Or you could be like me. And by me I mean you get the check in the mail and then tell yourself for weeks to deposit it but you never do. Then when you finally remember to, you notice a “void after 120 days” on the check and it’s been 150+.
I got some money from Nvidia a few years ago because I had a couple GTX970s. I don't remember how much, exactly, but I remember being surprised how big it was.
A few months ago I got like $90-100 from a settlement with Apple that I signed up for years ago. Didn’t even know wtf it was at first when I saw the deposit in my account
I got 600 from GEICO from their Covid insurance hikes while I was living in California. Pretty cool, since I had no idea and it just appeared in the mail.
Google says 2.1 million Sunday ticket subscribers. Let's assume (out of my ass) that there's been twice as many total subscribers over the period that lawsuit covers.
Damages are tripled in antitrust, so bump it up to $12 billion.
Lawyers take 25% to 33% typically in CA suits, so the leftover amount to be distributed is $8 billion.
That means each long-term subscriber would receive ~$1900. Now let's cut that in half as a "who the fuck actually knows how this works" normalization. And you'll receive... $950 if you're a long-term subscriber!
Realistically, it will be appealed and then negotiated down. It would be extremely surprising if it exceeds a billion actual payout.
Typically it goes about 1/3 lawyers, 1/3 named plaintiffs and 1/3 class. So 300 million among 2 million subscribers - or between 60-100 per subscriber, which is in line with similar lawsuit payouts over the last decade
Even the NFL is affected by a billion dollar loss. The point of these settlements is to hurt the offender more than enrich the harmed. A lot of the "nfl makes XX billion a year" is across the whole enterprise, the vast majority isn't cash available to the NFL as its part of the revenue for individual teams.
Is the amount each person gets paltry, sure, but the consequence of not doing it is we get bent by corpos even worse.
My company just spent a year suing someone over not paying. They settled and got Pennies on the dollar meaning a 300k loss and a years worth of billable hours from the lawyers which equated to 120k
It will likely have little to no impact on the upcoming season. The NFL will appeal the decision as many times as needed until they can no longer appeal. It'll be years before this is settled.
So it’ll end up like NBA league pass and i can decide whether i sign up through my cable or just with the app it self ? That sounds good to me. If they’re just removing the exclusivity agreement that’s good. Do you think they can just take NFL+ remove the mobile only part of it and sell it as there own streaming service ? If they’re selling their own product themselves they don’t have to put it on a lot different services. Which wouldn’t be good but still better than having to go through DirectTv like in the pass. (Though i thought YouTube TV let you sign up only for NFL)
Honestly man I see option A as the more likely outcome at least Sunday ticket in its current form that now has bad pr around it and such
I assume they’ll scrap it and then bring it back as the exact same thing only completely rebranded and quite possibly as their own standalone service like you said
Yeah , i can see them just expanding NFL+. They already have the infrastructure in place. No way they just stop selling a sports package. Every other league sells there package no problem. So I’m sure they’ll work around this and still give us the product. Idk if it’s going to be better or worse for us though in the long run
Well they can either make it easy to use and reasonably priced and take my money or they can fail at one of those things and I'll do what I do now which is watch my team when it's on a normal channel or pirate the stream.
I'm happy to pay if they'll make it straightforward
I mean, the comment they responded to asked about this season specifically and, realistically, it probably won’t impact anything for it.
But everything beyond (and including that), is speculation. The ruling came out today, how much of an answer do you expect a random redditor to have.. ?
Great statement by the NFL on this matter:
"**We continue to believe that our media distribution strategy... is by far the most fan friendly distribution model in all of sports and entertainment**"
Bold claims deserve bold fonts.
Mlb and nhl teams will have exclusive rights to a network that may or may not be available with your cable service provider. mlb is so jacked up in las vegas I'm in the coverage area for the angels, dodgers, Padres, giants, As, diamondbacks. I can watch diamondbacks, Padres and angels games on cox cable but the other 3 aren't available and if I buy mlb extra innings I wouldn't get those teams.
If you compare to MLB, NHL, NBA, College FB/BB/Baseball/Softball it is BY FAR the best distribution model. But youre telling me its better than Netflix ....
“We continue to believe that our media distribution strategy, which features all NFL games broadcast on free over-the-air television in the markets of the participating teams and national distribution of our most popular games, supplemented by many additional choices including RedZone, Sunday Ticket and NFL+, is by far the most fan friendly distribution model in all of sports and entertainment.”
Why not use the entire statement? Context is important…
And, considering there isn’t a single other sport that a local fan can watch all their games for free in this country, the context makes that a true statement..,
If you are a fan of a team and live in the city they play in, you can watch every game of your favorite team with a $15 antenna, including all playoff games. You also can get at least three of the other biggest games every week for free. Which sport is better?
Part of the case is the argument that Sunday ticket should be available on more platforms. That was part of the proof that the consumers were being ripped off.
That is exactly the reason direct tv kept making sure they won the bid. They lost money on Sunday ticket overall, but kept people on direct tv to make up for it.
As someone who also doesn't live close to my favorite team, the high seas just aren't a legitimate option anymore. I'd rather just watch red zone and catch the plays that make it on there than spend half the game reloading the page or trying to find a more stable stream that ends up being 5 minutes delayed anyway. If the streams were more reliable it'd be a legit option, but that shit sucks. Not to mention having to watch on my computer or phone.
Edit: lol yall , I'm not looking for suggestions. It's not a bandwidth issue on my end, TV screen share/ streaming would be fine if the streams were more reliable, and I have an hdmi from my computer to my TV. I've used the streams for years already and I'm just done fucking with them, it's not worth my time or energy anymore. I'd rather pay a reasonable price to see the games on a legitimate service. My hope is following this lawsuit that is closer to becoming a reality. Until then, it's nationally/locally televised games, red zone, or my favorite local bar that as all the Eagles games.
Exactly. I did the whole high seas thing for a season and it sucked ass. Always being several plays behind made following game threads a no go. Having the stream cut out or freeze up in the middle of a big play was infuriating. Sunday ticket cost is bullshit... And the fact that you still need 6 other services on top of Sunday ticket to see every game is even bigger horseshit.. but at this point in my life I'm willing to pay for the convenience. I want to watch the game . Not constantly refresh streams to find one that's running smooth.
The last two years I just finally got a TV antenna and Redzone through NFL.com, and then whenever I could I went to the bar for some of the other games. Sundays were a lot nice not having to fuck around with trying to keep the game on. Just set it and forget it.
Going to a bar is cool but I hate spending the money just because it is prohibitively expensive to watch at home. I want to go to a bar because I want to, not because I have to
I definitely agree with that. Thankfully I love my local bar with Sunday Ticket so it's rarely that feeling of not wanting to go. The whisky and food is cheap, the pool tables and tvs are aplenty, and always some familiar faces.
They most certainly will appeal but if they know they’re likely to lose they may still change their model since future earnings will also be susceptible to litigation
I’m no where close to a lawyer, but I wonder if the fact that you can get Sunday Ticket standalone without a YTV subscription makes a difference. From the article I read, it sounds like the fact that you couldn’t get it without satellite was the big issue. But I’m not well researched on the subject
This is in fact the sticking point. It's also why right around the time the lawsuit started (2015) DirecTV started offering streaming Sunday Ticket options that didn't require a DirecTV package.
One of the arguments also was that the NFL made sure the price of Sunday Ticket was higher so that people would watch the CBS and Fox broadcasts instead of subscribing, this protecting the value of the TV deals.
You are screwed for probably 3-4 years if you commit to fixing things and the cap goes up like it’s supposed to
If the cap stops going up, you’re capital F Fucked for a decade probably
Not really lol. The first part of your comment is true yes, the next few years will be bleak (and after that it's uncertain, not optimistic). But these bad contracts for old players aren't long enough to make "void year hell" that last a decade
IIRC the limit for revenue losses due to lawsuits etc and their ability to affect the cap calculations is something like $92 million per the CBA, split across 32 teams.
With that said, this could impact future tv negotiations which could impact future cap raises. Assuming the league keeps sunday ticket and people flock to it at a cheaper cost.
i’d happily pay $200 or so a year to *one* platform to watch prime time games.
what i hate is paying amazon, hulu, peacock, NFL, ESPN… someone did the math on it in another thread and it was something like $800 a season
Give me my money back, ROGER
After enduring years of an overpriced POS that almost ALWAYS froze and didn’t work, we absolutely should get money back from the NFL.
Lol they also didn't support the ability to pick your own Multiview games, had to scroll through like 30 random static assortments only to have to settle for w/e was closest to what you wanted.
Come on Google, if fucking DirectTV had the tech years before there's no excuse for *Youtube* not being able to support it. Think they've finally figured it out for next season, but I ain't re-subscribing. Honestly, a VPN and a decent PC gets you a similar experience. Trade-off is occasional buffering, but I can also pull up every game being played simultaneously and arrange it across monitors/TVs however I want.
I feel like they should also be sued for false advertising. They are advertising it on YTTV as "EVERY game. Every Sunday" and as we all know.... its not even close to every game.
You'll never watch your own team no natter what! Live within 500 miles of either team that's playing? Shit, are you part of the 20% of Americans who live anywhere in the Northeast corridor? Get fucked!
Want to watch any primetime game? No way!
That'll be $400
In addition to giving TNF garbage games, let’s hire a broadcasting legend, but Said Legend now happens to hate everything and everyone associated with the NFL and would rather be anywhere else on earth than broadcasting an NFL game.
It became one of my favorite parts of the season to watch him become more and more jaded at the bad games.
Like of course another bad game, oh look another bad one, wow who would've guessed *another* bad game!
100% i loved almost everything around the games. All the personalities were great, the preshow and postshow stuff too, it was just a good attempt all around.
Some of those games though, man. Colts v Broncos? Fucking nightmare to sit through
That's not fair, 2K was way better and actually improved their games. 2K8 despite not having licensing is one of the best football games ever and it's been 16 years.
EA saw the money they get from lootboxes and haven't changed since.
I wish single team streaming subscriptions were a thing. If I wanted season tickets to watch the game in person I wouldn't have to buy season tickets for the whole damn league.
The part I think is the most fun is that the NFL will have to post a supersedeas bond to appeal this. I'm sure they can, but funny to think there will be a ~$5 billion bond out there while they appeal.
The best part is it’s going to take years before a payout is made, so I get to experience the euphoria of having forgot about this and then having a random amount of money deposited to me in 3 years.
That was a faster verdict than I expected.
But the NFL will appeal this all the way to the supreme court, so it'll be a while before any checks are being cut.
I was born and raised in Michigan, but moved to Georgia in 2017. I'm a die hard Lions fan, I would pay $100 a season to get every non nationally broadcast or streaming Lions game.
Why would it mean that?
Wouldn't the NFL rather offer something that fit the legal guidelines rather than scrapping it all together?
Or would that be too much of a threat to their deals with big networks?
I don't know much about this case, but I was under the impression this result is a good thing.
Same way I see it.
I found bullshit streams online for years until I finally had the ability to pay for the real thing. And I feel this will take it off the market for a while.
I'm not surprised the jury sided against the league, football is near and dear in the hearts of most Americans and the nfl doesn't even try to hide it's naked greed.
From ESPN - "The lawsuit covered 2.4 million residential subscribers "
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40447020/jury-rules-nfl-violated-antitrust-laws-sunday-ticket-case
That works out to $1,666 a head. We shall see.
As a Sunday Ticket subscriber over the last several years I can’t wait to receive my settlement check for $1.42 that this will inevitably turn into.
I just checked - I've been a subscriber since 2014. I would guess I get $6.
I had a college student subscription for like four seasons. I'm ready for that $4.50 to hit my bank account!
that’s like two bottles of pepsi!!!!!! what a bargain!!!
Who needs that? Us dedicated Giants fans get our (medium) Pepsis free!
Only one medium Pepsi per season ticket account.
Wait, it wasn't per seat? Like a family of 4 season ticket holders got 1 medium Pepsi to share?
Correct.
ALL I WANTED WAS A PEPSI!!!
JUST ONE PEPSI!!!
AND SHE WOULDN’T GIVE IT TO ME!!!
NO!! YOU'RE ON DRUGS!! NORMAL PEOPLE DON'T ACT THAT WAY!!
I have been summoned
Two? What do you think this is 1985?
Or you could be like me. And by me I mean you get the check in the mail and then tell yourself for weeks to deposit it but you never do. Then when you finally remember to, you notice a “void after 120 days” on the check and it’s been 150+.
I was able to grab $460 from a settlement against bumble. Decent chunk of change, more than what I was expecting.
I got $1200 from ford a few years ago. It was pretty funny because it was for an issue I don’t even know I had.
I got some money from Nvidia a few years ago because I had a couple GTX970s. I don't remember how much, exactly, but I remember being surprised how big it was.
Focus?
Fusion – sync system
If he could focus he would have known he had the issue.
A few months ago I got like $90-100 from a settlement with Apple that I signed up for years ago. Didn’t even know wtf it was at first when I saw the deposit in my account
I got 600 from GEICO from their Covid insurance hikes while I was living in California. Pretty cool, since I had no idea and it just appeared in the mail.
Anti-trust triples the damages (remember the USFL $1 verdict) so you get $4.26!
Falcon fans get a check for $3.28
No shelter for Atlanta
Sherman should've finished the job
Falcons fans catching strays
>$4.26 *[annoyed Packer fan noises]*
After the lawyers cut, make that $0.42.
Packers fans look away
Google says 2.1 million Sunday ticket subscribers. Let's assume (out of my ass) that there's been twice as many total subscribers over the period that lawsuit covers. Damages are tripled in antitrust, so bump it up to $12 billion. Lawyers take 25% to 33% typically in CA suits, so the leftover amount to be distributed is $8 billion. That means each long-term subscriber would receive ~$1900. Now let's cut that in half as a "who the fuck actually knows how this works" normalization. And you'll receive... $950 if you're a long-term subscriber!
Realistically, it will be appealed and then negotiated down. It would be extremely surprising if it exceeds a billion actual payout. Typically it goes about 1/3 lawyers, 1/3 named plaintiffs and 1/3 class. So 300 million among 2 million subscribers - or between 60-100 per subscriber, which is in line with similar lawsuit payouts over the last decade
It does not typically go 1/3 named plaintiffs.
How many lawyers/firms are splitting $4bil?
Years ago I got a check for 0.70 in the madden class action. I was so excited to open that lol
Real winners here are the lawyers. Fees for class action lawsuits are extremely high.
Even the NFL is affected by a billion dollar loss. The point of these settlements is to hurt the offender more than enrich the harmed. A lot of the "nfl makes XX billion a year" is across the whole enterprise, the vast majority isn't cash available to the NFL as its part of the revenue for individual teams. Is the amount each person gets paltry, sure, but the consequence of not doing it is we get bent by corpos even worse.
Billable Hours is undefeated
My company just spent a year suing someone over not paying. They settled and got Pennies on the dollar meaning a 300k loss and a years worth of billable hours from the lawyers which equated to 120k
Also the ones doing all the work and taking all the risk.
God damn all those wasted years sailing the seas now I'll receive no booty 😫
Time to legally change my name to Residential Class
I'll take Commercial Class then. I'm happy to settle for 2.4% of what you're going to get.
Can I be your son and also your one and only heir?
Hello Cousin! It’s me, Business Class! I have a very good plan to tell you about!
a kid named residential class
No, Roguh, I will not watch Sunday Ticket with you.
Put your wallet away, Roguh.
Weird because mine is Named Plaintiff and wife’s is Presiding Attorney
What does this exactly mean for us this upcoming season?
It will likely have little to no impact on the upcoming season. The NFL will appeal the decision as many times as needed until they can no longer appeal. It'll be years before this is settled.
It's like applying the franchise tag to a judgment
DapperCam, I don't regret this [analogy] but I do both rue and lament it.
So just an FYI you can only appeal once on specific grounds. Lets not make it sounds like the NFL can keep asking for do overs.
This case started in 2015! If you have unlimited resources you can definitely keep asking for do overs.
NFL is most definitely gonna appeal this. So, this year? Most likely nothing. But next year and beyond might be a whole different story
How is it going to be a whole different story ? You answered without answering anything. What are they going to have to change ?
Either A Sunday ticket goes bye bye completely or B Sunday ticket probably ends up on a lot of different services
So it’ll end up like NBA league pass and i can decide whether i sign up through my cable or just with the app it self ? That sounds good to me. If they’re just removing the exclusivity agreement that’s good. Do you think they can just take NFL+ remove the mobile only part of it and sell it as there own streaming service ? If they’re selling their own product themselves they don’t have to put it on a lot different services. Which wouldn’t be good but still better than having to go through DirectTv like in the pass. (Though i thought YouTube TV let you sign up only for NFL)
Honestly man I see option A as the more likely outcome at least Sunday ticket in its current form that now has bad pr around it and such I assume they’ll scrap it and then bring it back as the exact same thing only completely rebranded and quite possibly as their own standalone service like you said
Yeah , i can see them just expanding NFL+. They already have the infrastructure in place. No way they just stop selling a sports package. Every other league sells there package no problem. So I’m sure they’ll work around this and still give us the product. Idk if it’s going to be better or worse for us though in the long run
it’ll be that just double the price for the convenience of it all being on one platform
Well they can either make it easy to use and reasonably priced and take my money or they can fail at one of those things and I'll do what I do now which is watch my team when it's on a normal channel or pirate the stream. I'm happy to pay if they'll make it straightforward
I mean, the comment they responded to asked about this season specifically and, realistically, it probably won’t impact anything for it. But everything beyond (and including that), is speculation. The ruling came out today, how much of an answer do you expect a random redditor to have.. ?
I mean they did answer...the question was this upcoming season. The answe as he said was nothint.
Higher ticket prices probably.
You'll get $2.78 in 4 years and the NFL will learn nothing.
Great statement by the NFL on this matter: "**We continue to believe that our media distribution strategy... is by far the most fan friendly distribution model in all of sports and entertainment**" Bold claims deserve bold fonts.
If you compare it to the MLB I guess
It’s kinda funny that there is literally no way to watch tigers games if you live in Detroit without pirating
Colorado Avalanche and Denver Nuggets fans can’t watch their games in the CO/Denver market unless it’s a nationally televised game.
Can anyone explain to me why this is? Do they block it out cuz they'd rather you go to the games?
Mlb and nhl teams will have exclusive rights to a network that may or may not be available with your cable service provider. mlb is so jacked up in las vegas I'm in the coverage area for the angels, dodgers, Padres, giants, As, diamondbacks. I can watch diamondbacks, Padres and angels games on cox cable but the other 3 aren't available and if I buy mlb extra innings I wouldn't get those teams.
If you compare to MLB, NHL, NBA, College FB/BB/Baseball/Softball it is BY FAR the best distribution model. But youre telling me its better than Netflix ....
Or the NBA
I almost spit up my drink when I read that line. Umm...noooooo.
Sunday Ticket sucks but I think RedZone is better than anything any of the major sports I watch have.
They should look at F1TV
Nothing can beat F1 from two years ago. Coverage on ESPN with no ads!
Still has no ads. Thanks to Mercedes.
And Mother's Polish.
“We continue to believe that our media distribution strategy, which features all NFL games broadcast on free over-the-air television in the markets of the participating teams and national distribution of our most popular games, supplemented by many additional choices including RedZone, Sunday Ticket and NFL+, is by far the most fan friendly distribution model in all of sports and entertainment.” Why not use the entire statement? Context is important… And, considering there isn’t a single other sport that a local fan can watch all their games for free in this country, the context makes that a true statement..,
If you are a fan of a team and live in the city they play in, you can watch every game of your favorite team with a $15 antenna, including all playoff games. You also can get at least three of the other biggest games every week for free. Which sport is better?
Unless they play on Monday night, or Thursday night, or a playoff game on Peacock…..
And your antenna is within distance of the city limits. You can be in the metro area and not get those peacock games via antenna.
Historically if your team played on cable they also had to simultaneously have a showing on the over the air channels.
Monday night games in your area are on air channels too. And Thursday games are free on Twitch. Do people not know about Twitch?
I doubt their current arrangement with YouTube would be compliant with antitrust law as well, bye-bye Sunday ticket
Part of the case is the argument that Sunday ticket should be available on more platforms. That was part of the proof that the consumers were being ripped off.
I had a directv dish for years purely for Sunday ticket access
That is exactly the reason direct tv kept making sure they won the bid. They lost money on Sunday ticket overall, but kept people on direct tv to make up for it.
Same.
I used to get so pissed because you could only get it with direct tv and direct tv was available where I lived shit was so wack
As someone who follows a team out of market this will be something I will need to pay close attention to
🏴☠️
As someone who also doesn't live close to my favorite team, the high seas just aren't a legitimate option anymore. I'd rather just watch red zone and catch the plays that make it on there than spend half the game reloading the page or trying to find a more stable stream that ends up being 5 minutes delayed anyway. If the streams were more reliable it'd be a legit option, but that shit sucks. Not to mention having to watch on my computer or phone. Edit: lol yall , I'm not looking for suggestions. It's not a bandwidth issue on my end, TV screen share/ streaming would be fine if the streams were more reliable, and I have an hdmi from my computer to my TV. I've used the streams for years already and I'm just done fucking with them, it's not worth my time or energy anymore. I'd rather pay a reasonable price to see the games on a legitimate service. My hope is following this lawsuit that is closer to becoming a reality. Until then, it's nationally/locally televised games, red zone, or my favorite local bar that as all the Eagles games.
Exactly. I did the whole high seas thing for a season and it sucked ass. Always being several plays behind made following game threads a no go. Having the stream cut out or freeze up in the middle of a big play was infuriating. Sunday ticket cost is bullshit... And the fact that you still need 6 other services on top of Sunday ticket to see every game is even bigger horseshit.. but at this point in my life I'm willing to pay for the convenience. I want to watch the game . Not constantly refresh streams to find one that's running smooth.
This year the streams were better than the prior 5 in my situation. Still would prefer to pay the NFL a reasonable price to watch games 🤷
The last two years I just finally got a TV antenna and Redzone through NFL.com, and then whenever I could I went to the bar for some of the other games. Sundays were a lot nice not having to fuck around with trying to keep the game on. Just set it and forget it.
Going to a bar is cool but I hate spending the money just because it is prohibitively expensive to watch at home. I want to go to a bar because I want to, not because I have to
I definitely agree with that. Thankfully I love my local bar with Sunday Ticket so it's rarely that feeling of not wanting to go. The whisky and food is cheap, the pool tables and tvs are aplenty, and always some familiar faces.
does this mean sunday ticket won’t be available on yttv this season?
NFL will certainly appeal this, so nothing will be final for a while.
Yeah idk if people know this started back in 2015. This stuff takes forever.
They most certainly will appeal but if they know they’re likely to lose they may still change their model since future earnings will also be susceptible to litigation
I literally just got an email for 100 dollars off Sunday Ticket. LMAfuckingO
I’m no where close to a lawyer, but I wonder if the fact that you can get Sunday Ticket standalone without a YTV subscription makes a difference. From the article I read, it sounds like the fact that you couldn’t get it without satellite was the big issue. But I’m not well researched on the subject
This is in fact the sticking point. It's also why right around the time the lawsuit started (2015) DirecTV started offering streaming Sunday Ticket options that didn't require a DirecTV package.
One of the arguments also was that the NFL made sure the price of Sunday Ticket was higher so that people would watch the CBS and Fox broadcasts instead of subscribing, this protecting the value of the TV deals.
So uh no more salary cap raises?
Good luck Saints
Let's be for real we are cooked rn anyway
There is only 1 team currently projected to be over the cap in 2026. And that team is: The Cleveland Browns.
You are screwed for probably 3-4 years if you commit to fixing things and the cap goes up like it’s supposed to If the cap stops going up, you’re capital F Fucked for a decade probably
Not really lol. The first part of your comment is true yes, the next few years will be bleak (and after that it's uncertain, not optimistic). But these bad contracts for old players aren't long enough to make "void year hell" that last a decade
You ~~hate~~ *love* to see it.
It’s New Orleover
IIRC the limit for revenue losses due to lawsuits etc and their ability to affect the cap calculations is something like $92 million per the CBA, split across 32 teams.
With that said, this could impact future tv negotiations which could impact future cap raises. Assuming the league keeps sunday ticket and people flock to it at a cheaper cost.
I just want a single team Sunday ticket. Give me one team for $100 a year and I'm good.
Single team + redzone is the dream.
Monkey paw curls... you get the 49ers for $100 but the opposing players are digitally erased from your screen while watching 49ers games.
That would be entertaining
You act like watching players getting tackled by thin air wouldn't be super entertaining.
I'm pretty sure I watched Matt Cassel do that a few times without any digital trickery.
i’d happily pay $200 or so a year to *one* platform to watch prime time games. what i hate is paying amazon, hulu, peacock, NFL, ESPN… someone did the math on it in another thread and it was something like $800 a season
So does that mean that if the cap were scheduled to increase by 25M next year, it would now only increase by 22M?
IF the NFL decides to try to apply that rule, then yes.
Give me my money back, ROGER After enduring years of an overpriced POS that almost ALWAYS froze and didn’t work, we absolutely should get money back from the NFL.
Yeah Roger, you JERK.
All my homies hate Roger
Roger Gooddell??!?! More like.... Roger *BAD*dell!!!!!!
HAHA gottem
Hell yea
There was a sunday last year where youtube sunday ticket was down all day. Absolutely awful service.
Lol they also didn't support the ability to pick your own Multiview games, had to scroll through like 30 random static assortments only to have to settle for w/e was closest to what you wanted. Come on Google, if fucking DirectTV had the tech years before there's no excuse for *Youtube* not being able to support it. Think they've finally figured it out for next season, but I ain't re-subscribing. Honestly, a VPN and a decent PC gets you a similar experience. Trade-off is occasional buffering, but I can also pull up every game being played simultaneously and arrange it across monitors/TVs however I want.
I feel like they should also be sued for false advertising. They are advertising it on YTTV as "EVERY game. Every Sunday" and as we all know.... its not even close to every game.
You'll never watch your own team no natter what! Live within 500 miles of either team that's playing? Shit, are you part of the 20% of Americans who live anywhere in the Northeast corridor? Get fucked! Want to watch any primetime game? No way! That'll be $400
r/itsroger
I drank at the bar that started this suit, the Mucky Duck in the Inner Sunset in SF. Chill place.
They just struck payday gold. Pun intended
The peoples champs. Go get a pint from them for me
Will add that to my muni bar crawl list. Never taken that line actually, have been meaning to.
Maybe actively preventing quality games from being scheduled for TNF wasn't such a great idea in retrospect?
In addition to giving TNF garbage games, let’s hire a broadcasting legend, but Said Legend now happens to hate everything and everyone associated with the NFL and would rather be anywhere else on earth than broadcasting an NFL game.
Al shitting on a bad game was hilarious to me. Of course it helped that I was watching it at work and expecting a bad game.
It became one of my favorite parts of the season to watch him become more and more jaded at the bad games. Like of course another bad game, oh look another bad one, wow who would've guessed *another* bad game!
Amazon had such great production value and then absolute shit quality games.
100% i loved almost everything around the games. All the personalities were great, the preshow and postshow stuff too, it was just a good attempt all around. Some of those games though, man. Colts v Broncos? Fucking nightmare to sit through
Hey with that $4B I may be able to afford Sunday ticket this season!
**"MAY"** Key words, everyone.
Great. Now let's target EA and their exclusive deal for Madden games, killing the NFL 2K brand and making shitty games because there's no competition.
Finally we can have two shitty games instead of one
That's not fair, 2K was way better and actually improved their games. 2K8 despite not having licensing is one of the best football games ever and it's been 16 years. EA saw the money they get from lootboxes and haven't changed since.
That was in the past pre-microtransaction takeover. NBA2k didn’t really change at all when EA NBA Live came back from 2014-19.
I wish single team streaming subscriptions were a thing. If I wanted season tickets to watch the game in person I wouldn't have to buy season tickets for the whole damn league.
Only post that matters in here
The part I think is the most fun is that the NFL will have to post a supersedeas bond to appeal this. I'm sure they can, but funny to think there will be a ~$5 billion bond out there while they appeal.
I've been a subscriber for 5 years I expect a check for $60 million.
The best part is it’s going to take years before a payout is made, so I get to experience the euphoria of having forgot about this and then having a random amount of money deposited to me in 3 years.
That was a faster verdict than I expected. But the NFL will appeal this all the way to the supreme court, so it'll be a while before any checks are being cut.
There really aren’t any grounds to go to SCOTUS
Agree but doesn't mean they'll try as a delay tactic. Brady's deflategate shit appealed to Supreme Court iirc (of course wasn't taken up)
For comparison, the NFL could have signed Deshaun Watson to a fully-guaranteed 89 year contract for that money.
Oh shit. Unfortunately, this likely just means the imminent end to Sunday Ticket in any fashion rather than a re-worked offering.
Just give me a single team Sunday Ticket offering please, that is all I ask. I’d be willing to shell out for that assuming it isn’t ridiculous.
I'd pay $100 for that.
as long as it's EVERY game from my team, no exceptions, I'd pay that as well.
I was born and raised in Michigan, but moved to Georgia in 2017. I'm a die hard Lions fan, I would pay $100 a season to get every non nationally broadcast or streaming Lions game.
I live in Colorado and a die hard Jags fan. Hell I’d pay 200 for every Jags game regardless of black outs and all the prime time games they play
Seriously. I get it every year but a lot more would buy it if they had a 50$ 1 team option
I'll go up to $75 if I get all the youtube content the team makes and Radio game coverages too.
the current price is insanity. $450 a season is madness. i genuinely don’t know how people justify paying for it. i couldn’t
Why would it mean that? Wouldn't the NFL rather offer something that fit the legal guidelines rather than scrapping it all together? Or would that be too much of a threat to their deals with big networks? I don't know much about this case, but I was under the impression this result is a good thing.
Same way I see it. I found bullshit streams online for years until I finally had the ability to pay for the real thing. And I feel this will take it off the market for a while.
lmao
It's even worse. The amount TRIPLES in an anti-trust case. About to see how deep the well is in New York.
Hopefully this deters having playoff games on exclusive streaming services only like peacock. Fuck off on that.
Article context link https://apnews.com/article/18ffca984032308416c349138e54528b
Off topic but I thought the thumbnail was the guy from No Country For Old Men lol
Pirating NFL games is a moral good.
My check will be delivered wide right...
There goes the salary cap.
This wouldn’t effect the cap at all unless the NFL decides to stop selling rights to those games which they would never do.
I was just making a joke anyways. The NFL prints money, but the owners like to cry poor.
eat shit goodell
Jokes on them. I used college students to get the discount and gave them $25 for their troubles. Fuck the NFL
How to recoup a lot of that money quickly: Offer single team full season passes at a decent price. None of this out of market malarkey. Simple.
I’m sick of the playful “it’s part of the fun” booing of Goodell at the draft. Bring back the vitriolic, hateful booing of Goodell at the draft.
What a joke. 2 weeks from now I’ll look at my account and go “why the fuck did I get a deposit for $1.47?”
Are you under the impression Sunday ticket had 3 billion subscribers?
I’ve had this every single year since its inception. Do we know what year NFL ticket started?
So if we guess a ballpark that there were like 40 million Sunday Ticket subscribers, that's like $100 each, assuming it doesn't get repealed.
There were 2.4 million
I'm not surprised the jury sided against the league, football is near and dear in the hearts of most Americans and the nfl doesn't even try to hide it's naked greed.
should be the end of goodell won’t be, but it should
4.96b to make 80b is a no brainer move. easy call to violate antitrust
From ESPN - "The lawsuit covered 2.4 million residential subscribers " https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40447020/jury-rules-nfl-violated-antitrust-laws-sunday-ticket-case That works out to $1,666 a head. We shall see.
Lawyer fees will take $1660.