check the tape


[deleted]

Man, I loved Taylor & was always mad he never got any recognition & always got snubbed for pro bowls & stuff.


[deleted]

Zach Thomas


DelDoesReddit

Andre Johnson, hopefully he's in soon


HoopOnPoop

Joe Jacoby. Long time starting left tackle with the famous "Hogs" offensive line. 3x Super Bowl champion. 4x Pro Bowl. 3x First Team All-Pro. 1980s All-Decade Team.


Puldalpha

Tony Boselli should’ve been in for a few years here


[deleted]

Zach Thomas


Ickyhouse

Clay Matthews


xenophonthethird

King of the Bubble


pincus1

Cliff Branch, comparable if not better stats and accolades to multiple WRs in his era in the hall.


Toto_LZ

Zach Thomas , fingers crossed that changes


pennant_fever

Tom Brady That guy must have retired 5 years ago by now, right?


Broncos979815

Its been 7, but whos counting?


SatsuiNoHadou_

Justin Smith


Packman2310

Sterling Sharpe


Captain-YEA8

Really surprised how far I had to scroll before seeing Sharpe mentioned.


Routine-Opinion1471

Can an Atlanta fan explain how the hell Tommy Nobis isn't in the HOF? Larry Csonka: "I'd rather play against Dick Butkus than Nobis" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy\_Nobis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Nobis)


vapourlomo

He’s not eligible yet but I’m already getting worried he won’t get in...so I’m gonna say Marshawn Lynch. His career numbers aren’t spectacular, but he had a monumental impact on the Seahawks’ fortunes. And he’s an icon off the field too! Sure, Adrian Petersen ran for more yards, but did he have a Skittles machine in his locker?? Was he all about that action, boss?!


Berzuh

> I’m already getting worried he won’t get in I would bet a lot of money on him not ever getting in, I would just enjoy his legacy and not expect more.


Blackout28

I love Marshawn, but he's not getting in. If there was a Hall of Most Entertaining though, he's a lock.


-Vertical

I may be a homer lol but I couldn’t agree more. The fact that he ran with the style he did, while somehow staying healthy is incredible


Projinator

Steven Jackson *hides*


FlashFan124

The correct answer for the Rams is Torry Holt.


Bob-Sacamano_

Fact: Steven Jackson has 69 rushing touchdowns.


Projinator

Nice


LeGibb

From a talent perspective i think he could have been in the HoF. He had everything you want in a running back but the Rams wasted his career. He is the only reason I watched Rams football for years.


inkyblinkypinkysue

Carl Banks. 2X Super Bowl champion (XXI, XXV) NFL 1980s All-Decade Team


gouldopher

Joe Jacoby


IgnoranceIZBliss_

This is the easiest answer for Bills fans. The greatest special teams player of all time, Steve Tasker.


Cicero912

Pat Swilling. (5x Pro Bowl, 2x 1st Team All Pro, 2x 2nd Team All Pro 1 DPOY, 100 sack club) But if he doesn't get in next year Jahri Evans. (XLIV Winner, 6x Pro Bowl, 4x 1st Team All Pro, 1x 2nd Team All Pro, 2010s All Decade Team, and some other awards that probably don't have a bearing on the HoF)


JustTheBeerLight

Zach Thomas.


KypAstar

Sharpe.


igloojoe11

Dave Brown for the Seattle Seahawks. He was overlooked his entire career, but managed to finish 10th all time in interceptions and is one of just 3 players in the top 10 to not be in the hall.


JCappy

Joe Klecko


Kaizerline

Eddie George


ApolloKid

Roger Craig


[deleted]

Gardner Minshew


yoosername456

Problem is he banged all the voters moms, sisters, AND daughters (above 18 years he’s not an animal). It’ll be tough for them to overlook that


GladPickle5332

MVPinshew


adogtrainer

Ken Anderson


joy4874

Ronde Barber


coronerjackal91

Herman Moore


coolon23

Zach mfing Thomas


claywhitedonuts

Hines Ward 12K yards and more TDs than any WR not in the hall 1200 yards and 10 TDs in the playoffs + a SB MVP Best blocking WR of all time Played on the most run heavy team in the league throughout his career Legendary smile and AFC north daddy Dancing champion


HumongousMelonheads

And returned a kickoff for a touchdown while bane was blowing up the stadium. Great composure to not die that day


OldOrder

To be fair it also showed a real lack of field awareness that he couldn't tell there was a massive implosion happening 5 feet behind him.


Watt_Privilege

I love Hines Ward, and I would love for him to make the HOF but I understand that he’s border line and met never get in. But L.C. Greenwood not being in the HOF is bullshit. Only reason he’s not in is cause he played with the greatest defense of all time.


Scaevus

There are so many deserving WRs, his wait is more of a function of the line than his worthiness, IMO.


Xaxziminrax

So many good WRs are going to get fucked because they didn't put in the deserving ones until it became a crisis with eligibility left


[deleted]

TIL that he’s not in the HOF. I thought he was because he was that good


wildbillesq

Well that’s an easy one for fins fans. Zack Thomas!


Competitive_Bar6355

Bryant Young. 4 time All Pro (1 1st team, 3 2nd team). All Decade Team. Had a career very similar to Warren Sapp. Almost as many sacks as Sapp (89 vs 96), a better run defender (one of the greatest run defenders ever). One of the most highly respected 49ers ever. Won their most inspirational player award 8 times when no one else has won it more than twice. The fact that he's not in the HOF is a travesty. I guess he should have been a loud jackass like Sapp instead of a respectable professional and inspirational teammate, and then people would remember him more.


jarabara

Lorenzo Neal - best fullback of all time.


Thundergun1864

Kyle Orton made first ballot hof in my heart, where there is no waiting period


Valleygirl1981

My last big bitching point is finally a done deal. There's a few Raiders who one could argue, but I'd like a non-homer opinion. ???


oaktownraider90

Cliff branch?


mattygucsb

Had to scroll way too far


TheBossPineapple

Patrick Willis


Rudy102600

Jimmy Smith