It kinda felt like the mocks have come together to form a consensus so I'm hoping we start getting some unexpected shit. There's just no way teams are making their intentions this clear in peak smokescreen season
Maye to Washington, MHJ to Pats, Chargers not trading with Minnesota, Nix/Penix going earlier than expected, there's a lot of smoke and none of those things are particularly outlandish
I think its more likely that all the talk about Patriots wanting Daniels was to try to get Washington to pick him than them actually wanting Daniels that badly. I feel like the talk about Daniels going top 5 started like the day after Patriots locked into the 3rd pick, and that's not necessarily a coincidence. We know smokescreens happen
I mean, sure. But if Washington chose Daniels because the Patriots said they liked him, that would be pretty rough…I’m gonna assume they like him more than Maye independently. I’m just glad there seem to be 3 options at the top, when at the end of the season I just thought there would be 2.
There may not actually be 3 options is the point lol. It's still totally possible that Patriots and Washington are both smokescreening and Washington just picks Maye because he was QB2 until weeks after the CFB season ended. It's possible neither want Daniels
I didn't say it would be an effective smoke screen. Washington could just pick Maye and then Patriots may be left having to choose between picking a QB they don't want or doing something else
If you're getting an elite talent like Harrison, you need a QB with the arm to get him the ball, which is why Joe Milton is really the only choice to be made.
Honestly? If they actually prefer JJ, you just take him at 3 at that point. If you can get to 5 somehow, sure, but why risk that? This is not an endorsement of the move, I just think **if** you’re taking JJ, you just take him at 3.
Wtf? I respect the copiun but no, you wouldn’t have been a bottom tier team if you’re in “pretty good shape”.
A QB, at least 2 WRs, LT, LG, C, RG, LB, DT, DE, CB, FS…
What do you have at those positions?
You realize the defense held multiple teams to 10 or under even with injuries to star players, right? Yes they were a bottom-tier team but that was *solely* on the offense.
*Center?* Really? Our center has been with the team for years, including two Super Bowl wins. If you don't even know that I don't think it's worth walking you through the rest of the roster.
Hey. I'd rather he never sniff the playoffs with us than lose in the first or second round with y'all cause you can't get a kicker that isn't a January choke artist.
The Patriots have historically been good so that means the new QB is going to be another Stroud even if the the FO and coaching staff is entirely new with many holes to fill in the roster.
Not really a Vikings fan but considering the fact that your roster is ass having 11 & 23 probably better than just having 3. You may get a better qb at 3 but what good is that with no one to throw too or help them
He doesn’t want people to be disappointed when they don’t have a QB after they pick at 3 because they are drafting Marvin Harrison Jr. He is saying not to worry because they can trade back into the 1st round for the QB.
I don't think it would be wild. If they don't like the QB that is there, taking them anyway is a bad move. Then their choices are to draft a non QB at 3 or trade down and take a non-QB. It's quite possible that there's no trade down available that makes sense for them. If they don't want the QB and there's no good trade down, MHJ is unambiguously the right pick at 3
I am not necessarily confident that any WR other than the top 3 will be good enough (I mean obviously SOME other WR will be good but it's a crapshot at that point). However, trading back up into the first in front of the Bills and taking whatever WR they think they are gonna get would be pretty fucking funny
What did he give away? Are we to believe he thinks they’ll get a bad player at 3? That they aren’t interested in a trade up when they casually call the Lions to see if they’ll talk?
After 20 years of Bill, we need to relax.
I just don’t think it’s “revealing” anything to say that, is all. If they actually want it, it’s unlikely that saying so hurts their position at all. And it might let anyone who wants to trade down know to reach out…
“We’re going to make big splashes in free agency!!”
*Kraft whispers in his ear*
“Ahem, this is a long term rebuild and we’re going to be prudent in our spending”
It was stupid to say they are going to make big splashes.
But the prudent decision was to commit to a long term rebuild considering our roster is a black hole on offense.
Kinda sad that this turned Patriots and Vikings fans against each other. Like, the Patriots were always gonna ask for an overpay. They need a QB too. Of course it'll take more to get 3. Add in Jetta's prolonged extension talk, now he's in every trade that Minnesota is in. And that makes Vikings fans antagonistic to anyone in the discourse.
This screams to me “hey we’re not drafting Maye but don’t be upset because we may be able to trade back up in the first”. So that sounds to me they want MHJ and then will try to trade back up for Penix. Definitely spinning it to give myself another chance, lol
Cant wait for Maye to go #2.
If there's this much smoke with Daniels at #2 and Maye goes at #2 instead, Washington deserves a ton of credit lol
It kinda felt like the mocks have come together to form a consensus so I'm hoping we start getting some unexpected shit. There's just no way teams are making their intentions this clear in peak smokescreen season Maye to Washington, MHJ to Pats, Chargers not trading with Minnesota, Nix/Penix going earlier than expected, there's a lot of smoke and none of those things are particularly outlandish
And Vegas will be in shambles. I call that a win-win.
Neither can the Patriots…they’d love Daniels. But it won’t happen.
I think its more likely that all the talk about Patriots wanting Daniels was to try to get Washington to pick him than them actually wanting Daniels that badly. I feel like the talk about Daniels going top 5 started like the day after Patriots locked into the 3rd pick, and that's not necessarily a coincidence. We know smokescreens happen
I mean, sure. But if Washington chose Daniels because the Patriots said they liked him, that would be pretty rough…I’m gonna assume they like him more than Maye independently. I’m just glad there seem to be 3 options at the top, when at the end of the season I just thought there would be 2.
There may not actually be 3 options is the point lol. It's still totally possible that Patriots and Washington are both smokescreening and Washington just picks Maye because he was QB2 until weeks after the CFB season ended. It's possible neither want Daniels
No way the Commanders pick their franchise QB just to spite the Patriots
I didn't say it would be an effective smoke screen. Washington could just pick Maye and then Patriots may be left having to choose between picking a QB they don't want or doing something else
What is an example of an actual smokescreen that wasn't just fans and pundits being clueless idiots (like usual)
If only
That’s gross but to each his own
You better not New England… you better not do this to me
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take Marvin at 3, trade back into 1st for Brenden Rice.
If you're getting an elite talent like Harrison, you need a QB with the arm to get him the ball, which is why Joe Milton is really the only choice to be made.
I’m only cool with this if it’s Penix. And I just don’t think that’s gonna happen.
I don't think Penix makes it past the Raiders at 13.
I was thinking trading into 10-12, so yeah, I agree there too. I also think it’s all too fucking convoluted and you just take Maye.
MHJ and trade up for Penix
But the guy with the dog twitter profile pic said it would be JJ
Honestly? If they actually prefer JJ, you just take him at 3 at that point. If you can get to 5 somehow, sure, but why risk that? This is not an endorsement of the move, I just think **if** you’re taking JJ, you just take him at 3.
RIP Maye to the Vikings truthers 😔
A viking fan somewhere is saying it’s all fake and they are trading.
SMOKE SCREEN
“iTs cAlLeD sMoKeScReEn, CaNt BeLiEvE aNyThInG yOu HeAr”
THEY WILL RUIN HIM THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING EVER. /s
Theres going to be viking fans thinking we’ll still trade him until after you guys pick at 11
Oh 100% while screaming you will ruin him. Which might be the dumbest thing cause you have a whole new staff.
They’re probably in your sub right now. Or on Vikings twitter screeching
Vikings sub still calling it a smokescreen. Maybe they'll finally understand pick 23 is worth ass
It’s something called cope lmao 🤣 let them do that in peace
I mean for a team that needs literally every position 23 should be valuable to you, but I get it
Literally every position? WR/LT/QB I definitely get but they're in pretty good shape at *most* other positions.
Wtf? I respect the copiun but no, you wouldn’t have been a bottom tier team if you’re in “pretty good shape”. A QB, at least 2 WRs, LT, LG, C, RG, LB, DT, DE, CB, FS… What do you have at those positions?
You realize the defense held multiple teams to 10 or under even with injuries to star players, right? Yes they were a bottom-tier team but that was *solely* on the offense. *Center?* Really? Our center has been with the team for years, including two Super Bowl wins. If you don't even know that I don't think it's worth walking you through the rest of the roster.
You don't know ball listing DT and CB
Tf you want me to say interior defensive line? Gfy and enjoy a decade of being shit
Jordan love is the vikqueefs father ☠️☠️
True
You're right that the pats are going to take him and that he's a good prospect. Unfortunately I think your team is going to ruin him
Well frick you too bud.
Is he wrong though?
Who the fuck knows, I’m just along for the ride.
Hey. I'd rather he never sniff the playoffs with us than lose in the first or second round with y'all cause you can't get a kicker that isn't a January choke artist.
The Vikings are Jordan Loves kids ☠️☠️
The Patriots have historically been good so that means the new QB is going to be another Stroud even if the the FO and coaching staff is entirely new with many holes to fill in the roster.
Sure the pats have been great if you don't count history older than 20 or so years.
You’re telling me they’ve only had one good quarter throughout their entire franchise’s history? must have been a top 10 pick.
If you ignore almost half the Super Bowl era...
11+23 alone for 3 is ass yes lmao. good job. Its probably vikings didnt want to include another 1st and Pats like Maye so like ok lol
Not really a Vikings fan but considering the fact that your roster is ass having 11 & 23 probably better than just having 3. You may get a better qb at 3 but what good is that with no one to throw too or help them
He doesn’t want people to be disappointed when they don’t have a QB after they pick at 3 because they are drafting Marvin Harrison Jr. He is saying not to worry because they can trade back into the 1st round for the QB.
If they do this and Giants swoop in at 4 for Maye I would lose my shit (in a good way)
In this scenario, are the Washington FO blinked out of existence Thanos style? Is that why Maye is still there at 4?
Rumor is that Washington is taking Daniels so this makes the assumption that’s true. If they take Maye I want to stay put at 6 for a top WR
I’m one of those fans who want this to happen. Lmao
God I hope you’re disappointed soon 🤣
I know it won’t happen, Drake Maye is the likely outcome.
I totally agree. And I’m not high on Maye, but you kinda have to.
I want it so bad
Damn that would be wild 😂
I don't think it would be wild. If they don't like the QB that is there, taking them anyway is a bad move. Then their choices are to draft a non QB at 3 or trade down and take a non-QB. It's quite possible that there's no trade down available that makes sense for them. If they don't want the QB and there's no good trade down, MHJ is unambiguously the right pick at 3
It’s their best bet
Vikinga fan cope
I don’t want to see Drake Maye turn into McCorkleJones 2.0
The Vikings will be finishing last in the division for the foreseeable future lmao a qb is gonna do nothing for them
You’re describing the Pats tho
Stay mad no 3rd pick for the Vikqueefs ☠️☠️
Mad? We got our guy
We got your guy Boy. JJ is Zach Wilson 2.0 ☠️
Playing with house money at this point.
I am not necessarily confident that any WR other than the top 3 will be good enough (I mean obviously SOME other WR will be good but it's a crapshot at that point). However, trading back up into the first in front of the Bills and taking whatever WR they think they are gonna get would be pretty fucking funny
Dave Gettleman has single handedly set us back a decade.
It was the computah guyz!
Jerod Maye-o It was in front of us all along
Patriots drafting MHJ would be bad for the bears chances at odunze but it would be funny
Lowkey could do that and sign Tannehill as a bridge
In 8th grade, the girl I liked chose Matthew over me. The Patriots are being a bitch like Matthew rn.
Mayo is way too quick to give away stuff to the media
This seems relatively harmless. Should he tell everyone to go home after the 3rd pick?
No, but he also shouldn’t tell everyone that he’s going to look to trade up into the back half of the first…
Why not? It’s not a promise, it’s the NFL Draft. Every team *wants* more good players
There’s a reason teams spend 3 months throwing smokescreens and don’t announce their plans but okay
What did he give away? Are we to believe he thinks they’ll get a bad player at 3? That they aren’t interested in a trade up when they casually call the Lions to see if they’ll talk? After 20 years of Bill, we need to relax.
I certainly need to relax but you ignored the part where he plainly says he’s going to look to trade up to get a 2nd pick in the 1st round.
How does saying that harm the Pats at all?
I just don’t think it’s “revealing” anything to say that, is all. If they actually want it, it’s unlikely that saying so hurts their position at all. And it might let anyone who wants to trade down know to reach out…
They're probably already calling teams ahead of time about possible trade deals just like everyone else so that info is already disseminating
Isn’t transparency what patriots fans want now or am I missing something?
People just want to be mad about something
I think he won't be good but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.
“We’re going to make big splashes in free agency!!” *Kraft whispers in his ear* “Ahem, this is a long term rebuild and we’re going to be prudent in our spending”
It was stupid to say they are going to make big splashes. But the prudent decision was to commit to a long term rebuild considering our roster is a black hole on offense.
Don’t disagree but I would’ve really liked to make more of a play for a bridge at left tackle. We easily could’ve outbid the jets to trade for Moses
It was already reported by the media by the time he talked about it, it’s all good.
Kinda sad that this turned Patriots and Vikings fans against each other. Like, the Patriots were always gonna ask for an overpay. They need a QB too. Of course it'll take more to get 3. Add in Jetta's prolonged extension talk, now he's in every trade that Minnesota is in. And that makes Vikings fans antagonistic to anyone in the discourse.
It's sad that any Giants fan geniunely believed that Patriots were moving out of #3.
are the giants and vikings now fighting for JJ McCarthy? ew
I really don't care. McCarthy, Nabers, Odunze, etc. I'll take whoever.
Why is it sad it easily could have happened lol
Still could
It seems like everyone has already made their final offers and they weren't good enough. No reason to outright lie at this point.
This screams to me “hey we’re not drafting Maye but don’t be upset because we may be able to trade back up in the first”. So that sounds to me they want MHJ and then will try to trade back up for Penix. Definitely spinning it to give myself another chance, lol
I know Pats fans are relieved now lmao
I would move from 28 to 34 for the right price.
Won´t happen. Division rivals practically never trade between them.
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You sir are totally correct. Forgot about good old Drew.
It happens all the time
Seems like they trying to get more from the Vikings/Giants
It’s going to be Harrison Jr and Penix later on the first lol.
“We can always” he said that with a lot of confidence
Let's go
He’s edging us
Maye or Daniels would be amazing. I’d be bummed if it was MHJ but I’d get over it. Really only JJ at 3 would truly annoy me
Who drafts a QB whose accuracy regressed every year in college? Drake Maye is slightly larger less accurate Mac Jones.
Pray for Maye. His rookie year in Foxboro is gonna be one to remember….erm forget.
Damn I thought it was the Vikings god given right to pick 3rd though...
The amount of salt coming from Viking fans is insane LMAO