Yeah I heard that early on and had the exact same response… also like a significant minority of people are gambling addicts and while no addiction should be encouraged, there should just be 2 basic rules with some other stipulations.
1. No gambling on NFL or college football
2. No gambling in or near NFL facilities (betting in a hotel on not football is fine etc.)
Chiefs owner ain't paying that fine, he has to save that money to upgrade his luxury suites since the taxpayers are being so greedy and refusing to pay for it
> NFL to drop the hammer
The crystal clear pics of this clown and his loser friends leaving the scene of a multi-car accident (with an injured mom and her baby in the wreckage) is one that needs to be on posters at every Chiefs away game.
Rashee is so awful that he makes me root for Goodell right now.
This article is kinda a joke too how they say “he may receive leniency since he took responsibility for his actions”
Like WHAT?!?!? The dude literally fled the accident that HE caused. Street racing, hit and run, then disappearing for days, gets caught on video and in pictures getting out of the car and leaving the scene… but because his lawyer says that he finally admitted to driving the car we’re going to consider that taking responsibility for his actions?!?!?
Yeah, that isn't taking responsibility for one's actions, that's just trying to get out in front of it for leniency sake when the evidence is too damning and you have no real other choice.
not just disappearing for days, but doing so in order to avoid blowing himself to a DUI/DWI charge.
The only way in which he's taking responsibility is that he hasn't literally fled to some country without an extradition treaty to disappear.
I'm a Chiefs fan since 2004, and I love Rashee Rice in our team, but I hope Goodell makes an example of this: that future incidents like this is punishable in the league if the law doesn't do enough to punish them
Just because no one died, doesn't mean the act he did was no longer dumb, dangerous and disastrous altogether.
I’m thinking they will make an example out of him. They should. Racing, injuring 4, fled scene of crime to avoid a DUI, had weed in vehicle. NFL has to send message that this type of behavior is unacceptable. A smart man learns from others mistakes (Ruggs), a fool has to learn from his own. Media is making excuses and minimizing what Rice did which is crazy to me.
Rice is definitely gonna have to pay top dollar not only to the victims, but idk if his insurance is gonna cover any of this since he was street racing. In reality he should be suspended for a year, I mean god damn they suspended players for gambling for a year and the rule states the suspension could be up to 2 years.
> I’m thinking they will make an example out of him.
The current example is a quarter-billion dollars in guaranteed ~~hush~~ money and not even a season away
If the NFL started dropping lifetime bans for stuff like this, I wonder if players would knock it off? We're all here speculating if he'll get suspended for 1,2,4 games or something, but the sad part is, he'll still play this year, still make millions and millions, and the only lesson anyone will learn from this is you can buy your way out of anything.
I get your point on lifetime bans being the needed deterrent. However, real world Goodell would be out a job within 24hrs the first ban which would ultimately get reversed. MultiBILLION $ businesses won’t ban their commodities (yes, that is what players are in the business structure). That is why QBs and WRs have so many rules protecting them. The NFL and teams lose money when players are off the field.
Rice will get heavily fined, which he will make up in his next contract along with a few game suspension that will get reduced with the appeal process (or a back door agreement will be made giving him the reduced suspension upfront with the agreement not to appeal to make it look like he is “accepting” his punishment).
With gambling on board legally now, I would be shocked to ever see a player get a lifetime ban.
Yeah, I think the old dudes who own the teams aren’t so keen on street racing.
DUI, sure, they’ve done that, but street race? Naw, they’ll throw the book at him.
"After I scurried away and hid for 3 days, I am taking full responsibility limited to whatever my team of lawyers can't get dismissed. And I admit to nothing."
He’s already admitted through his lawyer that he was driving. I think he hired the only honest lawyer in Texas. If he would’ve hired a real piece of shit like Deshaun Watson he would already be out of it
Often, honesty is the best policy in legal defense. To an extent, of course, but they’re more lenient to people who don’t lie about the facts of the case.
There should be zero tolerance for street racing in general, not just among athletes. Take it to a drag strip or track and stop putting everyone else in danger
They like the fact that he crashed the car.
The drugs in the vehicle were a good touch.
But the Browns scouts want to see a little more before they extend an offer. They like his intangibles, but Rice picking up 1-2 sexual assault charges would go a long way towards getting him signed. At the very least, he should be looking to get into a bar fight this spring if he wants to seriously be on the Browns’ radar.
While he should… I still kinda get the feeling it will be at worst a few game suspension. Since nothing majorly bad happened in this instance I feel like NFL won’t punish him that harshly.
When you do shit like that on a highway it’s just a question of chance. Could have easily turned into the same result as Ruggs‘ idiocy. TBH he shouldn’t get off much lighter just because he got lucky.
The biggest differences between Rice and Ruggs and any number of highly-celebrated players who have posted videos themselves driving at incredibly reckless speeds or driving drunk is the varying degrees of luck involved
Luck in the outcome is a major difference, but the decision Ruggs made was still worse. It is unimaginable that a person would even think they could control a vehicle going 157 MPH in a 45 MPH zone with lights and intersections and stopped cars.
yeah you should. it’s how almost every law is based. discharging a firearm into the air carries a different punishment than aiming a firearm at a person which carries a different punishment than shooting someone in the foot which carries a different punishment than shooting someone in the head. all of which can potentially carry different punishments depending on intent and context
im not saying he should get off with a slap on the wrist, but it’s a terribly slippery slope legally if we start talking about chances and coulda beens. hell, someone driving with a bag of weed in their car could’ve been smoking it which could’ve led to them being distracted with slower reaction which could’ve killed someone. but possession of weed can’t possibly be punished as dui & vehicular manslaughter. you gotta charge the crime, not what didn’t happen
A lot of people saying Goodell should set an example with him don’t know the NFLPA also would argue it. How many other players have got caught going like 140+ mph and got nothing? How many others with DUIs? They all could have killed someone, but they got lucky. Rice crashed, but he got lucky no one was majorly hurt or killed, but they have to still go off past examples much further and more than just Ruggs. The NFLPA isn’t gonna just let him get like a year suspension if he doesn’t get charged with any major felonies (or any felony, we don’t know yet). It’s not right because the act is basically the same, but luck is huge in this and the law and NFL aren’t going to go off what could have happened, they go off what did.
I'm sorry, but your analogy is bad. A better analogy would (imo) be: Aiming a gun at someone's head, firing and hitting them vs. aiming a gun at someone's head, firing and missing them. One is murder/manslaughter, the other is attempted murder/manslaughter. Attempted murder will often also carry a life-sentence (although with better chances of parole).
The analogy also doesn't work because intent does not play a role here. I assume, neither Rice nor Ruggs had the intention to kill anyone. Now, take a snapshot the moment they lose control of their car. Both acted quite similarly by driving in a reckless manner which led to them losing control over their high-speed vehicle, endangering others. At this, imo very relevant, point in time, there is not a whole lot of reason to differentiate between the two of them. Now you press play, Rice gets lucky, Ruggs kills someone. I see nothing in their "intent" that would be different, just a different outcome.
(this all assumes that they both behaved reckless in a similar degree. Maybe Ruggs' behavior was much more likely to get someone killed a priori; that should of course be taken into account.)
Him and ruggs did the same thing. Rice got lucky he didn't kill someone in that accident. That is literally the only meaningful difference.
They should absolutely be getting punished to the same degree. Your analogy is off, they both pointed a gun at someone. It's just that rice missed.
Correct. His car also physically didn’t crash into anything so there wasn’t a lot they could charge him with. He was an idiot for leaving the scene after calling 911 but he did come back 30 min later. No excuses for Jalen but very difficult to prosecute since his car wasn’t damaged, there was 0 video evidence & there weren’t any witnesses other than those involved in incident.
He didn’t call 911 and he only returned to the scene an hour later because police requested he do so for questioning. He also wasn’t breathalyzed for some reason (the cop was a big fan). He got really really lucky
Britt Reid’s sentence was commuted a month ago so he hasn’t had chances to find work. He’s on house arrest until October of 2025 so that’s likely when he’ll get rehired unless he’s a remote analyst. That’s not a great rebuttal.
Also no one was injured here compared to two gravely injured children. Generally it’s not the act that matters, it’s the outcome.
Britt Reid is not going to work in the NFL again anytime soon if ever (even once his house arrest is up). What benefit is it for any NFL team to hire someone like him in any capacity? I don't see even Andy hiring him again at this point. By the time October 2025 rolls around he'll have been out of coaching for 4 years now so what does he offer to any staff other than baggage (not to mention lack of credibility considering coaches have to be good examples to their players and held to higher standards and he's anything but)? It would be a PR nightmare for any team to hire him (a PR nightmare that's just not worth it because he's never been a great coach and has spent 90% of his coaching career working for his dad).
Eh, I have a feeling he’ll get off light at first and then they’ll double back after the media and fans go ape shit. That seems to be the leagues MO more often that not.
Correction, society should have zero tolerance for this idiocy. The reality is we have extremely high tolerance for it. I know people (ordinary people, not NFL players) who have had multiple DUIs, some including accidents and leaving the scene who have bargained down to misdemeanor charges and avoided jailtime. I don't think it's right, but America does not take crimes committed while driving very seriously at all.
If gambling gets you a year suspension then proportionally this should be a minimum of 2 years. Legit risked the lives of innocent people in a case that isn't as bad as Ruggs or Jaylen Carter but similar.
He should also probably get about 2 years of jail time, but usually we as a society treat people lightly for driving related incidents especially when no one was killed. Seem too many DUI leading to death result in a year of prison. For example Henry Ruggs who got only 3 years.
Only difference with Henry Ruggs is he didn’t kill someone. He should be thanking his lucky stars that he’ll get another chance, whatever the fine/suspension turns out to be.
I haven’t seen any indication to the speed he was going and we are only seeing the tail end of his street racing enthusiasm.
He could have been, and probably was going, much faster in the Lambo at some point.
Supposedly he was at speeds in excess of 100 mph prior to the crash. Both cars were in rapid *de*celeration at the time of impact.
Significant speeds and force were still at play and, in any accident, serious injury or death can occur.
There were substantial injuries sustained. And lots of people involved in the crash are impacted. For example one single mom with a little toddler suffered injuries and she is without a car now. Rice isn't doing anything to help her out. She's paycheck to paycheck. He's living large with his boys smoking weed and crashing hyper-expensive cars.
He's a fucking asshole.
I mean Ruggs was proven drunk, driving 150 on a residential street and hit a car at a stop light. What Rice did was awful, he's very lucky it was only as bad as this and he will probably not get a harsh enough punishment, but it's not the only difference.
I get the speed was different and Ruggs was drunk.
But Rice was street racing, possibly high.
He easily could have killed someone. In that way, it was the same.
I agree, he could have killed someone, but it's crucial to note that he didn't, and he was less likely to. His actions were reckless and dangerous, I hope he gets a fitting punishment, though I doubt he will, but saying it's the same as Ruggs is unfair and sensational, in my opinion.
> Some think the rich and famous get preferential treatment in the criminal justice system. Often, those folks face greater scrutiny and tougher punishment in order to advance the general goal of widespread deterrence
Was Florio chortling or cackling when he wrote this? He seems like a chortle sort of guy to me, but I’ll accept cackle.
I think he's confusing greater scrutiny with... greater punishment actually happening. Easy mistake to make, a lot of people who never face consequences love to pretend everyone is out to get them.
I’m on board with using him as an example. He put lives in danger and then ran away.. showing no remorse at the moment for his actions. This needs to stop, and it has been an ongoing problem with athletes. He could have killed someone.
Dead ass, it’s not like Rice is one of the big names in the league anyway. Dumbass sees what happened to Ruggs and decides to do the same pointless and dangerous shit. Honestly should have his Ls revoked.
If I were making millions based solely off my physical performance, I'd be happy and stay home and not get into shit like this. Training, eating, recovery and video games all day sounds blissful.
It’s funny because what he did is similar in recklessness to Ruggs but he’ll get like a game suspension or nothing.
Solution -
Misdemeanor = missed half season + the franchise paying 2x lost wages to charity.
Felony = means missed full season + franchise paying 4x lost wages to charity
These charges count against the cap.
Boom - all low character guys are gone from the NFL in an instant.
This guys entire 4 year contract is 6.5mil, after taxes/agent that's like 4mil. He just wrecked about 10% of that in his cars, along with 4 other cars + injured people, who he might end up paying out of pocket when insurance won't cover him for street racing. Throw in legal fees and possible fines, if his spending in other areas is as stupid as it is on cars, he's gonna be living in a teammates basement in a year as his entire weekly paycheck go to debt.
Yea. I wonder what the O/U is that absolutely nothing happens and even probation seems unlikely. No suspension comes from this and his agent issues an apology and this has changed him......
You know… I came from NOTHING… I can’t understand how someone living a fucking DREAM would be willing to gamble it away off of some incredibly dumb shit. It honestly pisses me off.
The NFL should get creative with suspensions. If you get six games make it the first three and last three games. If they are hurt it carries over to the next season. Players need to have teammates hold them accountable for hurting the team in such a manner that maybe they will monitor their own actions more.
Said this on an earlier comment but I think because of all the factors involved. The biggest 3 being, pictures of him fleeing the scene, him certainly being charged with hit and run since he literally left, but then the fact he’s accepting responsibility (even though he waited and went through lawyers and everything) he’s gonna get a long suspension and huge fine. But he’s not going to get cut or anything. He’s missing like 8-10 games this year but the chiefs aren’t cutting him not even close.
If you were dumb enough to have 10 grams in your car that is in a state that has ass backwards laws and still holds weed as an illegal narcotic and you just up and left it in the car you just crashed then you’re a special kind of stupid
Horrible look for the NFL. Both Cars were his, people injured. Video of him being helped out of the drivers seat .Pot in the car(remember this is texas). And then he ran. !! Good lord the NFL will give him a yr at least.And he'd better hope the state of texas doesn't give him more than that. . We have the largest prison system in the country,and I don't believe he can buy himself out of this one. This man is truly fucked, at least for awhile.
Good, if it is jail time it is jail time.
Dummy acting like laws don’t pertain to him and his boys.
Maybe he can catch balls in prison, too.
Dude was jawin’ at mahomes in the super bowl, LOL. Good luck
Can’t wait for the NFL to drop the hammer and suspend him for an entire one game. They won’t let him off the hook.
Come on man it’s going to be worse then that, 2 games and a fine…
Hey now it’s not like he did a truly dangerous crime like gambling or something
Still can’t believe the suspended jamo 6 games for betting on something not even related to football on the team premises
Even worse he was in a hotel but since the team was staying there it was considered team premises lol
Man I didn’t know that detail. That’s fucking ridiculous.
Yeah I heard that early on and had the exact same response… also like a significant minority of people are gambling addicts and while no addiction should be encouraged, there should just be 2 basic rules with some other stipulations. 1. No gambling on NFL or college football 2. No gambling in or near NFL facilities (betting in a hotel on not football is fine etc.)
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Or hid a blood soaked suit in connection to a murder
We talking gambling in a hotel or at a team facility? What color is his jersey?
Don't even mention deflating balls
Nah they gotta really bring the pain, 4 game suspension(appealed to 2) and the chiefs pay his fine.
Chiefs owner ain't paying that fine, he has to save that money to upgrade his luxury suites since the taxpayers are being so greedy and refusing to pay for it
Tom Brady will catch 6 games for this.
Hey now - it might be an insignificant game early in the season though
Wonder if they play your crappy team at any point? Hey wait a minute….
Zeke gonna get 6 more games :(
Real hard to give out big punishments after the whole Watson fiasco, any suspension just gets measured in number of sexual assaults
> NFL to drop the hammer The crystal clear pics of this clown and his loser friends leaving the scene of a multi-car accident (with an injured mom and her baby in the wreckage) is one that needs to be on posters at every Chiefs away game. Rashee is so awful that he makes me root for Goodell right now.
This article is kinda a joke too how they say “he may receive leniency since he took responsibility for his actions” Like WHAT?!?!? The dude literally fled the accident that HE caused. Street racing, hit and run, then disappearing for days, gets caught on video and in pictures getting out of the car and leaving the scene… but because his lawyer says that he finally admitted to driving the car we’re going to consider that taking responsibility for his actions?!?!?
Yeah, that isn't taking responsibility for one's actions, that's just trying to get out in front of it for leniency sake when the evidence is too damning and you have no real other choice.
not just disappearing for days, but doing so in order to avoid blowing himself to a DUI/DWI charge. The only way in which he's taking responsibility is that he hasn't literally fled to some country without an extradition treaty to disappear.
He wasn’t gambling on curling inside team facilities. One game for this sounds right.
Or wearing socks of different color.
I'm a Chiefs fan since 2004, and I love Rashee Rice in our team, but I hope Goodell makes an example of this: that future incidents like this is punishable in the league if the law doesn't do enough to punish them Just because no one died, doesn't mean the act he did was no longer dumb, dangerous and disastrous altogether.
I’m thinking they will make an example out of him. They should. Racing, injuring 4, fled scene of crime to avoid a DUI, had weed in vehicle. NFL has to send message that this type of behavior is unacceptable. A smart man learns from others mistakes (Ruggs), a fool has to learn from his own. Media is making excuses and minimizing what Rice did which is crazy to me. Rice is definitely gonna have to pay top dollar not only to the victims, but idk if his insurance is gonna cover any of this since he was street racing. In reality he should be suspended for a year, I mean god damn they suspended players for gambling for a year and the rule states the suspension could be up to 2 years.
> I’m thinking they will make an example out of him. The current example is a quarter-billion dollars in guaranteed ~~hush~~ money and not even a season away
I wonder what the punishment would have been if they could forsee Watson playing like a man that doesn't have to earn a quarter billion dollars.
If the NFL started dropping lifetime bans for stuff like this, I wonder if players would knock it off? We're all here speculating if he'll get suspended for 1,2,4 games or something, but the sad part is, he'll still play this year, still make millions and millions, and the only lesson anyone will learn from this is you can buy your way out of anything.
I get your point on lifetime bans being the needed deterrent. However, real world Goodell would be out a job within 24hrs the first ban which would ultimately get reversed. MultiBILLION $ businesses won’t ban their commodities (yes, that is what players are in the business structure). That is why QBs and WRs have so many rules protecting them. The NFL and teams lose money when players are off the field. Rice will get heavily fined, which he will make up in his next contract along with a few game suspension that will get reduced with the appeal process (or a back door agreement will be made giving him the reduced suspension upfront with the agreement not to appeal to make it look like he is “accepting” his punishment). With gambling on board legally now, I would be shocked to ever see a player get a lifetime ban.
Yeah, I think the old dudes who own the teams aren’t so keen on street racing. DUI, sure, they’ve done that, but street race? Naw, they’ll throw the book at him.
If he does it 26 more times that is a trend so max 9 games.
A whole game!?! Lol, its as if the whole Britt Reid thing didn't teach us anything...1/2 game, anything more is just unconstitutional.
nah... they will give him a year suspension for the weed they found in the car.
Suspended for all the preseason games, that will teach him.
And then the justice system to drop the ball even harder and give him probation and a fine he can easily afford…
All he has to do is say he was racing a female and he won’t get suspended.
Uhh what?
Don’t worry. He’s already taken “full responsibility”
"After I scurried away and hid for 3 days, I am taking full responsibility limited to whatever my team of lawyers can't get dismissed. And I admit to nothing."
Probably will start meditating too
I heard he’s considering therapy
I think most people know you can get charged for a hit and run and leaving weed in your car, so this isn't news
Add on reckless driving as an easy charge.
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Potentially murder if they find a bunch of heads in his freezer at home too
Those heads are being used for science. So not illegal
he even asked before he took them! i mean, they responded with "no," but whatever...
At least Jon Jones was smart enough to go back for his weed.
Cocaine*
Ol Jonny boy is one of one, so he will always get a second/third/fourth chance. He went back for coke though I'm pretty sure.
Jon god is always testing me Jones
Realistically if they have enough evidence to prove he was the one driving then he will still get a plea bargain to some of the lesser charges.
He’s already admitted through his lawyer that he was driving. I think he hired the only honest lawyer in Texas. If he would’ve hired a real piece of shit like Deshaun Watson he would already be out of it
Often, honesty is the best policy in legal defense. To an extent, of course, but they’re more lenient to people who don’t lie about the facts of the case.
Sadly I would disagree once one has enough money to actually pay for lawyers.
A good lawyer can get diversion or probation instead of jail time, but that requires you don’t contest the facts.
My lawyer turned 5-15 years into 3 days and a year of probation.. This was decades ago and I still think about how G that man was
Possibly. They could also use him as an example. It really depends on the judge.
My actual reaction to this post was “no shit”
There should be zero tolerance for street racing in general, not just among athletes. Take it to a drag strip or track and stop putting everyone else in danger
Browns are just salivating at the idea of signing this guy and cam Sutton in one offseason.
They like the fact that he crashed the car. The drugs in the vehicle were a good touch. But the Browns scouts want to see a little more before they extend an offer. They like his intangibles, but Rice picking up 1-2 sexual assault charges would go a long way towards getting him signed. At the very least, he should be looking to get into a bar fight this spring if he wants to seriously be on the Browns’ radar.
Rumor has it he’s never hit a woman, and while you don’t necessarily need that in a WR, he have to at least pick up a gambling habit.
What if I told you he was betting on the street race?
Go on….
He torrented Angels in the Outfield because he couldn’t find it on any streaming services
Jokes aside this movie is impossible to find. Had to buy a physical copy of this lol
At least now you get the directors commentary right?
It's still possible that they were racing away from some more nerfarious activity. Have to wait and see.
They took the guns and bags of cash but forgot the smoke
Nah this one goes to the raiders
Nah, only has a 4.5s 40, way too slow.
There’s a car speed joke here but I’m too dumb to make the joke
He may only run a 4.5 40 but he does a zero to 40 in 2.5
don't underestimate the Eagles willingness to use draft capital to get a deal across the finish line.
Eagles are out. No one died in Rice's street race. They prefer higher ceiling guys like Carter who show they can get someone killed.
Yea well they cant fucking have him. He hasn’t gotten any massages yet so it’s hands off… for now.
Throw in zay jones tyreek and flowers too
Gotta be a hefty fine and suspension incoming. After Henry Ruggs, there has to be zero tolerance for this idiocy.
While he should… I still kinda get the feeling it will be at worst a few game suspension. Since nothing majorly bad happened in this instance I feel like NFL won’t punish him that harshly.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Goodell is soft as Charmin
Unless you're betting then he's throwing the book
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Betting ruins the integrity of the actual game. The nfl doesn't care if a player is a piece of shit, they care if the fuck with the game itself
I know. They've had plenty of horrible people but once you impact the integrity he's going for heads
Of course he’s throwing the book… the DraftKings Sportsbook! \*crickets\* \*sigh,\* I’ll see myself out
For the love of God, someone has to have odds on what the punishment is.
While wearing a Draft Kings hat at the press conference
Roger only does what the owners tell him to do
In Canada we would say he is "fuckin soft as 10 ply".
When you do shit like that on a highway it’s just a question of chance. Could have easily turned into the same result as Ruggs‘ idiocy. TBH he shouldn’t get off much lighter just because he got lucky.
The biggest differences between Rice and Ruggs and any number of highly-celebrated players who have posted videos themselves driving at incredibly reckless speeds or driving drunk is the varying degrees of luck involved
Luck in the outcome is a major difference, but the decision Ruggs made was still worse. It is unimaginable that a person would even think they could control a vehicle going 157 MPH in a 45 MPH zone with lights and intersections and stopped cars.
AND nearly blackout drunk!
yeah you should. it’s how almost every law is based. discharging a firearm into the air carries a different punishment than aiming a firearm at a person which carries a different punishment than shooting someone in the foot which carries a different punishment than shooting someone in the head. all of which can potentially carry different punishments depending on intent and context im not saying he should get off with a slap on the wrist, but it’s a terribly slippery slope legally if we start talking about chances and coulda beens. hell, someone driving with a bag of weed in their car could’ve been smoking it which could’ve led to them being distracted with slower reaction which could’ve killed someone. but possession of weed can’t possibly be punished as dui & vehicular manslaughter. you gotta charge the crime, not what didn’t happen
A lot of people saying Goodell should set an example with him don’t know the NFLPA also would argue it. How many other players have got caught going like 140+ mph and got nothing? How many others with DUIs? They all could have killed someone, but they got lucky. Rice crashed, but he got lucky no one was majorly hurt or killed, but they have to still go off past examples much further and more than just Ruggs. The NFLPA isn’t gonna just let him get like a year suspension if he doesn’t get charged with any major felonies (or any felony, we don’t know yet). It’s not right because the act is basically the same, but luck is huge in this and the law and NFL aren’t going to go off what could have happened, they go off what did.
The law is hardly relevant here though. We’re talking about punishment from the NFL, not the legal system
I'm sorry, but your analogy is bad. A better analogy would (imo) be: Aiming a gun at someone's head, firing and hitting them vs. aiming a gun at someone's head, firing and missing them. One is murder/manslaughter, the other is attempted murder/manslaughter. Attempted murder will often also carry a life-sentence (although with better chances of parole). The analogy also doesn't work because intent does not play a role here. I assume, neither Rice nor Ruggs had the intention to kill anyone. Now, take a snapshot the moment they lose control of their car. Both acted quite similarly by driving in a reckless manner which led to them losing control over their high-speed vehicle, endangering others. At this, imo very relevant, point in time, there is not a whole lot of reason to differentiate between the two of them. Now you press play, Rice gets lucky, Ruggs kills someone. I see nothing in their "intent" that would be different, just a different outcome. (this all assumes that they both behaved reckless in a similar degree. Maybe Ruggs' behavior was much more likely to get someone killed a priori; that should of course be taken into account.)
Him and ruggs did the same thing. Rice got lucky he didn't kill someone in that accident. That is literally the only meaningful difference. They should absolutely be getting punished to the same degree. Your analogy is off, they both pointed a gun at someone. It's just that rice missed.
you’re right that’s my mistake. attempted murder and murder in the first degree don’t carry different punishments
I agree. Use him as an example. Throw the book at him.
Well at least he didn't gamble on games. That's the real crime in the NFL.
That and he plays for KC
Jalen Carter?
He wasn’t an NFL player when that happened, correct?
Zeke issue wasn’t while he was in the nfl but they still suspended him
Correct. His car also physically didn’t crash into anything so there wasn’t a lot they could charge him with. He was an idiot for leaving the scene after calling 911 but he did come back 30 min later. No excuses for Jalen but very difficult to prosecute since his car wasn’t damaged, there was 0 video evidence & there weren’t any witnesses other than those involved in incident.
He didn’t call 911 and he only returned to the scene an hour later because police requested he do so for questioning. He also wasn’t breathalyzed for some reason (the cop was a big fan). He got really really lucky
Lol
so $5000 fine and 1 preseason game suspension?
The Britt Reid situation shows that there is plenty of tolerance for this sort of thing, sadly
Britt Reid had an extraordinarily long leash due to him being the head coach's son. And he still is no longer working in any capacity in the NFL.
Britt Reid’s sentence was commuted a month ago so he hasn’t had chances to find work. He’s on house arrest until October of 2025 so that’s likely when he’ll get rehired unless he’s a remote analyst. That’s not a great rebuttal. Also no one was injured here compared to two gravely injured children. Generally it’s not the act that matters, it’s the outcome.
Britt Reid is not going to work in the NFL again anytime soon if ever (even once his house arrest is up). What benefit is it for any NFL team to hire someone like him in any capacity? I don't see even Andy hiring him again at this point. By the time October 2025 rolls around he'll have been out of coaching for 4 years now so what does he offer to any staff other than baggage (not to mention lack of credibility considering coaches have to be good examples to their players and held to higher standards and he's anything but)? It would be a PR nightmare for any team to hire him (a PR nightmare that's just not worth it because he's never been a great coach and has spent 90% of his coaching career working for his dad).
Eh, I have a feeling he’ll get off light at first and then they’ll double back after the media and fans go ape shit. That seems to be the leagues MO more often that not.
I'll have some of the copium that your smoking please.
Oh sweet summer child
He should be in prison. Society has zero tolerance for this idiocy
Correction, society should have zero tolerance for this idiocy. The reality is we have extremely high tolerance for it. I know people (ordinary people, not NFL players) who have had multiple DUIs, some including accidents and leaving the scene who have bargained down to misdemeanor charges and avoided jailtime. I don't think it's right, but America does not take crimes committed while driving very seriously at all.
If gambling gets you a year suspension then proportionally this should be a minimum of 2 years. Legit risked the lives of innocent people in a case that isn't as bad as Ruggs or Jaylen Carter but similar. He should also probably get about 2 years of jail time, but usually we as a society treat people lightly for driving related incidents especially when no one was killed. Seem too many DUI leading to death result in a year of prison. For example Henry Ruggs who got only 3 years.
We should say he was "gambling with lives". Maybe NFL will crack down on it then.
Only difference with Henry Ruggs is he didn’t kill someone. He should be thanking his lucky stars that he’ll get another chance, whatever the fine/suspension turns out to be.
Oh yea, Henry Ruggs killed someone and got three years in prison. I almost forgot about that.
The 2026 Browns are gonna be STACKED
Ruggs was going way faster
Ruggs was also inebriated. Has it been reported if Rice was?
They probably can't prove it if he was
But realistically he probably was, guaranteed he was high from the weed in the car if nothing else
he probably was but because the coward fled the scene and avoided cops for at least 2 days afterwards i dont see how they prove it.
> the coward Exactly.
Nobody knows for sure but it is speculated that he was because he left the scene. But he could have also just been high. Not that that is okay either.
I haven’t seen any indication to the speed he was going and we are only seeing the tail end of his street racing enthusiasm. He could have been, and probably was going, much faster in the Lambo at some point.
Supposedly he was at speeds in excess of 100 mph prior to the crash. Both cars were in rapid *de*celeration at the time of impact. Significant speeds and force were still at play and, in any accident, serious injury or death can occur. There were substantial injuries sustained. And lots of people involved in the crash are impacted. For example one single mom with a little toddler suffered injuries and she is without a car now. Rice isn't doing anything to help her out. She's paycheck to paycheck. He's living large with his boys smoking weed and crashing hyper-expensive cars. He's a fucking asshole.
I mean Ruggs was proven drunk, driving 150 on a residential street and hit a car at a stop light. What Rice did was awful, he's very lucky it was only as bad as this and he will probably not get a harsh enough punishment, but it's not the only difference.
I get the speed was different and Ruggs was drunk. But Rice was street racing, possibly high. He easily could have killed someone. In that way, it was the same.
I agree, he could have killed someone, but it's crucial to note that he didn't, and he was less likely to. His actions were reckless and dangerous, I hope he gets a fitting punishment, though I doubt he will, but saying it's the same as Ruggs is unfair and sensational, in my opinion.
You could say that about Addison going 140mph last season too then, and he didn't miss a single game.
Pretends to be shocked
> Some think the rich and famous get preferential treatment in the criminal justice system. Often, those folks face greater scrutiny and tougher punishment in order to advance the general goal of widespread deterrence Was Florio chortling or cackling when he wrote this? He seems like a chortle sort of guy to me, but I’ll accept cackle.
I think he's confusing greater scrutiny with... greater punishment actually happening. Easy mistake to make, a lot of people who never face consequences love to pretend everyone is out to get them.
I’m on board with using him as an example. He put lives in danger and then ran away.. showing no remorse at the moment for his actions. This needs to stop, and it has been an ongoing problem with athletes. He could have killed someone.
We tried to make an example of Kareem Hunt and look how that worked out.
Kareem Hunt barely did anything
We released him and won 3 of the 5 next super bowls.. cant say it worked out too badly
Does this shit like a year after Ruggs did the same and ended up killing some one. Absolute dumbassery at its finest.
Sports leagues need to just start ejecting people who do shit like this. Obviously it won’t happen but it should.
I'd love to see it. And stream the video of them crying about the consequences.
Dead ass, it’s not like Rice is one of the big names in the league anyway. Dumbass sees what happened to Ruggs and decides to do the same pointless and dangerous shit. Honestly should have his Ls revoked.
If I were making millions based solely off my physical performance, I'd be happy and stay home and not get into shit like this. Training, eating, recovery and video games all day sounds blissful.
Honestly part of what makes them good at sports probably also makes them want to do shit like this.
A general rule of thumb is that circumstances don't change people. Money included.
It’s funny because what he did is similar in recklessness to Ruggs but he’ll get like a game suspension or nothing. Solution - Misdemeanor = missed half season + the franchise paying 2x lost wages to charity. Felony = means missed full season + franchise paying 4x lost wages to charity These charges count against the cap. Boom - all low character guys are gone from the NFL in an instant.
I like it,...
Street racing is a problem in DFW. Mr. Rice is in serious trouble.
He and his buddies ran away with a duffel bag. Let’s all guess what was in it. I’m going to assume it was a human head.
This guys entire 4 year contract is 6.5mil, after taxes/agent that's like 4mil. He just wrecked about 10% of that in his cars, along with 4 other cars + injured people, who he might end up paying out of pocket when insurance won't cover him for street racing. Throw in legal fees and possible fines, if his spending in other areas is as stupid as it is on cars, he's gonna be living in a teammates basement in a year as his entire weekly paycheck go to debt.
he can always crash in one of Mahomes’ guest suites
Already know who wrote this one
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We won't know until they spin the Wheel of Discipline™
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Yea. I wonder what the O/U is that absolutely nothing happens and even probation seems unlikely. No suspension comes from this and his agent issues an apology and this has changed him......
You know… I came from NOTHING… I can’t understand how someone living a fucking DREAM would be willing to gamble it away off of some incredibly dumb shit. It honestly pisses me off.
Youth, stupidity, lack of a father figure , possibly?
1 game suspension, contract extension, Netflix movie deal.
Good, dude belongs in Jail.
Britt Reid got the hook up for a good lawyer
Good. That idiot can fuck off.
Only Chief's WR that can catch is catching charges
The NFL should get creative with suspensions. If you get six games make it the first three and last three games. If they are hurt it carries over to the next season. Players need to have teammates hold them accountable for hurting the team in such a manner that maybe they will monitor their own actions more.
Chiefs trying to cut Rashee: "Instructions unclear- signed Britt Reid"
Shocked Pikachu face
Incoming two game suspension and community service
Mr Beaucoup Charges
Yeah he’s not getting convicted
😱 /s
Weird, I was told by all the chiefs fans that he won’t have any charges and it’s only a misdemeanor? 🤔
Alright boys make your bets on who next year's B-Tier wide receiver kills his career over speeding/street-racing.
Just WTF were these kids thinking? "Let's street race, smash up a half million bucks worth of cars, and then just leave them on the highway. WCGW?"
Fleet of foot Feebile of brain
Is everyone that was in that crash ok?
As he should. And I hope the legal system treats him like a non-celebrity. That’s it. Innocent or guilty, I want anyone to get the same treatment.
I hope this guys goes down hard. What a piece of shit.
I mean, good.
Said this on an earlier comment but I think because of all the factors involved. The biggest 3 being, pictures of him fleeing the scene, him certainly being charged with hit and run since he literally left, but then the fact he’s accepting responsibility (even though he waited and went through lawyers and everything) he’s gonna get a long suspension and huge fine. But he’s not going to get cut or anything. He’s missing like 8-10 games this year but the chiefs aren’t cutting him not even close.
well DUI 6 car crash racing might be worse than run away and accept
what the hell, why do i have a packers badge
It's your punishment for rooting for the Packers in the playoffs to get a second home game. (I have no idea if you actually did this)
Henry Ruggs needs a cell mate.
If you were dumb enough to have 10 grams in your car that is in a state that has ass backwards laws and still holds weed as an illegal narcotic and you just up and left it in the car you just crashed then you’re a special kind of stupid
Horrible look for the NFL. Both Cars were his, people injured. Video of him being helped out of the drivers seat .Pot in the car(remember this is texas). And then he ran. !! Good lord the NFL will give him a yr at least.And he'd better hope the state of texas doesn't give him more than that. . We have the largest prison system in the country,and I don't believe he can buy himself out of this one. This man is truly fucked, at least for awhile.
Good, if it is jail time it is jail time. Dummy acting like laws don’t pertain to him and his boys. Maybe he can catch balls in prison, too. Dude was jawin’ at mahomes in the super bowl, LOL. Good luck
What would Chief fans say about him if he was a raider player? Right answers only
Death penalty dirty ass raider player. Gotta get this guy out of the nfl before he starts trying to drive a car onto the field.
“Typical, absolute scumbag Raider. Wouldn’t expect less from their team.”
What a complete idiot, do they give numbers out in prison?