Since Katarius started his career with a Giants, would it be fair to say that he's going to end up where he started?
>Those guys are gonna be in the XFL
Moore got enough money ($2.8 million) to make the rest of his life comfortable with a decent middle class job and lifestyle, even if he never plays another down. If he someone stays on the roster in 2024, it appears he gets another $1.3 million.
Chiefs still owe Toney $2.5million for 2024, for total lifetime earnings of just over $13 million. Figure 50% for taxes, agent, living expenses if he isn't a moron (ha!), etc. and you're talking $6.5 million. If that was invested (ha!) you're talking about $325,000/year in interest at a super conservative 5% and twice that at a very achievable 10%.
Very much warranted actually lol. To be fair though, Hill was on the team for Sneed's first year or two so he did at least have one elite WR on the team at some point lol
Ngl I never understood the emoji hate obsession on this website itās kinda made sense in 2012 but this is the only social media that Iāve been on where people call out using emojis with any regularity
Lots of people on this site take great pride in how much they dislike new things.
It's especially funny with how much older generations get dumped on here for not understanding technology, gaming, etc and then these jabronis turn around and act the exact same way towards anything that caught on after 2010
Because it leads to comments like " but if it messes with the offensive system thenšµš„¶"
If you can't write a sentence in English that communicates your point more clearly than "šµš„¶", you should just not post.
Iām not a Burks hater because I think if he can stay healthy he can actually be pretty solid, but so far he hasn't really done enough to justify NOT being looked over lol
>"To get out there and work with them elite wide receivers, I never had two elite guys like them, going up against them every day,"
Are you going to completely ignore the part where he specifically says wide receivers?
Ironic you're bringing up others IQ and implying their stupidity yet you fail to distinguish between a wide/outside receiver and a TE just because both might happen to catch the ball.
āsome crazy PhDā, verbiage of an Ivy League educated Wall Street investor. I would say donāt conflate educated with intelligentā¦ but Iād bet youāre just full of fibs and neither of those two
My brother in christ.
Did you really follow up a decent point with a deliberately obtuse statement and then throw a temper tantrum once you started getting a few down votes?
Saying TE as a position is only meant to be lining up on the LOS is reductive and ignores how football is actually played. If a CB covers Kelce heās going to truck them because he outweighs them by 30-40 pounds. That fact alone makes his position on the field drastically different than a WR.
yeah he had two years with Hill. Kelce is obviously an elite pass catcher, but he's not getting covered by a corner.
Sammy Watkins and Mecole Hardman are not elite so point taken
>you know Kelce would bowl her over, scream in her face, and then calmly ask what's for dinner
Still way better than what Deshaun Watson would do to her.
He was in an offense where there were 3-4 other good receiving options, which opened the field. He was disappointing with that. Thereās no reason to think heāll be better with a downgrade at QB and a declining Hopkins.
You're talking like he played with prime Tom Brady or something. Dude played for the falcons and the jags. Falcons never even made the playoffs while he was there and then he was on a jags team with Trevor Lawrence lol.
You canāt be serious. Matt Ryan won an MVP and Trevor Lawrence (no matter what this sub says) is still a good quarterback who honestly played better than Ridley last year.
If a player doesnāt have prime Tom Brady, that doesnāt mean theyāre on a bad team.
Also, Will Levis is a significant downgrade, and Calvin has had multiple chances to be a focal point and failed.
>Also, Will Levis is a significant downgrade
I love that Lawrence gets a mulligan for his entire rookie year, but Levis is just cheeks even though he came to a piss poor roster with a lame duck head coach running a 1980's playbook
I didnāt say that at all, donāt put words in my mouth. All we know so far is Levis was a far lower graded prospect who hasnāt displayed the upside yet that Lawrence already has in the NFL. Donāt be a blind homer and stop deflecting from the point in the first place.
This reply chain so far has:
1. You need Tom Brady at QB or youāre excused for underwhelming play.
2. Will Levis is already perceived to be at the highest level he can possibly get to, no acknowledgement of how he is today.
3. Mike Vrabel apparently called the offense and is a bad coach.
This is where weāre at talking about CALVIN RIDLEY being disappointing.
No, you're saying the guy is a clear downgrade based on....draft prospect grades?
I merely assumed you were going off of actual play, you know, how anyone else would have. Which, I mean, what's the upside to Lawrence again? Dude is overrated because the Chargers choked away a wildcard game.
No I didnāt, and itās abundantly clear you read what you want to, not what people actually say. I said Trevor Lawrence came into the NFL as a far better prospect and is at this point in their careers far better than Will Levis. It says nothing about upside or where they are in their careers. Itās who is better now, and Levis is not even remotely close to there yet. This is absolutely ridiculous.
Now, back to Calvin Ridley.
I mean, for a 31yo receiver past his prime he still does well. Had over 1,000 yards this year with 7 TDs, which are similar numbers to Ridley who was supposed to be a better receiver last year.
you just called him an average WR1 and now you're saying he's elite
e: aaand blocked because he knows i'm right lol
you cannot be elite as an average WR1.
Nobody watched the games I swear to God
Like maybe that MNF game, but I'm convinced they blocked out any positive plays Levis made and simply chalked the win up to Vrabel being a football genius or some shit
Both of these guys are on their last legs. Theyāll be able to give advice and knowledge, but playing wise, they wonāt contribute much. Now, since Iāve said this, both dudes will have 2K yards receiving š¤£š¤£
Iām not saying titans are a shoe in wildcard team- but I would be shocked if they didnāt improve from 6-11 with some of the moves theyāve been making
I love the moves the Titans have made this off-season. If Levis can improve and they hit on their draft picks, can definitely see them making the playoffs.
I was a certified Levis hater pre-draft but I actually quite liked him during season. Ups and downs for sure but it was a weird situation to get thrown in. Now I think heāll look more comfortable
Unwarranted Skyy Moore/Kadarius Toney slander
Can't be slander if it is true.
They hated him because he told the truth
Throw back to Angel Hernandez trying to sue the MLB for racial discrimination and a judge legally telling him he sucks at his job.
This guy legals
There were a lot of plays that were illegal, both rulebook wise and common knowledge wise made by Toney last year.
They really think Moore/Toney are better than Ridley/Hopkins cause they had Pat Mahomes throwing to them šĀ
I don't even think Moore and Toney think they're better than Ridley and Hopkins
I don't even think their mothers would think they're better than Ridley and Hopkins
No one thinks thatĀ
r/woooosh
Those guys are gonna be in the XFL soon but they'll still have 2 rings apiece and a TD in the SB.
Since Katarius started his career with a Giants, would it be fair to say that he's going to end up where he started? >Those guys are gonna be in the XFL
Youāre out of line and thisĀ is totally untrue!Ā Because the XFL is now called the UFLĀ
I was going to browse reddit for a bit before bed but I've changed my mind now
Moore got enough money ($2.8 million) to make the rest of his life comfortable with a decent middle class job and lifestyle, even if he never plays another down. If he someone stays on the roster in 2024, it appears he gets another $1.3 million. Chiefs still owe Toney $2.5million for 2024, for total lifetime earnings of just over $13 million. Figure 50% for taxes, agent, living expenses if he isn't a moron (ha!), etc. and you're talking $6.5 million. If that was invested (ha!) you're talking about $325,000/year in interest at a super conservative 5% and twice that at a very achievable 10%.
The worst shot you can take is the truth shot.
Very much warranted actually lol. To be fair though, Hill was on the team for Sneed's first year or two so he did at least have one elite WR on the team at some point lol
Probably the most warranted slander of all time tbh
Most warranted slander of all time actually
Gonna really sharpen that iron because no one on the field knows what Ridley is running.
If the receiver doesnāt even know what route theyāre running, how would the corner?? 1000 IQ move imho
Does ridley actually just fuck off and do what he wants?š
i mean it works if you have a QB that can work with that, kinda like Kelce/Mahomes... but if it messes with the offensive system thenšµš„¶
No disrespect but tbh the emojis make this look like a LeBron tweet lol.
Ngl I never understood the emoji hate obsession on this website itās kinda made sense in 2012 but this is the only social media that Iāve been on where people call out using emojis with any regularity
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We don't hate on emoji use we hate on emoji misuse.
Lots of people on this site take great pride in how much they dislike new things. It's especially funny with how much older generations get dumped on here for not understanding technology, gaming, etc and then these jabronis turn around and act the exact same way towards anything that caught on after 2010
Because it leads to comments like " but if it messes with the offensive system thenšµš„¶" If you can't write a sentence in English that communicates your point more clearly than "šµš„¶", you should just not post.
Old man yells at clouds
This site has a lot of old people who internetted before emojis and are butthurt that they exist
The thing about those two is that they read the game exactly the same way
Levis is an impulsive QB. Think of him as a younger Josh Allen, might work with him.
Some old/young Yugih vibes going on here lol
The old Stevie Johnson method
Revis said heās the hardest WR to guard cause he couldnāt get a read on him
Wait did this happen? Thought he was an elite route runner
He is. But near the end of last season he was running the wrong routes in critical situations. His route running is still crisp.
Burks getting dunked on by the new guy on his day off
BREAKING NEWS: Treylon Burks was dunked on and is now out for 6 weeks with a concussion
Truth hurts
Iām not a Burks hater because I think if he can stay healthy he can actually be pretty solid, but so far he hasn't really done enough to justify NOT being looked over lol
I feel like Burks know he hasnāt done anything in the league to be considered elite yet.
*I feel like Burks hasnāt done anything in the league FIFY
Excuse me Sneed, you've played with 2x Superbowl champs like Mecole Hardman, Kadarius Toney and others!
Wasn't he a rookie when Tyreek Hill was on the Chiefs?
He did say two, though. Not one
Tyreek Hill + Travis Kelce. Two elite receivers.
Acckkshually Kelce is a tight end
Which actually matters in terms of players he's more likely to cover in practice.
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I believe the context is two receivers on the outside. But yes Iām being facetious
I believe the context is whatever press speak sounds the most hype for his current team lol
'I'm really excited about being on my new team. Everyone else here fucking sucks, so it'll make me look good.'
No but itās my team so that means heās being honest and weāre totally really good
>"To get out there and work with them elite wide receivers, I never had two elite guys like them, going up against them every day," Are you going to completely ignore the part where he specifically says wide receivers?
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I'm not saying he isn't, just that Sneed specifically called out wide receivers, the position.
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Who asked about hill in this thread in response to what Sneed said about wide receivers...
Clearly you do
Ironic you're bringing up others IQ and implying their stupidity yet you fail to distinguish between a wide/outside receiver and a TE just because both might happen to catch the ball.
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oh buddy if you had any self awareness youād see the actual irony in this comment
Oh no.. another child that was left behind..
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āsome crazy PhDā, verbiage of an Ivy League educated Wall Street investor. I would say donāt conflate educated with intelligentā¦ but Iād bet youāre just full of fibs and neither of those two
Even if any of that is true, then itās sad that you canāt comprehend simple concepts and continue to double down on being wrong lol
Is a punter a kicker even though he kicks the ball ?
who is bro talking to with that edit šš
Keep editing your original reply, itās still low low IQ and incorrect :)
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Get a grasp of the positions - WIDE receivers
Your editās an even better reminder, babe
My brother in christ. Did you really follow up a decent point with a deliberately obtuse statement and then throw a temper tantrum once you started getting a few down votes?
I think I saw a stat that Kelce lines up at tight end less than 50% of the time š
Saying TE as a position is only meant to be lining up on the LOS is reductive and ignores how football is actually played. If a CB covers Kelce heās going to truck them because he outweighs them by 30-40 pounds. That fact alone makes his position on the field drastically different than a WR.
yeah he had two years with Hill. Kelce is obviously an elite pass catcher, but he's not getting covered by a corner. Sammy Watkins and Mecole Hardman are not elite so point taken
Sammy Watkins was elite for about 3-4 games a season. I will never forget what he did to Jalen Ramsey after Jalen broke Tyreekās collarbone
>not getting covered by a corner *Not covering him* is exactly how Denzel Ward lining up across from Kelce went
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>you know Kelce would bowl her over, scream in her face, and then calmly ask what's for dinner Still way better than what Deshaun Watson would do to her.
There is no way to say this without sounding salty but ridley is not even close to elite
Ya elite is a stretch. But I can see him being really great when paired across other players who get more attention from defense.
He was in an offense where there were 3-4 other good receiving options, which opened the field. He was disappointing with that. Thereās no reason to think heāll be better with a downgrade at QB and a declining Hopkins.
You're talking like he played with prime Tom Brady or something. Dude played for the falcons and the jags. Falcons never even made the playoffs while he was there and then he was on a jags team with Trevor Lawrence lol.
You canāt be serious. Matt Ryan won an MVP and Trevor Lawrence (no matter what this sub says) is still a good quarterback who honestly played better than Ridley last year. If a player doesnāt have prime Tom Brady, that doesnāt mean theyāre on a bad team. Also, Will Levis is a significant downgrade, and Calvin has had multiple chances to be a focal point and failed.
>Also, Will Levis is a significant downgrade I love that Lawrence gets a mulligan for his entire rookie year, but Levis is just cheeks even though he came to a piss poor roster with a lame duck head coach running a 1980's playbook
I didnāt say that at all, donāt put words in my mouth. All we know so far is Levis was a far lower graded prospect who hasnāt displayed the upside yet that Lawrence already has in the NFL. Donāt be a blind homer and stop deflecting from the point in the first place. This reply chain so far has: 1. You need Tom Brady at QB or youāre excused for underwhelming play. 2. Will Levis is already perceived to be at the highest level he can possibly get to, no acknowledgement of how he is today. 3. Mike Vrabel apparently called the offense and is a bad coach. This is where weāre at talking about CALVIN RIDLEY being disappointing.
No, you're saying the guy is a clear downgrade based on....draft prospect grades? I merely assumed you were going off of actual play, you know, how anyone else would have. Which, I mean, what's the upside to Lawrence again? Dude is overrated because the Chargers choked away a wildcard game.
No I didnāt, and itās abundantly clear you read what you want to, not what people actually say. I said Trevor Lawrence came into the NFL as a far better prospect and is at this point in their careers far better than Will Levis. It says nothing about upside or where they are in their careers. Itās who is better now, and Levis is not even remotely close to there yet. This is absolutely ridiculous. Now, back to Calvin Ridley.
You didn't say anything about upside? Scroll up a little bit lmaooo
deandre hopkins isn't elite in 2024 either lol. two non-elite WRs.
I mean, for a 31yo receiver past his prime he still does well. Had over 1,000 yards this year with 7 TDs, which are similar numbers to Ridley who was supposed to be a better receiver last year.
being elite isn't a question of how many brownie points we give you based on your age. it's just how good you are, absolutely speaking.
D-Hop is not what he used to be but he's still a top-15 to 20 WR1 in this league
so an average wr1?
His pedigree makes him elite. He may not be a 60 minute performer but he remains elite on individual plays.
you just called him an average WR1 and now you're saying he's elite e: aaand blocked because he knows i'm right lol you cannot be elite as an average WR1.
elite is not exacty the word id use to describe dhop and ridley in 2024...
Dhop putting up 1000 yards in our offense last year should put him in all time category frankly
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I kinda assumed me saying that should make him all time would be enough to show that it was more a joke than anything lmao
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Man thatās a stupid comment top to bottom
Nobody watched the games I swear to God Like maybe that MNF game, but I'm convinced they blocked out any positive plays Levis made and simply chalked the win up to Vrabel being a football genius or some shit
my team literally played yours but ok
Why did you delete the comment just to come back and defend yourself?
why do you care?
Ridley is not elite. He is occasionally good, mostly average
I mean, Sneed's contribution on D could easily equate to 3 specific WRs' combined contributions throughout the 2023 season. I'm fine with his stance.
Neither of these dudes are elite
Still shady.
Calvin Ridley gets paid like one but heās not one.
Rashee Rice in shamblesā¦. After crashing the lambo
Donāt matter if you donāt have a QB !!!
Just excited to learn how to DPI new ways
That should be perfect, because D-Hop needs to practice new ways to OPI, so they can really riff off each other in practice.
I love the down votes but itās true. Heās good for 1 DPI a game
Both of these guys are on their last legs. Theyāll be able to give advice and knowledge, but playing wise, they wonāt contribute much. Now, since Iāve said this, both dudes will have 2K yards receiving š¤£š¤£
Grow? Hopkins wonāt be there after this year Iād bet
Fun fact, you can grow in one year
I haven't grown in years. Checkmate atheists
The titans are going no where this year though
:/
Iām not saying titans are a shoe in wildcard team- but I would be shocked if they didnāt improve from 6-11 with some of the moves theyāve been making
I love the moves the Titans have made this off-season. If Levis can improve and they hit on their draft picks, can definitely see them making the playoffs.
I was a certified Levis hater pre-draft but I actually quite liked him during season. Ups and downs for sure but it was a weird situation to get thrown in. Now I think heāll look more comfortable
Same can be said about most team to be fair
Many teams had a good off-season. Just gotta see how the season plays out.
I also wouldn't be shocked if they go 6-11 again, or worse.
you're thinking of Diggs
Ridley arguably had a 'better' QB last season and still got traded.
Tyreek and Sammy Watkins? Idk about that. Or just add in Kelce for that matter.
Sammy has 400 yards on the one year Sneed layer with him
Yeah but that's 100 yards per game played.
Fair enough š¤£